The over priced dragonite bar

[hakoom7]

Ok so arcane shard now officially lower than half the price of dragonite bar. Thats ok shards easier to get than bars

What about pendant ? Isnt it kinda not fair for players who has no pendant and cant afford bars ? Im very late on making pendant and yes thats my fault for quitting the game long ago, but now I worked and everything ready to make pendant except!!!!! Bar

Its kinda redicolous that now pendant is worth 5m and need so much work, I swear its harder now to make pendant than arcane ring, so to make pendant u already need around 2 weeks of daily farming and now u need atleast 4 weeks to farm that plus farm tooth .. I know its fun to keep us busy and work hard for our gear but sometimes its too much work.

Cant we make bars worth less teeth ? Or pendant need something easier ? I mean theres already soooo much to keep us busy farming none stop :/

[Caabatric]

Lets just destroy another method of making gold!!!! While we are at it make 3x drop for vials, 2x drop for teeth, 2x lock drop chance......

[Bigboyblue]

I quit a long time ago and need to craft the pendant as well. From what I hear the recipe use to be 20 mil. I just bought it for under 200k. So 200k recipe + 250k stone + 4.5mil bar = 5 mil. 1/4 of original recipe price. That being said I feel your pain. I just finished farming a bar for arcane ring and now I need to do it all over again.

[Bluebatthing]

You forgot jewels....
Lets just destroy another method of making gold!!!! While we are at it make 3x drop for vials, 2x drop for teeth, 2x lock drop chance......

[Titanfall]

Yea how about we make a 6x teeth drop weekend?
No go farm for it if you want to get an item so powerful (current known best amulet) then go farm like the rest of us.

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[debitmandiri]

U werent there when looted a single recipe is a pain bro, now it cost only 200k (lol?) @ auction

Ps : recipe price was 10-15m range... Still more expensive than a bar right now :)

[Helal]

Yea how about we make a 6x teeth drop weekend?
No go farm for it if you want to get an item so powerful (current known best amulet) then go farm like the rest of us.

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Woow is that really you ?? Go farm for it ?? Why you did not say the same for arcane items ?

U were happy that arcane items price went down ,, and now u protect bar price !!!

U know shard price is 1mil and bar price 5mil!??

Why you do not buy plat like the rest of us to get arcane items you need !!??

You said ( how about we make a 6 teeth drop weekend )

Are you working on sts company ? Plz i need to know if you are !!? Why did you say (we)

[Helal]

Ok so arcane shard now officially lower than half the price of dragonite bar. Thats ok shards easier to get than bars

What about pendant ? Isnt it kinda not fair for players who has no pendant and cant afford bars ? Im very late on making pendant and yes thats my fault for quitting the game long ago, but now I worked and everything ready to make pendant except!!!!! Bar

Its kinda redicolous that now pendant is worth 5m and need so much work, I swear its harder now to make pendant than arcane ring, so to make pendant u already need around 2 weeks of daily farming and now u need atleast 4 weeks to farm that plus farm tooth .. I know its fun to keep us busy and work hard for our gear but sometimes its too much work.

Cant we make bars worth less teeth ? Or pendant need something easier ? I mean theres already soooo much to keep us busy farming none stop :/

I think bar days is gone we need to craft ring or amulet with out bar

[Energizeric]

I wouldn't bother with the amulet Hakoom. There will be a level 46 mythic amulet which will be released with the new elites sometime soon. It was already announced. It it were cheap I would say go for it. But at 5m, I'd say wait.

[Bluebatthing]

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Why you do not buy plat like the rest of us to get arcane items you need !!??


The rest of us? Really?

[Titanfall]

Woow is that really you ?? Go farm for it ?? Why you did not say the same for arcane items ?

U were happy that arcane items price went down ,, and now u protect bar price !!!

U know shard price is 1mil and bar price 5mil!??

Why you do not buy plat like the rest of us to get arcane items you need !!??

You said ( how about we make a 6 teeth drop weekend )

Are you working on sts company ? Plz i need to know if you are !!? Why did you say (we)
Erm what? I was being sarcastic when I said lets make a 6x drop weekend, and what do you mean why did I not say the same for arcanes? I dont remember saying go buy plat and get arcanes.
Dragonite bar is FARMED, something that takes WORK.
Arcanes drop from LOCKS, and CANT be farmed.
"Buy plat to get arcane items" this game wasnt labelled P2W when I started 2 years ago, if it changed please show me?
Best gear should be farmed one way or another, or else its not F2P
Why am I not defending arcane items price? They dont take any hardwork or farming to require just popping locks. If they drop it wont affect the games farming.
Why am I defending the bar price? It affects the endgame community if it became 1mil there'd be alot less worth farming for thus it'd be the very first steps to a season 7 remake. Happy?
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[Helal]

Erm what? I was being sarcastic when I said lets make a 6x drop weekend, and what do you mean why did I not say the same for arcanes? I dont remember saying go buy plat and get arcanes.
Dragonite bar is FARMED, something that takes WORK.
Arcanes drop from LOCKS, and CANT be farmed.
"Buy plat to get arcane items" this game wasnt labelled P2W when I started 2 years ago, if it changed please show me?
Best gear should be farmed one way or another, or else its not F2P
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do you think platinum users find them money on ths street !!

they worked hard to get the money so when they spend money on game they deseirve better

And please take this thread Seriously

Thanks

[Titanfall]

do you think platinum users find them money on ths street !!

they worked hard to get the money so when they spend money on game they deseirve better

And please take this thread Seriously

Thanks
Do you think farmers just run and get items instantly? Do you think we dont waste time, get bored and even stress sometimes? :O we farm hard we deserve for spending our time that money will never buy.

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[Bmwmsix]

Lol @ overpriced made my day, how about if you start farming elite tindirin? If you got a good party and enough time.. 20hours hardcore farming gets you a bar...bang :banana:

[Bigboyblue]

Sort of off topic but has any dev stated that the new amulet will be better anywhere? I don't feel like searching and something makes me think they were hinting to the opposite.

[Bidiel]

lol just play, if is to expensive, try to get yours, if is to hard then don´t try, that is the same thing that happen with non-plat users, but now they can get good gears and you no, all because you even do not wanna farm, now all farmers players have a little prove of the power of their work, hard work and the fun of play

[Ratiomod]

If you wait 10 months you can buy new mythic set very cheap. Take a break meanwhile.

[MissVy]

tbh, drag bar prices are fair.... I went ballistic when I heard that there was a time when dragbars were below 1M... The time effort and repetitive runs is not worth 600k.. I don't know who sold dragbars for that amount maybe before the economy was inflated or something. But now that I'm grinding teeth (pun intended) I say 5M better be worth that effort!
Maybe when there's a lot of people with drag bars supply/demand mechanics will kick in. But for most, the reason they're farming is because they got the arcane shard. Because if you're late in the party, 150 teeth is a long road for makin money and once you're at the end of the road, prices might be different my friend. ;)

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[Excuses]

I like that farmable item became expensive and crate pop items getting affpaffordble .

More people can afford best gears and pets, not only few %.
And who actually play game gets advantage.

Only problem I see so far is that toor is broken.

[Titanfall]

Back on topic, dear OP. If everyone one else who grinded a drag bar for the past year has legitimately worked and spent countless hours of their life farming 150 teeth like everyone else, does anything make you special to lower the required teeth now just because the price has risen? I don't mean to be harsh but this is pretty insulting to people who have been grinding teeth and working for their bars. It's a smack in the face to everyone who's farmed a bar for personal use over the last month to prepare to craft arcane rings and planar pendants.

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[Ravager]

I wouldn't bother with the amulet Hakoom. There will be a level 46 mythic amulet which will be released with the new elites sometime soon. It was already announced. It it were cheap I would say go for it. But at 5m, I'd say wait.

Considering that the recent teaser we got was Ursoth vanities, elite may be a ways off. Usually before something as big as an event, we will see more teasers such as boss or gear teasers. We have seen none for elite but the first step for Ursoth. With this, we may get Ursoth even before we get elites. Thats 3 to 4 weeks for this event and maybe even a cooldown. And then elites may be released. So thats quite a while without pendant.

We all cant capitalize on gold making or gold saving situations but at least bar is farmable.

[Jazzi]

I gotta say, I think that dragonite bar is finally where it should be considering the time and effort one has to put in to obtain it.

[Edward Coug]

I gotta say, I think that dragonite bar is finally where it should be considering the time and effort one has to put in to obtain it.

Amen to that. It is such a grind.

To the OP: You might not be able to afford to buy one, but you can certainly afford farm one. If you're looking for someone to run T3 with for planar essences, send me a PM. I miss running it.

[Overweightank]

STS: Please keep teeth and bar as it is. Money is fair play now. Plat spenders can just buy anhk kits and sell (elites release; hint, hint)

People can finally farm bar and either make pendant or arcane ring with it, or farm and sell to get geared.

Elites gonna be SUPER hard. No one can find second map elites easy. The density is so insane that even a Nekro tank won't help you enough. So all these arcanes may not even be enough, therefore it is not 'unfair' :)

SnS should remain as a Govermental pet gone wrong, dont bring back. (I dont own SNS and I agree it should stay discontinued or be a lb prize just as it was in the first ursoth event)

:)

[Newcomx]

Dragonite bar price is fair because the cost of farming teeth also high and take a long time to gather 150 teeth.

[BottleNexz]

I'm super surprised the hard working farmer didn't take this opportunity to get their own back and start listing bar for 120 million.

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[Bluebatthing]

That's appalling!!!


Around 50m gold is more reasonable...
I'm super surprised the hard working farmer didn't take this opportunity to get their own back and start listing bar for 120 million.

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[mmaachilles211]

do you think platinum users find them money on ths street !!

they worked hard to get the money so when they spend money on game they deseirve better

And please take this thread Seriously

Thanks

Bro seriously? Plat is used to help you progress at a faster rate then your peers who choose not to use it. It is not meant to make you a God among men. What is the point to complaining because the bar costs more and plat can't do anything to help you...well it could if you converted plat to gold but that's a waste of plat. Point being having something valuable for 90% of the community is a great thing and nothing to complain about.

Oh and just for transparency I'm a plat user.

[hakoom7]

Ok I wasn't expecting this much attention on this topic and this much ... hate? Idk im confused lol

My topic was theres already so much to dooooo I mean somehow people well eventually feel over loaded and so far away and iv seen it happening in other game, so many new things came at once so much to do people started losing interest slowly

Arcane legends was a game of challenge, people farm work hard and then challenge each other for power and maybe fame and its fun, but now it got way out of track.. u need almost 1 year to work on jewels and maybe 2 months to work on dragonite bar and probably one month on crafting new mythic level 46 ? Oh wait thats still coming and maybe its even harder than pendant.

Great more stress .. id rather loot stuff in lockeds. Yeah spending is awesome

And please stop saying "go farm like the rest of us" iv been playing since season one and I know how thing works and trust me iv worked so hard to be on leader board and have decent set, so thank you for your hateful advice but I dont need it.

All I asked for is making dragonite easier ..maybe increase teeth drop rate? or maybe make it worth 100 teeth ? Or maybe let it drop in lockeds ?
And I believe thats not only useful for me its for all of us -.-

[Wazakesy]

Ok I wasn't expecting this much attention on this topic and this much ... hate? Idk im confused lol

My topic was theres already so much to dooooo I mean somehow people well eventually feel over loaded and so far away and iv seen it happening in other game, so many new things came at once so much to do people started losing interest slowly

Arcane legends was a game of challenge, people farm work hard and then challenge each other for power and maybe fame and its fun, but nkw it got way out of track.. u need almost 1 yearrto work on jewels and maybe 2 months to work on dragonite bar and probably one month on crafting new mythic level 46 ? Oh wait thats still coming.
Great more stress ..

And please stop saying "go farm like the rest of us" iv been playing since season one and I know how thing works and trust me iv orked sk hard to be on leader board and have decent set, so thank you for your hateful advice.

All I asked for is making dragonite easier ..maybe increase teeth drop rate? or maybe make it worth 100 teeth ?
And I believe thats not only useful for me its for all of us -.-

Not trying to be rude.

That is why it is called "farming". Did you even try to farm for a breeze egg/Planarite Ingot? It is almost the same thing. Youre supposed to farm to make gold - merching has had its time, right?, we need something to keep this farming alive for at least a month or so, at least some way where even a non-experienced player can make upto 4 or even 5m within a period of time. Nobody asks you to go hardcore, if you play this game for a short period of time then try to farm jewels,they have a fine drop rate and farm as many chaos as you can, they sell more then a normal rengol locked crate.

[Ravager]

Ok I wasn't expecting this much attention on this topic and this much ... hate? Idk im confused lol

My topic was theres already so much to dooooo I mean somehow people well eventually feel over loaded and so far away and iv seen it happening in other game, so many new things came at once so much to do people started losing interest slowly

Arcane legends was a game of challenge, people farm work hard and then challenge each other for power and maybe fame and its fun, but now it got way out of track.. u need almost 1 year to work on jewels and maybe 2 months to work on dragonite bar and probably one month on crafting new mythic level 46 ? Oh wait thats still coming and maybe its even harder than pendant.

Great more stress .. id rather loot stuff in lockeds. Yeah spending is awesome

And please stop saying "go farm like the rest of us" iv been playing since season one and I know how thing works and trust me iv worked so hard to be on leader board and have decent set, so thank you for your hateful advice but I dont need it.

All I asked for is making dragonite easier ..maybe increase teeth drop rate? or maybe make it worth 100 teeth ? Or maybe let it drop in lockeds ?
And I believe thats not only useful for me its for all of us -.-

I think sts was trying to find a balance of things. Old days we would open 1000 locks or more with 3 items in each. 3000 rolls for 15000 plat not considering sales or random plat inside crates.

Nowadays most will open the 5 plat single item single token locks. If you did this with 15000 plat you would probably end up with more than one arcane since, for one, it seems like better drop rate and the insurance of getting something through the token system. You can still make decent money off of open crates but the ratio between trading items of arcane vs a f2p hardwork item is higher now. Rather than the 1 arcane item you would have looted with 15000 plat you might have to consider the (hopefully) 3 or 4 items you looted and the 1 or 2 crate token items you got to reach, get and/or trade what you want.

[vawaid]

let me finish my first ever bar, I need 20 teeth more to my first ever arcane item.

and let's farm teeth together if you want, I will be happy to have a party with a pro.

And, let's feel the pain together. just like the rest of us.

[Titanfall]

Ok I wasn't expecting this much attention on this topic and this much ... hate? Idk im confused lol

My topic was theres already so much to dooooo I mean somehow people well eventually feel over loaded and so far away and iv seen it happening in other game, so many new things came at once so much to do people started losing interest slowly

Arcane legends was a game of challenge, people farm work hard and then challenge each other for power and maybe fame and its fun, but now it got way out of track.. u need almost 1 year to work on jewels and maybe 2 months to work on dragonite bar and probably one month on crafting new mythic level 46 ? Oh wait thats still coming and maybe its even harder than pendant.

Great more stress .. id rather loot stuff in lockeds. Yeah spending is awesome

And please stop saying "go farm like the rest of us" iv been playing since season one and I know how thing works and trust me iv worked so hard to be on leader board and have decent set, so thank you for your hateful advice but I dont need it.

All I asked for is making dragonite easier ..maybe increase teeth drop rate? or maybe make it worth 100 teeth ? Or maybe let it drop in lockeds ?
And I believe thats not only useful for me its for all of us -.-
I believe this is very unuseful to people who are farming a bar to sell, if they can do it Im sure you can too, just 10 teeth a day is only a 2 week wait, keep pushing.
Im not trying to be rude, so dont take this as me flaming you, but Im strongly agreeing with Safiras and Wazakesy, that this is a core part of every successful long term MMORPG, and thats farming. It shouldnt change now just because you can afford a shard now and before you couldnt, Id hate to say this but IMO its just having a lazy attitude ("Meh too expensive Ill hope for a change or something"). If everything was obtainable in 1 week, the games lifespan would decrease, you'd be happy for a day then be like 'erm now what?'. Ive played MMOs where the best gear is obtainable in a few days, and they bore me so, so fast. So Im glad my gears taking a long time to earn. Once again, not trying to be rude, but if you dont like the idea of farming, I recommend to stay away from most MMMORPGs.
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[Socrates]

I would love to be able to buy drag bar with fragments because everything you can buy now with only fragments doesn't worth buying..... And because fragments have a guarranted drop rate maybe increase the fragments you will have to loot for a drag bar to around 300 fragments (150 runs)....

[hakoom7]

How you want to play the game does not come as easily as before. And to tell you the truth I like it.

Before, just opening crates was enough to give you all the items that you need. Monetary investment to a certain degree could allow a new player to essentially buy their way into the higher tiers of the game.

Now the emphasis has shifted to farming for your gear. The shift actually happened ages ago, it just did not become apparent till recently when items such as fossils, shards and planar pendant recipes became increasingly common. Then people started scrambling for the other essential crafting items that could not be simply "bought": vials and dragonite bars.

What's the issue now? Before and now the recipes for the best items had hardly changed. Arcane ring is in fact EVEN EASIER to craft now that essences have been taken out of the recipe. Just get a bar and combine it with a shard. The only difference is that people have not been farming for bars and now the demand for bars has dramatically exploded due to the oversupply of shards and everyone wants a ring.

The blunt truth is exactly what you do not want to hear: that you HAVE to farm, if not then pay the price. It has never been easy to farm for a bar; and it should not change today even if everyone else has a shard but no bar. If you do not want to pay 4-5mil for a bar, FARM. I have guildies slaving endlessly for days in Tindirin and are duly rewarded for their patience and diligence with a windfall that allows them to gear themselves up. I myself have spent hours to farm a bar and sell it at a reasonable price to a good friend who was mature enough to recognise that if he did not wish to farm for it, he had to pay the price of effort that was needed to farm it to the people who were willing to make the sacrifice of time. If you want to sit around all day just chatting or stay in PvP all the time, fair enough- then be fully prepared to lose the chance to farm and get the gear that you want, while others who recognise that the time to farm is now and willingly stay away from PvP to grind till they get good gear. You can't have your cake and eat it anymore.

I love the game now. There are many ways to earn money, many things to do. Stop trying to make things simpler because you feel you have earned your right after playing forever- I've played since season 1 myself, and I never ever asked for a handout from STS to make it easier for me to gear up. believe it or not I worked for all my gear, and I fully support the farmers out there who have benefitted from the current system. Power to the people who have earned their keep the hard way.

Ok I agree on that and yes I admitted it already I hate farming and im feeling over loaded I wanna farm this and that and lets be honest .. if you all didnt have arcane rings already you would have maybe agreed even a little bit with me, and yes I know you have the ring when it was worth 100m not 7m and I had before and sold it and re bought and sold and economy exploded somehow and things changed thats again not the topic.

I was only asking for making one thing easier since the demand is so high on bars and the teeth is so hard to farm, why you all coming here fighting this ? You have rings and pendant basically you dont need bars (not to mention your stash probably has 50m at least) but again im out of topic so yeah your not feeling the stress your geared and only farming for fun or maybe to get one or 2 extra items

But look at it in my point of view. Openned 400 ren lockeds got shard and toor only so basically got back the gold I lost in buying the lockeds im completely un geared need gun pendant ring new armor belt better runes and oh wait theres newer armor and helm coming .. so yes im pretty over loaded and sometimes I sit in maps thinking should I go farm teeth or lockeds or ancient essence or jewels or parchs eventually I do few runs of each and sometimes fall asleep during the run.

So again why you all fighting this ? Trust me theres much more stuff to keep me busy

[Kharjojo]

Nothing against your point of view, all players deserves to share their 2 cents here but really i cannot understand what's wrong in hard farming.
We all know, is soooooo boring cause we need to run and re-run the same maps and we might have better things to do but this is an old story and i don't see any different way!
With the insane arcane loots popped out from lockeds it's obvious.. the farmable ingredients you'll need to craft your ring/your nekro has to be expensive if you don't want to farm for it, 'cause a player has worked hard on it and the efforts, in my points of view, needs to be repayed.

[Trojan2100]

You know what is the problem with you people ? You worry about how others get their gears . Seriously didn't you learn not just be happy with what you have instead of comparing to others? For me I don't care if others get their stuff easier or took less time to get it than I did. Do you do that in real life ? Few of you need to turn off your device and think really hard , think about what kind of person you have become.

[hakoom7]

We are not out to get you, let this be clear. We are fighting the mindset of entitlement- that someone thinks that everything should come easily.

I may lack the perspective that comes from being in a position that comes with lacking gear, but I am in no way unaware of the difficulty of the task that's facing people who want to craft an arcane ring. I just spent a week grinding in Elite wilds to a bar which I sold, and I am now in the process of grinding a second one. I don't need the bars, I'm just capitalizing on the current market for gold. But if i can do what I'm doing without a need for the bar itself, why can't others who need the bar desperately to craft their own ring? Why does it have to be easier?

It is also of my opinion that the current market rewards those who work hard for their gold, and it should remain as such. Currently the difficulty of farming a bar dissuades people who are perhaps not up to the task. To this I say: Good! Reward those who would endeavour to spend time and effort and pots running wilds endlessly for their gold. The Arcane ring is the best ring in the game at the moment, there SHOULD be blood and sweat poured into this. This is exactly what al proponents of the free-to-play aspect of the game have been fighting for for god knows how long, and we are finally seeing the fruits of that labor. Why make everything easier? Decreasing the difficulty of any farming task makes the loot cheaper and quickly diminishes the ability that farming zone to keep people engaged. You'll kill the game instead of letting people enjoy it more for a longer period of time.

You mentioned that you had a ring long before, and you merched your ring countless times before you took a break and returned to the game without a ring. May I mention that I took a few breaks from game as well, and despite the advice of many people I nevrr sold any of my gear before taking my breaks. I may have lost gold on potential merching, but at least I had the advantage of coming back to game without needing to hunt for gear again, and here I am as you have pointed out, still with a comfortable amount of gold stashed and not needing to craft a ring. We all live with the choices we make and the consequences of those choices.

Lastly, people forget what an extremely long expansion the last one was (lvl41 cap lasted well over a year). This expansion is expected to be as long, if not longer. The game needs to have its playability extended as long as possible, thus it is understandable that the Noble jewels take long to craft, that the upcoming lvl46 mythic gear should require a momentous and time-consuming effort to craft, that even the dated Rendtail Dragonstone ring should take some effort to obtain. Don't try to make everything easier and in the process kill the game because you want everything fast. Take your time and collect your resources till eventually you have what you want, as everyone else is working towards now. Nothing is owed to you, and you should behave as such too.

First of all I made it clear that I didnt ask for everything to be easier I asked for one thing thats huge difference, second thing, lets compare me with some mage fully geared as u, 5k hp 50% crit 1k dmg yeah this kind of people run always together and any map takes them 3 minutes? The point its way easier and faster.

Look safi hun I was one of you and never understood the complaints I always used to be rude and say go work hard like all of us and ul get there, but this is the first time I actually try walk in thier shoes. Its hard its really hard to have nothing and start from 0 while the game is sooo far away. Do it make a char and im sure u can easily level it up with plats and go farm and gear up lets see how that will go since u like hard farming and wanna be busy.

And if you wanna ask me about where did my gold go I made huge mistake and bought many gifts for some people who see me struggling now and have no attention to even offer a little help, not that it matters but anyway im almost starting from 0 and a little support won't hurt from u or sts or maybe friends

Its not a shame to ask for a little help every once a while I just cant understand why everyone came to my thread acting like im asking STS to make teeth drop for me only and no one else, but never mind im done

[Bigboyblue]

Hakoom,

I am in your same position. I quit last October and only came back around 1 month ago. I am not rich(around 3 mil in stash lol). It took me the whole month to get a bar and I will have a ring on Saturday. I bought the planar pendant recipe and am running arena for the essences. After that its time for Tombs and essences. Then I will once again farm a bar. It is going to take me another month and a half to have a darn pendant lol. I am wearing old mythic armor. I will buy the level 46 legendaries once they are cheap. The armor gained on the chest outweighs the lose of crit from mythics imo.

I too am feeling like time is running out. I can play for 2 hours every night and Ursoth is coming. That will consume all of my playing time once it is released. Will I have time to finish my gear? I doubt it but I will keep working away at it.

I know that there is a group of OP players that will only run with other OP players. This can pose a problem to some people that don't get fully geared before the next expansion/event comes. There are still a lot of people with OP gear that don't do this. There are quite a few of my guildmates that will run with me even though arena takes us 5 minutes instead of 3. The way I look at it if you are above running with me then I probably don't want to run with you anyhow.

[Alhuntrazeck]

Honestly, I'm afraid I don't see the issue.

It isn't that hard to earn the bar - take up a good 2 weeks but is very possible - and the greatest premise of the amu is that it is completely farm able.

From what I've experienced you don't seem too averse to grinding which is basically all you need to do for the amu; I've seen you flag numerous times (on my team I might add, while my team and I were fighting) and flagging is exponentially more boring than farming teeth, and we both know which is the bigger reward lol.

[Oursizes]

Koomy, like Alhunt said, I too have seen you flagging endlessly in pvp before the expansion. If you were able to donate so much time to that, im sure you can run tindirin for a couple weeks to earn dragonite bar. I personally have been running around 4-5 hours per day in tindirin for about 2 weeks and am now around 4 teeth away from my dragonite bar. This expansion finally gave the chance what many of us have been asking for. It can be frustrating doing 6 runs in elite wilds and ending up with 0 teeth but thats all a part of the grind. You never made a thread about lowering flags needed for pvp aps.

[Kakashis]

Go farm some locked, sell them all and buy your 5m bar!

[Edward Coug]

Ok I agree on that and yes I admitted it already I hate farming and im feeling over loaded I wanna farm this and that and lets be honest .. if you all didnt have arcane rings already you would have maybe agreed even a little bit with me, and yes I know you have the ring when it was worth 100m not 7m and I had before and sold it and re bought and sold and economy exploded somehow and things changed thats again not the topic.

I was only asking for making one thing easier since the demand is so high on bars and the teeth is so hard to farm, why you all coming here fighting this ? You have rings and pendant basically you dont need bars (not to mention your stash probably has 50m at least) but again im out of topic so yeah your not feeling the stress your geared and only farming for fun or maybe to get one or 2 extra items

But look at it in my point of view. Openned 400 ren lockeds got shard and toor only so basically got back the gold I lost in buying the lockeds im completely un geared need gun pendant ring new armor belt better runes and oh wait theres newer armor and helm coming .. so yes im pretty over loaded and sometimes I sit in maps thinking should I go farm teeth or lockeds or ancient essence or jewels or parchs eventually I do few runs of each and sometimes fall asleep during the run.

So again why you all fighting this ? Trust me theres much more stuff to keep me busy

Um. None of the players I've been farming teeth with have an arcane ring. I have 100k gold right now. That's it. You are making some sweeping assumptions. It took me four days to get a bar. My ring is now crafting. If you really hate farming, I suggest you take up STG's new game, Call of Champions. No farming, all PvP. Seems like that's more your thing.

But if you really want to get the bar without farming, just spend plat on ankhs and get it that way. Or wait to open locks during Ursoth.

So many shell-shocked plat spenders. Never thought I'd see the day.

[ilhanna]

I apologize if I came across as unsympathetic. I would like to stress that I am anything but unsympathetic. My agenda in my replies to this thread is to protect the farming environment for the majority of players who depend on grinding maps for loot to get ahead in the game.

Prior to this expansion the game was almost dead because the people who had everything they needed sat around and did nothing or were holed up in PvP (I'll admit I was one of them), whilst the people who still needed better gear were stuck farming for loot that had become next to worthless due to stagnation of the game and the horrible economy.

The fact is that with the game as it is now, with the many different options to farm and many different things to aim for, people are finding things to do and gold to earn. Where 150 teeth used to fetch only a few hundred Ks of gold, now you can earn upwards of 4mil gold with just one bar farmed. Vials have also gone from 10k to 300k++. Countless Ren'gol crates have been opened and their loot steadily declined in value, but their worth in the market is still preserved as people still continue to buy and open them.

I see my guildies who like Hakoom don't have the gear that I do, farm with diligence daily and get their daily loot and then announce happily to the guild a few days later saying they got their first Arcane pet etc... and I wish this game would continue to be like this for a while to come. Because it is benefiting the people in my guild who have worked since the start of the expansion to achieve their goals. Hakoom and Biigboyblue mentioned their the difficulties of essentially starting over from scratch, and the agony of having so many things to do but with seemingly so little time. I do understand this difficulty. My advice would be to set goals and priorities- what you want to achieve first, and then work towards that objective first before going for the next one and the one after that.

I'm sorry you haven't been able to get help with running maps because the people you ask discriminate you because of your gear. For me I try to focus on running with the people in my guild because as a GM that is my priority, to ensure my guildies get the support they need to gear up and achieve their aims. It's difficult I admit to find the right crowd of people with which to run together and achieve things together. I just hope the guilds out there can follow the example of guilds like Pheonix, who offer their weaker members a leg up by running with them and giving them a shot back in the game. Maybe it's not the game that needs to change, but the community at large.

Very well-said. As GM of a guild made up mostly of f2p players it's so rewarding to see members working so hard toward a goal they are confident they will be able to attain. Yes, they groan about imminent carpal tunnel syndrom, they moan about gummy dragons that drop no tooth, they huff and puff but they keep at it. With pendant recipe so cheap and arcane shard a lot more affordable, guildies are crafting planar amulet and arcane ring, and now exulting in things that they haven't done much before like elite, Arena, solo runs, breaking their record in timed runs, etc.

[Serancha]

Haha gummy dragons. Now I have a craving, thanks Ilhanna!

[Bmwmsix]

Ridiculous thread about a spoiled kid. You better play with Barbies.

[Pacmanx]

Lol farm that bar no need to complain , it just motivates me more to want an item that makes me money knowing it's demand and everyone is buying

[Luciano Lobo]

Just no. Dragonite bars and vial are real effort for f2p players who farm.

[Socrates]

Hakoom if your problem is that you can't find a pt then I will be glad to farm with you but I warn you about 2 things first it will take a lot of time and also I'm not fully geared soooo if you are interested pm me my ing is maoejal !!!

[Dimitrian]

Hakoom,

I am in your same position. I quit last October and only came back around 1 month ago. I am not rich(around 3 mil in stash lol). It took me the whole month to get a bar and I will have a ring on Saturday. I bought the planar pendant recipe and am running arena for the essences. After that its time for Tombs and essences. Then I will once again farm a bar. It is going to take me another month and a half to have a darn pendant lol. I am wearing old mythic armor. I will buy the level 46 legendaries once they are cheap. The armor gained on the chest outweighs the lose of crit from mythics imo.

I too am feeling like time is running out. I can play for 2 hours every night and Ursoth is coming. That will consume all of my playing time once it is released. Will I have time to finish my gear? I doubt it but I will keep working away at it.

I know that there is a group of OP players that will only run with other OP players. This can pose a problem to some people that don't get fully geared before the next expansion/event comes. There are still a lot of people with OP gear that don't do this. There are quite a few of my guildmates that will run with me even though arena takes us 5 minutes instead of 3. The way I look at it if you are above running with me then I probably don't want to run with you anyhow.


I don't wanna kill your dreams,but the new legendary gear (the Orcslaying set ) isn't tradeable :surprise:
Same for new mythics,i think.

[Bigboyblue]

I don't wanna kill your dreams,but the new legendary gear (the Orcslaying set ) isn't tradeable :surprise:
Same for new mythics,i think.

I was thinking about the scavanger/forager gear. I will farm for my mythics as well. As I said I'm quite poor lol.

[Titanium]

Brothers Grimm's book was shorter than Safiras comments. Big up for taking the time & patience. Worth reading.

All my respect.

[Titanium]

Bar isn't overpriced. People are looting too many shards and to craft a ring you need a bar. Shard price is lower because are not too many bars for crafting the ring. That's the only explanation. It's not part of any price manipulation.

One year ago bar costed 800k because were not many shards.

[BottleNexz]

zzzzzz roles reversed and the bar came out of buying plats, and popping lockd.... these mercher would have been listing this bar at 5x the amount it's listed for currently.

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[Oursizes]

zzzzzz roles reversed and the bar came out of buying plats, and popping lockd.... these mercher would have been listing this bar at 5x the amount it's listed for currently.

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And then the top rich players would team up and buy all of them and list them 5x even higher than they bought for lol. The cycle would never end

[hakoom7]

Bar isn't overpriced. People are looting too many shards and to craft a ring you need a bar. Shard price is lower because are not too many bars for crafting the ring. That's the only explanation. It's not part of any price manipulation.

One year ago bar costed 800k because were not many shards.

That makes sense, and I didnt mean there was price manipulation, I just meant teeth farm sucks lol basically all I wanted is teeth drop rate at least each elite run assure a tooth or maybe bar need bit less teeth.

[hakoom7]

I apologize if I came across as unsympathetic. I would like to stress that I am anything but unsympathetic. My agenda in my replies to this thread is to protect the farming environment for the majority of players who depend on grinding maps for loot to get ahead in the game.

Prior to this expansion the game was almost dead because the people who had everything they needed sat around and did nothing or were holed up in PvP (I'll admit I was one of them), whilst the people who still needed better gear were stuck farming for loot that had become next to worthless due to stagnation of the game and the horrible economy.

The fact is that with the game as it is now, with the many different options to farm and many different things to aim for, people are finding things to do and gold to earn. Where 150 teeth used to fetch only a few hundred Ks of gold, now you can earn upwards of 4mil gold with just one bar farmed. Vials have also gone from 10k to 300k++. Countless Ren'gol crates have been opened and their loot steadily declined in value, but their worth in the market is still preserved as people still continue to buy and open them.

I see my guildies who like Hakoom don't have the gear that I do, farm with diligence daily and get their daily loot and then announce happily to the guild a few days later saying they got their first Arcane pet etc... and I wish this game would continue to be like this for a while to come. Because it is benefiting the people in my guild who have worked since the start of the expansion to achieve their goals. Hakoom and Biigboyblue mentioned their the difficulties of essentially starting over from scratch, and the agony of having so many things to do but with seemingly so little time. I do understand this difficulty. My advice would be to set goals and priorities- what you want to achieve first, and then work towards that objective first before going for the next one and the one after that.

I'm sorry you haven't been able to get help with running maps because the people you ask discriminate you because of your gear. For me I try to focus on running with the people in my guild because as a GM that is my priority, to ensure my guildies get the support they need to gear up and achieve their aims. It's difficult I admit to find the right crowd of people with which to run together and achieve things together. I just hope the guilds out there can follow the example of guilds like Pheonix, who offer their weaker members a leg up by running with them and giving them a shot back in the game. Maybe it's not the game that needs to change, but the community at large.

Thanks and sorry too I was bit in a bad mood and reading this now it make sense, I mean yes id still love bars be bit easier to get like at least each elite run assure a tooth, but your right after all I was one of the people who got bored and turning to pvp wasnt a good option cause of all the drama, ended up quitting the game.

[Aziiii]

it's a game, it's farmable, not everything is about opening crates....

[BottleNexz]

a guaranteed drop from elites.... yes. A chance to drop for one pty member, only.

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