View Full Version : My opinion on shard drop rates
SkyWow
07-26-2015, 11:48 AM
Your plan was to drop bars and increase shards?
Well now bar is dropping "a little" and shard is dropping back to its 500k...
Another problem "arcane" rings are now currently 4m! Tell us was this your plan to drop 2 more items? Now we have a worthless arcane ring and drag bar...
Shard didn't increase value its going lower and lower
Ebezaanec
07-26-2015, 12:02 PM
Nothing is here is worthless.
Value is derived from utility or usefulness. It may be worthless to people who have multiple of them and can't bear to own an item less than 10m, but for ordinary casual players it's a chance to enjoy gear denied to them for over a year.
Goku, ring price was 120M.
Wutzgood
07-26-2015, 12:15 PM
The ring is old now also so it's become more affordable to the masses. Maybe we are gonna need it for the new elites stages.
Ssneakykills
07-26-2015, 12:27 PM
Out with the old in with the new
Arcane ring has had its prime and it's rarity for a long time and people have benefitted a lot from its big stat boost, it's time to let go.
Spell
07-26-2015, 12:31 PM
I am rather happy that gear is affordable now. No more trading months nd months of gold for one item! Be happy farm on hehe :banana:
Bluebatthing
07-26-2015, 12:36 PM
Where can I get shard for 500k?
My point is that how can a player who's just obtained a ring after its price crash complain about the price dropping? I do not see the players who spent 120M for rings complaining. This is going to happen, you have to get used to it, IMO.
Serancha
07-26-2015, 12:42 PM
Goku, ring price was 120M.
In the height of plat farming season, when gold had very little value.
In the height of plat farming season, when gold had very little value.
After that, ring was still 80M or so. My point is, that he cannot seriously be complaining...
SkyWow
07-26-2015, 02:17 PM
I must not making my point clear... I'm not here to complain... I don't care to be honest... I'm just trying to make a point in the items. Arcane ring is still dropping... I won't be surprised if by end of this week it reaches 3m. And now theirs a x2 teeth event... Why make everything so easy?
Caabatric
07-26-2015, 02:26 PM
I must not making my point clear... I'm not here to complain... I don't care to be honest... I'm just trying to make a point in the items. Arcane ring is still dropping... I won't be surprised if by end of this week it reaches 3m. And now theirs a x2 teeth event... Why make everything so easy?
Now this isnt directed at you or anyone else but....
Before bad:
OMG opened 1000 locks and got nothing :(
Before good:
OMG looted shard I am rich :)
Now bad:
Omg opened 1000 locks and looted only a toor, and shard :(
Now good:
Omg opened 1000 locks and looted 7 shards 2 mari 1 fossil 2 toors :)
I am not a plat user so I cant sympathize to well with one who spent money on the game for nothing, but at least now if you drop a huge amount of gold onto the game, you get something now.... After all, would u rather loot a shard, or loot nothing....
I must not making my point clear... I'm not here to complain... I don't care to be honest... I'm just trying to make a point in the items. Arcane ring is still dropping... I won't be surprised if by end of this week it reaches 3m. And now theirs a x2 teeth event... Why make everything so easy?
It was already ruined when everybody and their mother could get arcanes, so what is the big deal about ruining it more?
SkyWow
07-26-2015, 03:09 PM
It was already ruined when everybody and their mother could get arcanes, so what is the big deal about ruining it more?
You right 👌
You right ��
At least this way, most of the game can get maxed out in a week. :)
Caabatric
07-26-2015, 03:49 PM
At least this way, most of the game can get maxed out in a week. :)
How exactly can someone max out in a week hmmmmm
Jazzi
07-26-2015, 04:10 PM
How exactly can someone max out in a week hmmmmm
no way for that. just an extreme exaggeration :-)
Bidiel
07-26-2015, 05:07 PM
jajaja my mom have an arcane ring and an arcane nekro too :v XD
no way for that. just an extreme exaggeration :-)
1 week if you're me or a plat spender.
2-3 weeks for the average player. It's not hard to earn gold.
Jazzi
07-26-2015, 05:55 PM
1 week if you're me or a plat spender.
2-3 weeks for the average player. It's not hard to earn gold.
Hehe not sure what u mean by "if u are me". With the right amount of plat one could get maxed in am hour ;). That is the purpose of using plat after all.
The average player runs elite wilds in 7-10 minutes, which at the moment would give him a bar in 20 hours. Minus expenses that will net him 2.2 m maybe. If the average player plays healthy 2 hours a day ( the average player plays less) she/he will need 50 days of farming teeth with double odds to get an arcane ring and nekro at current prices. I can't comment on average players doing arena, but farming locked will be about the same as the bar. So lets be at least somewhat realistic here.
The time a new player would need to Max out if he would start today and plays 2 hours a day is 3-4 months at best (unless right amount of plat).
It is easy to make gold for some. You, I and some others could run arena in 3 rogue parties with a nekro, maridos, singe combo and 30% damage lix and finish runs in under 2:45 minutes regardless of the bosses/environments they get, thus making 0.5-1 m every 2-3 hours the average player can't. So pls lets be realistic . The maxed minority has expanded, but it is nowhere near becoming a majority yet and the road between average and max is still quite long, unless u have the right amount of plat.
xcainnblecterx
07-26-2015, 06:10 PM
Me or a plat spender?
Aren't you a plat spender?
O_O
P.S.: topic has been derailed.
Zeus is also pro mercher
Me or a plat spender?
Aren't you a plat spender?
O_O
P.S.: topic has been derailed.
I've made over 250M without the use of plat. O.o
Hehe not sure what u mean by "if u are me". With the right amount of plat one could get maxed in am hour ;). That is the purpose of using plat after all.
The average player runs elite wilds in 7-10 minutes, which at the moment would give him a bar in 20 hours. Minus expenses that will net him 2.2 m maybe. If the average player plays healthy 2 hours a day ( the average player plays less) she/he will need 50 days of farming teeth with double odds to get an arcane ring and nekro at current prices. I can't comment on average players doing arena, but farming locked will be about the same as the bar. So lets be at least somewhat realistic here.
The time a new player would need to Max out if he would start today and plays 2 hours a day is 3-4 months at best (unless right amount of plat).
It is easy to make gold for some. You, I and some others could run arena in 3 rogue parties with a nekro, maridos, singe combo and 30% damage lix and finish runs in under 2:45 minutes regardless of the bosses/environments they get, thus making 0.5-1 m every 2-3 hours the average player can't. So pls lets be realistic . The maxed minority has expanded, but it is nowhere near becoming a majority yet and the road between average and max is still quite long, unless u have the right amount of plat.
I've done it, it's difficult but possible. Platinum did not really get me anywhere until I was already beyond wealthy. There's actually a traceable timeline on it and that's when the game was significantly more expensive.
Farming is a good way to get started gold, but if you use it as sole method of income, then of course you will not fair too well. All you really need to get started and earn gold is a few million (obtained by farming) and the rest goes into merchanting.
Ebezaanec
07-26-2015, 11:32 PM
I consider the first million gold a milestone.
Once one hits a million, a lot more gold-earning opportunities are opened and making gold becomes much easier.
Caabatric
07-26-2015, 11:53 PM
I consider the first million gold a milestone.
Once one hits a million, a lot more gold-earning opportunities are opened and making gold becomes much easier.
What how??
Someone teach me :(
Jazzi
07-27-2015, 01:05 AM
I've done it, it's difficult but possible. Platinum did not really get me anywhere until I was already beyond wealthy. There's actually a traceable timeline on it and that's when the game was significantly more expensive.
Farming is a good way to get started gold, but if you use it as sole method of income, then of course you will not fair too well. All you really need to get started and earn gold is a few million (obtained by farming) and the rest goes into merchanting.
The average player does not merch ;)
vawaid
07-27-2015, 04:29 AM
How exactly can someone max out in a week hmmmmm
when rengol was 25k-18k I got 800k per day, so yes I maxed my toon in a week. Next week: hunting teeth for bar, got shard, got bar, craft ring. :D
Prahasit Prahi
07-27-2015, 06:38 AM
Old times merching is too easy to make gold..I made some useful amount of millions to spend on now wisely.
Off topic**
Coming to topic..there is no way to rise the price of it unless if its used for another purpose.
Titanium
07-27-2015, 06:59 AM
My opinion about shard.
If shard will be a crafting ingredient in near future price won't be 3x or more. Just because you can obtain it from naxbot.
I'm wondering if mythics weapons will be added in token store during events...
suckyiknow
07-27-2015, 06:59 AM
I've made over 250M without the use of plat. O.o
Mm, no, that doesn't count if you already have a capital of more than 100M to merch with (got with plat).
Average player can max out in 3-4 weeks of hard farming. Plat spenders can max out in <1 day. You pay to skip the menial work, why the heck would you complain? (directed at OP not the OP Zeus)
Prahasit Prahi
07-27-2015, 07:23 AM
Mm, no, that doesn't count if you already have a capital of more than 100M to merch with (got with plat).
Average player can max out in 3-4 weeks of hard farming. Plat spenders can max out in <1 day. You pay to skip the menial work, why the heck would you complain? (directed at OP not the OP Zeus)
My investment is around 30k but I made some milions..u just need to get out at right times.
The average player does not merch ;)
Hence why I said 2-3 weeks for the average player.
Mm, no, that doesn't count if you already have a capital of more than 100M to merch with (got with plat).
Average player can max out in 3-4 weeks of hard farming. Plat spenders can max out in <1 day. You pay to skip the menial work, why the heck would you complain? (directed at OP not the OP Zeus)
Mmmm, I suggest you look up my trading history and figure out that at the time, I did not have 100M. In fact, not even close. I had L36 Mythic Daggers (which I farmed/merched for). From there, I kept flipping them. They were purchased at around 9M and I made so many flips, I was able to drive the prices up to 30-35M (& this was when not many people knew about plat farm). This was done without plat and without gold earned from platinum. If I'm not mistaken, I made roughly 75-80M off of it.
From there, I merched arlors, buying green sets at 2M per set and draining the supply with the 80M I had. Eventually, they rose to 4-5M which is when I sold them off.
I've never complained about the price drops - I just stated that the OP cannot seriously be complaining about such a minuscule drop.
MasterP
07-27-2015, 06:12 PM
awesome post OP you da man