1.7.1 Content Update (57237)

[pwnpear]

DEVS! I bought all of the maps except Fathom Crypt, and now youre saying not only do i not get the shield, but i also dont get a refund for any of it?? you should let the players like me at least buy the last campagn! I spent lots of money on those campaigns and now youre giving it away for free! i dont feel any gratitude right now...GIMME SOMETHING AT LEAST

[Genes]

2 thumbs down for exlixirs with plats ONLY. Sorry devs, Big boo for this.

Players will get bored with their mains and move on to their alternate an want to level up with the least fuss possible. This move will probably deter people from playing their alternates which should have been another source of your platinums income (inventory slots, face change, auction slots, emotes etc). This game is becoming expensive to be enjoyable.

[xantor]

Yes i know they give a shield as a thx...a crappy thx...i know they didn't promise a bonus shield for buying them but they also didn't promise to give levels away for free either so now i'm left with a crappy back handed thank u and new players get to keep or not even need plat...yea thx again for the 45 plat shield sps u can shove it!!!!!!

[Genes]

Omg, I can't run CTK with my friends on my lv30-40ish bear now? Even if they invited me? Wow, sorry devs, you've got a double BOO from me. Please make this do-able regardless of lv and restrict it to invites only through friends. If anyone thinks the low level players are a pest in your runs, the lv cap check box is sufficient to remove them from your games.

My lady and I have went through without power leveling on our main to 56, now we can't complement each other anymore... Sad day for me and wifey... Guess the plats that We were preparing to buy for new inventory slots and emotes will be put on reserves. As working adults, we just do not have time to slowly go through the levels again on our alternates.

I hope you can find a compromise to kids who have all the time in the world to play PL as well as working professionals that needs to work for bread and butter. Angry birds would be a good case study.

[choco]

this update wasn't such a good idea guys. despite all the childish rants that have preceded this post, i understand all the animosity. within the last few weeks, u have completely revamped the gameplay as well as turn over ur profit model.....much to the chagrin of ur players.

if i find an app i like, i donate to the devs so they continue making it better....which normally occurs after updates. if at any point in time i do not like the direction the app has moved, i stop donating and move on to another. sorry to say that this just put a big halt on my next plat purchase. being that it is now only useful for vanity items and elixirs (which are not required), i see no reason to purchase plat anymore.

u need to find the happy medium between managing ur veteran players and pleasing the new players. wholesale changes to the pricing structure at this point are a bit misguided....

[Raazesk]

Xantor: Wow, calm done, man. I can understand your sorrows, but try to be mature about it. No need to be nasty.

Pocket Legends: Happy birthday! Great update, although I am a bit upset that all of the campaigns are free now. But that doesn't matter because I'm just happy to have helped a good cause! Keep up the good work STS!

[giayuan]

Everything is awesome! Though for elixirs.. please PLEASE make them gold again.. T__T horrible... :(

[Vallist]

what's with the weird post format?

[kiitz]

I'll mention a little bit of what I said in chat,

There are people out there who will be willing to spend plat on elixirs, but it will solely depend on how it is packaged.

As an example, imagine running SC with a group that all has a persistant dumpster elixir that lasts for one or two hours.

This, except BS maps instead of SC maps, so the drops actually matter and chain clearing them for an extended period of time will result in better results.

This would actually make STS a fair amount of money from the hardcore players I think. I don't know about you, but I assume most of you guys who play multiple hours a day end up finding yourself in a good group with friends that chain "rmk" for dozens of runs. Imagine getting your core group and everyone agreeing to full or damage pot and play hard for the entire duration of the elixirs. If the "platinum spent to reward/bonus" ratio were worth it, I am sure I would go out and buy another large pack of platinum just to do those runs.

Like Drew mentioned, I think it really depends on the package. If its a good reward to cost ratio, like 2 hours of elixir for like 20 plat, then you will see a LOT of people running with it. If its more expensive like 2 hours for 50 plat, or perhaps 30 minutes for 20 plat, then you won't see nearly as many people with it on.

From a money making perspective, if they made it like 20 plat for 2 hours (or less) I think they will start raking in money from people who consistently run elixirs. Imagine a group of 5 who burn 20 plat every 2 hours at least a few times a week when they set up these "sewer marathons". They'd make a lot more than the maybe 200 plat I've spent on unlocking the maps and a name change (those are freakin' expensive btw), and a few luxury items or low level item packs.

The tough part would be balancing just how "OP" the people using the elixirs would be when compared to those who don't want to or have the money to spend. If they create too big of a divide between the "haves" and "have nots" then the "have nots" will all just quit and the whole game will deteriorate.

I think there is a lot of potential here, it really just comes down to how they implement it!

[RueMorgue]

Ok. Aliens oasis used to be an oasis to get away from noobs.....not anymore, I can live with it though. The elixer for plat= not good. Love the trinkits like grat shield and antenna I got today. REALLY REALLY IN LOVE WITH MEGA COMBOS!!! Not mad about main spine being free now. Decorations are ok, but reminds me of a USED CAR DEALERSHIP! Lol. Jk. Hope elixer controversy gets resolved. Appreciate all efforts....

RueMorgue: warrior 55
Furyfeathers: archer 55

[Kalielle]

As for those looking for a challenge of seeing if their Lvl 1 twink can solo the sewers... well, a simple enough change would be to check the max level on the account rather than the player.

I'd support this as my second choice alternative, if the restriction is here to stay.

Just like when maps were locked we only had to unlock them once on each account, so it would make sense to only have to unlock the campaigns once.

Any players who don't want the low level around can just say to him "bring your higher level" and they'll know for sure he has one.

[Kindread]

I still feel that this update punishes mid-echelon players and has made the gap between super-rich (in game) players and ppl who have already power leveled up to 56 very unfair.

With the elxir-gold-drain gone, CS prices are going to skyrocket and 55 lvl players are going to suffer.

What you have to understand is that if CS prices skyrocket, your pink drops skyrocket in price after sale so it's all relative. So unless you are planning to purchase pinks with only gold earned in mob drops, this isn't too big a problem.

[lilbyrdie]

I'd support this as my second choice alternative, if the restriction is here to stay.

Just like when maps were locked we only had to unlock them once on each account, so it would make sense to only have to unlock the campaigns once.

Any players who don't want the low level around can just say to him "bring your higher level" and they'll know for sure he has one.

Good points; it does fit, too.

I also just came to the realization that I might have to level my bird before returning to the ice zone. Why? Because I've had enough practice playing that my bird is flying through the quests -- mostly solo -- and is now about a full campaign ahead of where he should be. This was not the case with my enchantress, who was right on or behind. (Leveling is so fast at the lower levels, it's often hard to finish quests before out-leveling the zones they are in if you don't go about them quickly and efficiently.)

Thing is, I like to find items that I can use. Farming in a 30 zone with my 50 doesn't feel productive. Grinding in a 35 with my 25 also doesn't feel productive. When it's just right, I find useful items, and can stay engaged with the content because the xp and the items are both relevant.

My point? Most people don't have that problem with their first character through. But subsequent characters will usually be ahead of the curve, and now held back for basic grinding before moving forward.

A problem? Not sure.

You might just find an awesome low level pink while grinding in the boss-dense zones before moving on to the next areas. :)

In the meantime, your low level may accidentally help other low levels grind faster. I've been surprised by how bad some of the birds are at the same level as mine. It's like they don't change items or even have any... and they certainly have no idea how to set up combos, etc. But when they end up in a zone with my bird, the pace is much faster... (And I'm sure I'm no where near what Physio -- and other bird experts -- could do with a Level 20 something bird...) But, maybe the other folks learn from me because I'm not just powering through with my 50s friends...

Yet, could my bird be of any real help in sewers or ao3:vl? Probably not yet. Maybe in the low 40s...

So, I can see it both ways. But, I see that getting rid of most of the complaints would be with folks who have high level chars and can hold their own.

[vol]

hey. you should well think of this way. do not measure the cost of the money with your own way. this is not only belonged in The united States of America. isnt it?

It also can be found it the Television commercial. than now. how can you just measure the worth of 10$ for all of the users?

moreover although the cost is very cheap, you have to get right of customers. think about it..there is 1$ candy you bought..and it is decayed.

there are kinds of like you people just ignore it, cause it is only 1$. isnt it?

but there are also kind of people who would claim to the company. because the people like this, also like you people kinda think only cheap thought also can get customer service.

think over twice before you say son.

I'm not sure about WHY they changed all the main maps to free, but it really doesnt affect the people who have paid for the maps. After all the people who have paid for the maps thought it was a good idea at the time.

Of course I understand that not everyone is from the USA, in fact on the forums I get the feeling that perhaps only 50% are, but that doesn't change the fact that at the time whoever bought the maps thought it was a good idea.

Obviously STS is trying to draw in new players. I think the free maps idea is possibly going to backfire on them. I don't understand where their revenue is going to come from.

As far as candy decaying, it will decay if you leave the package open for 3 to 4 months. Once opened one should consume the contents quickly to ensure the optimal experience.

Nonetheless if I offended you with my disposal consumerism, then I apologize :p Id probably feel differently if I spent $100 rather than $10.

[Marcuz 4 Mel]

Whats with the blank bullet point? and Where did Players Online at the main menu go? D:

[Genes]

My point? Most people don't have that problem with their first character through. But subsequent characters will usually be ahead of the curve, and now held back for basic grinding before moving forward.

Nicely brought forth. Thank you lilbyrdie. Thank you.

[Demonicdevyn]

Ummm thats cool! anychance I can get the helm from my original acc on the one I use now?

[Snakespeare]

Hi, I don't have much feedback because I am on vacation.

One thing so far. If a recommended level is 15 to 20, then level 13 can join, but Shalerock says that my level 14 is too low. Is each map within a campaign the same minimum, or do these increase? Will Shalerock admit my character if I level up to 15? How can I find out?

NO WAIT... I can't host as a level 14. OK, I see now...

forget I said anything...

thanks

[Aziscitie]

love it so much...

[AnotherAzi]

Same point as Snakespeare - My lvl 39 should be able to join or host AO2 (within 2 of recommended 40-45), but I can do neither. I can lvl to 40 pretty quickly in AO1 but I'd like to be able to join AO3 at 43 instead of at 45, as this is my 3rd char. Thanks.

[vol]

My point? Most people don't have that problem with their first character through. But subsequent characters will usually be ahead of the curve, and now held back for basic grinding before moving forward.


My enchantress levels sooo slow that im basically getting every campaign done in one or two levels, requiring me to grind the next 3. Surely that isnt intended. Rather than giving away maps free the devs should be creating lower and higher level campaigns

[Skyler84]

Sorry, updated the original post with text that was already in the game patch notes:


Anyone that purchased any Main Spine content within the last 3 days will have their Platinum refunded.


-ALS

so for those who purchased any main spine within the last 3 days get platinum refunded while those who purchased main spine's map before the last 3 days gets the shield. not trying to be rude but here's a question for you: do you really think that shield is worth any close equivalence to the cost of main spine's maps?

If you do think so, then I will just tell you straight you are being very ungrateful to players who supported you believed that this is the best mobile game.
If you don't think so, then there are 3 way you can make things right. 1. Work out some refunds not less than 30 along with the shield. 2. Remove the shield and have a full refund. 3. Remove the shield and give us something more useful and comparable to a refund.

[pjburns]

Hooray for the devs! I am also sure they will get toasted for the elixir deal, but hey... if you want extra powers, pay. If not play!

[Matsuo Kaibutsu]

I also hate to sound ungrateful but I do agree. I purchased all the campaigns barely a month ago and this took most of the £12 I spent on Platinum to do. For it all to become free barely 4 weeks later makes me feel really cheated - not least because the shield is a really poor reward in terms of both usefulness and aesthetics.

I'd ask the good and attentive folks at Spacetime to have a good think about upping the reward for genuine long-term supporters, as well as those who were later to the party like me, but who still took a big leap of faith and paid some hard-earned towards their success. :-)

[Inching]

I also hate to sound ungrateful but I do agree. I purchased all the campaigns barely a month ago and this took most of the £12 I spent on Platinum to do. For it all to become free barely 4 weeks later makes me feel really cheated - not least because the shield is a really poor reward in terms of both usefulness and aesthetics.

I'd ask the good and attentive folks at Spacetime to have a good think about upping the reward for genuine long-term supporters, as well as those who were later to the party like me, but who still took a big leap of faith and paid some hard-earned towards their success. :-)

I agree....

my suggestion is to have a tiering system where people who joined the first 6 mths of the game gets a certain loot and the next 6 mths another kind of loot.

If its the same loot, at least have it different colors to distinguish the players who have been playing longer then others... also, dont keep giving out the loot when other players meet the 6 mths requirement, that doesnt make it exclusive..... to people who have been supporting from the beginning and it doesnt make sense.

[lilbyrdie]

My enchantress levels sooo slow that im basically getting every campaign done in one or two levels, requiring me to grind the next 3. Surely that isnt intended. Rather than giving away maps free the devs should be creating lower and higher level campaigns

During what levels? 10-25, IMO, are superfast and I've outleveled the quests multiple times.

25-35 leveling in relation to quests was slower, but I still generally was finishing quests after I hit the end of XP for the campaigns because leveling was so fast.

45-50 is a different story, but even there, hunting down 100 things from bosses -- where not each boss drops the thing -- is way more than enough to level several times before finishing the quests.

Just my experience, though...

[Radicalee]

My stash was full at the time of the Birthday update and i didnt get shield is there any other way to get one?

[vol]

During what levels? 10-25, IMO, are superfast and I've outleveled the quests multiple times.

25-35 leveling in relation to quests was slower, but I still generally was finishing quests after I hit the end of XP for the campaigns because leveling was so fast.

45-50 is a different story, but even there, hunting down 100 things from bosses -- where not each boss drops the thing -- is way more than enough to level several times before finishing the quests.

Just my experience, though...

I'd say 25-40, I blow through the content and have nothing to level. It seems I have to grind through 2 or 3 levels for every 2-3 I gain because I run out of content. Its fun though, I get to know all the maps intimately :) And I enjoy it so its no real biggie, especially when I get surrounded by a good tank.

[Apostar]

Thanks for the acknowledgement; without Pocket Legends we'd all be looking for something else to do lol.
Thanks for the shield; I'll gladly wait for the helmet.
Don't always agree with the changes that are done; but still it's a great game.

[glenns]

I also hate to sound ungrateful but I do agree. I purchased all the campaigns barely a month ago and this took most of the £12 I spent on Platinum to do. For it all to become free barely 4 weeks later makes me feel really cheated - not least because the shield is a really poor reward in terms of both usefulness and aesthetics.

I'd ask the good and attentive folks at Spacetime to have a good think about upping the reward for genuine long-term supporters, as well as those who were later to the party like me, but who still took a big leap of faith and paid some hard-earned towards their success. :-)


I totally agree, I purchased all maps on the 25th March and now they are all free, and all i get in return is a frankly rubbish shield. When i purchased my platinum i bought extra under the assumption that the developers would be adding more content to the game that i would have to buy. All they have done by changing they payment method is to allow themselves to get paid by making little or no changes to the real content of the game , rather than getting paid for adding new maps and levels they now get paid when we use an elixir.

another poster stated that most of us don't understand since we don't run business etc, well I do. If I totally changed my charging structure without a decent amount of notice my customers would be up in arms

If they were planning to make the main spine free they should have notified people at least a month in advance, perhaps 6 months since this is the cut off point for the helm. why is it people who paid in the last 3 days get their platinum back but not 4 days, 1 month or to be totally fair everyone who has wasted platinum on something that is now free ???

[DOAPSaint]

It's not going to be free forever guys... And I think it was a good idea... it doesn't make the game any less fun for us at all now does it?

[glenns]

It's not going to be free forever guys... And I think it was a good idea... it doesn't make the game any less fun for us at all now does it?

That was my initial thought, that this would be an anniversary thing but it now looks like i wasted my money. :mad: No, the game is not less fun but I spent the money to make it more fun, to get more areas to explore when I needn't have bothered, I could have saved my money.

If I had been playing for some time like yourself and got my money's worth I would not feel so annoyed, Its the 3 day thing that I find really annoying, they should refund at least half the platinum spent.

[dankndecay]

Dev,

On the recent change on elixirs, any chance you can make the elixirs last the full duration? I mean that elixir should still be active after deaths and instance changes. Since its fairly costly now to use them, we should get max usage out of them.

[Pokechmp]

On the next anniversary can we get the founders helm? Or something like it? I really want it. Probably good as or even better than the shield. If people wield the shield and the helm, pvp is no fair. I got the shield, but no helm:(

[LADYHADASSA]

On the next anniversary can we get the founders helm? Or something like it? I really want it. Probably good as or even better than the shield. If people wield the shield and the helm, pvp is no fair. I got the shield, but no helm:(

It seems you do not need to worry with the shields the stats and purple sparkles given to the shields, where taken away with this uodate.

[Fallen Caccavari]

I saw something Justg said on another post about everyone not getting their Platnium back. Because "It's the real world...blah blah blah BUT everyone who bought it in the past 3 days get a refund?"

How is that fair? If it's like the real world then no one should receive a refund. Those people didn't know they were gonna get their Platnium back when they were buying the campaigns just like we didn't know they were gonna be free eventually.

No one should get their Platnium back unless everyone does. Unless the people who actually spent real money (the kind that I have to break my back to make) get an incentive like the next batch of campaigns for free.

[asommers]

Closing this thread. You can discuss content updates in the latest content update thread.

-ALS