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Bous
10-14-2015, 02:08 PM
Thanks again Cinco, you are the man!
So I heard the level 77 vanity is still around for players that hit 76-77. Don't you think it's unfair to the players that grinded 300k exp to get it? I heard cinco say it's still obtainable. Now a player can get it after 18k exp. its not gonna be that exclusive anymore if people can get it after 18k exp.
What took 13 hours of straight grind now only takes 45 minutes to get :/

Groaning
10-14-2015, 02:09 PM
complain complain complain

heard of "pvp balance"

k thx bai

frat
10-14-2015, 02:13 PM
complain complain complain

heard of "pvp balance"

k thx bai

You don't know what it's like to grind that much because you didnt level a main to 77 when it was 300k, so don't say we're complaining. Honestly I wasted 200 bucks leveling a mage and bear to 77. I also think it is unfair.

Groaning
10-14-2015, 02:18 PM
youve had your chance now let the rest of us have one
p.s. i dont care about endgame im staying at l40

Bous
10-14-2015, 02:19 PM
complain complain complain

heard of "pvp balance"

k thx bai

Nobody even mentioned pvp. What are you talking about?

Groaning
10-14-2015, 02:29 PM
Nobody even mentioned pvp. What are you talking about?

why else would one want one?

Loganayr
10-14-2015, 02:46 PM
Bous, while it is true that nubs at pve cant understand the pain of grinding 300k,it is also true that the previous update and the 300k itself was wrong to the point of being a joke and it did turn away many pve friends i had. I capped 5 chars to 77 but i can only say good job to Cinco for putting a stop to the idiocy of spending hours in plasma or maze to get 300k.

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Suentous PO
10-14-2015, 03:53 PM
youve had your chance now let the rest of us have one
p.s. i dont care about endgame im staying at l40


^This makes no sense contrasted to his point.

I get what you mean Bous, but the flip side for me is that now my 2 piece bear that I wasn't planning on capping can easily get his 3 piece ring.

Magic Sword
10-14-2015, 03:56 PM
Not a huge deal imo no one made you cap 300k xp you did it because you wanted it then.
May as well complain 76 elites are still farmable

Shilooo
10-14-2015, 05:01 PM
New content on a game that was dead and you complain...... Thank you Cinco!

Iilhopeliliil
10-14-2015, 05:40 PM
Nobody told you to spend real money to cap, lol.

Vigilante
10-14-2015, 05:51 PM
looks like I can get myself a 3 pc :) and a Golem

Waug
10-14-2015, 09:01 PM
we should be always happy if there's - Something to gain, nothing to loose.

Who can say it may have been a motivation behind the latest update to break the 100k+300k burden, it was bad for game developers reputation.

frat
10-14-2015, 09:16 PM
New content on a game that was dead and you complain...... Thank you Cinco!

Wasting my money on a game that was supposed to have no more updates is something I deserve to be quite frustrated about. I spent 200 bucks leveling to 77 when now I can do it for free. I am grateful for the new content and I love it so far but I'm pretty pissed about that 200 bucks. I am 16 years old and 200 bucks is a lot to me. Consider yourself in my position, then talk.

frat
10-14-2015, 09:19 PM
Nobody told you to spend real money to cap, lol.

You are indeed correct, but this was supposed to be the final update for PL and I decided to cap two characters. I know Bous and I not the only one who feels like it was a waste of their money. I am not asking for a refund and this is not meant to be a rant. Just simply expressing myself.

Magic Sword
10-14-2015, 09:46 PM
I spent 200 bucks leveling to 77 when now I can do it for free.
lol you coulda done it for free then

The Sadness
10-15-2015, 06:20 AM
Fak, I'm gonna "cap" my 76 2pc Mage. Lel

77, here I come,!

frat
10-15-2015, 06:29 AM
lol you coulda done it for free then

300k xp for free? Yeah right. Nobody has the time for that.

Vigilante
10-15-2015, 04:38 PM
Wasting my money on a game that was supposed to have no more updates is something I deserve to be quite frustrated about. I spent 200 bucks leveling to 77 when now I can do it for free. I am grateful for the new content and I love it so far but I'm pretty pissed about that 200 bucks. I am 16 years old and 200 bucks is a lot to me. Consider yourself in my position, then talk.

Looks like I get to cap 10 of my characters now for 0$ :0

Felicity
10-15-2015, 05:04 PM
For those of you who didn't know this, at the release of humania cap you were able to level to 66 and still get the vanity cap for about a day and at fang it was a bit longer to cap than it is now with mega maze, so yah you put 200$ but that was your decision, they also said it was the last expansion, so why rush to cap in mega maze? You had plenty of time to do it without it and enjoy the game. Just be happy they updated it.

Apa
10-15-2015, 05:54 PM
For those of you who didn't know this, at the release of humania cap you were able to level to 66 and still get the vanity cap for about a day and at fang it was a bit longer to cap than it is now with mega maze, so yah you put 200$ but that was your decision, they also said it was the last expansion, so why rush to cap in mega maze? You had plenty of time to do it without it and enjoy the game. Just be happy they updated it.

Well said Felicity (:

frat
10-15-2015, 07:23 PM
For those of you who didn't know this, at the release of humania cap you were able to level to 66 and still get the vanity cap for about a day and at fang it was a bit longer to cap than it is now with mega maze, so yah you put 200$ but that was your decision, they also said it was the last expansion, so why rush to cap in mega maze? You had plenty of time to do it without it and enjoy the game. Just be happy they updated it.

First of all I didn't rush to cap, I capped only a month ago. You're just making assumptions. I never said I am not happy about the new update. Read what I said again, it seems that you did not read a single word I have said. "Consider yourself in my position, then talk."

Felicity
10-16-2015, 06:43 AM
First of all I didn't rush to cap, I capped only a month ago. You're just making assumptions. I never said I am not happy about the new update. Read what I said again, it seems that you did not read a single word I have said. "Consider yourself in my position, then talk."

I never said you weren't happy about it, you're unhappy about the fact that they didn't remove the vanity cap and I do understand your frustration but you seem frustrated more at the decision you took to invest instead of sts not removing the vanity for reaching 77.

I'm able to put myself in your position as I'm only 20years old and when I started this game I was in my teens and I know what the value of money is for a teen but that also shows that you're frustrated at yourself for making that investment.

Iilhopeliliil
10-16-2015, 07:32 AM
300k xp for free? Yeah right. Nobody has the time for that.

It's doable, lol, $0 used for 300k xp.

frat
10-16-2015, 09:22 AM
It's doable, lol, $0 used for 300k xp.

It's doable but nobody is willing to waste a year leveling just to get 2pc and lust sets.

frat
10-16-2015, 09:24 AM
I never said you weren't happy about it, you're unhappy about the fact that they didn't remove the vanity cap and I do understand your frustration but you seem frustrated more at the decision you took to invest instead of sts not removing the vanity for reaching 77.

I'm able to put myself in your position as I'm only 20years old and when I started this game I was in my teens and I know what the value of money is for a teen but that also shows that you're frustrated at yourself for making that investment.

Yeah I don't come from a family with a ton of money so 200 is a lot to me. I'm more frustrated at sts for saying it was the last expansion. If I knew the new expansion was coming I wouldn't have spent 200 bucks to level. I waited a year just to see if a new expansion possibly would come before I leveled. Just finished leveling a month ago which took me 3 weeks of grinding. Now a new expansion comes which irritates me. Don't get me wrong, I like the new expansion...

Reunegade
10-16-2015, 03:37 PM
Yeah I don't come from a family with a ton of money so 200 is a lot to me. I'm more frustrated at sts for saying it was the last expansion. If I knew the new expansion was coming I wouldn't have spent 200 bucks to level. I waited a year just to see if a new expansion possibly would come before I leveled. Just finished leveling a month ago which took me 3 weeks of grinding. Now a new expansion comes which irritates me. Don't get me wrong, I like the new expansion...
I mean, nothing was taken away from you. You still got your 2 piece ring, which was your objective in the first place. It's like a car's depreciation; you don't expect it to be the same face value as it was when you first bought it.

frat
10-16-2015, 08:55 PM
I mean, nothing was taken away from you. You still got your 2 piece ring, which was your objective in the first place. It's like a car's depreciation; you don't expect it to be the same face value as it was when you first bought it.

Nothing was taken away from me...... Lol. What do you call my 200 dollars being wasted then? I could've leveled 75-80 for free and still get my 2pc ring. When before I used 200 bucks to get 400k xp. Please explain how there was nothing taken away from me. No offense reun you're a cool guy but that sentence is probably the dumbest statement I've ever heard (or read in this case).

frat
10-16-2015, 08:58 PM
And don't forget that 4000 plat gone to waste when I could've used it on other things now!

Reunegade
10-17-2015, 07:25 AM
Nothing was taken away from me...... Lol. What do you call my 200 dollars being wasted then? I could've leveled 75-80 for free and still get my 2pc ring. When before I used 200 bucks to get 400k xp. Please explain how there was nothing taken away from me. No offense reun you're a cool guy but that sentence is probably the dumbest statement I've ever heard (or read in this case).
It was your (and my) decision to cap unknowing that they were going to announce a new cap. Everyone else who capped could have 'leveled to 80 for free' as well- they just chose not to for instant gratification. Sure, you could have waited, but who was to know that there would be a new cap out of the blue? If we knew, all of us would have waited for the new cap, and, in turn, would not spend any money. In that sense, nothing was taken away from you; you purchase $200 worth of platinum, with the objective of capping, and you capped. I think you are just a little bit frustrated because of a bad financial decision. Think about it, if they were going to refund everyone of their spent money capping, just because it was made easy for everyone to obtain, wouldn't that be a bit absurd? You could have chosen to cap then for a price to become instantly gratified, or you could have waited for a bizarre chance that they would make the cap easy. And what do you know, the people who have waited got lucky, and, the people who capped didn't.

Ignitedmage
10-17-2015, 08:51 AM
It's doable but nobody is willing to waste a year leveling just to get 2pc and lust sets.

my friend wasted 24hours and did it with 3x in lost valley.. :)

frat
10-17-2015, 03:10 PM
It was your (and my) decision to cap unknowing that they were going to announce a new cap. Everyone else who capped could have 'leveled to 80 for free' as well- they just chose not to for instant gratification. Sure, you could have waited, but who was to know that there would be a new cap out of the blue? If we knew, all of us would have waited for the new cap, and, in turn, would not spend any money. In that sense, nothing was taken away from you; you purchase $200 worth of platinum, with the objective of capping, and you capped. I think you are just a little bit frustrated because of a bad financial decision. Think about it, if they were going to refund everyone of their spent money capping, just because it was made easy for everyone to obtain, wouldn't that be a bit absurd? You could have chosen to cap then for a price to become instantly gratified, or you could have waited for a bizarre chance that they would make the cap easy. And what do you know, the people who have waited got lucky, and, the people who capped didn't.

Just pisses me off how sts says no more updates ever then releases another update making the cap easy. I mean that's a great way of making money on their part. Pretty intelligent businessmen, but it's still cheap for them to use their loyal players like that. I know I'm not the only one pissed off about this but I am still allowed to express how I feel.

Reunegade
10-17-2015, 04:12 PM
Just pisses me off how sts says no more updates ever then releases another update making the cap easy. I mean that's a great way of making money on their part. Pretty intelligent businessmen, but it's still cheap for them to use their loyal players like that. I know I'm not the only one pissed off about this but I am still allowed to express how I feel.
You are allowed to express how you feel, but it seems as if you are 'blaming' STG for something that you did.

frat
10-17-2015, 07:45 PM
You are allowed to express how you feel, but it seems as if you are 'blaming' STG for something that you did.

Yeah it's not meaning to come out that way. I'm just annoyed that i wasted 200 bucks.

Dolloway
10-17-2015, 07:52 PM
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Mcpastry
10-17-2015, 08:08 PM
Wasting my money on a game that was supposed to have no more updates is something I deserve to be quite frustrated about. I spent 200 bucks leveling to 77 when now I can do it for free. I am grateful for the new content and I love it so far but I'm pretty pissed about that 200 bucks. I am 16 years old and 200 bucks is a lot to me. Consider yourself in my position, then talk.
"Consider yourself in my position". Yeah, sure you can be frustrated but in the end it all comes down to your unwise decision in spending $200. Learn from it and move on, but don't start to blame STS.

I've considered myself in your position and it led me to question why you'd even think to spend that amount on a game if there was a chance you'd regret it.

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Schnitzel
10-17-2015, 08:48 PM
Alright everyone,

Some of us in the community chose to spend money and cap, saving time, some spent time and money to cap, and some saved money and spent time.
None the less, it was the player's decision to do that. No one forced you. You chose to spend cash/time to cap, so you did.

Now lets all appreciate the fact that Cinco has dedicated his time into giving PL another cap.

frat
10-17-2015, 08:59 PM
"Consider yourself in my position". Yeah, sure you can be frustrated but in the end it all comes down to your unwise decision in spending $200. Learn from it and move on, but don't start to blame STS.

I've considered myself in your position and it led me to question why you'd even think to spend that amount on a game if there was a chance you'd regret it.


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Why would I think there would be a chance I would regret it if STS said that there would be no more updates? Of course I'm going to blame STS for telling us a bunch of bs.

Dolloway
10-17-2015, 09:12 PM
K let's just get rid of the new cap then and do a rollback

Magic Sword
10-17-2015, 09:12 PM
never thought i would see the day someone got mad that PL got some new content lulz

Schnitzel
10-18-2015, 12:57 AM
Why would I think there would be a chance I would regret it if STS said that there would be no more updates? Of course I'm going to blame STS for telling us a bunch of bs.

STS said no more updates, but Cinco took time out of his busy schedule to create content with the limited amount of resources he had
So lets stop criticizing his hard work and enjoy the new cap

Also, spending money was your choice. You can't blame others for your own actions.
Back when cap levels were 100k, there were some that used money and leveled up quickly, while there were also others who waited for the next cap to advance in leveling.
I don't see many (if any) blaming STS for no more updates.


Now, again, like I've said, lets be thankful that Cinco took the time out of his busy schedule to release a new cap for us, and stop criticizing him for what he did

Reunegade
10-18-2015, 07:10 AM
K let's just get rid of the new cap then and do a rollback
save on rollbacks at walmart

frat
10-18-2015, 09:52 AM
never thought i would see the day someone got mad that PL got some new content lulz

You guys don't seem to get it. That is not the reason I am mad at all. Try re-reading everything I have said thoroughly then correct what you said.

frat
10-18-2015, 09:55 AM
STS said no more updates, but Cinco took time out of his busy schedule to create content with the limited amount of resources he had
So lets stop criticizing his hard work and enjoy the new cap

Also, spending money was your choice. You can't blame others for your own actions.
Back when cap levels were 100k, there were some that used money and leveled up quickly, while there were also others who waited for the next cap to advance in leveling.
I don't see many (if any) blaming STS for no more updates.


Now, again, like I've said, lets be thankful that Cinco took the time out of his busy schedule to release a new cap for us, and stop criticizing him for what he did

Why would I wait for leveling for a new cap that wasn't supposed to happen? You don't seem to understand.

Nowhere did I say I wasn't thankful, I am very thankful for what Cinco did. I just wish they would've given us a heads up instead of promising us no more updates.

End
10-18-2015, 01:27 PM
I kinda agree with tony, It feels unfair for those who spent ages getting 300k
There should be a way to distinguish who got where whnen

frat
10-18-2015, 03:47 PM
I kinda agree with tony, It feels unfair for those who spent ages getting 300k
There should be a way to distinguish who got where whnen

Maybe like a special vanity for those who did the 300k xp, yeah. I'd be aight with that.

anahadaz
10-18-2015, 04:13 PM
I'm loving the update, but I'm the same in the way that the 77 cap vanity should have been removed in the new cap.

frat
10-18-2015, 05:40 PM
Or how about everyone who capped 77 for 300k xp gets 3pc? That seems fair.

Basauli
10-18-2015, 07:42 PM
I payed my way to cap as I would never have capped without elixir its so discouraging and time consuming. Even now if I didn't use elixir I would never have capped this cap because 50k is a lot of xp. Once I have full elites, ill still be missing 1 last item to fill complete in this game and that's the 3pc

Magic Sword
10-18-2015, 07:47 PM
You guys don't seem to get it. That is not the reason I am mad at all. Try re-reading everything I have said thoroughly then correct what you said.

i did 300K using plat to 77 too the point im making is its really not a huge deal

Waug
10-18-2015, 08:20 PM
Why would I wait for leveling for a new cap that wasn't supposed to happen? You don't seem to understand.

Nowhere did I say I wasn't thankful, I am very thankful for what Cinco did. I just wish they would've given us a heads up instead of promising us no more updates.

ya nobody seems to understand about ur 200$ that u spent, if ur so much care about that money u would rather save it in bank and keep the documents safe rather investing in a game in the first place, it was shocking to me because I kept wondering how they did this instead of convincing so much time that there wont b even small updates, but im not unhappy for that rather its just like surprise gift. If u spent it, u had to spend it anywhere probably from 79-80 if would b 100k or more right? but ur in better positon now.

I personally believe a single person ain't behind this as it has been projected, because it just not about hard work or passion its about talking decision behalf a company, it's a business and ppls do mistakes there, they learn from the previous mistakes, if it was a big company it would not bother to say a single word and would take ultimate desicions caz they know they have (every gamw devs) provided a few page EULA to u , so that they are legally safe.

Burningdex
10-19-2015, 03:39 AM
Can we just accept that we all have different opinions and move on.... though i do agree w/ tony in the fact that its bs how people can get get 77 for a 30th of what many others did simply because there was a new update when they officially announced there wouldnt be one ever again.

Itoopeo
10-19-2015, 05:23 AM
The golem is ugly but ring is nice. And dont worry, most nubiles dont even know that they can get the ring, before it will get removed most likely.

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frat
10-19-2015, 06:20 AM
i did 300K using plat to 77 too the point im making is its really not a huge deal

200 dollars is a big deal to me and some others.

humiiii
10-19-2015, 09:29 AM
Or how about everyone who capped 77 for 300k xp gets 3pc? That seems fair.
No. Hows this fair? if you wanted 3pc you had to cap before.

ZedMaster
10-19-2015, 09:50 AM
Or how about everyone who capped 77 for 300k xp gets 3pc? That seems fair.

YEAH OKAY. In the beginning of this forum post you were complaining that people can STILL get the vanity (THE VANITY USED TO CREATE THE 2pc RING) after this update, and now you're saying that you want a 3pc ring for capping 300k before. Okay listen buddy boi, that was your decision to spend that much money on a game. STS COULD HAVE CLOSED OR SHUT DOWN THE GAME LITERALLY THE DAY AFTER WITHOUT NOTICE! Think about this, if they didn't make leveling easier, and 2pc ring was no longer available, NOBODY would make an end game character, making END GAME PVP DEAD AND EVEN PL AS A WHOLE DEAD! If END GAME PVP IS DEAD (or died down) THEN YOUR $200 INVESTMENT WOULD'VE ALSO BEEN A WASTE! We currently have no idea if there will be another update but if there is, it will bring us more content and make the game MORE ACTIVE! That's what I want, that's probably what you want (without really knowing it) and that's what the PL COMMUNITY WANTS! Please stop crying over the fact that you had to grind 300k, in previous caps you also had to grind out a CRAP TON as well. That's just how our game works. You decided to pay $200 because you wanted to cap and play end game before everyone else. YOU SHOULD'NT GET AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE IN PVP JUST BECAUSE YOU DID. AND IN MY OPINION, STS SHOULD HAVE NEVER MADE THE 3pc RING EXCLUSIVE TO THOSE WHO CAPPED EARLY BECAUSE THAT ALSO MAKES END GAME PVP UNBALANCED! If anything maybe a 77 vanity THAT ISN'T USED TO CRAFT A RING OR GIVE ANY STATS WOULD BE NICE FOR THOSE LIKE YOU WHO MADE THE COMMITMENT ON SPENDING THAT MUCH TIME and/or MONEY CAPPING 300k

Ignitedmage
10-19-2015, 10:12 AM
Ok to all those guys whose seems this thing unfair i would post for you and against you...

Yes, i have already put me in your position and i would feel disaster if i loose 200$
Yea, you feel that your plat got wasted, with money.

However, No body told you to waste 200$... now as you said alot time above that why would you wait for an update which STS told you that will never happen, well then if that was the thing then why did you used platinum with curiosity? See, as we all knew that there were no updates and STS also said they'll run this game for foreseeable future, and as a mass people were buying platinum, PL would live a long way, which meant that you had a year or two to level.
So you should had made a schedule like 5k exp a day and imo that's do-able for the haters of pve too and with that schedule 60 days = 2 months you will be 77

So no time wasted, no money wasted, and a little gold wasted to complete the schedule

AND the 5k one is an example, if you do 1k still you'll cap in an year and i am quite sure that you can play WITHOUT 2pc...

All i gotta say, enjoy the update! :)

frat
10-19-2015, 11:03 AM
YEAH OKAY. In the beginning of this forum post you were complaining that people can STILL get the vanity (THE VANITY USED TO CREATE THE 2pc RING) after this update, and now you're saying that you want a 3pc ring for capping 300k before. Okay listen buddy boi, that was your decision to spend that much money on a game. STS COULD HAVE CLOSED OR SHUT DOWN THE GAME LITERALLY THE DAY AFTER WITHOUT NOTICE! Think about this, if they didn't make leveling easier, and 2pc ring was no longer available, NOBODY would make an end game character, making END GAME PVP DEAD AND EVEN PL AS A WHOLE DEAD! If END GAME PVP IS DEAD (or died down) THEN YOUR $200 INVESTMENT WOULD'VE ALSO BEEN A WASTE! We currently have no idea if there will be another update but if there is, it will bring us more content and make the game MORE ACTIVE! That's what I want, that's probably what you want (without really knowing it) and that's what the PL COMMUNITY WANTS! Please stop crying over the fact that you had to grind 300k, in previous caps you also had to grind out a CRAP TON as well. That's just how our game works. You decided to pay $200 because you wanted to cap and play end game before everyone else. YOU SHOULD'NT GET AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE IN PVP JUST BECAUSE YOU DID. AND IN MY OPINION, STS SHOULD HAVE NEVER MADE THE 3pc RING EXCLUSIVE TO THOSE WHO CAPPED EARLY BECAUSE THAT ALSO MAKES END GAME PVP UNBALANCED! If anything maybe a 77 vanity THAT ISN'T USED TO CRAFT A RING OR GIVE ANY STATS WOULD BE NICE FOR THOSE LIKE YOU WHO MADE THE COMMITMENT ON SPENDING THAT MUCH TIME and/or MONEY CAPPING 300k

Why are people still talking about this? I'm not asking you guys to agree or disagree. I'm not even going to read all of that. Just don't waste your time posting.

frat
10-19-2015, 11:08 AM
No. Hows this fair? if you wanted 3pc you had to cap before.

I never had the money when i was younger to cap, I was 11 when I started and I'm 16 (17 in 2 weeks) now. My family wasn't going to spend money on games for me, I had to earn the money on my own. I would've had all cap vanities if I was older back then. I always came very close. For example during 56 cap I was L55 like 20k/86k or what ever the cap xp was. Same thing goes for L61 cap and L66 cap. Then after that I just didn't level a main past 66 until 77 cap.

Basauli
10-19-2015, 11:15 AM
I spent 500$ or more to cap two characters to 77 starting from level 1. From 1 to 75 took 1000 platinum and from 75 to 76 took 1000 platinum. From 76 to 77 took almost 2k platinum? So 2000+2000+1000+1000+1000+1000= 7k platinum. I only capped because I thought I would get everything I ever needed. The only thing after I got a full lust set that I missing was a 3pc ring. Some new players gained way more xp older players did in the past year by capping multiple characters

DivineMoustache
10-19-2015, 12:14 PM
Why are people still talking about this? I'm not asking you guys to agree or disagree. I'm not even going to read all of that. Just don't waste your time posting.

Here's some basic logic/math that no ones seems to have brought up:

You guys are complaining about having to pay to do 300K XP to get to 77 when its now 15K or so. But to level to 77, you didn't have to do the (I totally forget all the elite cap xp requirements, here's some guesstimates as I was never interested in capping) 60K for 56, the 80K for 61, the 100K for 66, the 100K+ for 71, or the 100K+ for 76, which is probably a liiiittle more more than the 300K you guys did for 77.

I'm all for giving another special recolored vanity to those who capped 77 before this though. But really there shouldn't be any complaining.

Xenobiotic
10-19-2015, 12:50 PM
I never had the money when i was younger to cap, I was 11 when I started and I'm 16 (17 in 2 weeks) now. My family wasn't going to spend money on games for me, I had to earn the money on my own. I would've had all cap vanities if I was older back then. I always came very close. For example during 56 cap I was L55 like 20k/86k or what ever the cap xp was. Same thing goes for L61 cap and L66 cap. Then after that I just didn't level a main past 66 until 77 cap.

But you don't seem to get the point. It is your choice to spend your money on this game. Did STG force you? No, you chose, out of your own will, to waste your money like that. If anyone it's you who you should be blaming.


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frat
10-19-2015, 01:08 PM
I spent 500$ or more to cap two characters to 77 starting from level 1. From 1 to 75 took 1000 platinum and from 75 to 76 took 1000 platinum. From 76 to 77 took almost 2k platinum? So 2000+2000+1000+1000+1000+1000= 7k platinum. I only capped because I thought I would get everything I ever needed. The only thing after I got a full lust set that I missing was a 3pc ring. Some new players gained way more xp older players did in the past year by capping multiple characters

that's what I'm trying to say, this isn't anything like the old caps. 300k is 3 times more than 100k. Capping 100k got people rewards and we don't get any rewards for doing 300k. Now people can level and still get the L76/77 cap vanities by only capping like 15k when it took us 300k. That's what's unfair.

frat
10-19-2015, 01:10 PM
Here's some basic logic/math that no ones seems to have brought up:

You guys are complaining about having to pay to do 300K XP to get to 77 when its now 15K or so. But to level to 77, you didn't have to do the (I totally forget all the elite cap xp requirements, here's some guesstimates as I was never interested in capping) 60K for 56, the 80K for 61, the 100K for 66, the 100K+ for 71, or the 100K+ for 76, which is probably a liiiittle more more than the 300K you guys did for 77.

I'm all for giving another special recolored vanity to those who capped 77 before this though. But really there shouldn't be any complaining.

Exactly. Thank you. I didn't think it was necessary to explain this because people should have enough common sense to see why I'm complaining, but I guess not.

frat
10-19-2015, 01:19 PM
But you don't seem to get the point. It is your choice to spend your money on this game. Did STG force you? No, you chose, out of your own will, to waste your money like that. If anyone it's you who you should be blaming.


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Spending 200 dollars was for me to be able to use lust and get 2pc. You're right saying I could've done it for free but let's be real here. Who's going to take the time to do 300k with no elixirs? Now people can get lust and 2pc without putting in as much as effort as us. That's the unfair part ive been trying to explain to everybody. All of you that are telling me to deal with it is because none of you put in the effort to cap 300k. If you capped 300k like I and others did then you'd have the right to talk. You guys don't see the point in me complaining because you didn't spend time and money capping 300k like I did.

DivineMoustache
10-19-2015, 01:44 PM
Exactly. Thank you. I didn't think it was necessary to explain this because people should have enough common sense to see why I'm complaining, but I guess not.

That was my point against why you're complaining about level 80 making level 77 easy, lol. Idk what you interpreted it as. Nobody who did the past caps complained much when they were made easy. Not sure why it's suddenly an issue now.

frat
10-19-2015, 02:51 PM
That was my point against why you're complaining about level 80 making level 77 easy, lol. Idk what you interpreted it as. Nobody who did the past caps complained much when they were made easy. Not sure why it's suddenly an issue now.

When were the past caps ever this easy? Why are you even talking about capping if you never have?



All of you that are telling me to deal with it is because none of you put in the effort to cap 300k. If you capped 300k like I and others did then you'd have the right to talk. You guys don't see the point in me complaining because you didn't spend time and money capping 300k like I did.


^^^^

Bous
10-19-2015, 03:22 PM
Thread close. Thanks for the new content cinco! Really turned nothing into one of my favorite games again!

ZedMaster
10-19-2015, 03:28 PM
When were the past caps ever this easy? Why are you even talking about capping if you never have?





^^^^

The community has spoken. We don't care. You didn't even bother to read what I said... I'm not even going to care about anyone who cries about this anymore, just simply due to the lack of respect you've shown to my own opinion. Cinco did a great job and I hope the community overall motivates him to possibly continue and release more new and cool things to this really old game that we still love and cherish.

frat
10-19-2015, 03:35 PM
The community has spoken. We don't care. You didn't even bother to read what I said... I'm not even going to care about anyone who cries about this anymore, just simply due to the lack of respect you've shown to my own opinion. Cinco did a great job and I hope the community overall motivates him to possibly continue and release more new and cool things to this really old game that we still love and cherish.

I ended up reading what you said. You're just like everyone else who says "oh just deal with it, it's your choice" when you haven't even ever capped as well.

Vigilante
10-19-2015, 03:49 PM
I'm loving the update, but I'm the same in the way that the 77 cap vanity should have been removed in the new cap.

Wow... looks like I have to hurry to lvl 77 to get my 2 pc before sts might cancel my precious Golem, no time to waste... Please take this advantage guys and girls

Xenobiotic
10-19-2015, 04:19 PM
Spending 200 dollars was for me to be able to use lust and get 2pc. You're right saying I could've done it for free but let's be real here. Who's going to take the time to do 300k with no elixirs? Now people can get lust and 2pc without putting in as much as effort as us. That's the unfair part ive been trying to explain to everybody. All of you that are telling me to deal with it is because none of you put in the effort to cap 300k. If you capped 300k like I and others did then you'd have the right to talk. You guys don't see the point in me complaining because you didn't spend time and money capping 300k like I did.

Exactly, I didn't make the choice to put in my own money, time, and effort in which you did. Is it my fault? No. Is it STG's fault that you made your own choice? No it definitely is not, so why are you complaining? Because they made an update that they said they wouldn't? And what does your complaining say to Cinco? "Oh Cinco, you should've thoroughly thought through what this cap that you burned your personal hours on could do to us that chose to use our money to cap."


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Groaning
10-19-2015, 05:26 PM
lets give those who capped at l77 a three eyed smiley face emote shield k? happy? thanks!

Basauli
10-19-2015, 05:36 PM
If we were here before we would have most definitely capped those other caps. Instead we came at a time where the cap was 300k xp. I was thinking the next cap would be the cap I would be able to get the 3pc on but unfortunately the vanity isn't a elite vanity so I can't craft to create a 3pc, bummer

Magic Sword
10-19-2015, 05:39 PM
I ended up reading what you said. You're just like everyone else who says "oh just deal with it, it's your choice" when you haven't even ever capped as well.

pretty sure most of the people who commented did cap 77 for 300K xp that was an extreme amount to be at the highest level, its no longer the highest level so why should it remain 300K?

frat
10-19-2015, 06:12 PM
Exactly, I didn't make the choice to put in my own money, time, and effort in which you did. Is it my fault? No. Is it STG's fault that you made your own choice? No it definitely is not, so why are you complaining? Because they made an update that they said they wouldn't? And what does your complaining say to Cinco? "Oh Cinco, you should've thoroughly thought through what this cap that you burned your personal hours on could do to us that chose to use our money to cap."



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You're still not getting the point. The cap was 300k and you achieved 2pc and lust from it and now you can achieve the 2pc and lust for only 15-20k xp. That is why I am complaining.

frat
10-19-2015, 06:15 PM
pretty sure most of the people who commented did cap 77 for 300K xp that was an extreme amount to be at the highest level, its no longer the highest level so why should it remain 300K?

I never said it should remain 300k. The people who took the time do to the 300k should get some type of reward because now I basically did that 300k for nothing, could've just got 2pc and lust after the L80 cap but oh wait! There wasn't supposed to be another cap!

Waug
10-19-2015, 07:30 PM
You're still not getting the point. The cap was 300k and you achieved 2pc and lust from it and now you can achieve the 2pc and lust for only 15-20k xp. That is why I am complaining.

once few maps were paid, ppls that spent alot money should come back and complain - we spent alot and its free, ppls now can get a full day 3x combo, old ppls come and complain we spent enormous plat so why sts and make this unfair, nothing is written in stone, eventually things change and its good to see that change is toward more free to play.

Its you, who dont have any idea that how many ppls did grind 300k and they feeled it so hard, but are not unhappy like u rather enjoying the cap AND ENJOYING MORE because its easier than ever now, its actually good, its just u cant see the good side, and u kept decling all the valid points, its just worthless, ppls shoould rly stop feeding this topic and just ignore it

Oculus
10-19-2015, 07:50 PM
I would forget about the 400k grind from 75-77 if I got 3pc from 80 ;(

frat
10-19-2015, 08:31 PM
once few maps were paid, ppls that spent alot money should come back and complain - we spent alot and its free, ppls now can get a full day 3x combo, old ppls come and complain we spent enormous plat so why sts and make this unfair, nothing is written in stone, eventually things change and its good to see that change is toward more free to play.

Its you, who dont have any idea that how many ppls did grind 300k and they feeled it so hard, but are not unhappy like u rather enjoying the cap AND ENJOYING MORE because its easier than ever now, its actually good, its just u cant see the good side, and u kept decling all the valid points, its just worthless, ppls shoould rly stop feeding this topic and just ignore it

You don't seem to understand that I haven't said I don't like the new cap, I love it. PL is active now and I'm seeing people I haven't seen in years.

DivineMoustache
10-19-2015, 08:58 PM
When were the past caps ever this easy? Why are you even talking about capping if you never have?



I never have, but those who capped BEFORE YOU and never once complained about the old elite caps going back to normal. And those who have capped every elite cap from the beginning have had it worse than grinding 300k xp in terms of platinum usage, and xp grind. Yet I see no complaints whatsoever from them. So not sure why your case is so special and different.

Here's a semi-analogy that can hopefully make my point a little more clear: Maybe STS should give a special reward to everyone who ever bought and kept a Wraith Set for 3M or a Raid Roach Set for 5M. Or a lust set for 13M. Or those of us twinks who bought artisans and experts for 1M. Since now everyone can get them easily and cheaply, those of us who put time and effort into getting the gold to use the sets should get a refund or some sort of gratification, right?

Either way, glad everyone, and you, are enjoying the cap now. I'm in love with the activity in every towne now and it has been a drastic difference in terms of enthusiasm both personally and throughout the community.

Waug
10-20-2015, 02:00 AM
You don't seem to understand that I haven't said I don't like the new cap, I love it. PL is active now and I'm seeing people I haven't seen in years.
Lel Irony at it's best....
Read the justification again and again pls

This was ur main concern as you kept saying again and again -

You're still not getting the point. The cap was 300k and you achieved 2pc and lust from it and now you can achieve the 2pc and lust for only 15-20k xp. That is why I am complaining.
This is the justification that is totally to the point -

once few maps were paid, ppls that spent alot money should come back and complain - we spent alot and its free, ppls now can get a full day 3x combo, old ppls come and complain we spent enormous plat so why sts and make this unfair, nothing is written in stone, eventually things change and its good to see that change is toward more free to play.

Its you, who dont have any idea that how many ppls did grind 300k and they feeled it so hard, but are not unhappy like u rather enjoying the cap AND ENJOYING MORE because its easier than ever now, its actually good, its just u cant see the good side, and u kept decling all the valid points, its just worthless, ppls shoould rly stop feeding this topic and just ignore it

frat
10-20-2015, 06:22 AM
I never have, but those who capped BEFORE YOU and never once complained about the old elite caps going back to normal. And those who have capped every elite cap from the beginning have had it worse than grinding 300k xp in terms of platinum usage, and xp grind. Yet I see no complaints whatsoever from them. So not sure why your case is so special and different.

Here's a semi-analogy that can hopefully make my point a little more clear: Maybe STS should give a special reward to everyone who ever bought and kept a Wraith Set for 3M or a Raid Roach Set for 5M. Or a lust set for 13M. Or those of us twinks who bought artisans and experts for 1M. Since now everyone can get them easily and cheaply, those of us who put time and effort into getting the gold to use the sets should get a refund or some sort of gratification, right?

Either way, glad everyone, and you, are enjoying the cap now. I'm in love with the activity in every towne now and it has been a drastic difference in terms of enthusiasm both personally and throughout the community.

When the old caps went back to normal they took away the Cap vanity for that level meaning it can't be achievable anymore but with this cap it is still achievable. I had to get 300k xp while others can do what I did by only having to get 15-20k xp.

Groaning
10-20-2015, 06:27 AM
When the old caps went back to normal they took away the Cap vanity for that level meaning it can't be achievable anymore but with this cap it is still achievable. I had to get 300k xp while others can do what I did by only having to get 15-20k xp.

it goes back to the point, you chose to spend that 200$ worth of plat

frat
10-20-2015, 06:34 AM
it goes back to the point, you chose to spend that 200$ worth of plat

I chose to spend 200 dollars to get the 2pc and use lust. That's what capping is for. Now people can cap and still get 2pc and lust with not even close to as much xp as I did.

Ignitedmage
10-20-2015, 09:41 AM
Ok to all those guys whose seems this thing unfair i would post for you and against you...

Yes, i have already put me in your position and i would feel disaster if i loose 200$
Yea, you feel that your plat got wasted, with money.

However, No body told you to waste 200$... now as you said alot time above that why would you wait for an update which STS told you that will never happen, well then if that was the thing then why did you used platinum with curiosity? See, as we all knew that there were no updates and STS also said they'll run this game for foreseeable future, and as a mass people were buying platinum, PL would live a long way, which meant that you had a year or two to level.
So you should had made a schedule like 5k exp a day and imo that's do-able for the haters of pve too and with that schedule 60 days = 2 months you will be 77

So no time wasted, no money wasted, and a little gold wasted to complete the schedule

AND the 5k one is an example, if you do 1k still you'll cap in an year and i am quite sure that you can play WITHOUT 2pc...

All i gotta say, enjoy the update! :)

Frat read this....

Basauli
10-20-2015, 09:50 AM
We just wand a elite vanity is all since the grinding we did was tough, and now its easy. There's people who capped without using mega maze but it took them months, now people can cap in days due to the less discouraging xp total this time around. Elite vanity for a super elite grind would be nice and well deserved. Those old players who aren't complaining have a 3pc already and are satisfied. The new players who would have capped if we installed back them aren't satisfied as we had to do 300k xp to level up. It's not going to hurt the old players if we who capped 300k xp get a elite vanity we just want the 3pc so we can feel at less of a disadvantage in pvp. Nothing wrong with giving those who spent 200$ a elite vanity to craft, or those who spent months to level up to 77 a 3pc ring. The new players who got a 2pc by only leveling 50k won't mind if we who leveled 300k get a rightfully earned 3pc ring. It'll be a fair and just decision, as 300k was alo t of xp and took alo t of platinum or a lot of a person personal time if not did with platinum to cap 300k xp

Ignitedmage
10-20-2015, 09:55 AM
We just wand a elite vanity is all since the grinding we did was tough, and now its easy. There's people who capped without using mega maze but it took them months, now people can cap in days due to the less discouraging xp total this time around. Elite vanity for a super elite grind would be nice and well deserved. Those old players who aren't complaining have a 3pc already and are satisfied. The new players who would have capped if we installed back them aren't satisfied as we had to do 300k xp to level up. It's not going to hurt the old players if we who capped 300k xp get a elite vanity we just want the 3pc so we can feel at less of a disadvantage in pvp. Nothing wrong with giving those who spent 200$ a elite vanity to craft, or those who spent months to level up to 77 a 3pc ring. The new players who got a 2pc by only leveling 50k won't mind if we who leveled 300k get a rightfully earned 3pc ring. It'll be a fair and just decision, as 300k was alo t of xp and took alo t of platinum or a lot of a person personal time if not did with platinum to cap 300k xp

Ok read these points
1. You didn't capped at the first week
2. no body told you to cap
3. we all knew there won't be updates so it was possible to cap without money and time wastage
4. If you did made a good schedule to cap you would be satisfied
5. There is nothing for STS to give you because you did what you wanted
6. STS ain't reasonable for you not to make a good schedule
7. You did leveled to 77 because YOU was curious to have fun with 2pc

Enough to say.

frat
10-20-2015, 11:14 AM
Ok read these points
1. You didn't capped at the first week
2. no body told you to cap
3. we all knew there won't be updates so it was possible to cap without money and time wastage
4. If you did made a good schedule to cap you would be satisfied
5. There is nothing for STS to give you because you did what you wanted
6. STS ain't reasonable for you not to make a good schedule
7. You did leveled to 77 because YOU was curious to have fun with 2pc

Enough to say.

Maybe this will make it easier for you all to understand...


Ok so during the 56 cap the crown of persistence was the award for hitting L56 which was around 86k xp or something around that. When the 61 cap came out the COP was no longer achieveable, that's why people chose to go to 56 so they could get the COP while they had the chance. What they're basically doing now with the L80 cap would be like coming out with a 61 cap then keeping the COP available for hitting L56, BUT L56 would only be lets say 5k for example... Does that sound fair for everybody who spent time and money doing 86k xp? No, it doesn't. That's the same type of this here. The reason I stuck with PL instead of quitting was because I had hope that there would be another cap. I was right but i was not expecting this cap to be very different than previous caps. That's why I feel that the people who capped should be the ones having the 2pc and the people who didn't should not be allowed to get 2pc.

frat
10-20-2015, 11:18 AM
Frat read this....

No offense man but your English is confusing the crap outta me.

Basauli
10-20-2015, 11:37 AM
Even with a good schedule it would take a lot of your time, in months to get to the cap. Actually with a good schedule it might take you a year or more given that your earning a certain amount of xp a day. If I put myself scedule and did 2k xp a day I'd forget about capping , that would be too long a wait for me. What's the point in playing the game if you can't PvP on par with others. PvP is the main aspect so leveling a certain amount of xp a day leaves you with not pvping at endgame until after months you finally became 77. I spent platinum to level my character within 3 days, if I were here the day the cap came out i would have leveled within those three days. We gained a understandable amount of xp to be rewarded a recolored elite vanity to craft into a 3pc ring

Vigilante
10-20-2015, 02:53 PM
Maybe this will make it easier for you all to understand...


Ok so during the 56 cap the crown of persistence was the award for hitting L56 which was around 86k xp or something around that. When the 61 cap came out the COP was no longer achieveable, that's why people chose to go to 56 so they could get the COP while they had the chance. What they're basically doing now with the L80 cap would be like coming out with a 61 cap then keeping the COP available for hitting L56, BUT L56 would only be lets say 5k for example... Does that sound fair for everybody who spent time and money doing 86k xp? No, it doesn't. That's the same type of this here. The reason I stuck with PL instead of quitting was because I had hope that there would be another cap. I was right but i was not expecting this cap to be very different than previous caps. That's why I feel that the people who capped should be the ones having the 2pc and the people who didn't should not be allowed to get 2pc.

I feel you... In my entire life I only spented 9.99 dollars for 75 plat and regret it very much

Reunegade
10-20-2015, 03:23 PM
No offense man but your English is confusing the crap outta me.
Think of it this way... you bought a Fast Pass for a Disney ride to get to ride it before everyone else. Although you became instantly gratified, you had to pay a price to obtain the Fast Pass. Same goes for your situation.

frat
10-20-2015, 03:52 PM
Think of it this way... you bought a Fast Pass for a Disney ride to get to ride it before everyone else. Although you became instantly gratified, you had to pay a price to obtain the Fast Pass. Same goes for your situation.

That fast pass was supposed to be the only pass in this situation. There's a huge difference between spending 200 dollars and no money at all.

Groaning
10-20-2015, 06:56 PM
Frat, next time don't cap with your allowance, go to Disney

Bous
10-20-2015, 07:11 PM
Frat if you think about it, if you didn't spend that $200 who knows if we would have gotten L80 cap. I paid around $130 too. If we all didn't spend that money that we did I doubt PL would ever had another cap. It would have turned out like SL or DL who haven't had updates in years. Enjoy the new levels. And thank Cinco he made it extremely easy to level and not to mention FREE with the unlimited daily elixir.

frat
10-20-2015, 07:49 PM
Frat if you think about it, if you didn't spend that $200 who knows if we would have gotten L80 cap. I paid around $130 too. If we all didn't spend that money that we did I doubt PL would ever had another cap. It would have turned out like SL or DL who haven't had updates in years. Enjoy the new levels. And thank Cinco he made it extremely easy to level and not to mention FREE with the unlimited daily elixir.

Yeah i agree, and i'd send a mod a pm to close this thread because people always find a reason to disagree with you.

frat
10-20-2015, 07:51 PM
Frat, next time don't cap with your allowance, go to Disney

I make around 100 bucks a week I have a job lol. But still 200 bucks is a lot...

Ignitedmage
10-21-2015, 08:58 AM
No offense man but your English is confusing the crap outta me.


Even with a good schedule it would take a lot of your time, in months to get to the cap. Actually with a good schedule it might take you a year or more given that your earning a certain amount of xp a day. If I put myself scedule and did 2k xp a day I'd forget about capping , that would be too long a wait for me. What's the point in playing the game if you can't PvP on par with others. PvP is the main aspect so leveling a certain amount of xp a day leaves you with not pvping at endgame until after months you finally became 77. I spent platinum to level my character within 3 days, if I were here the day the cap came out i would have leveled within those three days. We gained a understandable amount of xp to be rewarded a recolored elite vanity to craft into a 3pc ring

Ok Frat i will just tell you both 1 point.
In simple words :p

So, there were many people who were playing at level 76 or 75 WITHOUT any 2pc or 3pc
We all know that the dragon master sets can defeat lust sets, just need a bit practice.

So, if you guys had made a schedule as i mentioned twice already, it would take you months to cap but i am sure that everybody can play at 76, with no ring, and those who can't play 76 they are a fail at 77 too, no offense.
Yes, i know this would take a lot time but still you have a lot time when reminding the "foreseeable future".

@Basauli, Yes it would take a lot time BUT if we consume that you decided to do 2k EXP everyday, and you get 200 exp every 2 minutes, DAILY, then 20 minutes = 2k exp and 2k exp daily = 5 months.
Well i don't understand why you said "I will forget about capping", i eventually come up that your showing your curiosity here and you are curios so STS won't be reasonable, and as a too long then getting every excited thing it takes long, despite this is a game you can skip the "too long" time by your money. I already said it is always possible to pvp with no ring and dragon master set vs 3pc lust set

@ Frat, Yes bro you are actually saying right that the update was really unusual but at the other hand you thought of having an update, i did too, even i thought what will be the update and when lol, but you can't rely on thoughts though, tht's why i didn't boosted my exp and stayed calm. :)

No offense buddies, enjoy the cap!

frat
10-21-2015, 10:49 AM
Ok Frat i will just tell you both 1 point.
In simple words :p

So, there were many people who were playing at level 76 or 75 WITHOUT any 2pc or 3pc
We all know that the dragon master sets can defeat lust sets, just need a bit practice.

So, if you guys had made a schedule as i mentioned twice already, it would take you months to cap but i am sure that everybody can play at 76, with no ring, and those who can't play 76 they are a fail at 77 too, no offense.
Yes, i know this would take a lot time but still you have a lot time when reminding the "foreseeable future".

@Basauli, Yes it would take a lot time BUT if we consume that you decided to do 2k EXP everyday, and you get 200 exp every 2 minutes, DAILY, then 20 minutes = 2k exp and 2k exp daily = 5 months.
Well i don't understand why you said "I will forget about capping", i eventually come up that your showing your curiosity here and you are curios so STS won't be reasonable, and as a too long then getting every excited thing it takes long, despite this is a game you can skip the "too long" time by your money. I already said it is always possible to pvp with no ring and dragon master set vs 3pc lust set

@ Frat, Yes bro you are actually saying right that the update was really unusual but at the other hand you thought of having an update, i did too, even i thought what will be the update and when lol, but you can't rely on thoughts though, tht's why i didn't boosted my exp and stayed calm. :)

No offense buddies, enjoy the cap!

Yeah I understood what you were saying it's just your English is a little off. I can tell
English isn't your primary language. What's your primary language btw? Just curious.

Groaning
10-21-2015, 01:22 PM
Yeah I understood what you were saying it's just your English is a little off. I can tell
English isn't your primary language. What's your primary language btw? Just curious.

if you know what hes saying then why are you complaining? secondly is my english off?

lastly 100th post

frat
10-21-2015, 02:15 PM
if you know what hes saying then why are you complaining? secondly is my english off?

lastly 100th post

Please show me where I was complaining, I never said It's wrong to be learning english. No but sometimes yours is off from when I have read your posts in the past.

Detains
10-21-2015, 02:19 PM
Hmmm, why do you care that other people have the opportunity to receive what you got months ago for capping 77? Why does it anger you that people less fortunate than you are able to reach a level they couldn't before and gain the rewards they wouldn't of got otherwise. Fact is, it was your decision to spend $200 and it is obvious that you may of made the wrong decision. But you were able to play as a level 77 for months with all the benefits, like pvping with Lust, whereas it is pretty useless now, you were able to farm items easily and make money, whereas now them items have devalued so there is not much profit there. But in the end we should all really not care about this problem, it has happened and nothing will change it now so, deal with it. We all get to play with a fantastic update and we should all enjoy it.

Groaning
10-21-2015, 04:20 PM
Please show me where I was complaining, I never said It's wrong to be learning english. No but sometimes yours is off from when I have read your posts in the past.

because this is the PL forums not the essay for your english class

Groaning
10-21-2015, 04:24 PM
Hmmm, why do you care that other people have the opportunity to receive what you got months ago for capping 77? Why does it anger you that people less fortunate than you are able to reach a level they couldn't before and gain the rewards they wouldn't of got otherwise. Fact is, it was your decision to spend $200 and it is obvious that you may of made the wrong decision. But you were able to play as a level 77 for months with all the benefits, like pvping with Lust, whereas it is pretty useless now, you were able to farm items easily and make money, whereas now them items have devalued so there is not much profit there. But in the end we should all really not care about this problem, it has happened and nothing will change it now so, deal with it. We all get to play with a fantastic update and we should all enjoy it.

tony really didnt need to be l77 guess what he played.. yep a behr i also do believe he played a pally

Vigilante
10-21-2015, 04:49 PM
Ready for English class, what's todays main objective?

Groaning
10-21-2015, 05:54 PM
Ready for English class, what's todays main objective?

type a novel and get over 10k sells on amazon

frat
10-21-2015, 08:56 PM
because this is the PL forums not the essay for your english class

That has nothing to do with what I was saying. His English was confusing to me in that one post, I had to re read it like 5 times to know what the hell he was talking about. I have nothing against it and I wasn't correcting him.


tony really didnt need to be l77 guess what he played.. yep a behr i also do believe he played a pally

Yes I play a bear but I've always been a bear player. Im not one of those bears who joins family, spams skills , and teams 24/7. I know how to play my role in FFA and CTF, proper tanking requires a lot of skill, a skill that a lot of bears lack. I've mastered it throughout all of my time playing that class. My Mage was a pally a few times but for only a few days. I play int Mage 99 percent of the time on my Mage. I actually hate pally. Also same goes for that class, I know how to support in FFA and CTF and nuke and play offensively at the same time. Which again, is another skill a lot of int mages lack. I wanted my bear and Mage to be 77 because I'd rather have 2pc and use lust str because it tanks better. For Mage I'd rather have 2pc and lust int because it nukes a lot harder.

Waug
10-21-2015, 11:13 PM
Yes I play a bear but I've always been a bear player. Im not one of those bears who joins family, spams skills , and teams 24/7. I know how to play my role in FFA and CTF, proper tanking requires a lot of skill, a skill that a lot of bears lack. I've mastered it throughout all of my time playing that class. My Mage was a pally a few times but for only a few days. I play int Mage 99 percent of the time on my Mage. I actually hate pally. Also same goes for that class, I know how to support in FFA and CTF and nuke and play offensively at the same time. Which again, is another skill a lot of int mages lack. I wanted my bear and Mage to be 77 because I'd rather have 2pc and use lust str because it tanks better. For Mage I'd rather have 2pc and lust int because it nukes a lot harder.

umm hating to sounds like rude but though already showed how u don't have credibility, as u reveal urself more & more, u just making it harder & harder for peoples to trust u ...





I won't go to anything else.Simply something that can have nearly 90 dodge cant be balanced in any way, Ur tactics would work nearly 10% on an average theoretically. Mostly those are the pps try to make pps think that this class is fair are those who play with it and use to take it as skilled.I play on my bird all the time and I rarely have trouble with bears. So yes it does work for me atleast 75% of the time. Nowhere did I say that bears are balanced. They are very op but a good bird > an average bear. A good bear > A good bird.

iRandom
10-22-2015, 01:33 AM
type a novel and get over 10k sells on amazon

Done. Ten Reasons Why Groaning Should Lose is the prequel to my best-selling Ten Reasons Why Groaning Should Win.

Groaning
10-22-2015, 06:01 AM
Done. Ten Reasons Why Groaning Should Lose is the prequel to my best-selling Ten Reasons Why Groaning Should Win.

thanks, dont i get like a 20% profit rate?

frat
10-22-2015, 06:19 AM
umm hating to sounds like rude but though already showed how u don't have credibility, as u reveal urself more & more, u just making it harder & harder for peoples to trust u ...

My bird was 75. I don't see how not wanting to reveal who my bird is is a bad thing? I use my bird a lot too but I'm not going to mention that name. I've never shown any reason I can't be trusted and I have no clue what trusting has to do with anything in this case.

Bears take no skill in a 1v1, what I was saying before is on my bird I haven't had any trouble with killing bears, I don't like playing 1v1's at endgame though I only like playing 2v2 and 3v3 or 5v5 matches.


Also please point out to where I was hating and who I was hating on, because that didn't happen, but nice try though.

frat
10-22-2015, 06:28 AM
umm hating to sounds like rude but though already showed how u don't have credibility, as u reveal urself more & more, u just making it harder & harder for peoples to trust u ...

You also gotta realize I've played bear long before they were op, even before there was a pvp... I've been a bear player actually since April 8th 2010. That's a pretty long time. I don't only know how to play one class properly, I know bird bear and Mage very well on an FFA and CTF basis.

Waug
10-22-2015, 06:41 AM
My bird was 75. I don't see how not wanting to reveal who my bird is is a bad thing? I use my bird a lot too but I'm not going to mention that name. I've never shown any reason I can't be trusted and I have no clue what trusting has to do with anything in this case.

Bears take no skill in a 1v1, what I was saying before is on my bird I haven't had any trouble with killing bears, I don't like playing 1v1's at endgame though I only like playing 2v2 and 3v3 or 5v5 matches.


Also please point out to where I was hating and who I was hating on, because that didn't happen, but nice try though.

This simple logics are going over ur head, prolly u ain't mature enough to understand that., no problem,
which part of my post asked u to reveal ur bird? not even indirectly i did that in my post. I just showed u how u posted contradictory posted, read in bold, ur prev post in different thread I quoted, u mention u play as bird most of the time, now u said u play bear most of the time, that dismissed ur own post, both cant be TRUE at the same time.

Its like ur stating some imaginary facts about u, ur claims are imaginary & none other but u proved that by urself, thus u r not trust worthy and u lost ur credibility, thus even if some facts maybe TRUE, ppls should not trust u, because we know u may lie like b4.

frat
10-22-2015, 07:43 AM
This simple logics are going over ur head, prolly u ain't mature enough to understand that., no problem,
which part of my post asked u to reveal ur bird? not even indirectly i did that in my post. I just showed u how u posted contradictory posted, read in bold, ur prev post in different thread I quoted, u mention u play as bird most of the time, now u said u play bear most of the time, that dismissed ur own post, both cant be TRUE at the same time.

Its like ur stating some imaginary facts about u, ur claims are imaginary & none other but u proved that by urself, thus u r not trust worthy and u lost ur credibility, thus even if some facts maybe TRUE, ppls should not trust u, because we know u may lie like b4.

I understood exactly what you were saying. You don't seem to understand. I said I play on my bird all the time, that doesn't mean the majority of my time. I also play bear and Mage all the time. You seem to be taking what I'm saying very specific. I'm wasnt being specific there but... out of all 3 classes I play on my bear the most, since you wanna be that specific. Nowhere have I lied about anything.

In your next response could you please spell everything out? "ppl, u, prolly, ur" that's hard to read bro lol. This is just a friendly argument so I hope you don't take anything personally.

frat
10-22-2015, 07:46 AM
This simple logics are going over ur head, prolly u ain't mature enough to understand that., no problem,
which part of my post asked u to reveal ur bird? not even indirectly i did that in my post. I just showed u how u posted contradictory posted, read in bold, ur prev post in different thread I quoted, u mention u play as bird most of the time, now u said u play bear most of the time, that dismissed ur own post, both cant be TRUE at the same time.

Its like ur stating some imaginary facts about u, ur claims are imaginary & none other but u proved that by urself, thus u r not trust worthy and u lost ur credibility, thus even if some facts maybe TRUE, ppls should not trust u, because we know u may lie like b4.


I had to read that like 3 times because you spell things out very strange. Lol.

Waug
10-22-2015, 08:11 AM
I understood exactly what you were saying. You don't seem to understand. I said I play on my bird all the time, that doesn't mean the majority of my time. I also play bear and Mage all the time. You seem to be taking what I'm saying very specific. I'm wasnt being specific there but... out of all 3 classes I play on my bear the most, since you wanna be that specific. Nowhere have I lied about anything.

In your next response could you please spell everything out? "ppl, u, prolly, ur" that's hard to read bro lol. This is just a friendly argument so I hope you don't take anything personally.

LOl ya all the time does not means most of the time rather it means more than most of the time and top of that in the context u said this was to justify that bird is like ur main class u play with which is totally get incorrect when u project that bears is what u play with most, that proves what I said about peoples who play as bears most of time and thinks they are balanced, now don't tell me that you did say bears are op because u said that too, it's like "ya unicorn exist, no unicorn don't exist" that's what you always kept doing, telling the contradictory things and I proved that several times.

But I'll leave this thread because
1- It's like very little baby asking for moon to play with like her other toys, but instead of so many peoples surrounding her described how this can't be possible, but being just a little baby, she's unable to understand this, anybody who read this whole thread should feel like that and even after that if peoples again try to describe things to the baby, then it shows that the peoples are dumb not the baby.

If anywhere I did sound like rude, I'm sorry, my purpose was not to be rude ever.

frat
10-22-2015, 10:48 AM
LOl ya all the time does not means most of the time rather it means more than most of the time and top of that in the context u said this was to justify that bird is like ur main class u play with which is totally get incorrect when u project that bears is what u play with most, that proves what I said about peoples who play as bears most of time and thinks they are balanced, now don't tell me that you did say bears are op because u said that too, it's like "ya unicorn exist, no unicorn don't exist" that's what you always kept doing, telling the contradictory things and I proved that several times.

But I'll leave this thread because
1- It's like very little baby asking for moon to play with like her other toys, but instead of so many peoples surrounding her described how this can't be possible, but being just a little baby, she's unable to understand this, anybody who read this whole thread should feel like that and even after that if peoples again try to describe things to the baby, then it shows that the peoples are dumb not the baby.

If anywhere I did sound like rude, I'm sorry, my purpose was not to be rude ever.

Bears are op but that doesn't mean a good bird can't ever beat a good bear. Im a good bird and I have beaten bears easily many times but have also got my *** kicked a few times.

anahadaz
10-22-2015, 10:52 AM
Either you're all very, very silly or I'm misunderstanding. The only thing Tony has a problem with is the fact that the cap vanity award for 2pc hasn't been removed after he spent money capping for it. I doubt he cares that people can level faster, except that they still receive the vanity. Many people would agree with this, no one cares that the xp isn't 300k anymore. That's the whole point of a cap, you choose to grind the cap or wait until a new one comes out and then level. The only problem here is that the reward hasn't been removed. If he grinded 300k for a cap vanity, no one should receive the vanity for 18k

frat
10-22-2015, 10:55 AM
Either you're all very, very silly or I'm misunderstanding. The only thing Tony has a problem with is the fact that the cap vanity award for 2pc hasn't been removed after he spent money capping for it. I doubt he cares that people can level faster, except that they still receive the vanity. Many people would agree with this, no one cares that the xp isn't 300k anymore. That's the whole point of a cap, you choose to grind the cap or wait until a new one comes out and then level. The only problem here is that the reward hasn't been removed. If he grinded 300k for a cap vanity, no one should receive the vanity for 18k

Yes... Yes. That has been my point the whole time just people can't read for some reason.

Reunegade
10-22-2015, 02:33 PM
Yeah, I mean if Frat is going to be that defiant on his stance then let him be. You might disagree, but it's no need to attack him on a personal level.

Magic Sword
10-22-2015, 05:55 PM
like I alrdy said why does it matter they can get it now, less new players complaining how unfair it is

frat
10-23-2015, 11:19 AM
like I alrdy said why does it matter they can get it now, less new players complaining how unfair it is

Just because I only have 2pc doesn't mean I am new...

Magic Sword
10-23-2015, 10:12 PM
Just because I only have 2pc doesn't mean I am new...

didnt mean u just like people if they removed access to 2pc ring now everyone who started this cap could never get it just like people complaining at 76

Burningdex
10-26-2015, 04:00 AM
Can we just accept that its unfair 2pc is still available for 18k xp whereas people did 300k xp for the same thing.... though i see where cinco is coming from, giving the new gen players a chance if they wish to pvp.

Magic Sword
10-26-2015, 06:32 PM
Can we just accept that its unfair 2pc is still available for 18k xp whereas people did 300k xp for the same thing.... though i see where cinco is coming from, giving the new gen players a chance if they wish to pvp.

agreed yay everyone iz happy

Mothwing
10-26-2015, 06:36 PM
I don't know if this has already been said, but the only way to justify this for the people that capped 77 would be to let the 80 cap count as well (only for the people that capped 77 before 80), and let us get 3pc rings. If not, then there was absolutely no reason for me to waste my money and grind 300k xp if I get nothing from it in the long run. I'm sure (more like hoping) that STS (Cinco) has something planned in the near future, and I'm guessing they (he) will say somthing when (if) they fix the drop rates.

() to emphasize my loss of expectations in this company.

EDIT: I'd also like to point out that most people are probably so enamored with the new cap that they don't stop and realize how messed up this is. 300k xp. For nothing. And I used to wonder why most of the oldies quit. Needless to say that question has been fully answered.

EDIT x2: I understand that Cinco did this as a favor, and I'm truly grateful for that. I just hope he realizes that this needs to be fixed pronto.

Healynn
10-27-2015, 05:29 PM
Qq, be happy for the new content!