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oekeone

08-19-2015, 11:02 AM

Candylicks

08-19-2015, 11:14 AM

Wait a second, so you are mad the locked are so cheap? Lol. But it's OK for arcane items to be worth nothing right?

Edward Coug

08-19-2015, 11:22 AM

Well i wanted to say that unfortunately the rengol crates have gone down to 8k-9k this isn't enough for us farmers to go farming since elixers cost 11k and we barely get 9k out of crates we invest our own money to it :( but well that's how it is and if your not to happy of farming crates well there's something else ima make a new guide of farming eggs!!! Later!!

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The price of luck elixirs will go down as the price of locks goes down. We used to farm locks for 5k each and buy luck elixirs for 8.5k. You can still make gold, just not as much. And this was when arcanes were incredibly expensive.

There are two ways to raise the price of locks:

1) Make liquidation fees for arcane items so they won't sell so cheap.

or

2) Reduce the drop frequency of locks.

I don't think you'd be in favor of either. Without new loot in locks, the prices were bound to drop. The lack of good loot in the new locks really hurt prices. Players like me were hoarding to craft event locks but found it wasn't worth it this time around.

Candylicks

08-19-2015, 11:25 AM

That's right Edward gets it. Don't expect to cash in huge off lock farming because it doesn't reflect the economy. Same thing for plat players. The purse is smaller for everyone now.

Oursizes

08-19-2015, 12:01 PM

It could still be at 11 or 12k if you annihilate all those auto levelers undercutting locks by 500g each.

Kharjojo

08-19-2015, 12:46 PM

Wait a second, so you are mad the locked are so cheap? Lol. But it's OK for arcane items to be worth nothing right?

It's not a matter of the "farmers" how much the plat user/lockeds "poppers" sells the arcane they might loot in crates, my guess.
Btw i agree completely with the idea to put new and valuable stuffs into the ren-lockeds! This way both farmers and "poppers" will be happy.
The example of the the leaf locked is perfect to show how much the loots reflects the lockeds price.

Candylicks

08-19-2015, 12:48 PM

Oursizes

08-19-2015, 12:54 PM

It's not a matter of the "farmers" how much the plat user/lockeds "poppers" sells the arcane they might loot in crates, my guess.
Btw i agree completely with the idea to put new and valuable stuffs into the ren-lockeds! This way both farmers and "poppers" will be happy.
The example of the the leaf locked is perfect to show how much the loots reflects the lockeds price.

Thing is the new loot will drop by 50% in price overnight. Did you see those players undercutting shards and fossils by 100k a piece? Some guy even undercut hj by 1mil. Tyrannica was undercut by 1m by 2 different people. Its not a matter of the loot as of yet, but a matter of the fact that people cannot count or just type random numbers less than the lowest price. I assure you prices would be higher if they were not undercut to this point.

Kharjojo

08-19-2015, 01:21 PM

Thing is the new loot will drop by 50% in price overnight. Did you see those players undercutting shards and fossils by 100k a piece? Some guy even undercut hj by 1mil. Tyrannica was undercut by 1m by 2 different people. Its not a matter of the loot as of yet, but a matter of the fact that people cannot count or just type random numbers less than the lowest price. I assure you prices would be higher if they were not undercut to this point.

I completely agree with you on this and unfortunately there's nothing we can do abt it.
Maybe decreasing the loots of very valuable stuff (as arcanes not so long ago lol) in the looting table, but it's a big maybe.

Oursizes

08-19-2015, 01:30 PM

I completely agree with you on this and unfortunately there's nothing we can do abt it.
Maybe decreasing the loots of very valuable stuff (as arcanes not so long ago lol) in the looting table, but it's a big maybe.

As soon as the 1% find out from their buds they will drive prices back to 30mil+ for every fossil nekro shard and ring. Its a secret society that controls the market. Im actually happy that the auto levelers drove prices down to a more realistic figure.

Kharjojo

08-19-2015, 01:34 PM

As soon as the 1% find out from their buds they will drive prices back to 30mil+ for every fossil nekro shard and ring. Its a secret society that controls the market. Im actually happy that the auto levelers drove prices down to a more realistic figure.

Lol :D well not so low, "in medio stat virtus" Aristotele's said.. just find a middle way! I don't want the plat whales or plat farmers rule the cs again :)

Bigboyblue

08-19-2015, 02:27 PM

This is always inevitable. Locks only contain so much gear and as we have seen, all of it is diving in price. There is usually an immediate rush to pop locks when new items are added and once that fizzles the prices drop also.

For the reward inside locks aren't worth spending 10k each and never really were this expansion. I've been sitting on some plat and might consider popping some locks when they are worth 2k a piece. It could take a while to reach that point but it will come. Remember locks use to be worth 2k each and that was when you could loot a shard or fossil worth 50 - 80 mil.

As a side note it certainly doesn't help that you can still loot the dreaded fang/lunar/doom. Why STS had not removed these from the drop table is beyond me. Imagine looting one of these when popping a massive lock that you just paid 100k for. I'd rather take my wife to that chick flick she wants to see. Only looting the amulet would make me cry though. . . honest.

nelson131

08-20-2015, 02:54 AM

talk to the ppl undercutting mad. some guy listed a elo belt of assault for 40k while all other belts were 160k plus u....the price crashed by 50k in a day....

Newcomx

08-20-2015, 03:26 AM

2 weekend event, a lot of locked opener busy with the event, so the demand for locked is decreasing plus a lot of locked ren looted from boss in the event and that's makes supply increasing. Low demand and high supply equal to decreasing of locked price.

Oursizes

08-20-2015, 05:24 PM

talk to the ppl undercutting mad. some guy listed a elo belt of assault for 40k while all other belts were 160k plus u....the price crashed by 50k in a day....

Ive seen a grand fire elo belt for like 333k and someone undercuts and lists a reg one for 222k and then someone list for 150k gg. Many auto levelers arent so bright, unfortunately.

Edward Coug

08-20-2015, 06:38 PM

Ive seen a grand fire elo belt for like 333k and someone undercuts and lists a reg one for 222k and then someone list for 150k gg. Many auto levelers arent so bright, unfortunately.

If players undercut something by too much, buy it and sell it for more. It's free gold. That's what I do.

Trojan2100

08-20-2015, 07:27 PM

Put gold option to open locks . Problem solved :) price will rise , everyone will make gold , demand for locks will be higher.
Every time I put up a solution Plat users complain how Sts will money. For one that is not our problem so stop pretending to work for Sts. Two stop using Sts as an excuse to hold ppl back from getting ahead . Just because you spend your lunch money on platinum does not give you a voice here

Candylicks

08-20-2015, 07:43 PM

Just because you spend your lunch money on platinum does not give you a voice here

Yes actually it does.

Anyone who has a forum account has a voice!

Oursizes

08-20-2015, 11:15 PM

If players undercut something by too much, buy it and sell it for more. It's free gold. That's what I do.

By then its been undercut by 50billion players

nelson131

08-21-2015, 05:54 AM

By then its been undercut by 50billion players

yup, exactedly....and that item is hard as f*** to sell. i fortunately sold all my belts an hour before they dropped to 90k....

Diggdugg

08-21-2015, 08:09 AM

For one that is not our problem so stop pretending to work for Sts. Two stop using Sts as an excuse to hold ppl back from getting ahead . Just because you spend your lunch money on platinum does not give you a voice here

1. Yes it is our problem it's everyone's problem. Every suggestion brought forward has been to help revitalize the game nobody wants to see this game become like pocket legends.
2. So what you are saying is only people who do not buy platinum are allowed to speak in the forum because you are what better than everyone else? I've bought limited platinum in this game and I see the points the plat users are making, they are not asking for the old days but to add value back to items and gear so the economy stays stable, the economy is dying.

Oursizes

08-21-2015, 10:58 AM

Edward Coug

08-21-2015, 11:18 AM

1. Yes it is our problem it's everyone's problem. Every suggestion brought forward has been to help revitalize the game nobody wants to see this game become like pocket legends.
2. So what you are saying is only people who do not buy platinum are allowed to speak in the forum because you are what better than everyone else? I've bought limited platinum in this game and I see the points the plat users are making, they are not asking for the old days but to add value back to items and gear so the economy stays stable, the economy is dying.

I know everyone is saying that everything is cheap now. That's not exactly true. Jewels and gems are crazy expensive. I think this is what STG has in mind for narrowing the gap. The hardcore players can still have an edge with gems and jewels.

Plat whales can still make gold with plat, through ankhs and luck elixirs, etc. (and wait for better events and new arcane pets to open locks). They might not make as much gold, but the gold they do make goes further than it ever did.

Oursizes

08-21-2015, 02:51 PM

I know everyone is saying that everything is cheap now. That's not exactly true. Jewels and gems are crazy expensive. I think this is what STG has in mind for narrowing the gap. The hardcore players can still have an edge with gems and jewels.

Plat whales can still make gold with plat, through ankhs and luck elixirs, etc. (and wait for better events and new arcane pets to open locks). They might not make as much gold, but the gold they do make goes further than it ever did.

Pretty much this. Sts wants to give players a better chance of competing with plat whales and such. Now jewels/gems are the new "gear gap". Though its not as large of a gap. Now more people are enjoying endgame pve and pvp. Heck, ive seen some regular rogues without a ring or nekro kill rogues with ring and/or nekro! Things like this make people proud of what they have done and makes them want to log back in and keep playing. While we have plat whales complaining about prices, theres hundreds, thousand(s) of players enjoying playing the game now.

Ravager

08-21-2015, 02:56 PM

Pretty much this. Sts wants to give players a better chance of competing with plat whales and such. Now jewels/gems are the new "gear gap". Though its not as large of a gap. Now more people are enjoying endgame pve and pvp. Heck, ive seen some regular rogues without a ring or nekro kill rogues with ring and/or nekro! Things like this make people proud of what they have done and makes them want to log back in and keep playing. While we have plat whales complaining about prices, theres hundreds, thousand(s) of players enjoying playing the game now.

I would want to agree, but for endgame, I see PVP is dead most of the time. On a given day, it's the same 10'ish people. For PVE, it's off and on dead. People just doing dailies then idling or logging off.

Edward Coug

08-21-2015, 03:19 PM

I would want to agree, but for endgame, I see PVP is dead most of the time. On a given day, it's the same 10'ish people. For PVE, it's off and on dead. People just doing dailies then idling or logging off.

I think a lot of that has to do with Ursoth. After so much build up, it was a letdown. A lot of players were hoping for mythic weapons or a version of SnS.

It also has to do with the lack of new elites. As it stands, there really isn't a reason for PvE players to have the best gear.

Oursizes

08-21-2015, 03:21 PM

I would want to agree, but for endgame, I see PVP is dead most of the time. On a given day, it's the same 10'ish people. For PVE, it's off and on dead. People just doing dailies then idling or logging off.
Many people were busy running the event. I think that more people will pve and pvp when theres no events going on. As far as pve, weve had many people running new maps, elite wilds, and arena the past few days. A lot of members were running for lb as well. Also school is about to start so it may explain why people wont be on too much now.

Ebezaanec

08-21-2015, 09:07 PM

The system of rare loot in AL has always baffled me for as long as I can remember.

Traditionally, the mythics/arcanes were restricted to locks and anyone who wanted one either had to sink tons of money or farm like crazy to buy them. Now mythics are completely farmable with the exception that the Ren'gol runes comes in a chest, another "free" lock crate.

Why not just put the necessary ingredients in the locks and have them farmable as well? IMO, plat should be a time-saver, not a necessity. Players should be given the option to obtain the set for free, provided that they dedicate their time. As this is a free-2-play game and STG needs to pay the bills, players should also be able to "speed" up their gameplay, but not obtain absolute advantage.

Speaking of mythics and arcanes, why is there such a small number of mythic and arcanes to choose from? An MMO stresses player choices. It's non-linear. Following the reasoning, why are there Best-in-Slot items? If there are any, it should only be superior because of procs and certain stats, not because it's the only one that exists. There's no choice there.

Just some of my suggestions:

—More mythics/arcanes (like the Imbued sets): Don't focus on sets too much. Players should mix n' match pieces of their gear that best suits their needs. This would create more diversity in gear choices.

—More complex crafting system: one that requires the salvaging of certain rarities. Example: This set requires players to gather 10 Legendary essences, which are obtained from salvaging Elite legendaries not crate pinks. This system would reduce the supply of gear circulating in the economy (prevent oversaturation) and would maintain prices suitable for farming.

—Put mythics/arcanes in the loot tables for Elite bosses in the future. It would be hard enough to reroll from a legendary to a mythic and from mythic to arcane, but if value becomes an issue then just put them into a separate loot table. One that cannot be accessed through rerolls. I feel that this pseudo-system of putting things into Elite chests is just disheartening for players.

Just my two cents.

warriorromio

08-22-2015, 12:16 PM

Just a simple thought
By increasing the arcaen items price lock price will increase...
So its good not to launch the new arcane items ..
But use them as crafting materials..
Like use arcane shard for upgrading old arcane gears...
it will increase the price of arcane item again..
Make arcane ring upgrade to level 46 by crafting material of 1-4 rengole rune + arcane shard + ring for level 46 arcane ring that will also give set bonous
Arcane shard price will increase...
Use arcane fossil to upgrade some old arcane pets..
eggs+ fossil for new upgrade old arcane pets..
Fossil price will increase and we will see more usefull items and pets in pve/pvp both and get new things for counter them..
I mean it will keep those items price on top cause we will have lots of things to craft..
And by upgrading old items sts also dont need to take so much stresss...
I mean eassy for there programers..
Also can upgrade old mythics with a new exclusive mythic crafting material...
it will increase lots of work for farmers..
Arcane price will increase and also..
Locked price will increase...
Just a sugestion think about it and try to consider it devs if you are checking the threads continously