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Candylicks
09-14-2015, 12:39 PM
I am really at a crossroads with the mythic set and I was curious as to what YOU were planning on doing. As you know I main a rogue now and had planned to make the full mythic set. I went ahead and bought tons of runes and fangs and really just need to do the orc tags. I finished the underwhelming mythic helm over the weekend, yeah it's got more armor but I had to spend a FORTUNE on gems (and an eye :/) to make it decent above my imbued helm. No less than 7m in jewels.

I don't really PvP anymore, the current elite maps are still pretty boring and aren't hard (sorry but they aren't... ).

I sort of feel like saying well forget it, selling off all those runes and fangs and stocking up gold for the new arcane pet and mythic weapon at this point.

I am frustrated because I am forced to make TWO horrible pieces of gear I will never use (ring/amulet) and the set bonus is traps. Guess what? Traps blow atm especially in elite Ren when they do indeed draw in a mob it makes it take longer because you can't find the healer or the gladiator. Will I really ever wear the entire set, I think not.

So tell me. Should I push through and make the whole set or stop at the helm and pile up gold for the real good which is Stampy and upgraded weapon. Those elite zones are really eh with no drops and the monotony.. oh man.

On another note, the jewels are fun but they are also frustrating. 7M for a single noble... If the mythic stats were better then you wouldn't feel so hurried to get to noble, but again they underwhelm me right now.

Give me some ideas here.

Candylicks
09-14-2015, 12:43 PM
Another annoying addition... the fact that we are STILL RELIANT ON EYES AND PARA GEMS

Is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FRUSTRATING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I wish to the heavens that they would take another looksie at jewels so we can seriously not give a flying frisbee about those old gems anymore.

mesalin
09-14-2015, 12:53 PM
You should stick with imbu and don't waste gold on making this set :/
I also sold my few fangs and insi. I didn't even made orc legendary helm. Lol
Just save for new mythic wep/ pet:)
Like you said set bonus is useless. That's why i gave up on this and
Started farm planar pend now:)

Tabeer Amin
09-14-2015, 12:59 PM
The only thing is, its worth 250 APS
For which people will craft full set.

xmami
09-14-2015, 01:03 PM
Lol like mesalin said...I haven't finished my legendary orc helm either. I just have 4 ingots sucking up inventory space. I have a rune, orc fang, two insignias (i will save for a rainy day lol) Anyways, I haven't gotten as far as you, so I wouldn't know how you feel. But I think you should take a break and save up. You can always finish the mythic set later. And by the time you're ready to finish they probably will have worked out the kinks and buffs. :)

Imsofancy
09-14-2015, 01:08 PM
If for no other reason, then you should craft it purely for the reason of bragging rights.

Motherless_Child
09-14-2015, 01:22 PM
I am really at a crossroads with the mythic set and I was curious as to what YOU were planning on doing. As you know I main a rogue now and had planned to make the full mythic set. I went ahead and bought tons of runes and fangs and really just need to do the orc tags. I finished the underwhelming mythic helm over the weekend, yeah it's got more armor but I had to spend a FORTUNE on gems (and an eye :/) to make it decent above my imbued helm. No less than 7m in jewels.

I don't really PvP anymore, the current elite maps are still pretty boring and aren't hard (sorry but they aren't... ).

I sort of feel like saying well forget it, selling off all those runes and fangs and stocking up gold for the new arcane pet and mythic weapon at this point.

I am frustrated because I am forced to make TWO horrible pieces of gear I will never use (ring/amulet) and the set bonus is traps. Guess what? Traps blow atm especially in elite Ren when they do indeed draw in a mob it makes it take longer because you can't find the healer or the gladiator. Will I really ever wear the entire set, I think not.

So tell me. Should I push through and make the whole set or stop at the helm and pile up gold for the real good which is Stampy and upgraded weapon. Those elite zones are really eh with no drops and the monotony.. oh man.

On another note, the jewels are fun but they are also frustrating. 7M for a single noble... If the mythic stats were better then you wouldn't feel so hurried to get to noble, but again they underwhelm me right now.

Give me some ideas here.

They have our minds like this:
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Dex Scene
09-14-2015, 01:34 PM
Iam more concern about the jewels.
We have been telling sts since forever WE NEED A REPLACEMENT FOR PARA AND EYE GEMS for godsake

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Ipoopsy
09-14-2015, 01:42 PM
The Answer is YES. It's human nature.

Dex Scene
09-14-2015, 01:49 PM
I think it is a work in progress...

Keeping twink damages normal is why the jewels have a level system, keeping people logging in throughout the year will probably mean annual events with a signature "replacement for para and eye gems" jewel.
I even once made a thread to hand them a suggestion.
what if the first fortified chaos jewel gives the first para bonus which don't stack with para bonus.
They didn't mind to response there.
let's see :/

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Candylicks
09-14-2015, 02:16 PM
I think they said they won't ever introduce gems like para and eyes again and will wait for them to cycle out of the game. But the problem is people who are maxed with eyes and para will still be superior to the new mythic set with jewels. That truly makes no sense.

Spell
09-14-2015, 02:31 PM
I planned on crafting the set but after seeing the amulet and ring.....man do they have some bad stats :(
The worst part is if u just want the armor and helm u WILL be forced to craft the ring nd amulet first!.
Idk why the ring/amulet are so weak .-. Using the amulet alone would reduce your toons hp by alot...needless to say with the ring also...

On another note why does the ring take just about the same amount of crafting materials as the helm... :c

Candylicks
09-14-2015, 02:33 PM
I planned on crafting the set but after seeing the amulet and ring.....man do they have some bad stats :(
The worst part is if u just want the armor and helm u WILL be forced to craft the ring nd amulet first!.
Idk why the ring/amulet are so weak .-. Using the amulet alone would reduce your toons hp by alot...needless to say with the ring also...

On another note why does the ring take just about the same amount of crafting materials as the helm... :c

Yeah i can't stand this part either.... so I am trying to decide if it's worth it to craft two items that will rot in stash for the armor or just sell off my remaining runes and fangs and call it a day.

carmine_blade
09-14-2015, 03:22 PM
I'm not crafting the set. I've just been selling off insignia, fangs and runes.

I truly do appreciate STS's efforts to reduce the gap between max and not-maxed gear, I just think they may have gotten the balance off with this mythic set. Given it should be the best gear of the whole expansion (meaning better than event gear too), it's just not awesome enough to warrant the effort. Only the arcane ring should stay top of the game because, well, it's arcane lol.

Jewels are the other sticking point. As others have said, eyes and paras won't be phased out while the gear they're in continues to trump new gear, and while there is no jewel that even comes close. That said, I'm curious what jewels will be available in upcoming events- I see no reason why a craftable event jewel that's similar to an eye couldn't be crafted. Or noble jewel rewards.

Edward Coug
09-14-2015, 03:26 PM
I'm just getting the helmet, which is the only piece of the set that will represent any kind of any upgrade for me. Really, I don't need an upgrade. I could actually sell all my gear and just stick with pinks and be fine, but chasing stats is a reason for me to keep playing.

I think traps are actually very useful in the new maps. I don't really need razor shield, and I find that I can still get to the shaman just fine when the traps retract. The only problem is when they retract and pull mobs too far so they reset.

I think the difficulty is much better now (the giants are simply unfair because they are glitched), but the bosses still are boring. The bosses are what kept players from finishing planar tombs. These bosses won't stop anyone and require little strategy.

Candylicks
09-14-2015, 03:49 PM
That's the rest of it ed. The stupid glitched mobs that reset after being pulled in traps. And truly the mobs simply aren't dense enough to warrant even using them...

Some of us have been messing around with sss. It might be the best option for rogue in elites.

Ardbeg
09-14-2015, 03:53 PM
am i the only one who is excited for the tripple axe throw? anyways since crafting is the theme of this seasons it can t hurt to do the dailies, stash some crafting materials and make the decision later. who knows what else the ingredients will be good for?
at least the myth set can t be traded, so no one can para up. it should be easy for stg to make adjustments to bring it on par with high para imbueds in effect if not in stat points.

Candylicks
09-14-2015, 04:18 PM
am i the only one who is excited for the tripple axe throw? anyways since crafting is the theme of this seasons it can t hurt to do the dailies, stash some crafting materials and make the decision later. who knows what else the ingredients will be good for?
at least the myth set can t be traded, so no one can para up. it should be easy for stg to make adjustments to bring it on par with high para imbueds in effect if not in stat points.
Yeah I'd be happy if I was a war too for that set skill bonus. Overjoyed.

Net retraction and the huge loss in overall stats for the set isn't easy to swallow.

But yeah I guess I should just do the dailies and stash for now. No sense in even making the ring or amulet.. I feel sorry for the chaps who went for ring and will be short tags now for stampy.

Tatman
09-14-2015, 04:19 PM
Another annoying addition... the fact that we are STILL RELIANT ON EYES AND PARA GEMS

Is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FRUSTRATING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I wish to the heavens that they would take another looksie at jewels so we can seriously not give a flying frisbee about those old gems anymore.
Unfortunately STS stance on this matter (gems & jewels) is absurd and completely detached from the reality in this game. They are waiting for gems to "work themselves out of the game". I mean, lol?

Kakashis
09-14-2015, 04:34 PM
I'm just farming tags just in case I do the set later. As it stands, net retraction would be pretty horrible because you can't iso the mages or the mobs you want to kill. Should a warrior be on the run, every 10 seconds he would lose aggro momentarily. Not to mention the short leashes, it's not like we can super pull mobs anymore as well, unless on older maps. I've sold my runes, but kept some fangs and insignias and am almost 500 tags. Haven't done any quest lines yet. I've done the math and this set will probably cost upwards to 80 runes + the rest? That's roughly 10m at the end of the day and I don't think set bonus or 100% traps is worth the price.

Currently I'm still rocking the 36 mythic set with Arcane ring, Planar pendent, belt, and nekro to boot. I was never this op last season and I think I'll rock this set for one more season and save my gold. Perhaps I'll buy the slaterock when it drops to 300k, but for now I'm doing elites just fine, don't pvp and so I have no reason to upgrade. I may do the set much later in the season when I have more gold, but for now no plans.

As an Elite farmer, it's not like the elites have much to run for and gold is tight. With the new set, how the heck am I supposed to pay it off xD

If I was a warrior, I would go for it as the axe ability is OP beyond belief. Skip as mage and rogue class for me though.

Jexetta
09-14-2015, 04:36 PM
I have a minor suggestion to make people a little happier with the sets :

What if the set bonus is applied as a percentage of gear worn?

Example :
Wear 4 pieces of the new mythic as a rogue and the set bonus skill is 100% retraction
3 pieces : 85% retraction
2 pieces : 70% retraction
1 piece : 55% retraction

You could apply the same for warriors or mages. Obviously the mage lightning strike wouldn't be as high for the percentage lost for percentage worn. Warriors would go down to 2 axes if you only wear two pieces, etc (can't throw half and axe lol)

That surely would help those a bit who want to still wear their arcane ring / planar amulet. Just a lil suggestion.

Oursizes
09-14-2015, 05:55 PM
I'm not crafting the set. I've just been selling off insignia, fangs and runes.

I truly do appreciate STS's efforts to reduce the gap between max and not-maxed gear, I just think they may have gotten the balance off with this mythic set. Given it should be the best gear of the whole expansion (meaning better than event gear too), it's just not awesome enough to warrant the effort. Only the arcane ring should stay top of the game because, well, it's arcane lol.

Jewels are the other sticking point. As others have said, eyes and paras won't be phased out while the gear they're in continues to trump new gear, and while there is no jewel that even comes close. That said, I'm curious what jewels will be available in upcoming events- I see no reason why a craftable event jewel that's similar to an eye couldn't be crafted. Or noble jewel rewards.

Thing is many players just crafted planar pendant right before expansion, and right after when they could actually afford recipe

Oezheasate
09-14-2015, 06:18 PM
I havent even gotten started on legendary, just collecting tags and insignias, i guess ill have to do it for the helment and armor, sigh.

Edward Coug
09-14-2015, 07:22 PM
I have a minor suggestion to make people a little happier with the sets :

What if the set bonus is applied as a percentage of gear worn?

Example :
Wear 4 pieces of the new mythic as a rogue and the set bonus skill is 100% retraction
3 pieces : 85% retraction
2 pieces : 70% retraction
1 piece : 55% retraction

You could apply the same for warriors or mages. Obviously the mage lightning strike wouldn't be as high for the percentage lost for percentage worn. Warriors would go down to 2 axes if you only wear two pieces, etc (can't throw half and axe lol)

That surely would help those a bit who want to still wear their arcane ring / planar amulet. Just a lil suggestion.

This is brilliant. It would give a much higher incentive to players to get at least one piece of the set.

supersyan
09-15-2015, 12:09 AM
I say craft the full piece. because you already @ 75% of making full set. You crafted orcslayer and now you have 2 mythic pieces. now 2 to go. Finish the set.

Darkquantum
09-15-2015, 12:26 AM
Another annoying addition... the fact that we are STILL RELIANT ON EYES AND PARA GEMS

Is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FRUSTRATING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I wish to the heavens that they would take another looksie at jewels so we can seriously not give a flying frisbee about those old gems anymore.
so true when will they listen!!!

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Newcomx
09-15-2015, 02:11 AM
I imagine new kind of rogue with this mythic set, Tank Rogue. High dodge, above average health. Using razor, veil, trap that stronger than warrior taunt in pulling mobs.

Robhawk
09-15-2015, 02:23 AM
I can tell you what i did.

I stopped crafting the orc slaying, legendary set the day when stats of the new myth gear was released. I also didn't craft the planar pendant for month because of the upcoming new myth set... so with the new myth amulet stats in mind i bought drag bar and crafted the planar pendant and with my current setup i am far better then the complete new myth setup will be.

subho
09-15-2015, 05:12 AM
mythic gears just sucks!!bcoz--
1) u have to waste a lot of gold for orcslaying gears.U could hv get a lot money by selling gold orc chest nd insignia.
2) arcane ring nd planar pendant still best.for the bonus u hv to get the total glinstone sets.

i think only fools or those who r rich will craft these gears!!!:abnormal:

Trojan2100
09-15-2015, 05:46 AM
I'm in no hurry creating mythic set myself, I'm happy farming insignia and selling them for little profit. Incase they do chance the bonus and stats hord all your tags.

debitmandiri
09-15-2015, 07:03 AM
I imagine new kind of rogue with this mythic set, Tank Rogue. High dodge, above average health. Using razor, veil, trap that stronger than warrior taunt in pulling mobs.

But lose massive amount of critical :p , not using any lv46mythic piece my dodge already 57%, same i can make 5.6-5.8k hp (trade off with dmg ? Meh ) if iwant ofc not using single of this lv46mythic, razor,trap,veil ? Omg ill lose my nox ,pierce, and SSS ! lol

Jazzi
09-15-2015, 07:25 AM
I personally am not crafting it for now. I am doing normal rengol dailies and am trying to farm the insignias myself. Got 3 total over the last 15 days of dailies with 2 toons (90 runs). With that speed I will be done with the orcslaying set around the beginning of May 2016. After that we well see, depending on the proximity of the next level cap and the general player activity, which is very low now.

I really do not see any reason to pay 20+ million (good gems/jewels + buying 50% of the ingredients) in order to gain 200 armour, but lose crit + a massive amount of health and maybe damage (if I would use the whole set).

Motherless_Child
09-15-2015, 09:48 AM
I personally am not crafting it for now. I am doing normal rengol dailies and am trying to farm the insignias myself. Got 3 total over the last 15 days of dailies with 2 toons (90 runs). With that speed I will be done with the orcslaying set around the beginning of May 2016. After that we well see, depending on the proximity of the next level cap and the general player activity, which is very low now.

I really do not see any reason to pay 20+ million (good gems/jewels + buying 50% of the ingredients) in order to gain 200 armour, but lose crit + a massive amount of health and maybe damage (if I would use the whole set).
Not going anywhere for awhile????..............LOL..........
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Sucks, but with the insignia drop rates happening the way they are we are kinda forced to buy....... This set would be a good hunt for those without the GOOD imbueds.... But I think they said more buffs coming, gotta C this......

Newcomx
09-15-2015, 11:23 AM
But lose massive amount of critical [emoji14] , not using any lv46mythic piece my dodge already 57%, same i can make 5.6-5.8k hp (trade off with dmg ? Meh ) if iwant ofc not using single of this lv46mythic, razor,trap,veil ? Omg ill lose my nox ,pierce, and SSS ! lol
I'm talking about different kind of rogue, by utilising 100% retraction and maybe hold mobs maximising dodge. You talking about mainstream rogue, with full dmg, high crits. I don't know if it's working or not until I test it myself.

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Jazzi
09-15-2015, 11:24 AM
Not going anywhere for awhile????..............LOL..........

Sucks, but with the insignia drop rates happening the way they are we are kinda forced to buy....... This set would be a good hunt for those without the GOOD imbueds.... But I think they said more buffs coming, gotta C this......

Well, I wouldn't farm the normal maps for insignias with that drop rate and paying 1,3ish million for the ones I need, in order to craft a legendary set, which cant sell and won't use is just meh. So i resort to doing the dailies only for the tags. Tbh I do have the good imbueds, but even if i didn't it is would be much cheaper to buy them than to craft this set and then to gem/jewel it, so that it is somewhat comparable.

debitmandiri
09-15-2015, 11:50 AM
I'm talking about different kind of rogue, by utilising 100% retraction and maybe hold mobs maximising dodge. You talking about mainstream rogue, with full dmg, high crits. I don't know if it's working or not until I test it myself.
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Believe me, that mainstream rogue is better than focusing on 100% trap pull and maintaining aggro x_x,
ill go with mage and use whim for 100% pulling-lock down-freeze, no ?

jorpox
09-15-2015, 01:27 PM
I quit playing AL after I heard it requires teeth to make the pendant.

Jazzi
09-15-2015, 02:11 PM
I quit playing AL after I heard it requires teeth to make the pendant.

But it doesn't. The guildie who told u that in guildchat must have been thinking about the planar pendant. I tried to explain, but u went offline very fast ;)

Avaree
09-15-2015, 02:27 PM
I am excited for the 100% net retraction with the 4 second stun. I see the advantage of having this skill especially in planar & Ren'gol elites.

Bomm
09-15-2015, 03:46 PM
I'll make it short NO ITS NOT WORTH TO CRAFT THE MYTHIC SET!!

And another point jewels.... Jewels are not worth it i mean over 10 m for one noble is so op and we need 18 jewels if you full mythic/arcane that means 180 mio for just jewels!!!! Thats crazy... I dont get why they took out gems they were a lot better and not even close that expencive!!! Only thing that is good about jewels is you can take them out of your gear but anyways its imbossilbe to farm a noble jewel.

So my solution for jewels is to make them drop everywhere in Arlor!! Like you could drop essences for gems than it would be possible to craft a noble jewel without spending over 10 mio on it!!!
I mean who can afford 180 mio or even more just for JEWELS THATS CRAZY...

Newcomx
09-15-2015, 09:28 PM
Believe me, that mainstream rogue is better than focusing on 100% trap pull and maintaining aggro x_x,
ill go with mage and use whim for 100% pulling-lock down-freeze, no ?

Mage don't have good basic defense like warrior with health and armor and rogue with dodge. They only use shield which is in limited time.

Jazzi
09-16-2015, 01:10 AM
Mage don't have good basic defense like warrior with health and armor and rogue with dodge. They only use shield which is in limited time.

Shield is up 50% of the time, which is about as much dodge a rogue has. However shield is, especially if u are somewhat geared, very much superior to dodge.

ilhanna
09-16-2015, 01:25 AM
Given that STS is making us choose between event crafting and mythic crafting (both require huge amount of tags), I'm not sure I'll be crafting Glintstone set soon if ever. And I'm not even wearing Imbued, good or mediocre.

will0
09-16-2015, 01:30 AM
Shield is up 50% of the time, which is about as much dodge a rogue has. However shield is, especially if u are somewhat geared, very much superior to dodge.

i dont think it is 50% of the time depends on what you mean 50% ...

48 mana, 30 sec cool-down, 30% damage reduction for 10 seconds / Extended Shield: Increase the amount of total damage absorbable. Also, the maximum length of the shield is increased by 5 seconds.

total shield time 15 seconds with upgrade