Tradeable

[CouchPass]

I think that the fact that you can buy almost everything is ruining the experience of the game. There is nothing to earn anymore. Heck! More people buy plat then farm for their gold. I hope StS takes the right step forward to make these orcslaying and glinstone armor untradeable. We should work for it, not be able to buy it.

Of course I understand that some people will always want to be able to buy everything because they are too lazy but think about it. What is the purpose of AL? If you go all the way back to when you were a noob, then remember how much fun you had farming, making friends? For most people, that is gone now. I want you to answer this question honestly: What do you do when you decide you want to buy something? The answer for most people is....... Auction. The idea of farming and working hard for something has completely left our mind.

StS should try to make more and more things untradeable. We should work to make our armors and weapons better. If StS has trouble orienting this into the game, I would suggest making this game have a bit more crafting involved, using the useless essences and whatnot. Of course, some things have to stay tradeable like exclusive eggs and stuff but other things like exclusive legendary gear, or mythic armor should be more craft-oriented. We should also have more of a storyline to tie this together. The long and pleasing storylines ended with Bael.(lol good memories). Then it restarted with Rutger but then and after, there were less and less trailers.

Feel free to share your ideas and comments. I would love to hear them. :)



Edited..

To address some concerns about making gold and whatnot, step back and think about it for a minute. If everyone NEEDS to farm for their gear, pets, or other stuff, why would we need gold? The only reason AL had gold is so people have some currency to buy things if they are too lazy. Most buyers are people who are below endgame level, so they have no choice but to buy it.

That brings me to my next step, breaking the barriers that are in-game. Elite levels are only restricted to the end-game players. Why is that? We all know that Elite is supposed to be much more vigorous than normal maps, but what does this have to do with levels? StS can just adjust the hardness to every level, so everyone has an "elite" map. Then, everyone can farm everything... reducing the need for large amounts of gold.

Then, when the economy is stabilizing with very small amounts of items in auction, StS should bring the new things into game. The prices would stabilize, and it would be cheap too! Many people would be able to buy it and you have the option to farm for it. The things that are tradeable will decrease in value, therefore eliminating the reason to buy it.

Hope this clarifies.

P.S.- to also add, StS cannot bring this change to the game suddenly as that would mean redesigning the whole game platform. I suggest they slowly start involving these into the game.

[azagreoralu]

I think having to work hard for you're gear is exactly what we need. As for plat we can buy items to make it easier or ankhs to help us with getting the new gear

[Iinorex]

armours should be tradeable

[jn2002dk]

As a new player i can tell you that i'm very far from being able to buy anything decent and making gold isn't easy right now either, with crates going for 2800

Gear that can be traded actually gives me a shot at catching up, otherwise i'd hit a wall

[CouchPass]

As a new player i can tell you that i'm very far from being able to buy anything decent and making gold isn't easy right now either, with crates going for 2800

Gear that can be traded actually gives me a shot at catching up, otherwise i'd hit a wall

Thats the thing, tell me what your idea of decent gear is. If your truly a "new" player, you have no shot at catching up and getting enough gold to buy arcane and mythic. Locks are a joke at the moment. Almost all my friends who tried investing in them are losing millions. Lock prices will keep falling before they become common. On the other hand if you farm hard, and get gold in the process, you have become more experienced and wealthy. There is no risk in farming, its a steady income source for most endgame farmers. If you just get gold and buy stuff in auction, you are gaining no experience whatsoever. You can only imagine what its like to farm. Go get out there and start and you will realize what I'm talking about.

P.S.- I clarified to show you more clearly what Im talking about.

[CouchPass]

armours should be tradeable


Yes I totally agree, if you look at my edited post, I stated more clearly that some some armor should be tradeable. If all armor would be traceable, well that kind of defies the point of this thread. ;)

[jn2002dk]

Thats the thing, tell me what your idea of decent gear is. If your truly a "new" player, you have no shot at catching up and getting enough gold to buy arcane and mythic. Locks are a joke at the moment. Almost all my friends who tried investing in them are losing millions. Lock prices will keep falling before they become common. On the other hand if you farm hard, and get gold in the process, you have become more experienced and wealthy. There is no risk in farming, its a steady income source for most endgame farmers. If you just get gold and buy stuff in auction, you are gaining no experience whatsoever. You can only imagine what its like to farm. Go get out there and start and you will realize what I'm talking about.

P.S.- I clarified to show you more clearly what Im talking about.

But if i had to farm endlessly for said gear to drop what chances would i have then?

No one runs older content and no one wants an under geared player on their farming runs so then i'd be truly stuck

At least now i can buy some plat, convert it to gold and get some gear

[Trojan2100]

Thats the thing, tell me what your idea of decent gear is. If your truly a "new" player, you have no shot at catching up and getting enough gold to buy arcane and mythic. Locks are a joke at the moment. Almost all my friends who tried investing in them are losing millions. Lock prices will keep falling before they become common. On the other hand if you farm hard, and get gold in the process, you have become more experienced and wealthy. There is no risk in farming, its a steady income source for most endgame farmers. If you just get gold and buy stuff in auction, you are gaining no experience whatsoever. You can only imagine what its like to farm. Go get out there and start and you will realize what I'm talking about.

P.S.- I clarified to show you more clearly what Im talking about.

Clearly he has no clue how hard it is to earn gold these days,Specially for new players. In some part I agree some gears should be worked for but I also understand not everyone has that kind of time. Al players are declining each day cause it's almost impossible to earn gold without platnium. Farming endless hours and still not enough gold earned to put a smile on your face when you logg off. These are the issues we should be asking sts to fix . My question is to you is who cares how other ppl get there gears. I don't do you? If they are willing to spend money good for them , doesn't bother me at all why should you? We have far more important issues to solve besides how ppl spend there money. I know few ppl spend money every month and you know what most of them are decent willing to help less fortunate. Ppl like complain about how others should earn there gears. Who cares what others have just be happy what you have.


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[Trojan2100]

But if i had to farm endlessly for said gear to drop what chances would i have then?

No one runs older content and no one wants an under geared player on their farming runs so then i'd be truly stuck

At least now i can buy some plat, convert it to gold and get some gear

Totally agree with you . Lets hope expansion brings some excitement to all of us poor and the rich. most of still running around with 41 cheap legendary for months and his worried about issues nobody cares about. Some ppl can't be happy without seeing others fail.


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[raxaxic]

Hard work is good for players that dont have platinum but for others that can afford platinum that is what keeps this game going.

[Twinisland]

People plan on farming to sell these to the lazy rich ones for slot of gold that's how the system works they did this when magma was the best. Let the hard workers earn there gold the economy sucks anyways this would make it worst.

[CouchPass]

Listen guys, Im not saying that everything should be untradeable, just saying that some special ones shouldn't be tradeable, and everyone should be able to farm for those.

[Anabrad]

Im a new player and totally caught up have full mythic gear except wepond.

[CouchPass]

Im a new player and totally caught up have full mythic gear except wepond.

How did you catch up? Farming? Marching? Buying plat?
How long did it take you to catch up?
Do you truly feel experienced enough to have that type of gear?

[Deathdor]

In some part I agree some gears should be worked for but I also understand not everyone has that kind of time. Al players are declining each day cause it's almost impossible to earn gold without platnium. Farming endless hours and still not enough gold earned to put a smile on your face when you logg off. These are the issues we should be asking sts to fix .


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I agree.
What options do new players have to earn gold these days?
Not easy for newbies.
When I started, gems and Locked crates were a reliable source.

Some items have lost value, few maintain their value, others have a fixed platinum price or are luck-based.
Yep, some gear should be worked for, as long as it's worth the time and effort.
I don't think i'd like to see content that required blood but something enjoyable & achievable.

One could farm for hours to no avail or open locked crates until their platinum runs dry.
it's a gamble most of the time but unfortunately, that's how it is at the moment until a short event pops up.
As thing are, I prefer to wait for temporary events: Goblin Invasion, Ursoths Assault. etc
That's when I see a slight revival in both the community & economy.

New Long Term Content:
Some content and their rewards are outdated, I think - such as Daily Bards quests & Hauntlet.
The tokens are steep in comparison to the auction prices for some pets.
An update on those "mini-games" might help to keep the game refreshed.

Bring in something permanent for everyone
;)

[Edward Coug]

Thats the thing, tell me what your idea of decent gear is. If your truly a "new" player, you have no shot at catching up and getting enough gold to buy arcane and mythic. Locks are a joke at the moment. Almost all my friends who tried investing in them are losing millions. Lock prices will keep falling before they become common. On the other hand if you farm hard, and get gold in the process, you have become more experienced and wealthy. There is no risk in farming, its a steady income source for most endgame farmers. If you just get gold and buy stuff in auction, you are gaining no experience whatsoever. You can only imagine what its like to farm. Go get out there and start and you will realize what I'm talking about.

P.S.- I clarified to show you more clearly what Im talking about.

I started playing in February. I nearly have enough for fully decked out frost bow. The only thing I bought with real money was the Courage experience pack. It's still possible to get rich if you are willing to farm planar, merch, and go crazy during the events (that's where you can make the big bucks).

[Edward Coug]

I started playing in February. I nearly have enough for fully decked out frost bow. The only thing I bought with real money was the Courage experience pack. It's still possible to get rich if you are willing to farm planar, merch, and go crazy during the events (that's where you can make the big bucks).

I take back what I said. It is harder to farm than even when I started. Locks were selling for 5k, and dragonite bars would fetch you 2 to 3m (selling a drag bar allowed me to get good enough equipment to farm planar). The falling prices of locks and the addition of pet crates have made it really difficult for new players.

If you're new, events are your best and really only bet. Use them to make enough gold to buy decent equipment, and then farm planar.

[Kingofninjas]

If the mythic armors are untradable, people will simply buy the components and craft the armor themselves. If the components are untradable and the armor is, people will just buy the armor. Either way, many people are going to buy their way to the armor.

[Anabrad]

Cought up merching would. Took me around 4-8 months and I do feel experience ive been around a old veteran of al back in my days the max lvl was 16 and prices were decent not 1m for a gem we had no gems. It was all about skill and gear. And the community was very helpful not like now where everyone is selfish ive left the game and tryed to log back in but my fb wasn't working quit for a year and decided to play again started playing again

[Bellaelda]

I think they should be tradable...

I think keeping them tradable will allow more of us to to earn some much needed income in the game... Dunno about u but I love farming stuff and selling to those lazy people who prefer to just buy stuff.

The only point I can see in them not being tradable would be to force people to farm... Which I don't really see a point in... It doesn't bother me if they don't want to farm!... That just means more money for me to make farming :-)

[illidan]

I think that the fact that you can buy almost everything is ruining the experience of the game. There is nothing to earn anymore. Heck! More people buy plat then farm for their gold. I hope StS takes the right step forward to make these orcslaying and glinstone armor untradeable. We should work for it, not be able to buy it.

Of course I understand that some people will always want to be able to buy everything because they are too lazy but think about it. What is the purpose of AL? If you go all the way back to when you were a noob, then remember how much fun you had farming, making friends? For most people, that is gone now. I want you to answer this question honestly: What do you do when you decide you want to buy something? The answer for most people is....... Auction. The idea of farming and working hard for something has completely left our mind.

StS should try to make more and more things untradeable. We should work to make our armors and weapons better. If StS has trouble orienting this into the game, I would suggest making this game have a bit more crafting involved, using the useless essences and whatnot. Of course, some things have to stay tradeable like exclusive eggs and stuff but other things like exclusive legendary gear, or mythic armor should be more craft-oriented. We should also have more of a storyline to tie this together. The long and pleasing storylines ended with Bael.(lol good memories). Then it restarted with Rutger but then and after, there were less and less trailers.

Feel free to share your ideas and comments. I would love to hear them. :)



I totaly agree bro,every time STS adds something new,75% players will buy it ,20% wont get it in whole game and maybe 5% players will loot it....

It would be more fun to work together with friends and guild to farm some items....for example,do u remember easter event? im sure u do :) hmm,what about golden eggs? they were droping myth ring,but I think it was mistake to make them tradeble,ya ofc ,I earned more then 1,5m from selling eggs,but it would be better to run with friends and farm these eggs,then open it and try ro loot the ring...I would have 1,5m less,yep.thats right...but it would be rly fun to farm eggs and open them...I wouldnt repent my 1,5m


well,I totaly agree with ur idea , I hope developers will agree with u too

[CouchPass]

I totaly agree bro,every time STS adds something new,75% players will buy it ,20% wont get it in whole game and maybe 5% players will loot it....

It would be more fun to work together with friends and guild to farm some items....for example,do u remember easter event? im sure u do :) hmm,what about golden eggs? they were droping myth ring,but I think it was mistake to make them tradeble,ya ofc ,I earned more then 1,5m from selling eggs,but it would be better to run with friends and farm these eggs,then open it and try ro loot the ring...I would have 1,5m less,yep.thats right...but it would be rly fun to farm eggs and open them...I wouldnt repent my 1,5m


well,I totaly agree with ur idea , I hope developers will agree with u too

Yea, thats what I am talking about :)

[Kriticality]

Farmers need buyers to make gold. Maybe it's lazy or maybe it's bad luck. There also must be luck or the most geared players will have everything first. Yes farmers would have a chance at equal gear but no chance at closing the gold gap.

[Bellaelda]

Farmers need buyers to make gold. Maybe it's lazy or maybe it's bad luck. There also must be luck or the most geared players will have everything first. Yes farmers would have a chance at equal gear but no chance at closing the gold gap.

Yup...^ This ... Many of us need to be able to sell stuff to make money!

As far as luck I think there should be something in place along the lines of... after a ridiculous amount of runs... If you haven't looted then u can earn... Just so that people know their hard work isn't strictly luck based

[Abersit]

Yes agreed , make the crafting component tradeable but , crafted gear untradeable.

[Abersit]

I think they should be tradable...

I think keeping them tradable will allow more of us to to earn some much needed income in the game... Dunno about u but I love farming stuff and selling to those lazy people who prefer to just buy stuff.

The only point I can see in them not being tradable would be to force people to farm... Which I don't really see a point in... It doesn't bother me if they don't want to farm!... That just means more money for me to make farming :-)

Making the crafting component farmable and tradeable and crafted set untreadable , would be better i guess

[Jcmedina]

Stop crying u noob an go buy some platinum lol

[CouchPass]

Stop crying u noob an go buy some platinum lol

Lmao, "noob"? I guess you don't appreciate people who share their ideas... You're the only one who visited my thread and insulted me. Please go trash talk in another thread :). This is meant to be a constructive one where people put their ideas together. Have a nice day


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