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Titanium
10-16-2015, 04:01 AM
I asked paragem's stats to be brought back in a jewel form. Oh , guess what happened since paragem didn't come back. Eye gem costs with 2-3 m more than before.

It's beyond my understanding how we are supposed to even use those jewels. Because their stats are bad and we need too many. A standard finnese costs offer +4 dex offers same stats like a normal fire gem to a lvl 46 item. Now comes the fun part, standard finesse costs 4x more than fire gem without any odd to get grand ( as fire gem does ). And you might ask me why prices of jewels are so expensive than normal gems. It's actually pretty simple. Standard finesse offers a lot of boost to baby twink brackets. But they can't farm finesse jewels, all they can do is to get them from cs.

How about combining 3 jewels with each other for our own taste ? How about making all maps to drop all the jewels?

Many people told me when this expansion started " price is going to go down " they price dropped just a little bit after 4 months but I'm not using any jewel in my set. I don't know who really does. They are not popular. Offers less than a gem does. We didn't need to wait for gem to get better, we were pleased with them as they were . But jewel system is bad as it looks. You don't believe me? Make a poll. Ask people how many jewels are using in their set.

I'm asking to re-think your jewel system. I think it's worthless.

ClumsyCactus
10-16-2015, 04:49 AM
+1 for a poll, as it is so insanely true that nobody likes them.

Jazzi
10-16-2015, 05:10 AM
The jewel system needs a fix

Valkiryas
10-16-2015, 05:18 AM
It's for things like that , that AL isn't anymore the best mmporg since 2013, I am getting really tired of this game.

Now all is senseless , I was really hoping the back of Para Gems, I really cannot get why STS cannot realize about the jewle system , its the worst change tat I can imagine , STS please listen to OUR the player for once single time, and lease fire the actual designer and planners

Wutzgood
10-16-2015, 06:10 AM
They said they wouldn't be returning. It's not a surprise. I wouldn't expect eyes to return either during winter.

Last year I specifically made my army of level 10 rogues for this event to get a lot of paras. Now I just use them for gold tier eggs. I'm sure a lot of other people had the same idea so para gems would be flooded if they returned.

Dex Scene
10-16-2015, 08:28 AM
I would care less if a para gem would give like only 5-6 damage.
But the first para gives a freaking 40-60 extra damage.
Why a strong gem like that would only be available for one event??
I see nothing fair in that.
Chaos jewel is a joke.
They tried to substitute para gem with chaos jewel. If that so then why don't the first chaos jewel give the first para bonus damage??

I call this bs.
Yeah para gems gonna fade out.
Show me top dps players at any level (specially twinks) not using para. Yeah definitely fading out.

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Disproves
10-16-2015, 09:26 AM
Exactly what dex said..Huhu!


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Arcanedragon
10-16-2015, 09:27 AM
This is very true. Rarely do players even use the jewel system at higher levels because it is more expansive(e.g. A standard mind gives 4 int, the same as glacial at lv41 but is around 100k, haven't checked auc for standard mind in a while so not sure) If para won't return, at least give up a jewel that compares, noble chaos jewels are nothing compared to how much possible damage a para can give depending on ur bonus dmg and stat. In fact noble chaos jewels are alot harder to get. It takes thousands of chaos jewels to make 1! And the drop chance from rengol maps is like 1 every like 5+runs at the best. Calculate if u want but it would take tons of work to make a noble chaos. Also the jewel system REALLY needs to be reworked. The gem system was perfectly fine and the jewel system repuined it because no one uses it and its requires tons of work to craft nobles and theyre not even worth it

epicrrr
10-16-2015, 09:34 AM
I call this bs.
Yeah para gems gonna fade out.
Show me top dps players at any level (specially twinks) not using para. Yeah definitely fading out.

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It(para) wont fade out down here at low level bracket, our items are not progressive; we could use para items for as long as we want (Lurid/Dev/Storm sword)

Jewels not that bad IMO at 46, they are tiered jewels which either you can farm a bunch of jewels and be busy while building up to your noble/highest jewel set (46 asks something to do, heres one); jewels are transferable so a anyone dont have to spent so much for a 2nd set.

Its a good thing para did not return, or it will break your precious endgame pvp bracket.

Arrowz
10-16-2015, 09:38 AM
I would care less if a para gem would give like only 5-6 damage.
But the first para gives a freaking 40-60 extra damage.
Why a strong gem like that would only be available for one event??
I see nothing fair in that.
Chaos jewel is a joke.
They tried to substitute para gem with chaos jewel. If that so then why don't the first chaos jewel give the first para bonus damage??

I call this bs.
Yeah para gems gonna fade out.
Show me top dps players at any level (specially twinks) not using para. Yeah definitely fading out.

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Crying about paras and eyes at twink levels is pointless. Im using 4 paras and 6 eyes on my rogue. My friend is using 1 para and the rest jewels and he has better dmg and health than me while I have slightly better mana and crit. Granted, he has 2 more passive points than me but the same stats can be reached using jewels. The difference is negligible. Quit crying about the past

Dex Scene
10-16-2015, 09:52 AM
Crying about paras and eyes at twink levels is pointless. Im using 4 paras and 6 eyes on my rogue. My friend is using 1 para and the rest jewels and he has better dmg and health than me while I have slightly better mana and crit. Granted, he has 2 more passive points than me but the same stats can be reached using jewels. The difference is negligible. Quit crying about the past
Quit crying about my post. you clearly don't see the point my random person. You are comparing 4 paras with 1 para.
Im talking about the first para bonus which is huge.

coldheart
10-16-2015, 10:07 AM
They already said why it's not coming back, stop with all this whining and go play the game.lmao

yubaraj
10-16-2015, 10:31 AM
I saw my post removed from this thread. So STS that's the only solution and clarification that you guys can give us about para gem!!

I am tired anyways speaking for para comeback or improvement in current jewel system.

Happy farming noble jewels guys.

Tabeer Amin
10-16-2015, 10:39 AM
Increase drop rate and increase drop locations of jewel....problem will be solved

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Zuorsyra
10-16-2015, 10:43 AM
Primary stats jewels should be lootable in ALL FRIGGING MAPS, EVERYWHERE!!!!!...

bedmaster
10-16-2015, 10:56 AM
About primary stat gems, in low lvls where primary gems only give 2 or so primary stats, with the current prices jewels are better. But because it takes 3 jewels combined to get extra 1 stat, price triples every stage and making it more expensive than gems. About para gems i think the reason chaos jewels cant compete is 1) the awesome effect and 2) the 7.5 bonus dmg and 3) chaos are so pricey. Idk how to fix these and what i dont know even more is why sts would touch the very good gems system and making endgamers spend more to get some extra stats

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Xenobiotic
10-16-2015, 11:30 AM
It's for things like that , that AL isn't anymore the best mmporg since 2013, I am getting really tired of this game.

Now all is senseless , I was really hoping the back of Para Gems, I really cannot get why STS cannot realize about the jewle system , its the worst change tat I can imagine , STS please listen to OUR the player for once single time, and lease fire the actual designer and planners

AL was fine until greedy locks were introduced.

Edit: Or at least when it became P2W and getting money took too much time/effort.

Arrowz
10-16-2015, 11:40 AM
Quit crying about my post. you clearly don't see the point my random person. You are comparing 4 paras with 1 para.
Im talking about the first para bonus which is huge.

And is also smaller than the difference between 1 para gem and 4 para gems. Gj

Dex Scene
10-16-2015, 11:44 AM
And is also smaller than the difference between 1 para gem and 4 para gems. Gj
Start your own discussion about differences between 1 para and 4 paras thank you. For now Iam talking about how the first para bonus is huge and stg has done nothing to substitute that.

Titanium
10-17-2015, 10:50 AM
They already said why it's not coming back, stop with all this whining and go play the game.lmao

They said many things will not come back. Those things came back recolored or in their original form. We expected paragem to come back in a jewel form only to compensate the gap between gems and jewel. This could be easily a great event if we had real plat tier reward... not a vanity which will cost nothing in 1 month from now.

twoxc
10-17-2015, 01:43 PM
buff chaos noble to 2.0? xD

vawaid
10-17-2015, 01:58 PM
buff chaos noble to 2.0? xD
and give the first noble 5.0 bonus damage. :v

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Imsofancy
10-17-2015, 02:12 PM
I also want a 1000 virgin sacrifices.

Dex Scene
10-17-2015, 05:36 PM
and give the first noble 5.0 bonus damage. :v

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This!!!! It shouldn't stack with para tho.

vawaid
10-17-2015, 08:02 PM
This!!!! It shouldn't stack with para tho.
I think first noble nature should give life steal, noble water gives mana burn.

sorry, I'm too much playing dota xD

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Caabatric
10-17-2015, 10:30 PM
I think first noble nature should give life steal, noble water gives mana burn.

sorry, I'm too much playing dota xD

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play more LoL son.

vawaid
10-17-2015, 10:46 PM
play more LoL son.
I play both

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Arrowz
10-17-2015, 10:47 PM
play more LoL son.

ewwww. smite for the win

vawaid
10-17-2015, 11:51 PM
ewwww. smite for the win
doesnt run in my wooden pc

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Arrowz
10-18-2015, 12:22 AM
doesnt run in my wooden pc

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lol wooden.

Hail
10-18-2015, 12:26 AM
So basically you guys want para to return, but if that fails you want sts to turn chaos gems into para? All I can say is LOL.

You guys wanted something to farm... go farm your noble gems. If para were re-introduced everyone will farm plenty of them and all of a sudden people will be running around with full para sets. I myself farmed 7 last Halloween event and that was only in the one week I played. Imagine how many gems there would be if everyone did such (which any one with a brain would do). Re-releasing them is not the answer, and don't get me started on substituting them with the exact same stats...

Arrowz
10-18-2015, 12:27 AM
So basically you guys want para to return, but if that fails you want sts to turn chaos gems into para? All I can say is LOL.

You guys wanted something to farm... go farm your noble gems. If para were re-introduced everyone will farm plenty of them and all of a sudden people will be running around with full para sets. I myself farmed 7 last Halloween event and that was only in the one week I played. Imagine how many gems there would be if everyone did such (which any one with a brain would do). Re-releasing them is not the answer, and don't get me started on substituting them with the exact same stats...

dex scene read here.

sevenpain
10-18-2015, 12:45 AM
At the end of the day is only rogue that want more then 1 para gem in gear

vawaid
10-18-2015, 09:56 PM
maybe giving fortified chaos jewel to platinum tier is worth it.

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DarrenPR
10-18-2015, 11:04 PM
So basically you guys want para to return, but if that fails you want sts to turn chaos gems into para? All I can say is LOL.

You guys wanted something to farm... go farm your noble gems. If para were re-introduced everyone will farm plenty of them and all of a sudden people will be running around with full para sets. I myself farmed 7 last Halloween event and that was only in the one week I played. Imagine how many gems there would be if everyone did such (which any one with a brain would do). Re-releasing them is not the answer, and don't get me started on substituting them with the exact same stats...

Are you against a permanently obtainable, tradeable form of the para gem? The only reason para gems were/are a problem in the first place is their exclusivity. If they were available to anybody who spent the time to farm them or to purchase them off other players, what would be the harm in that? Everybody would have the same chance to have full para gemmed equipment. Sure, the stats are ridiculous for para gem, but if everybody has those stats, it no longer becomes such an elite thing.

Caabatric
10-18-2015, 11:41 PM
So basically you guys want para to return, but if that fails you want sts to turn chaos gems into para? All I can say is LOL.

You guys wanted something to farm... go farm your noble gems. If para were re-introduced everyone will farm plenty of them and all of a sudden people will be running around with full para sets. I myself farmed 7 last Halloween event and that was only in the one week I played. Imagine how many gems there would be if everyone did such (which any one with a brain would do). Re-releasing them is not the answer, and don't get me started on substituting them with the exact same stats...

I would like to see your argument for putting choas as an equivalent to para, and a jewel on par with eye.

The only problem is the majority of players won't use all the jewels and diversity would be limited, but lets be honest, the new jewel system doesn't offer anything good except the primary stat jewels, which eye gems are better than...
(Nature beat by elo gems, water useless but is matched by necropolis skull, diamond beat by reinforced gems, light beat by eye, choas beat by para, fury = mind = finesse slightly better then grand gems)

pompous
10-19-2015, 01:11 AM
buff chaos noble to 2.0? xD

More. We need to outgrow Para. This game is still living in the past, which makes no sense.

Dex Scene
10-19-2015, 03:07 AM
dex scene read here.
I read that already and when he said Farm noble jewels I Loled back and understood its useless to reply.
Maybe some don't have a clue how op is first para bonus and how noble jewels don't stand a chance against it.
So called CARING FOR GAME statements.
I personally prefer the gaps between 2-3 para toons and maxed para toons than between 0 para toon vs 10 para toons.

Arrowz
10-19-2015, 09:50 AM
I read that already and when he said Farm noble jewels I Loled back and understood its useless to reply.
Maybe some don't have a clue how op is first para bonus and how noble jewels don't stand a chance against it.
So called CARING FOR GAME statements.
I personally prefer the gaps between 2-3 para toons and maxed para toons than between 0 para toon vs 10 para toons.

Have fun being 1 comboed even more. Ur wish

Zeus
10-19-2015, 10:01 AM
I read that already and when he said Farm noble jewels I Loled back and understood its useless to reply.
Maybe some don't have a clue how op is first para bonus and how noble jewels don't stand a chance against it.
So called CARING FOR GAME statements.
I personally prefer the gaps between 2-3 para toons and maxed para toons than between 0 para toon vs 10 para toons.

Twinks don't know what farming is. They don't do elites. :p