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Formora
04-27-2011, 07:44 AM
I'm just wondering how much difference there is in terms of skill damage while wearing Fury Fighter Sword/Shield and Mega Mage Wand/Bracer sets. Could anyone post the skill damage for spells (drain, frost bite, lightning etc.) and also heal while using the MM set? Preferably with a pure int mage. That would be greatly appreciated.

Moogerfooger
04-27-2011, 07:55 AM
Elar! How are ya! Umm, am I reading this wrong? There is no way a pure int mage can wear Fury....a Pally can, but then skill damage is down, especially on heal. Or was that int part only for the MM part?

Formora
04-27-2011, 08:03 AM
Moogiefoogie ;) Hehe, even auto correct remembered your name.

Yeah, I was referring to pure int for MM set only. That way I can get the best possible skill damage. Right now I'm a pally, and yes skill damage really suffers. My heal does 80-160, lol. Basically I want to know if switching is worth it, because by comparing just stats fury comes out on top (more dodge, armor and the rest are about even). I'm more pvp-oriented right now.

FluffNStuff
04-27-2011, 08:08 AM
The big difference between the two will be the loss of Int toward skill damage. Don't have numbers though as I pallish hybrish.

Formora
04-27-2011, 08:16 AM
I am str/dex, no int at all :) I'm seriously considering pure int now. Just looking for the numbers to convince me.

Moogerfooger
04-27-2011, 08:24 AM
Ahh, so that is where you have been hiding out :p

I just sold my MM Bracer set...but I do remember skill damage generally being in the 275-350 range, and if you used a MM Gemstone Staff (of course losing some armor) it was ridiculous, like Drain doing something like 340-405. RedRyder and Noneo are 55 MM Bracer mages, ping them via PM or maybe someone else will chime in.

Echelong
04-27-2011, 08:26 AM
Let me see if I can respec and post some pics of mine enchanted set and naked so you can see. But even using half dex/int I lose like 30-40 points on skills and a lot more on heal. I was using custom set to test out pvp and 107 crit but even then you lose to much. I will check with DT since he has full MM wand/bracer set.

Formora
04-27-2011, 08:34 AM
Thanks moog, I will check with them. Haha pvp is so fun, and mitsui is getting sucked into it as well.

No need to respec just for me Eche, unless you were already planning to :) I tried pvp with custom set, and liked it at first. I think the amazing crit (100+ with buff?) makes up for te slight loss of spell damage but I died quickly. Pally is a very tanky and I still like it but I just wanna try pure int for a bit. Haven't been pure since ao3 cosmos set times.

Echelong
04-27-2011, 09:24 AM
Here are some SS using a mix of dex/int and pure int. Also heal is a lot different with dex you lose more than 60 I think (forgot to take the SS but I was in a hurry hehe) but it is a substantial loss. I was gonna respec sooner or later so why not to help you out. If DT logs he can tell you about the difference between fury/MM
This is Dual spec dex/int with custom set
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff490/Echelong/a33a0349.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff490/Echelong/89383e78.jpg

This is Dual spec dex/int with enchanted set
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff490/Echelong/eff6b3ff.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff490/Echelong/21f6d4ba.jpg

This is pure int with enchanted set
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff490/Echelong/2f19931b.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff490/Echelong/e020be79.jpg

Arterra
04-27-2011, 09:31 AM
Dex str Mage? No wonder lol. My heal as pally is somewhere at 200 as a dual int/str.

I get maybe 40 more damage with a staff than with a sword for skills, I think I compare with firestorm.

Doubletime
04-27-2011, 09:37 AM
I'm not where I can log at the moment. But I am dual spec str/intel on my mage. I can equip either full FF for pally or full MM for intel. I'll log on in a couple hours when I get a chance. But from memory I can tell you there is a huge difference between my skill damage just changing from FF to MM gear. Around 60 pts of damage gets added going to wand bracer and close to 80 points for MM and staff. Because of thisi almost ways switch to and intel staff setup for bosses or when I need a lot of aoe damage.

JaytB
04-27-2011, 09:50 AM
Interesting gear to consider for pve is fortified on pally. The dmg increase it gives you over fury is definitely very noticable, while survivability is only a little less in some circumstances. That is, if you can live with the limited mana regen.

I tried it on my mage, and liked it a lot. I just like to do as much dmg as I can, so I'm back to pure int... For now :)

MITSUISUN
04-27-2011, 10:07 AM
Elar bro, let me know if u wanna try full enchanted for a while later on. U know my schedule heh. I have some ss and can post full enchanted full int skill damage later

If u gonna switch to full int from pally then we need do bird bear pvp, I only like fights that last long like against ur pally hehe

Formora
04-27-2011, 10:27 AM
Thanks you guys, I really appreciate all the input. I have already transitioned to pure int Mage with MM wand set. Haven't tried pve, but pvp didn't go well. I guess practice makes perfect, so I won't give up just yet.

Mitsui :) Yeah I think I should try enchanted staff set for pvp. Spell damage increases like 30-40 I think from MM wand set. I don't think I will go back to pally, although it was a lot easier to play. I will need practice with int mage, gonna call my punching bag ;)

BlazeMystic
04-27-2011, 10:39 AM
http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc431/mattcookc/9d01a608-1.jpg

Not sure if this will help here is my full int mage with mega mage armour - rings etc taken off. Never inserted an image before, so hope it works.....

And I just realised that you've already equipped to MM... oh well never mind. At least now I know how to insert images lol :)

j46g629h
04-27-2011, 10:46 AM
Here are some SS using a mix of dex/int and pure int.

Hey Eche,

Can you post your skill damage with Dual spec (dex/int) and full int. Skills include heal, firestorm, drain life

Thanks.

Doubletime
04-27-2011, 02:03 PM
I finally was able to sign on and here are the actually numbers for skill damage. As I mentioned, this is on a dual spec str/intel mage. No rings, or other buffs included. Just the gear and set bonus. Since this one is a 56 - the stats are 141 str/142 intel. I checked 4 skills all maxed out at level 6. I also did a quick respec to check and see the difference for a pure intel mage (318 int).

FF Set (dual spec)
Lightning 210-306
Heal 102-206
Fire 215-298
Drain 245-352

MM Bracer Wand Set (dual spec)
Lightning 235-341
Heal 110-223
Fire 243-334
Drain 273-390

MM Blast Staff set (dual spec)
Lightning 279-382
Heal 108-219
Fire 286-374
Drain 316-430

MM Blast Staff set (pure intel mage)
Lightning 301-431
Heal 131-267
Fire 314-426
Drain 344-486

Echelong
04-27-2011, 02:08 PM
Hey Eche,

Can you post your skill damage with Dual spec (dex/int) and full int. Skills include heal, firestorm, drain life

Thanks.

I can't post dex/int at the moment I just respec to full int but I will post fire storm and drain life damage. Heal is affected at least 60-80 points it is a lot. I was using dex just for fun I find full int more practical and dual with str is very good also. For me pure is the way to go, it is harder to keep alive but thats just part of the fun.

Addicted
04-27-2011, 02:58 PM
FF Set (dual spec)
Lightning 210-306
Heal 102-206
Fire 215-298
Drain 245-352

MM Bracer Wand Set (dual spec)
Lightning 235-341
Heal 110-223
Fire 243-334
Drain 273-390


I know you already respeced to pure INT, but thought I add a little info...

I have been playing with a Fortified Set (with sword and shield) on my dual spec pally and I really like it. Here are some stats to compare with Doubletime's numbers:

Fortified Sword/Shield Set (dual spec)
Lightning 241-337
Heal 102-206
Fire 247-329
Drain 277-383

The numbers are very similar to MM set with wand/bracer but my armor is 183 with no buffs, 223 with buff. I also have a crazy amount of HS regen at 45. I don't PVP at level 55, but I imagine hs of 45 would be very handy. If I add a Fine Crystal Ring of Life (unequiped for the numbers above) my MS regen is at 10, which isn't too bad with the new GDC.

Whirlzap
04-27-2011, 03:36 PM
I'm a pure int mage and i do 180-300 with heals.
Level 44