Lemon n Lime - Gang pet of the century?

[Overweightank]

Can a mod/dev explain how the AA will work in terms of cooldown ?

(just for clarification) The AA says after 45 seconds, the target of the AA is immune to it. What if you were to die and respawn? will the immunity go away?

If not then I see a huge gang coming for pvp... I assure this might be the end if there's no after respawn immunity.
All it takes is a gang with Lemon and lime; and you're probs gonna die within about 1-2 seconds when being ganged. Then you respawn, they come to your room, gang you again in 1-2 seconds, then it's just as bad as SNS. SnS has tricks to it so you find it as a somewhat easy opponent. But lemon and lime might be stronger than SNS. Don't nerf, its good as it is.

Just make sure you add the immunity to still be on after respawning, because it WILL be abused...

[xnorwayx]

agree with that

[Ravager]

The pet looks weak in my opinion. You get ganged vs 5 deary people you might lose too. 5v1.

The aa only hits one. Armor reduction isnt that great as its already equivalent to aim shot and worse than axe throw, blinky, grimm, singe, nekro.

The only thing that can really save this pet is if the hp/mp regen are as huge as sns healing.

[Kyle Holmes]

Where are you finding out these informations about new pets haha I'm a nab

sent from fritters beak

[Jazzi]

You can keep this effect active for the entire time if a 2nd user activates their AA during the ping countdown. If not activated in time, then the AA will be on cool down for 20 seconds.

This pet is not better than SNS because it doesn't stack. SNS stacks for some mysterious reason that his yet to be fixed.

All in all, this pet is not that great imo because there's a million other occurrences that will cause you to have armor reduction already.

^^ this. The happiness bonus is also surprisingly unimpressive for a mythic pet, which had been long awaited.

[Ravager]

Where are you finding out these informations about new pets haha I'm a nab

sent from fritters beak

Spacetime insiders forums section

[Haligali]

The aa is a pool or what?

[Overweightank]

You can keep this effect active for the entire time if a 2nd user activates their AA during the ping countdown. If not activated in time, then the AA will be on cool down for 20 seconds.

This pet is not better than SNS because it doesn't stack. SNS stacks for some mysterious reason that his yet to be fixed.

All in all, this pet is not that great imo because there's a million other occurrences that will cause you to have armor reduction already.

it doesn't stack? ohh kk. problem solved :3

[the cute angel]

Can a mod/dev explain how the AA will work in terms of cooldown ?

(just for clarification) The AA says after 45 seconds, the target of the AA is immune to it. What if you were to die and respawn? will the immunity go away?

If not then I see a huge gang coming for pvp... I assure this might be the end if there's no after respawn immunity.
All it takes is a gang with Lemon and lime; and you're probs gonna die within about 1-2 seconds when being ganged. Then you respawn, they come to your room, gang you again in 1-2 seconds, then it's just as bad as SNS. SnS has tricks to it so you find it as a somewhat easy opponent. But lemon and lime might be stronger than SNS. Don't nerf, its good as it is.

Just make sure you add the immunity to still be on after respawning, because it WILL be abused...
This is a big problem if this will happen in pvp.i agree with this quote.

[Dragoonclaws]

I am lost... Lemon and Lime is bros whim????

[Overweightank]

I am lost... Lemon and Lime is bros whim????

New mythic version of them yes.. i see a lemon and a lime. From adventure Time...

[Dragoonclaws]

nvm I found

[.no]

Honestly, this preview is a let down. Was hoping for some sort of counter freeze/stun/panic pet that was easier achieved than nekro, and better than misty. Lemon and lime sounds about as useful as scorch.

Does Sts actually play this game? They have an idea, throw it at us, and then buff/nerf/buff/modify.

If they actually played, they would see what players want. The only pet ability anyone discuses in game, is some sort of panic/stun/freeze/terrify. I have yet to hear anyone, pve or pvp, say " I would love a pet with ability to reduce armor and hit slightly that will cost me 250 plat"

Sts, if you want us to spend real cash on a pet, make it worth it. You already got us once on scorch, don't do it again.

[Arvaen]

Can a mod/dev explain how the AA will work in terms of cooldown ?

(just for clarification) The AA says after 45 seconds, the target of the AA is immune to it. What if you were to die and respawn? will the immunity go away?

If not then I see a huge gang coming for pvp... I assure this might be the end if there's no after respawn immunity.
All it takes is a gang with Lemon and lime; and you're probs gonna die within about 1-2 seconds when being ganged. Then you respawn, they come to your room, gang you again in 1-2 seconds, then it's just as bad as SNS. SnS has tricks to it so you find it as a somewhat easy opponent. But lemon and lime might be stronger than SNS. Don't nerf, its good as it is.

Just make sure you add the immunity to still be on after respawning, because it WILL be abused...





Notes:
- Immunity does not reset if you wipe on a boss or group of enemies. It remains for the remainder of its time



Already mentioned.

[HotttSauce]

Honestly, this preview is a let down. Was hoping for some sort of counter freeze/stun/panic pet that was easier achieved than nekro, and better than misty. Lemon and lime sounds about as useful as scorch.

Does Sts actually play this game? They have an idea, throw it at us, and then buff/nerf/buff/modify.

If they actually played, they would see what players want. The only pet ability anyone discuses in game, is some sort of panic/stun/freeze/terrify. I have yet to hear anyone, pve or pvp, say " I would love a pet with ability to reduce armor and hit slightly that will cost me 250 plat"

Sts, if you want us to spend real cash on a pet, make it worth it. You already got us once on scorch, don't do it again.

Well Said, Well Said

[Overweightank]

Already mentioned.

Thank You :)

[Kingofninjas]

Honestly, this preview is a let down. Was hoping for some sort of counter freeze/stun/panic pet that was easier achieved than nekro, and better than misty. Lemon and lime sounds about as useful as scorch.

Does Sts actually play this game? They have an idea, throw it at us, and then buff/nerf/buff/modify.

If they actually played, they would see what players want. The only pet ability anyone discuses in game, is some sort of panic/stun/freeze/terrify. I have yet to hear anyone, pve or pvp, say " I would love a pet with ability to reduce armor and hit slightly that will cost me 250 plat"

Sts, if you want us to spend real cash on a pet, make it worth it. You already got us once on scorch, don't do it again.

Well said. STS are obviously the most ignorant when it comes to playing their own game. This is apparent from the way the mods play in their videos of testing new material. We needed an effective nekro counter and they give us something that pretty much every other does does, either with its pa or aa. I'll reserve judgment till I see its heal in actions, but as it is with most of STSs updates, I will not hope for anything useful.

[Jazzi]

I have to add too, that the happiness bonus of the pet is worse than that of the gold tier pets of the last 3 events. I was surprised to see that there are people who are happy with it.

The passive attack is ok, but it just does what many other pets do.

The aa, as it seems to be single target and has 45 seconds cool down is useful only during the boss fight. Unfortunately even here there are plenty of other pets, which especially if stacked (this is a requirement for the new pet due to immunity) will do the same, or a better job at the boss. And I am not even talking about arcane pets.

[Haligali]

Do not bury the pet too early, it may have some hidden op thing, like breeze freeze working in pvp and on bosses, or like shade aa debuffs armor for 45 sec long, remember these pets have weak happyness bonus too.

Ill wait until someone write a review or until ppl start complaining about it how op/useless is.

[Jazzi]

Do not bury the pet too early, it may have some hidden op thing, like breeze freeze working in pvp and on bosses, or like shade aa debuffs armor for 45 sec long, remember these pets have weak happyness bonus too.

Ill wait until someone write a review or until ppl start complaining about it how op/useless is.

You are very right about shade and breeze. And I use them over others with better happiness bonus all the time. Those are both legendary pets however. This one is a mythic one,which people have been waiting for a long long time and imho it should be reasonably better than breeze, shade or any other legendary pet. As it stands now it most definitely is not :-)

[.no]

Do not bury the pet too early, it may have some hidden op thing, like breeze freeze working in pvp and on bosses, or like shade aa debuffs armor for 45 sec long, remember these pets have weak happyness bonus too.

Ill wait until someone write a review or until ppl start complaining about it how op/useless is.

Except this one costs 250 plat. Oh, and it's mythic. It should have stronger base stats than legendary pets.

[Haligali]

Except this one costs 250 plat. Oh, and it's mythic. It should have stronger base stats than legendary pets.

Mythic means you can buy it for plat, nothing more. (well, maybe later for event tokens, or later can buy and sell egg from vendor)
Archon rings>lvl41 mythic ring, some legendary pets>mythic pets, im happy that this pet 'seems' (except some hidden op thing happens) not a must have, saves me some plat.
If you dont like it, dont buy it.

[.no]

Mythic means you can buy it for plat, nothing more. (well, maybe later for event tokens, or later can buy and sell egg from vendor)
Archon rings>lvl41 mythic ring, some legendary pets>mythic pets, im happy that this pet 'seems' (except some hidden op thing happens) not a must have, saves me some plat.
If you dont like it, dont buy it.

Not following your logic. So you think legendary should be better than mythic?


As far as your last comment, "if you don't like it, don't buy it" --LOL........Obviously........it's not even released yet........Sometimes, what sounds cool to write, actually is a very stupid, useless comment.

[Wazakesy]

Not following your logic. So you think legendary should be better than mythic?


As far as your last comment, "if you don't like it, don't buy it" --LOL........Obviously........it's not even released yet........Sometimes, what sounds cool to write, actually is a very stupid, useless comment.

Hali obviously didnt mean that.

The archons are better than lv41 myth rings. The lv41 ring was only called "mythic" due to its "luck proc + exp bonus of 20%". They didnt boost the stats cuz it was available via plat purchases =/

He meant that even though stats bonuses are good from legendaries like dova, blinky. Mythic pets have something "special" - obviously scorch is known for his "damage absorption". Slag does have some OK stats, but his AA is good, and legendary pets like shade, and some others have their special passive abilities like the debuff pools, or DoT effects like heavy bleeding or something like that.

Slag is almost at its peak of outdatedness too.


It's true its not released yet, but who knows, 99.99% of the time a change takes place, can't say if this pet will be another waste of plat....

[Haligali]

Not following your logic. So you think legendary should be better than mythic?


As far as your last comment, "if you don't like it, don't buy it" --LOL........Obviously........it's not even released yet........Sometimes, what sounds cool to write, actually is a very stupid, useless comment.

130495

It seems you are very active in crying for buff/nerf threads, but perhaps you missed this comment:


To the bigger point of making stats larger and larger, we have to be very careful how we do that. We're already talking about most high end pets adding 35-50 stat points to a single stat, so if we increased that to 55, 60, 70, 100, it starts to spiral out of control very quickly. Sometimes the obvious approach can have very serious effects in the long run when we have to yet again one up a previously amazing set of stats. Our approach now is more on a lateral movement scale, shifting around the stats we have without making them too over loaded.

AA is a good place to make more appropriate game play interesting and strategy based choices which we feel is good for the game.

[Appeltjes]

Meh this pet will dissapoint just like scorch, probably heals like 10 hp during the aa

[Tatman]

My only hope is that this pet will be properly tested before release so that we don't see the same buff/nerf cycle again.

Two additional things.

1. The armor reduction has to be massive in order for people to use this pet over easily obtainable, tried and tested pets like Grimm or Blinky.
2. The hp/mana return on hit has to go through some really extensive testing. It will probably be useless in pve anyway, but you have to find the right balance for pvp. You can't have it heal 10 hp (useless), but you also can't have it heal 1000 hp (op). So, you go to pvp, play a ton of vs/clashes and after that present us with the numbers. Not the other way around.

[.no]

130495

It seems you are very active in crying for buff/nerf threads, but perhaps you missed this comment:


I simply posted how I felt about this pet, and this makes me very active in crying buff/nerf? lol. Again, more stupid comments from you.

[ameer pham]

This new pet sounds good for me.. I really wished to hv 1

[Haligali]

I simply posted how I felt about this pet, and this makes me very active in crying buff/nerf? lol. Again, more stupid comments from you.

Stupid comment? I quoted the lastest developer statement about pet happyness bonuses, not my problem that you can not understand.
When the first mythic pet ripmaw was released, it was intended to purchaseable only with plat, not intended to better than legendary pets. This policy was changed when grim became tradeable and a year later affordable via event tokens, so you could get it for free. In my previous comments i tried to convice you that dont get fooled by colours, just because its mythic dont expect huge stats or op abilities like nekro (lol!) there many pet already which removes freeze/stun like ironbite or silver.
Crying for buff before we see how his ability works exactly or crying for buff happyness bonus, when it was clearly stated that they dont want too over loaded pets is simply stupid.
So your comments are more useless.

[Acthefool]

there is nothing i can say bout this....just....twink mage shud get this :D....hewhewhewhew

[.no]

Stupid comment? I quoted the lastest developer statement about pet happyness bonuses, not my problem that you can not understand.
When the first mythic pet ripmaw was released, it was intended to purchaseable only with plat, not intended to better than legendary pets. This policy was changed when grim became tradeable and a year later affordable via event tokens, so you could get it for free. In my previous comments i tried to convice you that dont get fooled by colours, just because its mythic dont expect huge stats or op abilities like nekro (lol!) there many pet already which removes freeze/stun like ironbite or silver.
Crying for buff before we see how his ability works exactly or crying for buff happyness bonus, when it was clearly stated that they dont want too over loaded pets is simply stupid.
So your comments are more useless.

lol goosfraaaabaaaa

[acewasabi]

it will be sucks if only can get from locked crates. i would rather pay 250 plat then 100000 plat on chance of getting (i think this is the point)

[Madxnoob]

This pet is not better than SNS because it doesn't stack. SNS stacks for some mysterious reason that his yet to be fixed.

SnS work's as intended, stacking pools is all my weak pet has.

[kevy]

LnL pet the worse pet on 250 plat like scorch.as I can see there is only single target..pls fixed it.thnx:confusion:

[Overweightank]

LnL pet the worse pet on 250 plat like scorch.as I can see there is only single target..pls fixed it.thnx:confusion:

It's supposed to be like that, and Atm it's one of the best pets out

[Darkoptiic]

STS doesn't care at all if the pet is good or not, they just care about the money (to fuel call of champions) that's why they're releasing all those pets and pet crates.

[Wazakesy]

STS doesn't care at all if the pet is good or not, they just care about the money (to fuel call of champions) that's why they're releasing all those pets and pet crates.

most of us already know that.

[CheifR]

Can a mod/dev explain how the AA will work in terms of cooldown ?

(just for clarification) The AA says after 45 seconds, the target of the AA is immune to it. What if you were to die and respawn? will the immunity go away?

If not then I see a huge gang coming for pvp... I assure this might be the end if there's no after respawn immunity.
All it takes is a gang with Lemon and lime; and you're probs gonna die within about 1-2 seconds when being ganged. Then you respawn, they come to your room, gang you again in 1-2 seconds, then it's just as bad as SNS. SnS has tricks to it so you find it as a somewhat easy opponent. But lemon and lime might be stronger than SNS. Don't nerf, its good as it is.

Just make sure you add the immunity to still be on after respawning, because it WILL be abused...
What pet buff/debuff has ever remained active upon respawning in the history of al ever -.-

Also keep in mind the extremely long cooldown and what does mana a hp regen upon dmg change weather they feel like ganging or not ????

[Wazakesy]

What pet buff/debuff has ever remained active upon respawning in the history of al ever -.-

Also keep in mind the extremely long cooldown and what does mana a hp regen upon dmg change weather they feel like ganging or not ????

SnS's does :/

[CheifR]

SnS's does :/
That's only if you were to walk back onto the pulls. It's not, already on you