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HeyitsTubs
06-09-2015, 04:20 PM
Title says it all.


right now i have 6 rage 6 hs 6 cb 6 stomp 1 sms 1 vs 4 beck 1 ib.



sometimes its reallly effective and sometimes its a piece of *************.


Please help!

HeyitsTubs
06-09-2015, 06:06 PM
Plz helpp!!!!!!

Jyuu1205
06-09-2015, 10:02 PM
6 Rage 6 HS 6 cb 6 beck 3 stomp 1 cs 3 sms, I think this would work.

humiiii
06-10-2015, 04:11 AM
6 Rage 6 HS 6 cb 6 beck 3 stomp 1 cs 3 sms, I think this would work.

I think Ib is required tho...

HeyitsTubs
06-10-2015, 07:14 AM
6 Rage 6 HS 6 cb 6 beck 3 stomp 1 cs 3 sms, I think this would work.



even though without ib it seems quite "high risk high reward" ~ depending on hit/miss/dodge of hs and cb.


Nevertheless, Ill give it a go! Thank you!


(Feel free to post any additional builds down!

Jyuu1205
06-10-2015, 09:24 AM
IB seems to be useless at this level because even if the armor is high, mages will kite, and there will be no use. Using points on evade or taunt would be better, if you were to invest on ib. Try humii's suggestion, since he is one of the top players at this range. I miss all of you :)

HeyitsTubs
06-10-2015, 10:44 AM
so is humiii's suggestion good?

Groaning
06-10-2015, 11:07 AM
Try out both and see which one you like better

humiiii
06-10-2015, 11:37 AM
I've always used ib on 30 bears

HeyitsTubs
06-10-2015, 02:32 PM
6 Rage 6 HS 6 cb 6 beck 3 stomp 1 cs 3 sms, I think this would work.

this one hasnt worked out for me very well. Even though it has great nuking capabilities i am very vulernable... 41 armour.


what would you suggest humiii?

Budapest
06-10-2015, 02:40 PM
IB seems to be useless at this level because even if the armor is high, mages will kite, and there will be no use. Using points on evade or taunt would be better, if you were to invest on ib. Try humii's suggestion, since he is one of the top players at this range. I miss all of you :)

Humi isn't good at Bear. I wouldn't find his Bear advice as adequate as I would his Mage's, and even then, his Mage isn't that impressive to me. Honestly wouldn't consider him a "Higher Up".

6 rage 6 hs 6 cb 6 stomp 1 sms 1 vs 4 beck 1 ib.

As for the Build, IB isn't necessary at all. If you have 1-2 points of IB @ the Lv.30+ Range, there's honestly no point in getting it. Invest the point into 5 Beckon, which in my opinion is the best level which you can have Beckon on. 6 Stomp is also not a very good idea, get 5/4, as it still de-ices effectively, and put the extra point into getting another slash for maximum damage output in the 3-4m range. With all of this said, your build should look something like this:

6 Rage
6 Hellscream
6 Crushing Blow
5 Stomp
5 Beckon
1 Super Mega Slash
1 Crippling Slash
1 Vengeful Slash

And if you don't like this one, you can always try:

6 Rage
6 Hellscream
6 Crushing Blow
4-6 Iron Blood
4-6 Beckon
1 Stomp
1 Vengeful Slash
1 Super Mega Slash
0-1 Crippling Slash
[Apply the points accordingly]

And if you don't like that one, you can try this:

6 Rage
6 Hellscream
6 Crushing Blow
4-6 Beckon
4-6 Super Mega Slash
1 Stomp
1 Crippling Slash
1 Vengeful Slash
[Apply the points accordingly]



Hope I helped! :loyal:

HeyitsTubs
06-10-2015, 03:30 PM
guess what... you really helped!


Thanks for taking time to do this!

add raketheleaves! maybe i could get some private lessons :D

Budapest
06-10-2015, 04:03 PM
guess what... you really helped!


Thanks for taking time to do this!

add raketheleaves! maybe i could get some private lessons :D

Knew I would, I use to be considered the best at that level, but that was a while ago. I'd give you lessons but my old 30 is now 61, sorry. :(

HeyitsTubs
06-10-2015, 05:25 PM
aww :P



I tried it out and i went around 11-1 vs 30-31 mages

and around 7-5 vs 35 mages!


However it does seem to do worse vs bears.

Im not sure why though lol.


Am i doing something wrong?

What combo would u use?


I use rage obviously, then beck, hs, cb, cs, vs, stomp, sms, (or sms stomp)

does that sound right?

correct me if im wrong

Budapest
06-10-2015, 05:52 PM
aww :P



I tried it out and i went around 11-1 vs 30-31 mages

and around 7-5 vs 35 mages!


However it does seem to do worse vs bears.

Im not sure why though lol.


Am i doing something wrong?

What combo would u use?


I use rage obviously, then beck, hs, cb, cs, vs, stomp, sms, (or sms stomp)

does that sound right?

correct me if im wrong

Switch VS with SMS, and you'll be fine. Another tip is to continuously use HS after a Mage's heal, and to hold off stomp until you're sure you'll kill them, or if you have them in a corner to where they cannot be knocked back out of range. I beat everything at that level especially Bears so I learned how to adapt/work with it. Practice makes perfect, after all, it's a build made to beat Mages, like Jun. :)

Groaning
06-10-2015, 06:10 PM
Your pretty gud, but one cannot use beck stomp and hope to kill

HeyitsTubs
06-11-2015, 07:15 AM
Switch VS with SMS, and you'll be fine. Another tip is to continuously use HS after a Mage's heal, and to hold off stomp until you're sure you'll kill them, or if you have them in a corner to where they cannot be knocked back out of range. I beat everything at that level especially Bears so I learned how to adapt/work with it. Practice makes perfect, after all, it's a build made to beat Mages, like Jun. :)

so you mean beck, hs, cb, cs, sms, stomp, vs?

humiiii
06-11-2015, 08:45 AM
Humi isn't good at Bear. I wouldn't find his Bear advice as adequate as I would his Mage's, and even then, his Mage isn't that impressive to me. Honestly wouldn't consider him a "Higher Up".

6 rage 6 hs 6 cb 6 stomp 1 sms 1 vs 4 beck 1 ib.

As for the Build, IB isn't necessary at all. If you have 1-2 points of IB @ the Lv.30+ Range, there's honestly no point in getting it. Invest the point into 5 Beckon, which in my opinion is the best level which you can have Beckon on. 6 Stomp is also not a very good idea, get 5/4, as it still de-ices effectively, and put the extra point into getting another slash for maximum damage output in the 3-4m range. With all of this said, your build should look something like this:

6 Rage
6 Hellscream
6 Crushing Blow
5 Stomp
5 Beckon
1 Super Mega Slash
1 Crippling Slash
1 Vengeful Slash

And if you don't like this one, you can always try:

6 Rage
6 Hellscream
6 Crushing Blow
4-6 Iron Blood
4-6 Beckon
1 Stomp
1 Vengeful Slash
1 Super Mega Slash
0-1 Crippling Slash
[Apply the points accordingly]

And if you don't like that one, you can try this:

6 Rage
6 Hellscream
6 Crushing Blow
4-6 Beckon
4-6 Super Mega Slash
1 Stomp
1 Crippling Slash
1 Vengeful Slash
[Apply the points accordingly]



Hope I helped! :loyal:

Ok Mr. Iknoweverything, i just made a suggestion about using ib and you say im not good at bear and mage? Well boy, i wonder who is your 35, it will be a pleasure to 1v1 you, meet me in game ^^

Budapest
06-11-2015, 02:14 PM
Your pretty gud, but one cannot use beck stomp and hope to kill

I don't see how that's relevant to me, but one can use beck stomp and hope to kill, that's the whole purpose why it's such a hated combo. It's especially deadly at lower levels.


so you mean beck, hs, cb, cs, sms, stomp, vs?

Yes.


Ok Mr. Iknoweverything, i just made a suggestion about using ib and you say im not good at bear and mage? Well boy, i wonder who is your 35, it will be a pleasure to 1v1 you, meet me in game ^^

I've farmed all of your characters from the level range of 35-45, & 75-77. You leave whenever it's me and you alone in a PvP game, please don't kid yourself by challenging me. :encouragement:

Seoratrek
06-12-2015, 04:34 PM
Please remember to keep your posts friendly and civil when debating. Thanks! :)

Befs
06-21-2015, 01:15 PM
How to beat bears.

Hellscream first.

Gf.

Groaning
06-21-2015, 06:45 PM
Or they dodge, you miss, don't know rage, or some nub tries to rush you <--- true story