Orcslaying set.

[twoxc]

Finally completed crafting the set. Helmet. Armor. Ring and Pendant.
(4/3/3/4 nomerite ingot=420 Orc Tag, 30/15/20/35 insignia=100 Insignia.)

There's no quest afterward.

Also I just wanna say that it will be sitting in my stash until further notice or possibly forever unless sts has any other plan for them cause as of now it's utterly completely USELESS.

Also the pendant is bugged as being a rogue after I craft it I receive the str base pendant instead, which suppose to be for a warrior.

So sts please answer
What exactly is the purpose of these chain quest for ridiculously useless Not-tradable Orcslaying legendary set?

I could have sold all those insignia at a minimum of 10k each which come out to 1mil gold and also use Orc tag to purchase many gold orcish chest selling 50-100k making another 1-2m.

[Trojan2100]

Finally completed crafting the set. Helmet. Armor. Ring and Pendant.
(4/3/3/4 nomerite ingot=420 Orc Tag, 30/15/20/35 insignia=100 Insignia.)

There's no quest afterward.

Also I just wanna say that it will be sitting in my stash until further notice or possibly forever unless sts has any other plan for them cause as of now it's utterly completely USELESS.

Also the pendant is bugged as being a rogue after I craft it I receive the str base pendant instead, which suppose to be for a warrior.

So sts please answer
What exactly is the purpose of these chain quest for ridiculously useless Not-tradable Orcslaying legendary set?

I could have sold all those insignia at a minimum of 10k each which come out to 1mil gold and also use Orc tag to purchase many gold orcish chest selling 50-100k making another 1-2m.

Thx for letting us know, I hope it wasn't all for nothing

[Jazzi]

Thanks for sharing this valuable information! I can only hope this is not final. However considering how many useless things there are in the game, it might be just another quest.

[greekAL]

yep may just another quest lk gleipnir

[Ebezaanec]

It will either be buffed or made useful with crafting something.

The set, considering its lengthy and costly crafting, will revised some way. That's pretty much a guarantee.

[Bidiel]

lol like gleipnir, i complete tha quest and instantly delete the gleipnir XD i hope the orc set could be upgrade cause im crafting it to :'( and yes many tags and leg ins wasted :v ty for the information! :D

[Jazzi]

It will either be buffed or made useful with crafting something.

The set, considering its lengthy and costly crafting, will revised some way. That's pretty much a guarantee.

I wouldn't cont on that. Look at the latest mythic pet for example, useless but expensive. The lvl 30/31 mythics still dropping from locked: useless. The daggers dropping from the third Rengol boss: hard to obtain, but useless. Boris the pet: useless. Countless other useless pets (some for 90 plat). A huge percentage of the new legendary gear: a useless filler. Well this is how many things are on RPGs and MMORPGs: you just have many useless fillers.

[Edward Coug]

Finally completed crafting the set. Helmet. Armor. Ring and Pendant.
(4/3/3/4 nomerite ingot=420 Orc Tag, 30/15/20/35 insignia=100 Insignia.)

There's no quest afterward.

Also I just wanna say that it will be sitting in my stash until further notice or possibly forever unless sts has any other plan for them cause as of now it's utterly completely USELESS.

Also the pendant is bugged as being a rogue after I craft it I receive the str base pendant instead, which suppose to be for a warrior.

So sts please answer
What exactly is the purpose of these chain quest for ridiculously useless Not-tradable Orcslaying legendary set?

I could have sold all those insignia at a minimum of 10k each which come out to 1mil gold and also use Orc tag to purchase many gold orcish chest selling 50-100k making another 1-2m.

Thank you for doing the quest so I didn't have to. I'm saving my orc tags just in case, but I really don't like dailies as a requirement for mythics.

They should buff the set. Or at least make it tradeable so you can sell it to collectors.

[Kakashis]

Thank you for the info. I predicted that there would be a set bonus that would at least make you OP second to the mythic set buy I guess I'm wrong this time. I doubt it'll get buffed and I guess itll be another time killer completion quest

[Dimitrian]

The Gleipnir was a very decent amulet back at the level 31 cap.
It is also a very important item in the game's story.
The Kraken Isles campaign,The Battle for Nordr and The Realm of Shadows campaigns are tied together because of this amulet.
And yes,i agree,the level 36 mythics are useless now because all of you have gear for level 46.

What's the difference between level 46 and 36?
Ten.Ten levels. (Yes i can do maths too!)
But back at the level 36 cap these armors used to be the thing everyone wanted.

And for the Orcslaying gear:they're actually preety good for non-geared players such as me [emoji14]

Trimis de pe al meu GT-P5100 folosind Tapatalk

[Xorrior]

10 levels later my Himingleva mythic armour is still legit!

[Oezheasate]

Imo it will have some sort of upgrading system which will give it better stats.

[Energizeric]

Gleipnir was NOT a good amulet at either the 36 or 31 cap LOL. It WAS a good amulet at the 26 cap, which was what it was meant to be. I cannot speak for other classes, but for sorcerers it was the best amulet at the 26 cap. I used it until I got my Lunar.

[Caabatric]

And for the Orcslaying gear:they're actually preety good for non-geared players such as me [emoji14]

Trimis de pe al meu GT-P5100 folosind Tapatalk
Twoxc also pointed out that you could have made 2-3m in total for just selling the materials required to build the set.... easily enough to gear yourself

[hina]

I think they will upgrade when rengol elite is launched as rune will be farmabe in elites so don't worry and thnx for sharing your experience :-)

[extrapayah]

looking at the stat, it is actually decent, but probably the type is not that everyone wanted (mostly wants brutality/potency/assault), and anyway, gleipnir is l30, lol
and the fact that the new gear sets try to reduce int given to war/rogue, and str to mage...

edit: the sets for the mage is probably the worst though... since like rogue, non-primary stats is very important to mage, hence why blood ruby was used last season, compared to warriors who prefered archon ring

[KingMartin]

Thank you for the info buddy. I crafted two items and I have the funds to craft the other two but I will wait and keep running the daily.

If this is all there is to the legendary quest then it's a joke. Similar joke like removing gems and giving us jewels with ridiculously low drop rate compared to how many you need for crafting equivalent of grand gem 46. (+7 stats).

[Amicusdei]

I am finishing up this quest as well.
It would be nice to hear from sts if this is all there is to it or does it have implications for mythics.
Not that it matters to me now, what's done is done.

[eugene9707]

Gleipnir was NOT a good amulet at either the 36 or 31 cap LOL. It WAS a good amulet at the 26 cap, which was what it was meant to be. I cannot speak for other classes, but for sorcerers it was the best amulet at the 26 cap. I used it until I got my Lunar.

Correct me if im wrong .... i thought the Gleipnir was released with Nordar Expansion (lv 31 cap) ?

[Ravager]

Gleipnir was NOT a good amulet at either the 36 or 31 cap LOL. It WAS a good amulet at the 26 cap, which was what it was meant to be. I cannot speak for other classes, but for sorcerers it was the best amulet at the 26 cap. I used it until I got my Lunar.

Correct me if im wrong .... i thought the Gleipnir was released with Nordar Expansion (lv 31 cap) ?

26 cap. I believe you get the quest in one of the kraken isles zones and not nordr zones.

[Serancha]

26 cap. I believe you get the quest in one of the kraken isles zones and not nordr zones.

Nope. The Kraken quest was called the Power of Gleipnir, which was a foreshadowing of the Nordr Storyline.

To get the Gleipnir amulet, you had to run the quests through Nordr, kill the last boss a second time, click on the question mark, go to the basement of Stronghold....bringing back any memories?

(The amulet is indeed level 30...and I can't believe both Ener and Ravvy were wrong in the same thread - first time ever)

[eugene9707]

26 cap. I believe you get the quest in one of the kraken isles zones and not nordr zones.

just checked .. we are talking about different items lol

You two are talking this:　


Quest: Power of Gleipnir
Accepted: Gypsy Rose
Description: Find the source of Bloodhammer's power
To complete: Defeat Captain Hately or Captain Bloodhammer
Turn in: Hemingleva's Tomb
Reward: 500g; Warrior: Amethyst Pendant of the Tides; Rogue: Carnelian Amulet of the Tides; Sorcerer: Wizard Locket of the Tides


Quest: The Sealed Tomb
Prerequisite: Silver Lining, Silver Mines
Accepted: Camilla
Description: ...once cleared the Kolga can rest a bit easier at night
To complete: Defeat Harley and Stonegrip Slithe in Kraken Mines, Level 3
Turn in: Camilla
Reward: 800g, Warrior: Camilla's Brooch of Cleansing; Rogue: Camilla's Brooch of Strife; Sorcerer: Camilla's Brooch of Purity


And I'm talking about this:



Quest: Gleipnir
Accepted: Corpse of Grimnr
Previous description: The final shard of Gleipnir was buried with Uller in his tomb.
Description: ...ask Ture for permission to open Uller's Tomb.
To complete: Talk to Ture in Uller's Tomb then interact with the alter in the same room and finally interact with Uller's Tomb.
Turn in: Uller's Tomb
Reward: 1,400g; Gleipnir

[eugene9707]

Nope. The Kraken quest was called the Power of Gleipnir, which was a foreshadowing of the Nordr Storyline.

To get the Gleipnir amulet, you had to run the quests through Nordr, kill the last boss a second time, click on the question mark, go to the basement of Stronghold....bringing back any memories?

(The amulet is indeed level 30...and I can't believe both Ener and Ravvy were wrong in the same thread - first time ever)

beat me to it... i was busy formatting the quest line quotes lol

[Ravager]

Hahah ok. Too long ago. Whatever :p

[Serancha]

Hahah ok. Too long ago. Whatever :p

Heeheehee totally busted.

[Energizeric]

Yes, I guess I was wrong. There is a first time for everything! :playful:

[acewasabi]

Thing is, new mythic set will require SOMEthing as the base, right? Seems.. outrageous.. that all this effort is for something of so little use. I'm saving tags and insignias until more info comes to light.

[Fibus]

Congrats on completing all of the quests! And thank you for the report on the necklace. We have it on our known issues list and are trying to get a fix out for it soon (this week or next).

I guess I can provide some insight for the Legendary armor quests. They are intended to be a completely free way to obtain a set of powerful items. The only other way to currently obtain items of similar power is from Ren'gol Crates. For players that are not already decked out in full Mythics from the previous expansion, this would be some of the best gear available for them in the game. You guys opened a lot of Ren'gol Crates though. I mean, A LOT. This created a larger influx of Legendary items into the market than we anticipated, which caused the quest rewards to be less desirable. We've learned quite a bit so far with the release of this expansion and plan to take it all into account as we create future content.

Also, an important note, the Mythic armor quests tied to Elite content (releasing right after Ursoth's Assault, which is just around the corner) will be a continuation of those quests. For players that haven't yet completed them, and want the Mythic armor, you'll want to make that a priority.

[Serancha]

You guys opened a lot of Ren'gol Crates though. I mean, A LOT.

If you are saying "A LOT" in caps, that means a huge increase. That would mean that making arcane drop less rare = more people opening crates. It's not just people with a ton of disposable cash opening them, now that the casual player can open with a realistic chance of getting something decent. Amazing how that works.

[Haligali]

Also, an important note, the Mythic armor quests tied to Elite content (releasing right after Ursoth's Assault, which is just around the corner) will be a continuation of those quests. For players that haven't yet completed them, and want the Mythic armor, you'll want to make that a priority.

Nooo, please donnnnnt :((( why bruhu, ima cry. Quest is boring, set is useless..

[Ebezaanec]

Also, an important note, the Mythic armor quests tied to Elite content (releasing right after Ursoth's Assault, which is just around the corner) will be a continuation of those quests. For players that haven't yet completed them, and want the Mythic armor, you'll want to make that a priority.

Lol, knew it. Set was necessary from get go.

[Trojan2100]

Congrats on completing all of the quests! And thank you for the report on the necklace. We have it on our known issues list and are trying to get a fix out for it soon (this week or next).

I guess I can provide some insight for the Legendary armor quests. They are intended to be a completely free way to obtain a set of powerful items. The only other way to currently obtain items of similar power is from Ren'gol Crates. For players that are not already decked out in full Mythics from the previous expansion, this would be some of the best gear available for them in the game. You guys opened a lot of Ren'gol Crates though. I mean, A LOT. This created a larger influx of Legendary items into the market than we anticipated, which caused the quest rewards to be less desirable. We've learned quite a bit so far with the release of this expansion and plan to take it all into account as we create future content.

Also, an important note, the Mythic armor quests tied to Elite content (releasing right after Ursoth's Assault, which is just around the corner) will be a continuation of those quests. For players that haven't yet completed them, and want the Mythic armor, you'll want to make that a priority.

Thank you for the info , I'm glad I saved all my tags

[twoxc]

Congrats on completing all of the quests! And thank you for the report on the necklace. We have it on our known issues list and are trying to get a fix out for it soon (this week or next).

I guess I can provide some insight for the Legendary armor quests. They are intended to be a completely free way to obtain a set of powerful items. The only other way to currently obtain items of similar power is from Ren'gol Crates. For players that are not already decked out in full Mythics from the previous expansion, this would be some of the best gear available for them in the game. You guys opened a lot of Ren'gol Crates though. I mean, A LOT. This created a larger influx of Legendary items into the market than we anticipated, which caused the quest rewards to be less desirable. We've learned quite a bit so far with the release of this expansion and plan to take it all into account as we create future content.

Also, an important note, the Mythic armor quests tied to Elite content (releasing right after Ursoth's Assault, which is just around the corner) will be a continuation of those quests. For players that haven't yet completed them, and want the Mythic armor, you'll want to make that a priority.

A CONTINUATION of those quests? meaning you have to complete the Orcslaying Set quests first in order to start on Mythics armor quests?

[Ebezaanec]

A CONTINUATION of those quests? meaning you have to complete the Orcslaying Set quests first in order to start on Mythics armor quests?

You thought you were done? Moar quests for ya. GG lol.

[twoxc]

You thought you were done? Moar quests for ya. GG.

well at least i didn't get screwed for doing those quests lol for nothing. no harm no foul for me, just gotta continue to save orc tag.

[Titanium]

This is not the first time when STS delays to give all info and when they do BOOOM !

On the Crafted Gear thread (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?225145-Rage-of-the-Ren-gol-Sneak-Peak-Crafted-Gear) it says nothing about mythic quest requirements. Nothing.. Nada ! How about letting us know before further notice? .

I'm expecting tomorrow to see a post on forum about Ursoth event.. " Hey guys, do you remember lock crates of watch? You kinda need them to craft Elondrian crates "

I'm waiting to watch the reaction of those who are not using forum very often ! Priceless!

[twoxc]

This is not the first time when STS delays to give all info and when they do BOOOM !

On the Crafted Gear thread (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?225145-Rage-of-the-Ren-gol-Sneak-Peak-Crafted-Gear) it says nothing about mythic quest requirements. Nothing.. Nada ! How about letting us know before further notice? .

I'm expecting tomorrow to see a post on forum about Ursoth event.. " Hey guys, do you remember lock crates of watch? You kinda need them to craft Elondrian crates "

I'm waiting to watch the reaction of those who are not using forum very often ! Priceless!

The price of INSIGNIA just doubled and on the crafted gear thread it did say that BOTH Set orcslaying and mythic quests were from the same guy Artificer Rovohn and involve garetta blacksmith. The only missing piece was that will they be Chained/Continuation quests or not. Until now we know they are and now yea to those who purchase insignia and save them early for cheap was worth it but also could have been screwed as it could have been USELESS.

[Titanium]

The price of INSIGNIA just doubled and on the crafted gear thread it did say that BOTH Set orcslaying and mythic quests were from the same guy Artificer Rovohn and involve garetta blacksmith. The only missing piece was that will they be Chained/Continuation quests or not. Until now we know they are and now yea to those who purchase insignia and save them early for cheap was worth it but also could have been screwed as it could have been USELESS.

They didn't make it to sound clear to everyone... since everybody was asking if you need orcslaying set to craft the new gear if i remember correctly ! But I think it's the RIGHT choice to continue the quest. I have 43 insignias. I doubt i will craft the first mythic set.. I will wait until price will decrease and keep farming the new content which it will come ! Grats for orcslaying set :D

[Prahasit Prahi]

Congrats on completing all of the quests! And thank you for the report on the necklace. We have it on our known issues list and are trying to get a fix out for it soon (this week or next).

I guess I can provide some insight for the Legendary armor quests. They are intended to be a completely free way to obtain a set of powerful items. The only other way to currently obtain items of similar power is from Ren'gol Crates. For players that are not already decked out in full Mythics from the previous expansion, this would be some of the best gear available for them in the game. You guys opened a lot of Ren'gol Crates though. I mean, A LOT. This created a larger influx of Legendary items into the market than we anticipated, which caused the quest rewards to be less desirable. We've learned quite a bit so far with the release of this expansion and plan to take it all into account as we create future content.

Also, an important note, the Mythic armor quests tied to Elite content (releasing right after Ursoth's Assault, which is just around the corner) will be a continuation of those quests. For players that haven't yet completed them, and want the Mythic armor, you'll want to make that a priority.

How do u release this information out like this?

Are you going crazy?

U should be banned for this.

[twoxc]

They didn't make it to sound clear to everyone... since everybody was asking if you need orcslaying set to craft the new gear if i remember correctly ! But I think it's the RIGHT choice to continue the quest. I have 43 insignias. I doubt i will craft the first mythic set.. I will wait until price will decrease and keep farming the new content which it will come ! Grats for orcslaying set :D

Yea if it were clearer it would have been better oh well. at least now we know and wonder no longer.

[Prahasit Prahi]

Lolololol... Someone seems a bit angry.


This had to happen the very day I sold all my insignias(a grand total of 32 in auction for 16k each)...

Besides all that TY for that information Fibus. Much appreciated.

I bought 50 for 18k and sold them thinking they are useless for 15k.

[Prahasit Prahi]

Well I've been farming for them for quite a while and hoarding them. Sold them after two made this thread. Been selling every now and then when market fluctuates and decided to bulk sell for 16k(yday), it bit me in the butt. Not really worried I'm sure its going to make farming dailies even more worth it.

U got the time to play it..but I'm kinda busy.. :(

If we need mythic gear we need to do the legendary quest...so for legendary keep a epic gear quest. ffs

[Oursizes]

Its pretty messed up though how it was never mentioned as a continuation in the original thread. And now they just drop the information like this.

[Sverdysiuss]

Congrats on completing all of the quests! And thank you for the report on the necklace. We have it on our known issues list and are trying to get a fix out for it soon (this week or next).

I guess I can provide some insight for the Legendary armor quests. They are intended to be a completely free way to obtain a set of powerful items. The only other way to currently obtain items of similar power is from Ren'gol Crates. For players that are not already decked out in full Mythics from the previous expansion, this would be some of the best gear available for them in the game. You guys opened a lot of Ren'gol Crates though. I mean, A LOT. This created a larger influx of Legendary items into the market than we anticipated, which caused the quest rewards to be less desirable. We've learned quite a bit so far with the release of this expansion and plan to take it all into account as we create future content.

Also, an important note, the Mythic armor quests tied to Elite content (releasing right after Ursoth's Assault, which is just around the corner) will be a continuation of those quests. For players that haven't yet completed them, and want the Mythic armor, you'll want to make that a priority.

Just around the corner means this week?:-) And guys, how long you think Ursoth event will last?

[Jazzi]

Dang, so now I will have to finish this on my rogue and mage... I looted 21 insignias whilst doing dailies on both of them during the last month. I guess I will be done in 9 months ;)

[Edward Coug]

How long does the actual crafting take per item?

[Serancha]

If the orcslayer takes weeks to obtain and is a required quest, could the orcslayer gear not be made at least comparable if not slightly better than the crate gear?

People want a viable reward for something that takes a huge amount of work, and from my understanding this armour is not even wearable. Yes, you could say that since its completion is necessary to start the mythic quest, access to the mythic quest is reward enough, but most people won't feel that way. I am guessing the Ursoth gear is supposed to be the step between crate and mythic, but it feels discouraging to farm weeks for a set of gear that has substandard stats.

The gear quality should be Elite Mythic > Orcslayer > Ursoth > Crate. The amount of work involved should determine the quality of the gear.

[twoxc]

How long does the actual crafting take per item?

each item takes 8 hours or 16 plat to speed.

[Edward Coug]

each item takes 8 hours or 16 plat to speed.

That's not bad. Thank you. Glad I saved my tags. Just have to pony up the gold for the insignias. Zzzz.

Gratz, by the way. You called it.

[Candylicks]

Don't like how it was never disclosed that we needed the orc slayer set. Sts come on we asked this 10x on threads and in the box. When you drop this info late it is frustrating to the community.

And yes as Ser said the stats are horrid, it's a grind it should reflect the work we put in to make it.

[Serancha]

They could also make insignia drop from elite bosses worldwide. That would make the grind a lot less painful. I don't relish running these 3 maps 500 times to complete this quest, nor does anyone else I know.

[Jazzi]

They could also make insignia drop from elite bosses worldwide. That would make the grind a lot less painful. I don't relish running these 3 maps 500 times to complete this quest, nor does anyone else I know.

Sadly it is more like 1000 runs per toon, unless u want to buy them :)

[Madnex]

Information this important should not be withheld until the last second. Things would've been way smoother if it was stated that you need the junk set to get the good one in the original thread.

It's just annoying at this point and it has disrupted the insignias' price for no good reason.

[Hectororius]

Wow for once I was right!

The orc slayer setd needs to be better than crate gear. As much as this would disappoint crate poppers, it also means that average players will eventually be able to have what should supposedly be the 2nd best set at 46 cap (mythic being best).

I really hope the goal of elites is to complete crafting the mythic set and not drop elite pinks that will only be equal to event/crate pinks as in previous iterations.

Also please do not be surprised anymore by your player bases ability to drop loads of time and money in to your game.

I really hope the stats for the orc slayer set get readjusted to reflect their importance in the game and not just be a stop gap make work quest to get the more desired glintstone set. I should be proud to be able to wear either set instead of settling for some cheap crate gear that cost a 1/3rd the price of something that would take weeks to farm

[Serancha]

10 runs and my party members got 2-3 insignias each. I got 0. If they are going to have long quests like this, it really should not be totally "luck of the drop" based. You should be able to auto-get an insignia for every 5 or 10 bosses killed, in addition to luck-based drops. Otherwise people who don't have good luck with the drop system get screwed.

[Hectororius]

10 runs and my party members got 2-3 insignias each. I got 0. If they are going to have long quests like this, it really should not be totally "luck of the drop" based. You should be able to auto-get an insignia for every 5 or 10 bosses killed, in addition to luck-based drops. Otherwise people who don't have good luck with the drop system get screwed.

There should definitely be an insignia quest. Hopefully the NPC for that quest is standing by rhovon so that we can fullly exlore the town every day

[twoxc]

There should definitely be an insignia quest. Hopefully the NPC for that quest is standing by rhovon so that we can fullly exlore the town every day

i sense a x2 insignia weekend coming xD lol

[Edward Coug]

10 runs and my party members got 2-3 insignias each. I got 0. If they are going to have long quests like this, it really should not be totally "luck of the drop" based. You should be able to auto-get an insignia for every 5 or 10 bosses killed, in addition to luck-based drops. Otherwise people who don't have good luck with the drop system get screwed.

I don't have a huge problem with it. It's another thing to farm. Players who don't plan on getting the myth set right away get to make some gold.

The problem I have is the lack of communication. There are many players who were using their orc tags on orcish chests. Since Orc tags are tied to daily quests, these players are screwed. That's why I don't like daily quests being tied to the myth set. You can't just farm everything at your own pace. You have to log in every day, and you get a limited amount per day, no matter how hard you want to farm.

[Serancha]

The problem I have is the lack of communication. There are many players who were using their orc tags on orcish chests. Since Orc tags are tied to daily quests, these players are screwed. That's why I don't like daily quests being tied to the myth set. You can't just farm everything at your own pace. You have to log in every day, and you get a limited amount per day, no matter how hard you want to farm.

Yes, I posted about that earlier, but the post disappeared shortly after.

[Candylicks]

Yup I'm weeks behind now because I don't have the tags. Gg....

[Golem]

Trust me guys we gonna need shards and fossils to craft new sets. gl.

[Edward Coug]

Trust me guys we gonna need shards and fossils to craft new sets. gl.

Um. The ingredients have already been listed. Shards and fossils aren't part of the recipe.

[Haligali]

I guess I can provide some insight for the Legendary armor quests. They are intended to be a completely free way to obtain a set of powerful items. The only other way to currently obtain items of similar power is from Ren'gol Crates. For players that are not already decked out in full Mythics from the previous expansion, this would be some of the best gear available for them in the game. You guys opened a lot of Ren'gol Crates though. I mean, A LOT. This created a larger influx of Legendary items into the market than we anticipated, which caused the quest rewards to be less desirable. We've learned quite a bit so far with the release of this expansion and plan to take it all into account as we create future content.

I wana react to this part.

If this set was intended to be a free way, then the intention is wrong. This set is not free, it cost a LOT gold. I mean a lot.
The op mentioned 1m gold+putting time on the dailies. I collected only 4 nomerite ingot so far and looted 15 insignia, the remaining 15 i must bought from cs to start the crafting in time. It was 15-18k gold each, idk if now more, but i spent 240k on insignia+unknown amount of gold on pet feed+potions meanwhile farming daily quest just for the helm..

What i want to say with this, this set is NOT free, not even cheap, but an expensive set which takes lot time also. It is much more easy and cheaper to pop some locks and get some gear. So this set deserve to have better stats than a crate legendary.

[Edward Coug]

I wana react to this part.

If this set was intended to be a free way, then the intention is wrong. This set is not free, it cost a LOT gold. I mean a lot.
The op mentioned 1m gold+putting time on the dailies. I collected only 4 nomerite ingot so far and looted 15 insignia, the remaining 15 i must bought from cs to start the crafting in time. It was 15-18k gold each, idk if now more, but i spent 240k on insignia+unknown amount of gold on pet feed+potions meanwhile farming daily quest just for the helm..

What i want to say with this, this set is NOT free, not even cheap, but an expensive set which takes lot time also. It is much more easy and cheaper to pop some locks and get some gear. So this set deserve to have better stats than a crate legendary.

While I agree, the set should have better stats (and actually the right stats, lol), it's not like it's a sunk cost. You need to do it to get access to the mythic set quest . The gear could give negative stats, and it would still be worth doing.

[notfaded1]

Yup I'm weeks behind now because I don't have the tags. Gg....
This whole thing is going to wrong way fast.
I guess if you have no job and no money ur set then! We didn't craft that other set because it was terrible and everyone spent their tags on the crates unless they have money. Sounds like a lose / lose for everyone if you ask me...

[Titanium]

Trust me guys we gonna need shards and fossils to craft new sets. gl.

Yep, i heard same thing ! 10 Copper Chests 2 Shards 1 Fossil 1 Red Arlor Cap 1 Forerunner Armor 1 Vampire Amulet 1 Blood Ruby with 3 para and you get a complete mythic set

[Hectororius]

There's no way something that takes 30+ days to complete be an insignificant set. It doesn't even provide a set bonus once completed.

[notfaded1]

exactly hect... it's totally bogus. I'm at work right now... guess working is more important than the game. I gotta catch up on some movies and books too.

[Carapace]

Also please do not be surprised anymore by your player bases ability to drop loads of time and money in to your game.


We certainly calculated what we anticipated based on previous experiences and events in the game, however when something is a brand new idea it's hard to quantify its real impact. A prime example is the Opening of Garetta Event. We speculated, based on how feverishly players consumed love potions during the Love Event, what we felt would take the community around 4-7 days to complete. The original number we wanted to use was actually 100,000! We ended up increasing that to 250,000 to compensate for the potential that the community would tear through the content. We were so very wrong. The community tore through 250,000 points in less than 48 hours! It was incredibly exciting for us and we think you're all amazing!

It's not an exact science, and not every event or idea has a 1:1 correlation with something previously implemented so it's usually educated speculation backed by related content experience and releases. We certainly don't mean to trivialize or act shocked, but we're constantly impressed and humbled by our community and their capabilities as players. It's a learning process for everyone :)

[Ssneakykills]

Sigh why aren't we told these things earlier

This is more annoying than the ad pop up when I log in

[Edward Coug]

We certainly calculated what we anticipated based on previous experiences and events in the game, however when something is a brand new idea it's hard to quantify its real impact. A prime example is the Opening of Garetta Event. We speculated, based on how feverishly players consumed love potions during the Love Event, what we felt would take the community around 4-7 days to complete. The original number we wanted to use was actually 100,000! We ended up increasing that to 250,000 to compensate for the potential that the community would tear through the content. We were so very wrong. The community tore through 250,000 points in less than 48 hours! It was incredibly exciting for us and we think you're all amazing!

It's not an exact science, and not every event or idea has a 1:1 correlation with something previously implemented so it's usually educated speculation backed by related content experience and releases. We certainly don't mean to trivialize or act shocked, but we're constantly impressed and humbled by our community and their capabilities as players. It's a learning process for everyone :)

While I do understand this, I'm a bit puzzled over the lack of communication about the requirement of completing the orcslaying quest to access the new mythic set. Players were asking about this a long time ago. I don't get it.

Just a criticism, not trying to lay into you guys. I know you're working hard. It just seems like this was something that was pretty easy to handle, whether in game or on the forums. Something to learn from.

[Tatman]

Important information should be properly announced. As a separate thread, even in ingame news in my opinion. Not as a reply to some thread that most people won't even read.

[najcomp]

just buff the stat of the set,so its worth all the hardwork

[Anyona]

We certainly calculated what we anticipated based on previous experiences and events in the game, however when something is a brand new idea it's hard to quantify its real impact. A prime example is the Opening of Garetta Event. We speculated, based on how feverishly players consumed love potions during the Love Event, what we felt would take the community around 4-7 days to complete. The original number we wanted to use was actually 100,000! We ended up increasing that to 250,000 to compensate for the potential that the community would tear through the content. We were so very wrong. The community tore through 250,000 points in less than 48 hours! It was incredibly exciting for us and we think you're all amazing!

It's not an exact science, and not every event or idea has a 1:1 correlation with something previously implemented so it's usually educated speculation backed by related content experience and releases. We certainly don't mean to trivialize or act shocked, but we're constantly impressed and humbled by our community and their capabilities as players. It's a learning process for everyone :)
A way to move forward with the inisgnia situation is to add an npc which holds a daily quest which he/she grants an x amount of insignias (lets say 5 per day) when an x amount of bosses/mobs are killed and/or when an x amount of gems are collected within Cyrogem Mines. If this or a similar idea isn't implented into the game I suggest making the mythic crafting quest avaliable to everyone, even if they haven't done the orc slaying questline.

I understand that this whole process has never been done. I think STS as a company has handled the constructive criticsm very well. I do still enjoy the game but I more so now log on to pvp due to the lack of pve content which is profitable. As it stands there are 3 farmable ways to get gold in the new economy:
-Locked Farmimg
-Farming Vials of Ectoplasm in arena or T1/2/3
-Farming 150 teeth for a Dragonite Bar
We have limited things to farm as of now and it does get boring grinding for the whole day.

As you've stated, Ursoth is around the corner and I am very excited for it. Even though I am not a huge fan of the teased pets. I am still interested in what these new pets will bring. I do also hope that the lb doesn't offer any exclusive OP arcane pets like last year.

Just keep going and growing as a company, you've done a fantastic job so far with the expansion but of course there are still further improvements that could be made. The jewel system as an example.

Regards,
Anyona

[Tatman]

My point is no use crying over spilt milk.
No crying, just stating that this is not the proper way to communicate important information. Other ways, that are not proper, but have happened in the past - in test servers, in forum chat, by mods/devs standing in towns etc.

U no agree?

[KingMartin]

STS whatever you do, please make the old elites more attractive too. It would be nice if at least Nordr and up had some chance to drop stuff needed to craft mythic gear 46.

Make it a smaller chance, but still - give us a reason to farm those maps, that were mostly killed by event gear. It's really a pity to have such nice maps as Palm Rock, Skull Cove, Hall of Valheim, Caves of Tarewa or Forrest of Shades that are run only by addicts - thank you :)

[Gracepreacher]

I see everyone posting for STS to do this or that so that they can get easy insignias... What about the people who have worked all this time since the expansion to get the set? How fair is it going to be to us if you guys get a easy pass on insignias now? I have ran myself to death for insignias and spent a lot of gold to get this. Everyone could have done the same thing that we did and went and got it as well. But what did most do? Most went and got orc chests and sold them. If you guys get easy insignias, I believe those of us ho ran and spent gold should get easy orc chests just the same as you guys so that we can make gold also. So you have to look at this from both sides before you start complaining about not having this set now.

[Serancha]

I see everyone posting for STS to do this or that so that they can get easy insignias... What about the people who have worked all this time since the expansion to get the set? How fair is it going to be to us if you guys get a easy pass on insignias now? I have ran myself to death for insignias and spent a lot of gold to get this. Everyone could have done the same thing that we did and went and got it as well. But what did most do? Most went and got orc chests and sold them. If you guys get easy insignias, I believe those of us ho ran and spent gold should get easy orc chests just the same as you guys so that we can make gold also. So you have to look at this from both sides before you start complaining about not having this set now.

Elite means "not" easy by default. Nobody is asking for easy ways to get them, they are asking for different ways to be made available so it is both fair and not mind-numbingly dull. Running the same one or two maps 1000 times is not fun. It's a game, it is supposed to be fun.

Also not fun: getting 0 loot while you watch everyone else get multiple drops. Asking for a way for work to be rewarded, that doesn't rely 100% on the loot system, doesn't mean asking for it to be easy. They made a system for planar chests that would work for this.

[Edward Coug]

I see everyone posting for STS to do this or that so that they can get easy insignias... What about the people who have worked all this time since the expansion to get the set? How fair is it going to be to us if you guys get a easy pass on insignias now? I have ran myself to death for insignias and spent a lot of gold to get this. Everyone could have done the same thing that we did and went and got it as well. But what did most do? Most went and got orc chests and sold them. If you guys get easy insignias, I believe those of us ho ran and spent gold should get easy orc chests just the same as you guys so that we can make gold also. So you have to look at this from both sides before you start complaining about not having this set now.

Actually, a lot us are just asking for clearer communication in the future, especially considering that this very thing was asked about when the Orcslaying quest was first introduced.

I'm against doing anything to increase insignias. It would be one less thing for players to farm. I wouldn't be opposed to doing a double Orc Tag event. I already have most of the tags I need, but the players who bought Orcish chests instead of Nomerite ingots got a raw deal. It should have been clear from the start that this quest led to the mythic quest. Kudos to Twoxc for calling it. I just think it's silly to have a daily quest tied to something like this.

[Gracepreacher]

The quest was very straightforward. It said, do this, get this. Very simple indeed. What did most do? They went and made gold off the tags instead. So they would benefit since they didn't do the quest? How unfair is that? I had to run these maps 1000s of times while I watched others doing arena or running km3. I'm just saying they should leave the quests and tags just like they are. It can be done in about a month if someone is dedicated to it. If not, there are other things you can do in this game besides get mythic equipment. Don't make this new system unfair to the people who did all the quests the way they were intended to be done.

[Oursizes]

The quest was very straightforward. It said, do this, get this. Very simple indeed. What did most do? They went and made gold off the tags instead. So they would benefit since they didn't do the quest? How unfair is that? I had to run these maps 1000s of times while I watched others doing arena or running km3. I'm just saying they should leave the quests and tags just like they are. It can be done in about a month if someone is dedicated to it. If not, there are other things you can do in this game besides get mythic equipment. Don't make this new system unfair to the people who did all the quests the way they were intended to be done.
It indeed was very straightforward,EXCEPT!!! For the fact that NO WHERE WAS IT MENTIONED that we would need the orc set for the glintstone set. People have been asking for weeks and we just get a response this morning. That is clearly a lack of communication there. If it was mentioned in the first place, many people would have farmed first for insignias and nomerite ingots. We were never informed about this in the first place. You cannot blame the players for something that sts never informed them about. Not trying to be harsh here bud but at the very least, 70-85% of the game population did not have the luxury of being able to have their own nekro or arcane ring,hence why they farmed km3 arena and orc chests.

[Edward Coug]

The quest was very straightforward. It said, do this, get this. Very simple indeed. What did most do? They went and made gold off the tags instead. So they would benefit since they didn't do the quest? How unfair is that? I had to run these maps 1000s of times while I watched others doing arena or running km3. I'm just saying they should leave the quests and tags just like they are. It can be done in about a month if someone is dedicated to it. If not, there are other things you can do in this game besides get mythic equipment. Don't make this new system unfair to the people who did all the quests the way they were intended to be done.

The orc tag part doesn't require much effort. The thing is, you can only get a set number of tags a day. That's the problem with tying something to a daily quest.

And the orcslaying quest was not straightforward. Straightforward would have been: "The Orcslaying quest is necessary to access the Mythic quest." Since the ingredient list for the mythic set was released and the orcslaying gear did not appear on it, one would naturally assume that it wasn't necessary.

[Gracepreacher]

Well not trying to be harsh here either "bud", but I don't have nekro, I just got my ring because I farmed for teeth ALOT. I just did what the quest told me to do and spent a lot of gold, while others made gold off the chests they decided to get instead. If they would have done as I did, they would have a set as well. Instead I get to read how people don't want to go earn it, they should be given it instead.... I can blame them because if they wanted it, do the quest! Its not too late, its still available. Go do it! Why should one person do all the work for something while another gets to sit back and have it handed to them? Yes, there are only a set number of tags a day. That's why I am just now finishing my set. I didn't do it in one day either. Yes the quests may not be necessary, but neither is the mythic gear.

[grzena1982]

I cannot even fathom how this has not been properly announced in the relevant section of forum, but came out as a response to this thread.

[eugene9707]

The quest was very straightforward. It said, do this, get this. Very simple indeed. What did most do? They went and made gold off the tags instead. So they would benefit since they didn't do the quest? How unfair is that? I had to run these maps 1000s of times while I watched others doing arena or running km3. I'm just saying they should leave the quests and tags just like they are. It can be done in about a month if someone is dedicated to it. If not, there are other things you can do in this game besides get mythic equipment. Don't make this new system unfair to the people who did all the quests the way they were intended to be done.

It's not like we didn't do quest because we want to make money.
The thing is, forager/supreme are around 230k total (at least for me as a mage anyways), and have better stats than orcslayer set.

So why would someone spend the extra gold and effort to get something that's subpar to something cheaper?
I was actually going to go for the orcslayer gear until i notice that the stats are inferior to the forager/supreme.
I might as well farm 23 insignia and sell them for 10k each and get something even better than what i would get for spending 45 insignia.

If we know the quest is mandatory, we would've actually save the insignia instead of selling them thinking it's useless.
And that's what we are asking for, better communication.

Also, remember that essence we get when we upgrade the old mythic set ?
How would you fell if they tell you right now that it's an ingredient for the new mythic set? I'm sure most players deleted them already

[Trojan2100]

I see everyone posting for STS to do this or that so that they can get easy insignias... What about the people who have worked all this time since the expansion to get the set? How fair is it going to be to us if you guys get a easy pass on insignias now? I have ran myself to death for insignias and spent a lot of gold to get this. Everyone could have done the same thing that we did and went and got it as well. But what did most do? Most went and got orc chests and sold them. If you guys get easy insignias, I believe those of us ho ran and spent gold should get easy orc chests just the same as you guys so that we can make gold also. So you have to look at this from both sides before you start complaining about not having this set now.

You got that right !! I made few thread asking StS if we need this quest to get mythic quest , I didn't get enough support and nobody really seemed to care at that time . They can complain all they want nothing will change . Good news is still plenty of time to save up before elite release . I am relieved my hard work paid off .

[Gracepreacher]

It's not like we didn't do quest because we want to make money.
The thing is, forager/supreme are around 230k total (at least for me as a mage anyways), and have better stats than orcslayer set.

So why would someone spend the extra gold and effort to get something that's subpar to something cheaper?
I was actually going to go for the orcslayer gear until i notice that the stats are inferior to the forager/supreme.
I might as well farm 23 insignia and sell them for 10k each and get something even better than what i would get for spending 45 insignia.

If we know the quest is mandatory, we would've actually save the insignia instead of selling them thinking it's useless.
And that's what we are asking for, better communication.

Also, remember that essence we get when we upgrade the old mythic set ?
How would you fell if they tell you right now that it's an ingredient for the new mythic set? I'm sure most players deleted them already

The quests are not mandatory. The game will keep right on going whether you do them or not. Like you said, you sold insignias and bought what you wanted. I did not, as a matter of fact, I spent a small fortune amassing many insignias,maybe a few from you?

[Edward Coug]

You got that right !! I made few thread asking StS if we need this quest to get mythic quest , I didn't get enough support and nobody really seemed to care at that time . They can complain all they want nothing will change . Good news is still plenty of time to save up before elite release . I am relieved my hard work paid off .

Just because you were lucky enough to guess right doesn't mean that this wasn't poorly handled by STG. I emphasize the word guess. This should not have required a guess.

[Hectororius]

I think everyone can agree on that the gear needs to be more relevant to justify the time and gold people need to invest in creating it.

As for adding a quest for insignias, it wouldn't be fair for the rest. It was quite possible to sell some chests and save up enough tags for nomerite at this point. We are forgetting that elites could almost a month out still, giving plenty of time to farm the set before elites drop.

[Oursizes]

I think everyone can agree on that the gear needs to be more relevant to justify the time and gold people need to invest in creating it.

As for adding a quest for insignias, it wouldn't be fair for the rest. It was quite possible to sell some chests and save up enough tags for nomerite at this point. We are forgetting that elites could almost a month out still, giving plenty of time to farm the set before elites drop.

Thing is drop rates in this game are a joke. A party member can do 10 runs and loot 10 insignias and another can do 50 runs and loot none. Which is why people are asking for a daily for insignias, so we wont walk out empty handed(remember,this is similar to what some plat spenders asked for with the crate token system am i right?). So why should one have to work harder to get less? For example, if you and a friend run km3 with lep and luck lix, both do 20 runs lets say. Your friend loots 12 locks out of 20 runs and you loot not a single lock. Would this seem just? No. Now switch out locks with insignia and km3 with rengol maps. Theres many viewpoints in this argument. To be honest none of these arguments would have occured if stg was better at communicating with us from the get-go. It"s been what, nearly a month, maybe more now? And they didn't inform us of this?

[Ebezaanec]

The quest was very straightforward. It said, do this, get this. Very simple indeed. What did most do? They went and made gold off the tags instead. So they would benefit since they didn't do the quest? How unfair is that? I had to run these maps 1000s of times while I watched others doing arena or running km3. I'm just saying they should leave the quests and tags just like they are. It can be done in about a month if someone is dedicated to it. If not, there are other things you can do in this game besides get mythic equipment. Don't make this new system unfair to the people who did all the quests the way they were intended to be done.

The quest is obviously straightforward, but it was not communicated that it was not a stand-alone quest. Unfair is not telling everyone info from the get go. With a month of teasers, they couldn't squeeze in a sentence about the set?

Speaking of intentions, everything begins with good intentions but look what happened here.

[Energizeric]

Thing is drop rates in this game are a joke. A party member can do 10 runs and loot 10 insignias and another can do 50 runs and loot none. Which is why people are asking for a daily for insignias, so we wont walk out empty handed(remember,this is similar to what some plat spenders asked for with the crate token system am i right?). So why should one have to work harder to get less? For example, if you and a friend run km3 with lep and luck lix, both do 20 runs lets say. Your friend loots 12 locks out of 20 runs and you loot not a single lock. Would this seem just? No. Now switch out locks with insignia and km3 with rengol maps. Theres many viewpoints in this argument. To be honest none of these arguments would have occured if stg was better at communicating with us from the get-go. It"s been what, nearly a month, maybe more now? And they didn't inform us of this?

It's called "random" and that is how it works.

[Ebezaanec]

It's called "random" and that is how it works.

Too bad there wasn't an Elite grinding quest that required a high number of ingredients that were guaranteed in each run.

Too bad... Maybe in a different game...

[Serancha]

Instead I get to read how people don't want to go earn it, they should be given it instead.... I can blame them because if they wanted it, do the quest! Its not too late, its still available. Go do it! Why should one person do all the work for something while another gets to sit back and have it handed to them?

That's the thing. Nobody wanted the Orcslayer gear because the stats are total crap. So there was no point in players doing the quest. The fact that the information is only being released now is the main problem.

As for any requests - not one person has asked for anything to be "handed to them".

As for a quest or vendor to get insignia from, I believe the suggestion was to be able to get one insignia for 10 bosses killed. That isn't making it easier, it is just preventing people from getting screwed by the loot system. They did this with the planar chests and nobody found it "easy" to get them. They have also done it with crates by adding crate tokens. This doesn't make it "easy" to get an arcane item - it just ensures that your money isn't completely wasted. My time is more valuable than money, and I don't appreciate having it completely wasted. People wish to make progress towards a goal when they play - for some that is next to impossible with the drop system the way it is now.

The people making requests or suggestions are providing feedback on what would keep players engaged in the game, and provide interesting and stimulating gameplay. Running the same map 1000 times isn't fun or interesting. Many of us would prefer to run harder maps in a larger variety, hence the request for insignia to drop from ELITE bosses. This is actually more of a challenge than what you did.

[MissVy]

I've always thought that this is the quest line for mythic set as it says in this post: http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?225145-Rage-of-the-Ren-gol-Sneak-Peak-Crafted-Gear

137792

see how it says "Next"

^_^

x

[Kingofninjas]

I've always thought that this is the quest line for mythic set as it says in this post: http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?225145-Rage-of-the-Ren-gol-Sneak-Peak-Crafted-Gear

137792

see how it says "Next"

^_^

x

Don't take things out of context. The next meant next on the list of craft able items that we are to see, not next as in the next step of the process.

[Haligali]

can we have a sticky on this thread at least?

[twoxc]

can we have a sticky on this thread at least?

yea sticky it, unless the event is like next week, then sticky would help lots of other casual forumer that don't really click and browse through thread wouldn't miss this. It is indeed a very important message.

[Oursizes]

Wouldve been better if a mod themselves couldve made a diff thread CLEARLY explaining that we need to do the orcslaying quest to do myth quest, and then stickying just that. There's too many comments in this thread and some people will just get lazy clicking through pages.

[Edward Coug]

I've always thought that this is the quest line for mythic set as it says in this post: http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?225145-Rage-of-the-Ren-gol-Sneak-Peak-Crafted-Gear

137792

see how it says "Next"

^_^

x

That's not clear at all. Next could have meant any number of things.

However, if you print the post and put it under a black light the following message appears:

"WARNING: THE ORCSLAYING QUEST IS REQUIRED TO ACCESS THE MYTHIC QUEST."

I guess we should have known.

[Fibus]

Going to close this thread up. Feel free to continue discussion in the tread below.

http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?255316-Ren-gol-Mythic-Gear-and-How-to-Get-It