View Full Version : My Concerns regarding Jewel System
Frankly speaking, I don't know what's going on with this system. I consider it as a fail. Why?
Firstly,there are too many kinds of jewels(armor, MP, HP, crit, damage, Int, Dex, Str) and too many jewels needed to craft one ultimate jewel. It results at least 3^7*8=17496 jewels to be farmed to get one noble jewel.
Secondly, there are no reasons for MP, HP and armor jewels to exist if they provide the only stat. Recall what you have done in the old content. Grand reinforced gem provides +5 primary stat and + 25 armor while noble diamond jewel only provides +25.6 armor. Grand necroplis cursed skull provides +70 mana and mana steal on lv 16 gear while noble water jewel only provide +96 mana. Noble nature jewels provide less hp than elondrian gems on lv 41 gear too. They are all drawbacks to the original gems.
Lastly, what will happen to the energy essences when event comes? It will drive players to buy energy either in auction house or with plat because it is even more harder to get one crafted energy. Ursoth event is at the corner. It really needs changes.
They are all my personal opinions. Any constructive discussions are welcomed.
Wazakesy
07-03-2015, 01:01 AM
excuse me for a minute, noble jewels can be added to gears that have a minimum level 30. Only gears that are above lv30 can have noble jewels....Lol
Kingofninjas
07-03-2015, 01:20 AM
Agreed. Jewels are a joke. I plan on sticking to gems, especially since a regular fire gem gives 4 on lvl 46 gear, so grand would be 7 or 8. Noble jewels aren't worth the effort. para and eye gems are still by far the best combination. Jewels are a FAIL.
epicrrr
07-03-2015, 02:28 AM
This jewels are actually good! Big leap from the craft first launched. Choices are awesome so much build you can make. IDK about higher levels but jewels are cocococmbo breakerrr
I'm saying that on the same lv gears, old gems provide more boost and require less effort.
I always loot the Hp, Mp and armor jewels. Those are totally useless to me or to anybody. In the old times, we only can loot dex, int, str essences normally. During event, we may loot two more essences : energy and necropolis essence for example. At most, we can loot 5 kinds of essences previous. Now we have 8 and 3 of them(armor, hp, mp) is totally useless (crit: I just think it's not worth to go for this). So half of the chance we get garbage and we have to repeat 3^7 times to get noble jewel. You get the picture.
My solution is making the armor, hp, mp jewels drop in specific maps or to be looted during specific period and making them able to combine with other jewels so that we can craft something like tarlok gems.
This jewels are actually good! Big leap from the craft first launched. Choices are awesome so much build you can make. IDK about higher levels but jewels are cocococmbo breakerrr
I think hp jewels may be useful at low level pvp but in other circumstances not worth the effort.
Lastmind
07-03-2015, 02:36 AM
The primary stat jewels need a much higher drop rate.
excuse me for a minute, noble jewels can be added to gears that have a minimum level 30. Only gears that are above lv30 can have noble jewels....Lol
You didn't get my point. I don't care what level gear the noble jewels can be socketed to. I'm just saying: during old times, we have three primary stat essences and during event we have two more(energy and one specific event essence). So we may have 5 kinds at most. The chance you get one specific essence is 20%. but now we have 8 kinds of jewels and maybe one more jewel (energy) during event. We have lower chance to get what we desire. Moreover the secondary stat jewels(armor, hp, mp, crit maybe) is meaningless. They can be useful when they are able to combine with primary stat jewels.
Wazakesy
07-03-2015, 02:53 AM
You didn't get my point. I don't care what level gear the noble jewels can be socketed to. I'm just saying: during old times, we have three primary stat essences and during event we have two more(energy and one specific event essence). So we may have 5 kinds at most. The chance you get one specific essence is 20%. but now we have 8 kinds of jewels and maybe one more jewel (energy) during event. We have lower chance to get what we desire. Moreover the secondary stat jewels(armor, hp, mp, crit maybe) is meaningless. They can be useful when they are able to combine with primary stat jewels.
each map has a high amount chance to X jewel. Tindirin rockhorn has a 50% (full run or halfway) to get you a lightning jewel, while in wilds i solely had to 8 runs to get one...
jarsofklym
07-03-2015, 02:58 AM
Better they do a combo jewels like before tarlok gem or reinforce gem than this seperate hp,mana,int etc.
Energizeric
07-03-2015, 07:10 AM
Why is it that everyone wants to have everything right away, and then when they get everything right away, they complain that they are bored LOL
The idea of jewels is that it will take you months to complete them. Figure that this expansion is probably going to have to last another year just like the last one as STS is no longer going to release new content every 3 months. So they need quests and/or tasks that are going to take all of that time so that players do not get bored. So instead of having to farm for new gear every couple of months, you can farm for new jewels.
And remember one more VERY IMPORTANT thing.... jewels can be removed from one item and added to another. So once you get that +8 jewel, now you can keep using it over and over every time you upgrade your gear. I much prefer this to the old luck based system where every time I got new gear I had to start over with the gem luck process hoping for a grand gem.
Arrowz
07-03-2015, 07:30 AM
No, your just wrong. Not every map drops every kind of jewel. Or if it does then the drop rate for some are insanely low. Like when i was lvling up my new rogue to 17 i literally only got nature and water jewels, 2 is less than 3 so for all of those maps there is an ever GREATER chance to get an energy essence.
Visiting
07-03-2015, 09:20 AM
While I like the SYSTEM far more than the jewel system, I can't seem to bring myself to gem my gear with gems (even at the noble level) that are outstripped by better types of gems (Eyes/Paras/Grand Tarloks.).
coldheart
07-03-2015, 10:35 AM
For me I think its better ..because u just need to farm and craft for better stats instead of resocketing every 12 hrs with a low chance to get a grand gem..just my opinion.:-)
Doobiez
07-03-2015, 10:49 AM
I don't know why everyone's complaining this new system is way better then gems
Arrowz
07-03-2015, 11:32 AM
The system is better but the problem is, the jewels arent better
Energizeric
07-03-2015, 11:38 AM
The system is better but the problem is, the jewels arent better
The jewels are not better than a few of the gems. So if you can afford it, sure it's best to fill your gear with para and eye gems, and even reinforced gems if you can manage to get a grand gem. But jewels are better than the regular blood/fire/glacial gems. And soon enough those other gems will be all gone, and then we will be using only jewels.
Yes, these new jewels each only have one single stat. But your gear has a total of 12-18 jewel slots, so you can mix and match to get the same configuration as you would have with gems that had multiple stats per gem.
I think what is bugging people is there is no longer any clear "best" jewel. So just like your skill points, it will be up to you to decide how to configure your jewels. And everyone will be different. So be creative.
twoxc
07-03-2015, 12:04 PM
results at least 3^7*8=17496 jewels to be farmed to get one noble jewel.
your math is right but also wrong xD. 3^7=1 noble jewel. 3^7*8=8 noble jewel. So it's 17496 jewel to be farmed to get 8 noble jewel ^^
It's only been couple of days lol. Some probably already spend 5-10m just get 1 Noble gem. Which they then don't have to worry about anymore and can use that one noble between all their equip and new equip. but it doesn't end there. If you want a complete noble on all slots of your gears you gonna need 18 piece xD. It's a lot to farm or buy lol, this keep everyone playing and busy doing something and killing something.
Haligali
07-03-2015, 12:08 PM
Agreed. Jewels are a joke. I plan on sticking to gems, especially since a regular fire gem gives 4 on lvl 46 gear, so grand would be 7 or 8. Noble jewels aren't worth the effort. para and eye gems are still by far the best combination. Jewels are a FAIL.
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Haligali
07-03-2015, 12:46 PM
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/03/6c69a68c95a2a6f852adfe7e6bb7007f.jpg
LOL
Elon:
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/03/63c96e8fb0e9e53f1ea7f52dd450f4fe.jpg
Skull:
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/03/565d98a1494937a80efae9bf1057460b.jpg
But tarlok is same:
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/03/2a91926d6977e34c4840b10fcc91bcdd.jpg
And eye stats are hidden -.-
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results at least 3^7*8=17496 jewels to be farmed to get one noble jewel.
your math is right but also wrong xD. 3^7=1 noble jewel. 3^7*8=8 noble jewel. So it's 17496 jewel to be farmed to get 8 noble jewel ^^
It's only been couple of days lol. Some probably already spend 5-10m just get 1 Noble gem. Which they then don't have to worry about anymore and can use that one noble between all their equip and new equip. but it doesn't end there. If you want a complete noble on all slots of your gears you gonna need 18 piece xD. It's a lot to farm or buy lol, this keep everyone playing and busy doing something and killing something.
My math may not be good but u didn't get my point. I'm talking about the approximate number to get one specific noble jewel. When u farm 3^7*8 jewels, u definitely can get 8 noble jewels, but if most of them are hp, mp, armor or even crit which are unwanted, what do u think?
The drop rate info should be clarified with the STS designer. And someone talks about specific map drops specific jewels. Chaos maybe. But Hp, Mp, Armor just exist everywhere. I personally get these jewels very often. They just stuff the drop list but do nothing good.
Btw, I only criticize the garbage jewels they put into the drop list.
Why there is not Hp ,Mp regen gems? I suppose they will be more popular and welcomed.
MissVy
07-04-2015, 12:01 AM
And remember one more VERY IMPORTANT thing.... jewels can be removed from one item and added to another. So once you get that +8 jewel, now you can keep using it over and over every time you upgrade your gear. I much prefer this to the old luck based system where every time I got new gear I had to start over with the gem luck process hoping for a grand gem.
Wow this is good to know. Have u tried this? And does this work on lower crafted jewels? i.e. Cracked, damaged,weak etc?
Wazakesy
07-04-2015, 12:23 AM
Wow this is good to know. Have u tried this? And does this work on lower crafted jewels? i.e. Cracked, damaged,weak etc?
it applies to the entire range of jewels, you can remove and add them anytime, dont worry about loosing them, you wont loose them if you removed them from a piece of an equipment! :)
MissVy
07-04-2015, 04:42 PM
If resocketing option is available. The prices will drop due to excess supplies in game. Water and Nature is losing value atm. For me personally, might still stick to fury, mind and finesse in socketing equips.
Also note that Chaos is just raw damage and Paracelsus still has an awesome multiplier... Or so I've heard.
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