Order and Chaos is better. Here's Why.

[longsteak]

PL: For those that want a quick raid fix.

OaC: For those that like seing there damage numbers go crazy and unlock lots of skills and play for hours.

Now here's why I think OaC is better over all:

First off I have played PL for about 6 months. I love that game, but PL is gonna have to step up its game now.

1. Graphics: They are a lot better than PL and to top it off, I have had a smoother experience on OaC too, framerate is better.

2. Way more skills and talents. There is a scrolling "skill bar" and it holds 6 skills. Next to it is a bar with 10 skill slots that can be hidden with a tap of the skill bar (and easily opened with another tap)

Over 44 skills per class. 44!

3. Customization: With so many skills, people will specialize and we will see a lot more different types of players in game. 4 races, 4 classes, 2 specializations per class (you can choose to specialize in both!)

4. Payment:$6. Then only $1 a month BUT YOU GET THE FIRST 3 MONTHS FREE. Gameloft promises to update often (we will have to see about this one). Can buy a 6 month sub for $3 (50 cents per month!)

5. Quests: They are alot better on OaC. One of them had me escorting people and defending them from assassins! Another had me infiltrate a boat to kill a pirate leader. More variety here than PL and the quests feel like Adventures, unlike PL's fetch quests.

7. OPEN WORLD. THIS GAME IS HUGE! Took me about 10 minutes to walk from a map section to another and the whole time i was doing quests along the way-kept things interesting on the trek. (You dont have to do the quests-can just run to the other town, ect)

8. GUILDS!!!!! You can see who's online and have GUILD CHAT ROOMS

9. Chat: There's Global chat, Party Chat, Guild Chat, Local Chat. If you dont want one in your chat feed, you can block the others.

10. Open world PVP (dueling) and 5 player instances (from what I have seen so far, don't know if this is the max).
Just found out that there is a dedicated PVP arena!

11. Pets. <3 I currently have a cute little snow wolf following me around. Dont worry it does nothing in combat so there isnt a balance issue. BUT WHAT IT DOES DO IS ROLL ON ITS BACK AND SHAKE ITS PAWS IN THE AIR <3 Also, you can buy these pets with the in game currency :)

IN APP PURCHASES
You dont need anything besides the subscription. Gameloft only included the ability to buy gold with real money to (make money, duh) basically stop 3rd parties from farming gold and selling it to users (big issue on WoW). Very smart move on gameloft. And you dont need to buy any gold, you earn a good amount in game.

If you have any questions about the game feel free to ask!


PL is really going to have to step up there game now. Can't wait to see how this mmo battle turns out. Competition is a good thing! Forces people to do better jobs! :)

[Lesrider]

Ack, stop before you convince me to download! I'm trying to wait it out till I can get a better idea of Gameloft's maintenance of the game, etc.

[Zojak]

Ack, stop before you convince me to download! I'm trying to wait it out till I can get a better idea of Gameloft's maintenance of the game, etc.

Lol wait till I post my review :). It's going to be epic




Ps. Grats on 5k ;)

[superss]

4. Payment:$6. Then only $1 a month BUT YOU GET THE FIRST 3 MONTHS FREE. Gameloft promises to update often (we will have to see about this one).

that pretty much ruins it for me.

[longsteak]

You can also buy a 6 month subscription for $3. That's $.50 a month. When it comes to gameplay value/money, OaC wins in the long run.

[j46g629h]

how about dungeon? any thoughts

[Echelong]

Subscription is only part of the deal. They are selling gold and runs (no idea what they are for atm). I already purchased it but I am not going to say its better I just hope gameloft can keep their promise on updates unlike all their other games.

I like the skills tree though to bad no rouge as far as I saw only a hunter.

[longsteak]

There are castles and buildings you enter to kill bosses and do other things like collect materiels for crafting, ect. As for dungeons like in wow, I havent run into any that are as big.

Im only level 13. Max Level is 60 atm. So I still have a long way to go.

You dont need to buy anything else besides subscription to play this game. Runes are for vanity items like pets. As for buying gold, you can just earn gold in game by killing monsters and doing quests. The money system is the same thing as wow's

100 bronze coins= 1 Silver coin
100 Silver coins= 1 gold

[Moogerfooger]

Ack, stop before you convince me to download! I'm trying to wait it out till I can get a better idea of Gameloft's maintenance of the game, etc.

Gameloft has historically bad maintenance of their copied-from-other-game-studios games, their forums suck, and yeah...good luck with customer support (although that part is hearsay).

With that said, I may check it out. It may be worth the price of a couple of LesBurgers :D

[Lesrider]

You say pets are vanity items. That means they don't add any stats or offer any other benefit, like they do in DD? Bc if they're like DD pets, they're most definitely NOT vanity items.

[Lesrider]

Btw, should say... Thanks STS for always letting us discuss the competition on your forums :)



Ps. Grats on 5k ;)

Whoa... How did that happen?

[longsteak]

Pets do nothing but follow you around and look adorable. Panda cub anyone? :D
Or perhaps a cute wolf puppy :D

[ratava]

Thanks a lot for the thoughtful write-up Longsteak. Really good write-up btw.

I agree: Skill trees, open world, several chat channels and full-on quests are big improvements from PL.

G8 f-b but I wait for B* only. ;)

Btw: Barca 1(2 now)-0 Real... :D

[Samhayne]

It's apples to oranges, really.

OaC is Wifi only. PL plays on Edge just fine.

OaC is subscription/microtrans model with upfront cost. PL is free to play.

OaC is like almost 600 MB game. PL is a fraction of that size.

OaC has some hefty phone requirements. PL plays on tons of phones and older iOS devices.

OaC seems to me to be for those who like WoW but don't have a gaming computer and only a phone. You can't play it on the go, so why not just play WoW or your other favorite PC MMO?

Still, it looks to be a fun experience. In the short term, it's free advertisement for us, since anyone evaluating OaC is probably going to compare it to Pocket Legends. We wish Gameloft all the best with it.

[Lesrider]

Pets do nothing but follow you around and look adorable :)
Pets include: Panda Cub, Wolf Puppy and little skeleton creature thingy :)

Hope I'd have enough willpower not to buy one ;)
If they ever make a dragon or gryphon one, it will be harder to resist.

[FluffNStuff]

How many players to an 'instance'?

[FluffNStuff]

Oh, so it is not 3G??? Like you can only play it at home??? NVM.

[Arterra]

Als may be right, while OaC is definitely your miniature WoW, it requires a lot from people compared to PL. I think PL will stay the casual mmo that can be played anywhere, with bigger elements for those who want a little more.




Still, it looks to be a fun experience. In the short term, it's free advertisement for us, since anyone evaluating OaC is probably going to compare it to Pocket Legends. We wish Gameloft all the best with it.

love how you turn that around lol

[ratava]

It's apples to oranges, really.

OaC is Wifi only. PL plays on Edge just fine.

OaC is subscription/microtrans model with upfront cost. PL is free to play.

OaC is like almost 600 MB game. PL is a fraction of that size.

OaC has some hefty phone requirements. PL plays on tons of phones and older iOS devices.

OaC seems to me to be for those who like WoW but don't have a gaming computer and only a phone. You can't play it on the go, so why not just play WoW or your other favorite PC MMO?

Still, it looks to be a fun experience. In the short term, it's free advertisement for us, since anyone evaluating OaC is probably going to compare it to Pocket Legends. We wish Gameloft all the best with it.

Some features will naturally be better, but in terms of graphics, sounds, basic dungeon-crawling... I prefer for my Mobile PL much more. Plus I never liked wow. For my PC I will be playing

Guild Wars 2 - If you have never heard of it: Look it up! ;)

[longsteak]

It's apples to oranges, really.

OaC is Wifi only. PL plays on Edge just fine.

OaC is subscription/microtrans model with upfront cost. PL is free to play.

OaC is like almost 600 MB game. PL is a fraction of that size.

OaC has some hefty phone requirements. PL plays on tons of phones and older iOS devices.

OaC seems to me to be for those who like WoW but don't have a gaming computer and only a phone. You can't play it on the go, so why not just play WoW or your other favorite PC MMO?

Still, it looks to be a fun experience. In the short term, it's free advertisement for us, since anyone evaluating OaC is probably going to compare it to Pocket Legends. We wish Gameloft all the best with it.

As of now OaC runs great on jailbroken devices that force the device to use 3g. So it is 3g capable, If Gameloft is smart, they will update this and make it a normal feature.

PL is not free for the full experience. I have spent about $20 in the past 6 months on new areas and pvp arenas alone. OaC has PvP and and a lot more areas than PL at its launch! (OaC's launch i mean)

[Echelong]

It's apples to oranges, really.

OaC is Wifi only. PL plays on Edge just fine.

OaC is subscription/microtrans model with upfront cost. PL is free to play.

OaC is like almost 600 MB game. PL is a fraction of that size.

OaC has some hefty phone requirements. PL plays on tons of phones and older iOS devices.

OaC seems to me to be for those who like WoW but don't have a gaming computer and only a phone. You can't play it on the go, so why not just play WoW or your other favorite PC MMO?

Still, it looks to be a fun experience. In the short term, it's free advertisement for us, since anyone evaluating OaC is probably going to compare it to Pocket Legends. We wish Gameloft all the best with it.


Thats true and one thing they sure don't have is customer support like yours. Graphics aren't everything and if the replay isn't as good as PL it will fail or at least only attract a small segment of hardcore iOS players while PL is fun for casual as well as hardcore gamers.


As of now OaC runs great on jailbroken devices that force the device to use 3g. So it is 3g capable, If Gameloft is smart, they will update this and make it a normal feature.

PL is not free for the full experience. I have spent about $20 in the past 6 months on new areas and pvp arenas alone. OaC has PvP and and a lot more areas than PL at its launch! (OaC's launch i mean)

PL is now free unless you want to get the elite campaigns and vanity items, otherwise its free. I have spent $80 on PL and I don't regret it one bit I still have plat left for B*.

[Zojak]

My biggest thing will be customer service. And how they update.

PL has fabulous CS. And updates are great. I'll probably split my time between the 2 games untill Midgard beta starts. And then B*

Then it will likely be B* and PL. But who knows ? ;)

[Zojak]

Also with the free/pay thing. I don't care if it's free or pay 2 play. Whichever game is better is the one ill play.

[Arterra]

My biggest thing will be customer service. And how they update.

PL has fabulous CS. And updates are great. I'll probably split my time between the 2 games untill Midgard beta starts. And then B*

Then it will likely be B* and PL. But who knows ? ;)

i wonder, will midgard or B* come first? it will probably make me decide my ultimate allegiance lol

[longsteak]

Also with the free/pay thing. I don't care if it's free or pay 2 play. Whichever game is better is the one ill play.

THIS. I hope pocket legends steps up its game from here on out or im afraid it will lose a lot of its players.

[Varking]

I just don't think we declare a one day old Gameloft MMO better than Pocket Legends. Lets see how Gameloft handles everything in a few months. Its like the guy in the other thread claiming World of Midgard will be the best and its still 3 to 4 months from a beta.

[Zojak]

Same here art. Midgard is going into beta in about 6 weeks. And I'm signed up :). Hopefully some of us can see a b* beta Or even release soon.

[longsteak]

Thats true and one thing they sure don't have is customer support like yours. Graphics aren't everything and if the replay isn't as good as PL it will fail or at least only attract a small segment of hardcore iOS players while PL is fun for casual as well as hardcore gamers.



PL is now free unless you want to get the elite campaigns and vanity items, otherwise its free. I have spent $80 on PL and I don't regret it one bit I still have plat left for B*.

PL dungeons are only free till may 4th. correct me if im wrong.

if you have no regrets on spending so much, then you wont be one of those people complaining that OaC costs too much (its actually really cheap). :)

[longsteak]

I just don't think we declare a one day old Gameloft MMO better than Pocket Legends. Lets see how Gameloft handles everything in a few months. Its like the guy in the other thread claiming World of Midgard will be the best and its still 3 to 4 months from a beta.

This game is out, and it's so well developed from what I have seen so far that I know as of now OaC has more going for it than PL.
Also, there's a difference between a beta and a 1 day old game.

[Zojak]

I just don't think we declare a one day old Gameloft MMO better than Pocket Legends. Lets see how Gameloft handles everything in a few months. Its like the guy in the other thread claiming World of Midgard will be the best and its still 3 to 4 months from a beta.



This. Thats why I'll be giving it an honest play for a few weeks and posting/updating a review thread as I go

[Lesrider]

Oh, so it is not 3G??? Like you can only play it at home??? NVM.

Or at work or friend's house...

Honestly, I never played PL much on 3G on the go, bc it always lagged too much and I felt too guilty having my friends pick up the slack. If I'm away from wifi, I do 3G stuff on my phone or play offline games. I still prefer my iPhone to pc games (not glued to one spot, hunched over a keyboard), and if there are any mmos I'm going to spend money on, they'll be mobile games.

[Lesrider]

Same here art. Midgard is going into beta in about 6 weeks. And I'm signed up :). Hopefully some of us can see a b* beta Or even release soon.

How did you sign up for that? I don't suppose they're still taking people?

[Varking]

Its right on their home page;
http://www.worldofmidgard.com/

[Lesrider]

Its right on their home page;
http://www.worldofmidgard.com/

Oh cool, thanks!

[Sigkill]

I think OAC is just WOW on a phone, I agree with Samhayne on the fact that PL works fine on edge as on my T-mobile IPhone4 I can play PL whenever I want. I might try OAC for a while but it isn't a replacement for PL, I think PL is very unique

[JaytB]

Uhmmm... I might give it a shot. Not too fond about gameloft from my past experience though...

[noobmigo]

One Q regarding the skill bar that holds the 10 skills. Can you directly use skills from that skill bar, or just from the scrolling skill bar? Because Me no Likely Scrolling

[RedRyder]

The fact that it's wifi only killed it for me.. And there's no way I hell that I'm JB'ng my iPhone. My iPod I'll Risk but I don't use it anymore. I did buy the game, but I've yet to go beyond making a character since I had to run out to campus after the DL. Customer service is gonna be a huge thing, and I don't think any game can possibly compare to PL's service...

We'll just have to wait and see. Over the year I've been playing PL I've spent enough on plat to buy me an 8gig 4G touch on it's release date haha. If a games good then I'll spend. 6.99 plus sub. Was a bad idea. I'd have no problem if the game was free with like a week trial and then charge a subscription fee. I love anything truly open world with quests so I do look forward to it. Any mounts planned?

Oh and in regards to gamelofts cust. Service it's terrible from past experience. I had a mixup with their sacred odyssey game and They didn't even lift a finger. I had to get my help from apple themselves for reimbursement -_-.

[Zojak]

It's 3 months free once you get it >< and it sounds like you've already bought it, so why not giver a shot? :)

[noobmigo]

Anyone notice that Lone is a mod? on the forums for the game of WoM? :o

[Varking]

Anyone notice that Lone is a mod? on the forums for the game of WoM? :o

SilverDragon is a regular forum poster on most other sites and I believe Balonia came from here as well. Wonder what the requirements are?

[noobmigo]

Over on the WoM forums watching Klemz btray PL.

[Varking]

Over on the WoM forums watching Klemz btray PL.
Who was he here? He must of came around while I was busy with real life and away from these forums. Wasn't a name I recognized.

[noobmigo]

Who was he here? He must of came around while I was busy with real life and away from these forums. Wasn't a name I recognized.

He was plain ol' klemens.

[Varking]

I guess thats what I get for taking a few months off.

[Snakespeare]

Are you allowed to swear and act like a jerk in O&C?

[icantgetkills]

why does kleman hate PL lol im seeing his posts....

[icantgetkills]

Yea im klemen actually and im banned thats why im betraying it

so because of your bad actions your betraying a good community? you sir have abosutely NO friends

[Conradin]

I NEVER accted bad.


Lol - thats debateable.

[Corpser]

lol conradin also why is everyone coming into pl forums and trying to take our players away its anoying and should be bannable

[giayuan]

It's apples to oranges, really.

OaC is Wifi only. PL plays on Edge just fine.

OaC is subscription/microtrans model with upfront cost. PL is free to play.

OaC is like almost 600 MB game. PL is a fraction of that size.

OaC has some hefty phone requirements. PL plays on tons of phones and older iOS devices.

OaC seems to me to be for those who like WoW but don't have a gaming computer and only a phone. You can't play it on the go, so why not just play WoW or your other favorite PC MMO?

Still, it looks to be a fun experience. In the short term, it's free advertisement for us, since anyone evaluating OaC is probably going to compare it to Pocket Legends. We wish Gameloft all the best with it.

Yup. I despise monthly/annual payments. And upfront cost is 7 bucks .__. erh... was gonna download too.. Wow at price.

[StompArtist]

It's apples to oranges, really.

OaC is Wifi only. PL plays on Edge just fine.

OaC is subscription/microtrans model with upfront cost. PL is free to play.

OaC is like almost 600 MB game. PL is a fraction of that size.

OaC has some hefty phone requirements. PL plays on tons of phones and older iOS devices.

OaC seems to me to be for those who like WoW but don't have a gaming computer and only a phone. You can't play it on the go, so why not just play WoW or your other favorite PC MMO?

Still, it looks to be a fun experience. In the short term, it's free advertisement for us, since anyone evaluating OaC is probably going to compare it to Pocket Legends. We wish Gameloft all the best with it.

Can't really compare. The real test lies within revenue. IMO.

[Darkchylde]

I got it havnt played yet add me Darkchylde he he i got lucky an got to transfer my name to this

[Zojak]

^^ drop your name into Red's thread and he'll add you to the list :D

[Lesrider]

Yup. I despise monthly/annual payments. And upfront cost is 7 bucks .__. erh... was gonna download too.. Wow at price.

I thought I would, too.
Then I thought about it again -- I spent 15-20 bucks on PL just for the maps. I got some extras only bc of Tapjoy.
A year of O&C would cost me about $11.50, including the download price. So as long as it's a quality game and they maintain it well, I think it'd be worth the money.

[Conradin]

I thought I would, too.
Then I thought about it again -- I spent 15-20 bucks on PL just for the maps. I got some extras only bc of Tapjoy.
A year of O&C would cost me about $11.50, including the download price. So as long as it's a quality game and they maintain it well, I think it'd be worth the money.

Its gameloft man -.-

[Junside]

Anyone notice that Lone is a mod? on the forums for the game of WoM? :o

Doesn't look like an official forum. Only 6 members online right now? Probably a fan forum. Regardless, it's not difficult to become a mod on such especially if it's run by players and not official staff.

Anyway, O&C just irritates me with it looking like WoW. Like a Chinatown knockoff. They will probably run into some legal issues. If Apple and Android can sue each other over functionality features, I don't see why not.

PL is like family to me. That game might turn out to be huge with too many players. I wouldn't get used to it easily. Is it noob friendly? I think we'll see more elitist on O&C than on PL. Cocky elitists ruin the game experience.

[Varking]

Doesn't look like an official forum. Only 6 members online right now? Probably a fan forum. Regardless, it's not difficult to become a mod on such especially if it's run by players and not official staff.

Anyway, O&C just irritates me with it looking like WoW. Like a Chinatown knockoff. They will probably run into some legal issues. If Apple and Android can sue each other over functionality features, I don't see why not.

PL is like family to me. That game might turn out to be huge with too many players. I wouldn't get used to it easily. Is it noob friendly? I think we'll see more elitist on O&C than on PL. Cocky elitists ruin the game experience.

Nope, its definitely their official forum haha.

[longsteak]

One Q regarding the skill bar that holds the 10 skills. Can you directly use skills from that skill bar, or just from the scrolling skill bar? Because Me no Likely Scrolling

you can click on them and BAM they work :)

you can also place potions (and other items) in there too

[Lesrider]

I couldnt find Lone in the user list...

[Junside]

I couldnt find Lone in the user list...

http://worldofmidgard.com/forum/

it lists their moderators next to subforums

[Lesrider]

Wow both Balonia and Lone got to be mods there?

[longsteak]

Yup. I despise monthly/annual payments. And upfront cost is 7 bucks .__. erh... was gonna download too.. Wow at price.
Its $7! not a billion! the money is worth it, im sure youve spent more then $7 on PL $7 is all you need for 3 months. thats a lot of playing time.

[longsteak]

Doesn't look like an official forum. Only 6 members online right now? Probably a fan forum. Regardless, it's not difficult to become a mod on such especially if it's run by players and not official staff.

Anyway, O&C just irritates me with it looking like WoW. Like a Chinatown knockoff. They will probably run into some legal issues. If Apple and Android can sue each other over functionality features, I don't see why not.

PL is like family to me. That game might turn out to be huge with too many players. I wouldn't get used to it easily. Is it noob friendly? I think we'll see more elitist on O&C than on PL. Cocky elitists ruin the game experience.

Yes its noob friendly. The first 10 levels serve as a sort of tutorial. And there is a hint manual if youve forgotten things.

as for the elitists, this game is so big that you might not run into too many, people are really nice in game :) I was having trouble killing a mob so i walked up to someone and asked for help and they brought their friends along and we blew anything that came against us out of the water. It was an amazing experience.

Also, this game is HARD. its vital that you use all your skills and plan ahead. It's got some amazing strategy elements and you cant just spam the attack button.

[Junside]

It's not out for Android yet last time I read so until I try it, that's half my review(preview).

[Lesrider]

Yes its noob friendly. The first 10 levels serve as a sort of tutorial. And there is a hint manual if youve forgotten things.

as for the elitists, this game is so big that you might not run into too many, people are really nice in game :) I was having trouble killing a mob so i walked up to someone and asked for help and they brought their friends along and we blew anything that came against us out of the water. It was an amazing experience.

Also, this game is HARD. its vital that you use all your skills and plan ahead. It's got some amazing strategy elements and you cant just spam the attack button.

Sounds like they're sticking to their pattern with SO, HoS, etc (and NOT DH). I like hearing there's a challenge -- hopefully not enough of one to make you give up in frustration, though?

[longsteak]

Sounds like they're sticking to their pattern with SO, HoS, etc (and NOT DH). I like hearing there's a challenge -- hopefully not enough of one to make you give up in frustration, though?

well heres the thing, you can solo, but the game is way easier with people and funner too. Its really easy making friends too because theres usually like 20 people near you or in a town nearby. You just need to ask to join up with people :)

and solo is challenging. I found myself dying a lot at a boss, but the spawn point was near so i didnt mind. Every time I dies i tried something different with my skills :)

[Junside]

Kinda risky not releasing for Android. Here's why I think so.

http://www.mobile-marketing-blog.net/2011/04/android-more-popular-than-iphone-in-uk.html

There's a global marketing evaluation by Nielson but the news page won't load. Basically saying Android is becoming more popular than iPhone.

[Lesrider]

Kinda risky not releasing for Android. Here's why I think so.

http://www.mobile-marketing-blog.net/2011/04/android-more-popular-than-iphone-in-uk.html

There's a global marketing evaluation by Nielson but the news page won't load. Basically saying Android is becoming more popular than iPhone.

According to the DD mods, Android has a very high rate of piracy. Maybe that's why?
For in-app purchases it may be different, so maybe that's why STS is making more off android.
I dunno, just speculating.

[Junside]

According to the DD mods, Android has a very high rate of piracy. Maybe that's why?
For in-app purchases it may be different, so maybe that's why STS is making more off android.
I dunno, just speculating.

True... I can pirate so many games. Including DD. But still, it's a monthly subscription, so even if I downloaded it for free, I probably wouldn't be able to play. Unless there's free servers like some people did with WoW. (I don't play but my friend claimed he was playing WoW for free.)

[Lesrider]

True... I can pirate so many games. Including DD. But still, it's a monthly subscription, so even if I downloaded it for free, I probably wouldn't be able to play. Unless there's free servers like some people did with WoW. (I don't play but my friend claimed he was playing WoW for free.)

Good point. So I dunno. Might just be habit. Maybe if it's successful on iDevices, they'll port it to Android (like PL did)?

[Junside]

Might take some time. Regardless, I'm not looking forward to playing this. Doesn't appeal to me. I want B*!

[tifarah]

I personally wouldn't mind a monthly subscription module, I actually like that more than what we play currently. The reason being, you actually have to earn your stuff, in PL as long as you have real life money you can buy anything you want.

[Varking]

The guys at DD said that over 75% of the Android users pirated the game. I find that hard to believe. As was stated above they could do this;

1) Make the game free to download on Android.
2) Make it so immediately upon getting passed all the splash screens that you must create an account and verify it via email.
3) Once your account is verified, the only option you can click would be the "item-mall".
4) The only options in the item-mall you should have the options to purchase are the subscriptions.
5) Once the subscription is purchased you now have access to everything like all the iOS users.
6) ??
7) Profit

Under this process, there can be no pirating.

[superglut2]

Tested it, ill deff play less pl at home now. When im at doctor or in car / train i still play pl.

[Ellyidol]

I'll try and give the game another chance, since some players here will make trying it again worthwhile. Mind if I ask a few questions though, caught the thread too long to catch up.

Any combat tips? I'm still finding it difficult to use skills appropriately because of the swipe slots. Any tips there?

Any chat commands? I was chatting to Red earlier and had to keep opening and closing the chatbox to reply.

Anyone know if the IAP for gold/runes are totally OP?

Thanks :)

[Zojak]

Apart from the 6 gold I bought to start the guild. It's really not worth while to pay for the gold. You'll earn it fast enough as you level anyways. Runes however im nOt too sure about yet.

Elly. Try mapping your skills to the side hotkeys. If you want I imagine you could completely ignore the wheel.

[Ellyidol]

The pop out side bar? The one that looks like shelves? I'll try that. They shouldnt make it interrupt the entire combat though, I couldn't move or such when I open the tab.

[Zojak]

Hmm. Yeah I was goina try to use it for extra skills when I got to the time where I had more than the wheel could take I didn't know it interrupted combat though hmm

[shmoo]

I'll try out the game once I get back home. I've been waiting for a WoW clone on mobile device. :)

I've always been a fan of subscription-based games as long as they give quality maintenance and updates, like Blizzard with WoW and StarCraft 2 (still waiting on Diablo 3).

[Junside]

The guys at DD said that over 75% of the Android users pirated the game. I find that hard to believe. As was stated above they could do this;

1) Make the game free to download on Android.
2) Make it so immediately upon getting passed all the splash screens that you must create an account and verify it via email.
3) Once your account is verified, the only option you can click would be the "item-mall".
4) The only options in the item-mall you should have the options to purchase are the subscriptions.
5) Once the subscription is purchased you now have access to everything like all the iOS users.
6) ??
7) Profit

Under this process, there can be no pirating.

Are you an official critic for video games?

[j46g629h]

Yes, I use side hotkeys when about to combat

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/6376/img0117f.png

[Junside]

I swear, if someone takes my username, I'll annihilate them off the face of this planet. -_- It happened before. Someone tried to pose as me on this social site and reap my popularity.

[Ellyidol]

That'd make sense for buffs and in between battle skills. More concerned of during battle though..

[Lesrider]

I better go to bed before I convince myself to download it.

[shmoo]

Does it lag a lot? I saw some gameplay youtube videos and it seems to lag a lot. XD

[Darkchylde]

ok if you hav a jailbroken device then use 3g unrestrictor to play without wifi

[Tortimer]

Does it lag a lot? I saw some gameplay youtube videos and it seems to lag a lot. XD

I have been playing off and on all day and it hasn't had any lag. Runs very smooth on my iphone 4.

[Zeus]

Thelonearcher is a mod in midgard. Lol. :D

[Christina]

I don think it is good to discuss or compare other games with Pl.. U are on PL forum guys.. Its like comin to ur house and tell u that ur house is not nicer den my house.. Devs are tryin hard to make this game works..

[Zeus]

I don think it is good to discuss or compare other games with Pl.. U are on PL forum guys.. Its like comin to ur house and tell u that ur house is not nicer den my house.. Devs are tryin hard to make this game works..

Exactly, that is why you will never see me make a thread advertising another game. I'm a true PLer, probably will never change. Guess PL has its own fan boys, like apple. :D

[Ellyidol]

Exactly, that is why you will never see me make a thread advertising another game. I'm a true PLer, probably will never change. Guess PL has its own fan boys, like apple. :D

Nah, I'm definitely with you here.

I tried it again for another 2 hours, things got better, but just not worth the time I could have for PL instead. I'll wait for B*.

[Tiliana]

I tried it as well, and it just feels cluttered. Pocket Legends has a very nice UI which makes it very comfortable to play. I believe I just wasted some money this evening.

[Darkchylde]

i jus signed on at work without wi fi :) i used 3g unrestrictor but you must be jailbroke r rooted this game loooks like the bomb only thing is when u sign what are the worlds for there is like 4 r 5 of em im confused somewhat

[shmoo]

i jus signed on at work without wi fi :) i used 3g unrestrictor but you must be jailbroke r rooted this game loooks like the bomb only thing is when u sign what are the worlds for there is like 4 r 5 of em im confused somewhat

I would think they are like servers, so you get to choose which server you would want to connect. Check out some videos in youtube, I saw in one of those vids that you can connect to different servers which are at different locations but might affect your ping.


I have been playing off and on all day and it hasn't had any lag. Runs very smooth on my iphone 4.
Ah I see, thanks for the info! :)


I don think it is good to discuss or compare other games with Pl.. U are on PL forum guys.. Its like comin to ur house and tell u that ur house is not nicer den my house.. Devs are tryin hard to make this game works..
Hi Christina! I think as long as the discussion is constructive and there isn't a clear intent of pirating players to and from the another game, I think it is ok to discuss.
As Samhayne as pointed out, they have differences.

It's apples to oranges, really.

OaC is Wifi only. PL plays on Edge just fine.

OaC is subscription/microtrans model with upfront cost. PL is free to play.

OaC is like almost 600 MB game. PL is a fraction of that size.

OaC has some hefty phone requirements. PL plays on tons of phones and older iOS devices.

OaC seems to me to be for those who like WoW but don't have a gaming computer and only a phone. You can't play it on the go, so why not just play WoW or your other favorite PC MMO?

Still, it looks to be a fun experience. In the short term, it's free advertisement for us, since anyone evaluating OaC is probably going to compare it to Pocket Legends. We wish Gameloft all the best with it.

And possibly they have very different playstyles. I bought OaC just to test it out, its only 7$, easy to recover, just cut down on *nomnomz* (food, maybe skip a lunch or two heheehe!) and you get to play for 3 months. My point is just as long as our discussion is healthy. (Although the thread title maybe a bit overboard :P)

[longsteak]

Exactly, that is why you will never see me make a thread advertising another game. I'm a true PLer, probably will never change. Guess PL has its own fan boys, like apple. :D

I posted this so the PL devs could see how much of a threat OaC really is. I wanted them to see that they need to make there game better if they really want to compete. Consider this a constructive slap to the face :P

[RedRyder]

Exactly, that is why you will never see me make a thread advertising another game. I'm a true PLer, probably will never change. Guess PL has its own fan boys, like apple. :D

Just so happens that I also made a thread. Thankss

[Darkchylde]

red did you see what i posted bout bein jailbroke

[Darkchylde]

i was playin at work without wi fi i tricked it

[Necrobane]

Did you keep the experience gained ect when you logged on?

[JaytB]

Uhm, I decided to wait until the game either gets updated or dies. Having played lot's of Gameloft games, I feel that it will get neglected as soon as there aren't too many players online. Their customer support is totally unresponsive, the forum is almost a dead space and generally, their update history has been abysmal at best. I want to be sure before I invest time and money in yet another game :)

[Necrobane]

Hey, When I get it tonight, I'll tell you :) I also have noticed that they never touch their games once released so if I see any problems I'll be sure to point them out ;)

[Lesrider]

Uhm, I decided to wait until the game either gets updated or dies. Having played lot's of Gameloft games, I feel that it will get neglected as soon as there aren't too many players online. Their customer support is totally unresponsive, the forum is almost a dead space and generally, their update history has been abysmal at best. I want to be sure before I invest time and money in yet another game :)

Maybe they'll abandon, maybe they won't.
But all I know is that I defeated Sacred Odyssey with zero bugs/glitches. The one time I thought I hit a bug, it turned out to be a game feature -- someone told me how to get past it. So I'm more willing to trust them these days. Their games, IMO, have been getting better and better. If they release a polished game for 7 bucks and a few months later it tanks, it didn't cost any more than one of their other non-subscription games.

As for buying in-game currency with real cash? I will likely never do that anyway, but I do think people would be a bit crazy to buy any of that stuff before waiting to see how well the game lasts. I mean, I was dumbfounded at the number of posts on the DD forum saying people didn't get the mana they paid for -- or that it vanished! That's something i would have researched before throwing money at them. So let Gameloft work out any kinks and prove themselves before you invest any EXTRA money in the game. But otherwise, I'm thinking of it basically as a Gameloft game I can play with others. Sounds good to me!

(Keep in mind, I don't like first-person shooters, so I can't comment on half of Gameloft's games ;) but I love their fantasy games.)

[Ellyidol]

I got to level 9, it's definitely much slower than PL. It's really a sit down type of game :)

I'm so used to the gameplay of PL when mobs can be done through independent games, here I have to adjust to respawn times and compete with other players to get the mobs. Lol!

I find the quests harder too, unlike in WoW they particularly tell you the direction (NE, NW, SE, SW). Although you can select a quest to "guide" you and point you to the way, I can't really plan the order especially since I won't know where the spots for the quests are.

They should still improve UI heaps though :p

[Necrobane]

Thanks Elly, What are the classes like? Also how does it play with 400ish latency? Plus is tanking possible to do properly? (Keeping constant agro cc ect) Sorry just waiting for mum to come home cos im out of itunes money to buy it :P

[Ellyidol]

Thanks Elly, What are the classes like? Also how does it play with 400ish latency? Plus is tanking possible to do properly? (Keeping constant agro cc ect) Sorry just waiting for mum to come home cos im out of itunes money to buy it :P

From my understanding, the classic Warrior, Ranger, Mage, and there's a priest/monk.

I'm not sure on how much the actual latency is, since it just shows as a green/orange circle :p

Tanking should be possible, I'm not entirely sure yet though, especially on mob tanking. I get some small bugs still, like mobs, players, and anything interactive "lags" behind. You target them then they disappear.

[Necrobane]

Sounds awesome, dl right now :D SO pumped. Does the priest have an offensive spec? Plus how is the PvP done? Also Max Level?

[Ellyidol]

Sounds awesome, dl right now :D SO pumped. Does the priest have an offensive spec? Plus how is the PvP done? Also Max Level?

No idea on priests, only made and have stuck with Warrior :p

Not my kinda game to get stuck on, so will just visit it once in awhile. PL really just spoiled me. Everything so easy and quick for an MMO. :p

I duelled with Mooger earlier (I WON! HA! :p) and the PvP was just like fighting a mob, except your up against a player. Exactly like WoW.

Max is 60 if I'm not mistaken. HUGE!

[Lesrider]

Btw, is it a game that's easy to get into and just roam around, exploring and killing things? Or do you have trouble early on and feel the need to spend real cash on gold?
Bc I read a couple of reviews that said there's not enough inventory space, etc, and they had to buy gold. Are you guys finding it easy enough to just play the game and not feel pressured into buying anything extra?

[Ellyidol]

Btw, is it a game that's easy to get into and just roam around, exploring and killing things? Or do you have trouble early on and feel the need to spend real cash on gold?
Bc I read a couple of reviews that said there's not enough inventory space, etc, and they had to buy gold. Are you guys finding it easy enough to just play the game and not feel pressured into buying anything extra?

I agree on the inventory space. I got one piece of equipment drop, about 2 potions and 1 food type, the rest were misc. drops from mobs for quests/selling and I was full. The cost wasn't that much, 1gold for 6 slots I think, but for a low level it's definitely low. It wouldn't really force you to buy gold, but doing so would just save so much time. Since maps are huge, walking back and forth to empty bags would just be time consuming.

Technically, you can just log on and kill stuff, but I was in an area where the mobs around me were really just for quests, which I was following. From my understanding, the deeper you get into the game (higher level), the further you need to go to get to mobs you want to level up with or farm.

There's this one IAP called "Runes" that I don't really get.

They offer skill (talents) resets too, the one I saw was 10g for 1 reset. If it's anything like WoW, it doubles every extra time you do it.

I had roughly 40 silver at level 10, just following quests.

[Lesrider]

Thanks, Elly. And how much silver equals 1 gold?

Also, Gameloft usually allows your character to walk or run. I hope they let you run here as well? In the absence of mounts and what looks like a huge world to explore (looks a lot like SO to me -- very nice!), walking would feel a bit torturous if there's no way to speed up a bit. (Sorry, STS, but the PL walking pace always feels so slooooow.)

[Ellyidol]

Thanks, Elly. And how much silver equals 1 gold?

Also, Gameloft usually allows your character to walk or run. I hope they let you run here as well? In the absence of mounts and what looks like a huge world to explore (looks a lot like SO to me -- very nice!), walking would feel a bit torturous if there's no way to speed up a bit. (Sorry, STS, but the PL walking pace always feels so slooooow.)

No prob :)

The cash is divided to 3, bronze - silver - gold. 100 Bronze for 1 Silver, 100 Silver for 1 Gold.

There's an auto-run feature in the game. When you move towards one direction for a few seconds, an arrow forward button pops up, when you click it your character automatically runs forward until you move your joystick again, then you can just swipe around to change direction - it's like cruise mode :p

If the game is as big as WoW, there should definitely be mounts later on.

[Lesrider]

No prob :)

The cash is divided to 3, bronze - silver - gold. 100 Bronze for 1 Silver, 100 Silver for 1 Gold.

There's an auto-run feature in the game. When you move towards one direction for a few seconds, an arrow forward button pops up, when you click it your character automatically runs forward until you move your joystick again, then you can just swipe around to change direction - it's like cruise mode :p

If the game is as big as WoW, there should definitely be mounts later on.

Dang, sounds like it might be hard to get that 6 gold!

Hmm the running sounds a lot like SO's boost while you're riding your horse -- it speeds you up for a few seconds

Omg I really hope they do add mounts someday. Gameloft has proven many times that they can do an awesome job with mounts. Just some examples -- the six-legged horse/flying creature in Avatar (I forgot the names for them), Pegasus, Minotaurs and Bulls in HoS2, and of course SO's horse. They did a great job with all of those, and I eagerly await the day they add dragon mounts to a game. This sounds like the perfect one for that :)

[Ellyidol]

Dang, sounds like it might be hard to get that 6 gold!

Hmm the running sounds a lot like SO's boost while you're riding your horse -- it speeds you up for a few seconds

Omg I really hope they do add mounts someday. Gameloft has proven many times that they can do an awesome job with mounts. Just some examples -- the six-legged horse/flying creature in Avatar (I forgot the names for them), Pegasus, Minotaurs and Bulls in HoS2, and of course SO's horse. They did a great job with all of those, and I eagerly await the day they add dragon mounts to a game. This sounds like the perfect one for that :)

Early on it might be difficult to save enough gold, especially since to level-up your skills, you need to have the required level, then buy the spellbooks off NPCs to learn them.

But towards the later part of the game, 1gold should be easier to get, especially since mobs would be dropping coins by the silvers, maybe by the golds even at end game :)

I do hope too! It might appeal to me more later on, but that should definitely appeal to you :p I remember your mount addiction. Lol

[Lesrider]

Early on it might be difficult to save enough gold, especially since to level-up your skills, you need to have the required level, then buy the spellbooks off NPCs to learn them.

But towards the later part of the game, 1gold should be easier to get, especially since mobs would be dropping coins by the silvers, maybe by the golds even at end game :)

I do hope too! It might appeal to me more later on, but that should definitely appeal to you :p I remember your mount addiction. Lol

Ok, good to know. A bit put off at having to scrape together gold early on just to progress, but I don't mind grinding a bit as long as it doesn't become a life-long struggle (ie. Spend countless hours farming for a piece of gold vs. Buying it with cash.)

Lol I do love mounts (I bought a PC game years ago called I think Drakan -- let you ride a dragon. I'm by no means a serious gamer, so I had some trouble with the game and gave up early. But I had fun on the separate mode that just let you free fly your dragon lol). I spent a good amount of time in Avatar and SO just riding my horses. Gameloft does it so well. The Avatar horse would even rear up on its back legs if you stop short. Just done so beautifully (too bad you can never access that horse again once you get past that level :( ). I trust them completely to do an awesome job if they add mounts here.

[ratava]

Les, if I were you I would hang on (save your cash) for B* in a month or so. I'm biased I admit as I never liked wow-ite mmos so up to you and it does sound cool game t'is true.

Drakan was an awesome game! I did not play but I researched it and the Dragon riding is so well done in that game. I like avatar on the iOS a lot too. :)

[RedRyder]

Got to lv 7. It's like a real competition lol cause players get so greedy with mobs. I have to use my aoe spells and hope I did the most damage so I can take the loot. They need to expand the spawns so we don't have to fight for them. I love questing especially since there are actually good rewards and XP!

[Lesrider]

Les, if I were you I would hang on (save your cash) for B* in a month or so. I'm biased I admit as I never liked wow-ite mmos so up to you and it does sound cool game t'is true.

Drakan was an awesome game! I did not play but I researched it and the Dragon riding is so well done in that game. I like avatar on the iOS a lot too. :)

I'm a bit of a sucker for pretty graphics, so O&C right now is looking a lot better to me than B*. Not gonna get into that any deeper, bc I don't want to say much about B* before we know more details.


Got to lv 7. It's like a real competition lol cause players get so greedy with mobs. I have to use my aoe spells and hope I did the most damage so I can take the loot. They need to expand the spawns so we don't have to fight for them. I love questing especially since there are actually good rewards and XP!

So does that mean you only get xp/loot if you deal the most damage to an enemy?

This all sounds like something I'll love, but will suck me in the way a pc game does -- and there's a reason I don't play pc games anymore! Ahhhh!!!

[Necrobane]

Just got it...wow...AMAZING game. I always thought the cast bars would lag heaps but they're instant.....WOW

[RedRyder]

Yea les and it's better that way really, the one that put the most work into the kill should get the reward for it, and that way no one can just come in and steal your loot in the last minute. Something I like to do is observe fights and assist after they got the mobs health below half so they finish faster :p mages do a lot of damage

I have a Mage with a dagger for the high dps. The staffs were so slow and they were pretty much like melee weapons.

[Lesrider]

Yea les and it's better that way really, the one that put the most work into the kill should get the reward for it, and that way no one can just come in and steal your loot in the last minute. Something I like to do is observe fights and assist after they got the mobs health below half so they finish faster :p mages do a lot of damage

I have a Mage with a dagger for the high dps. The staffs were so slow and they were pretty much like melee weapons.

But how does co-op work? What if several people are working hard to take down the same enemy? Or a healer? How does the xp/loot factor in then? Does it still only go to one person?

[RedRyder]

But how does co-op work? What if several people are working hard to take down the same enemy? Or a healer? How does the xp/loot factor in then? Does it still only go to one person?

Split evenly just like PL :)

[Ellyidol]

I find it hard to group up though, unlike in PL where there are PUGs, if your unlucky to have anti-social people around you then you're forced to solo.

It was weird too, Red, how we were in the same group but you were an Order and I a Chaos :p

[Lesrider]

Lol so Order & Chaos don't fight each other?

So Red, how does it determine whether to give you loot/xp? You just have to deal enough damage, but not the most?

[BeardedBear]

This game does look really sweet, there is no denying that. As far at the free vs pay-to-play,that doesn't bother me at all, as I spend a few dollars a month on plat in PL very easily, on things that shouldn't cost real money. The one big hang up for me is it's wifi only, which is understandable considering the bandwidth required to play this gorgeous game. I'll have to hold off until I get wireless rocking at my place.

I'd love to see this on an iPad.

[Inching]

alright, just downloading OaC now.... lets see if its a PL killer or not.... a few observations so far before I even begin playing in retort to some comments on here.

1) PL is NOT free, the items and quests all need cash and its even gotten to the point that pots are paid by plat... everything cost plat and I dont doubt health and mana pots will also soon be bought with plat so stock up now. Every little thing cost plat... and BTW, the maps were only available "free" last week so the people like me who joined in the first week of this game, it wasnt free for 99% of us so dont be using the "PL is free" excuse.

2) extension of the above, at least Gameloft is upfront on the fact that you need to pay a subscription monthly and all content is free.... unlike STS who changes free content to paid content ie pots. With Gmeloft, you know what you are getting, either like it or dont like it... but Im just afraid that PL will start changing things to make a profit...

3) OaC is wifi based but I think it will be changed to 3G enabled, if not and I get frustrated then I'll quit and go back to PL... its not the end of the world...

Dont get me wrong, I love PL and to be honest about, ONLY PL Is an actual "pick up and play" game anywhere and connects where ever you are.. this is the highlight of this game. Its this reason and also the friends I have made which makes me stay here....

But dont forget people, we have the power of choice...

I will report back after I log in and with this... my download should be done......

[ratava]

alright, just downloading OaC now.... lets see if its a PL killer or not.... a few observations so far before I even begin playing in retort to some comments on here.

Thanks, I like f-b. I don't need to know about the pricing comparison, that obvious: Just do the math. I'm sure STS will learn from their mistakes. ;)

I'm most interested to hear what you think about the actual gameplay, userbility, social features, level/quest designs. What about PvP also???

Thanks a lot for the info! I don't plan on getting this game (pact with the devil) so I really like to hear how ppl get on with it. :D

[FluffNStuff]

Not sure if this was answered, but how many players to an 'instance'. For example PL is 5.

[Lesrider]

I caved. Made some room on my phone and in middle of downloading. So long free time!

I do hope they make it work on 3G at some point, though. With spring here, I'll be spending a lot less time indoors. Would love to be able to play while I take a break from a bikeride, etc.
But I never really did that much with PL either. Never worked well on 3G for me (NYC 3G is probably too crowded for games? )

Anyway, technology is getting better, there will be better and better games. Maybe STS needs a little healthy competition to step up their game ;)

[FluffNStuff]

I caved. Made some room on my phone and in middle of downloading. So long free time!

I do hope they make it work on 3G at some point, though. With spring here, I'll be spending a lot less time indoors. Would love to be able to play while I take a break from a bikeride, etc.
But I never really did that much with PL either. Never worked well on 3G for me (NYC 3G is probably too crowded for games? )

Anyway, technology is getting better, there will be better and better games. Maybe STS needs a little healthy competition to step up their game ;)

There are ways around the 3G issue, but best not discussed here :)

[Lesrider]

There are ways around the 3G issue, but best not discussed here :)

You mean the jailbreaking? Not gonna jailbreak my phone.

[Inching]

Jail break, ya we know.... If u hv other ways do PM me my friend

[BeardedBear]

There are ways around the 3G issue, but best not discussed here :)

If you know how without JB'ing your phone, please PM me fluff!

I feel so dirty saying JB'ing my phone for some reason.

[FluffNStuff]

Sorry, only way I do know is restoring my rightful root permissions to a device I purchased.

[BeardedBear]

Sorry, only way I do know is restoring my rightful root permissions to a device I purchased.

Ah, I figured. I have a company phone and they wouldn't be thrilled about that. Thanks though.

[Hellomynam]

Woah! This honestly looks like a sweet game. Less upkeep price then PL too. Downloading right now :D

[Inching]

Created my character

Add "INCHING"

[Lesrider]

Created my character

Add "INCHING"

Red created a thread with IGNs -- post there so he can add you to the list.

[StompArtist]

I believe this is only available on iOS, am I correct?

[FluffNStuff]

Players per instance, anyone?

[Lesrider]

Players per instance, anyone?

From what I understand, there are servers based on location, and it's a big open world that you roam around, bump into other players and kill things. So not like PL where you create a specific game and play with a specific group of people.

Am I right?

[Echelong]

Ah, I figured. I have a company phone and they wouldn't be thrilled about that. Thanks though.

Well they wouldn't be thrilled about you downloading games either lol.

Jailbreak is not as bad as some people think. All JB does is install Cydia on your phone and what you do after that is up to you. After you get Cydia you can only get the 3g unrestrictor or My3g and use your 3g as you want it to be and you don't have to download anything other than that, unless you want access to other stuff like SBS settings, true multitasking, themes or other stuff.

[Hellomynam]

Guys I'm also downloading would u all mind if I played with you? :D

[Christina]

Its impossible to play order and chaos if u don hav a wifi??

[Hellomynam]

Yes u must have wiFi

[Christina]

Oooo so jailbreak also useless??

[superglut2]

U can jailbreak and download 3G unrestrictor, thats what im doing on ipad :D then u can play over 3G

[j46g629h]

Oooo so jailbreak also useless??

jailbreaking will help

[Inching]

ok... initial feedback is that PL is better... OaC is really confusing and i have no clue whats going on... i think they tried to pack too much into a phone.... yes you have over 2000 items, 44 skills, bla bla bla but what gets really annoying is that "its too 3D", your walking into people, u turn invisible when u zoom too close, and battles takes too much time....

Im only lvl 3 so will try again tomorrow..... but initial thoughts are PL is better.... Im talking about game play ONLY and the charging every little thing for plat still sucks.... but thats another post.

IGN OaC: INCHING

[StompArtist]

ok... initial feedback is that PL is better... OaC is really confusing and i have no clue whats going on... i think they tried to pack too much into a phone.... yes you have over 2000 items, 44 skills, bla bla bla but what gets really annoying is that "its too 3D", your walking into people, u turn invisible when u zoom too close, and battles takes too much time....

Im only lvl 3 so will try again tomorrow..... but initial thoughts are PL is better.... Im talking about game play ONLY and the charging every little thing for plat still sucks.... but thats another post.

IGN OaC: INCHING

Is this iOS only?

[Christina]

I hav 3g unrestrict but i still cant get on.. It keep tell me to find a wifi

[Inching]

Is this iOS only?

yes to my knowledge its IOS only and only on 3Gs up compatible.... not backward compatible behind 3Gs

[ratava]

ok... initial feedback is that PL is better... OaC is really confusing and i have no clue whats going on... i think they tried to pack too much into a phone.... yes you have over 2000 items, 44 skills, bla bla bla but what gets really annoying is that "its too 3D", your walking into people, u turn invisible when u zoom too close, and battles takes too much time....

Im only lvl 3 so will try again tomorrow..... but initial thoughts are PL is better.... Im talking about game play ONLY and the charging every little thing for plat still sucks.... but thats another post.

IGN OaC: INCHING

Sweet, thanks a lot Inching! It's trying to be much more MMO I'm guessing? Does look the deal too. Why is combat slow paced? And the UI? How's that? No-one mentioned PvP either also? Hmm...

Yeah, hopefully with the added comp and lessons learnt from PL, STS will be MUCH MORE up-front with plat in B*. ;)

[Inching]

I hav 3g unrestrict but i still cant get on.. It keep tell me to find a wifi

Mui Mui, OaC is WIFI only.... you cannot play on 3G network

PS, chat me tomorrow, have stuff to tell you

[Hellomynam]

Would any1 play this game with me? Like group up?

[Lesrider]

I'm still downloading lol.
I hope it finishes in time for me to play a bit before I have to head out.

[Christina]

Mui Mui, OaC is WIFI only.... you cannot play on 3G network

PS, chat me tomorrow, have stuff to tell you

Im on pal now.. Wat u wanna tell me kor

[Hellomynam]

Haha so am I :D would u like to play together when we finish the download?

[Inching]

Sweet, thanks a lot Inching! It's trying to be much more MMO I'm guessing? Does look the deal too. Why is combat slow paced? And the UI? How's that? No-one mentioned PvP either also? Hmm...

Yeah, hopefully with the added comp and lessons learnt from PL, STS will be MUCH MORE up-front with plat in B*. ;)



The OaC concept kicks PL, graphics also wins... what OaC fail and PL totally destroys them is the fact that in PL you can see the entire fight as the characters are small and basically with the map lay over the instance, you basically know exactly where everything is and where the other players are... PL is simple and stupid like that but THATS WHAT MAKES A MOBILE MMO WORK.

Seriously, I dont doubt OaC is a truly WOW in your phone but really???? do you really want that?? its too much information and its something you cannot play while waiting in a line for 5 mins.. because OaC will take you 10 mins just to figure out where the hell everything is.... also when u finish a quest it does not tell u where to return the quest like PL and u basically have to remember where the NPC was who gave u the quest... the world is so dame big, trust me u will get lost and not find the NPC for ages.

DAY 1 FEEDBACK: PL 1 OaC 0

[BeardedBear]

Well they wouldn't be thrilled about you downloading games either lol.

Jailbreak is not as bad as some people think. All JB does is install Cydia on your phone and what you do after that is up to you. After you get Cydia you can only get the 3g unrestrictor or My3g and use your 3g as you want it to be and you don't have to download anything other than that, unless you want access to other stuff like SBS settings, true multitasking, themes or other stuff.

They could give two craps actually. It's my iTunes account and I pay for my purchases. My boss is the one who put me on to Angry Birds actually!

[Lesrider]

I'll give my own feedback if it ever finishes downloading lol. If I can't get on soon, I likely won't be able to try it out till this evening.

[Ellyidol]

Anyone know what a Business Currency is? Need it to craft apparently.

[Inching]

Anyone know what a Business Currency is? Need it to craft apparently.

holy crap, ur crafting already ??? what lvl r u?

add me, same name

[ratava]

The OaC concept kicks PL, graphics also wins... what OaC fail and PL totally destroys them is the fact that in PL you can see the entire fight as the characters are small and basically with the map lay over the instance, you basically know exactly where everything is and where the other players are... PL is simple and stupid like that but THATS WHAT MAKES A MOBILE MMO WORK.

Seriously, I dont doubt OaC is a truly WOW in your phone but really???? do you really want that?? its too much information and its something you cannot play while waiting in a line for 5 mins.. because OaC will take you 10 mins just to figure out where the hell everything is.... also when u finish a quest it does not tell u where to return the quest like PL and u basically have to remember where the NPC was who gave u the quest... the world is so dame big, trust me u will get lost and not find the NPC for ages.

DAY 1 FEEDBACK: PL 1 OaC 0

Good f-b & good context too. V fair it is day 1 still!

I was really wondering that: Those characters look awesome but giants on the screen! The pic we have of B* is blown up heaps so we'll see those lil chars back down to PL size next I'm guessing hehe! Kinda cute that way and everything needs to be fluid on my small iphone screen too. :o

[Ellyidol]

holy crap, ur crafting already ??? what lvl r u?

add me, same name

Just 10, I did the start of the crafting stuff. I wanted to try but I saw I needed this new thing.

[Wbto-Angeluscustos]

you have to pay and from my experience with gameloft they have horrible maintenaince.. once they make the game they forget about it. so im probably gunna stick with PL!

[Samhayne]

Hey guys, lets keep the OaC discussion to a couple threads please, thanks!

http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?25107-O-amp-C-IGN-database