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Avaree
10-22-2015, 03:10 PM
why do the Warriors set have a halo and rogues dont? Is this the way its supposed to be?
Pls add a halo to the rogue's glintstone set.
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Ardbeg
10-22-2015, 03:33 PM
ha! puny little halo-less rogues!
Caabatric
10-22-2015, 03:53 PM
Why do rogues always get an extra vanity set during events??
Avaree
10-22-2015, 05:29 PM
Why do rogues always get an extra vanity set during events??
What vanity are you refering too?
twoxc
10-22-2015, 05:31 PM
screw the halo lol fix the stats on rogue set lol
Ferision
10-22-2015, 05:34 PM
I think the halo is from Mythic Aegis
Caabatric
10-22-2015, 06:08 PM
What vanity are you refering too?
cinder wings, halloween pumpkin set, monarch dress....either way the post was meant to be taken lightheartedly D;
Ebezaanec
10-22-2015, 06:39 PM
Ah, more ground effects!
Wonder what mage's looks like.
Schnitzel
10-22-2015, 06:41 PM
*sees glow from the rogue set*
http://i2.wp.com/www.lorainekv.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/a99176f17f98d40c567bce80a2707a2090dddb5e93468bca67 3bcc1b69c4ecf8.jpg?resize=448%2C256
At the very least they should dim the effect. Its an eye strain
Ebezaanec
10-22-2015, 07:09 PM
why do the Warriors set have a halo and rogues dont? Is this the way its supposed to be?
Pls add a halo to the rogue's glintstone set.
I know! It's a ploy to make the warrior class more 'attractive' for players! Very clever indeed, actually.
Everybody loves shiny stuff, right?
Wazakesy
10-22-2015, 08:25 PM
The halo effect is overriding the Arcane Ring's color? Or is it just super bright? @.@
Avaree
10-22-2015, 09:47 PM
screw the halo lol fix the stats on rogue set lol
I agree, the loss of HP and Mana for the amount of gold & time we put into the set is a bit of a kick in the teeth, i really really hope devs look into improve the lack of stats. I do like the bonus with the entagled traps, but that dont make up for the lack of mana and hp.
Hercules
10-22-2015, 10:25 PM
Maybe you must use arcane ring
Avaree
10-22-2015, 10:54 PM
Maybe you must use arcane ring
If we (all classes) want to use set bonus, all glintstone myth equipment (armor, ring, amulet, armor) must be equipped.
Vvildfire
10-23-2015, 12:33 AM
cinder wings, halloween pumpkin set, monarch dress....either way the post was meant to be taken lightheartedly D;
Well... It's not like rogues have Minotaur or Gargoyle... I think the pumpkin vanity is the rogue version of those two.
I agree with Cinder wings, I want my Sorcerer to have more wings too ^^
Vvildfire
10-23-2015, 12:35 AM
Is the white blinding light the rogue set effect?
I like the idea of different effects for each class :)
Jazzi
10-23-2015, 01:23 AM
If you check the announcement in this thread: http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?258187-Teaser-Friday-Mythic-Gear-Stats!
you will see that the rogue set actually has the announced ground effect (showcased in the thread on a warrior), whereas the warrior set has currently a different one. I'd assume that the warrior set is bugged.
As for the stats, the damage loss aside as it is was clear in advance that there will be a big loss there, it really is a matter of gems/jewels you one uses. I have seen some players who have actually used eye gems and they do have over 5000 health and about 1700 mana. Ofc those eye gems are extremely expensive and out of reach for 99% of the players, which brings us back to the failed jewel system. The latter and the failure to optimize/make efficient the warrior class being the 2 main issues in the game currently.
Serancha
10-23-2015, 05:43 AM
I Wish they wouldn't use swirling, flashing and overly bright light effects. There are many players who suffer from migraines and seizures. Features like this are inconsiderate at best, and dangerous at worst.
Sakurahb
10-23-2015, 06:58 AM
Each class have a different effect, here's the mage one :
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/23/89ab164243c1f5f20f0c95e033641098.jpg
Avaree
10-23-2015, 07:16 AM
If you check the announcement in this thread: http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?258187-Teaser-Friday-Mythic-Gear-Stats!
you will see that the rogue set actually has the announced ground effect (showcased in the thread on a warrior), whereas the warrior set has currently a different one. I'd assume that the warrior set is bugged.
As for the stats, the damage loss aside as it is was clear in advance that there will be a big loss there, it really is a matter of gems/jewels you one uses. I have seen some players who have actually used eye gems and they do have over 5000 health and about 1700 mana. Ofc those eye gems are extremely expensive and out of reach for 99% of the players, which brings us back to the failed jewel system. The latter and the failure to optimize/make efficient the warrior class being the 2 main issues in the game currently.
I agree 110%. I'm a huge supporter of wanting improvement with warrior class.
Yes, sts showed us the stats inadvance, and while i agree using eyes to make up for the lack of stats, but the majority of the players worked (or are working) hard to achieve this set, cannot afford eyes to make up for the lack of HP and mana. Like i have said the trap is fun, but the lack of HP and mana is underwhelming.
Also the trap does not stun for 4 seconds (like stated in the link you provided) was looking for that link :) ty
Avaree
10-23-2015, 07:25 AM
I Wish they wouldn't use swirling, flashing and overly bright light effects. There are many players who suffer from migraines and seizures. Features like this are inconsiderate at best, and dangerous at worst.
I would rather see a ground effect like the vigilant pavis or arcane ring halo seen in opening post. At the very least, toning down the brightness on the rogues' ground effect would be greatly appreciated :)
Ticklish
10-23-2015, 08:57 AM
I agree, the rogue glintstone set's ground effect is blinding. It's like Paracelsus Stone's glow the first time they released it! Hate that it's recycled from the effects of the event bane items too (Elondrian Ward, Cleansing Stone, Necronomnomicon, Orb of Ursume)
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Tatman
10-23-2015, 03:53 PM
All these visual effects have become utterly annoying and give me headaches. If you ask me, most of them should be removed. For example the arcane ring one.
Sfubi
10-23-2015, 04:27 PM
It would be nice if STS would tell us the released product will be different than previously reported. There have been changes in a few areas, unfortunately the Glinstone stats remain the same.
The brightness could definitely be toned down a bit and I agree the Rogue effect is pathetic compared to the warrior and mage. All three effects are basic recolors of other ground effects.....
Following are screenshots of all information concerning Glimtstone Mythic gear posted by various sts employees.
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Ebezaanec
10-23-2015, 06:31 PM
I figured the ground effect would actually have something to do with 'glintstones.'
Maybe crystals sprouting from the ground around your character?
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Amvulpix
10-24-2015, 07:27 AM
screw the halo lol fix the stats on rogue set lol
The set is fine , any more damage upgrades and this game is done for warriors to even survive from rogues
Hercules
10-24-2015, 08:05 AM
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rip p.v.p visbility
Lol crazy it shows fine on my side
Ssneakykills
10-24-2015, 01:37 PM
A town full of players with full crafted glintstone set would be so bright you could use your screen as a torch
mesalin
10-24-2015, 02:12 PM
A town full of players with full crafted glintstone set would be so bright you could use your screen as a torch
Haha + add their para gems shining and ethyl.
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Ticklish
10-25-2015, 08:17 AM
The set is fine , any more damage upgrades and this game is done for warriors to even survive from rogues
Notice he said stats, not damage. The glintstone set's damage isn't THAT bad, considering the skill trade-off. It's the hp and mana that's utterly laughable. 4.2k hp and 1.3k mana, on a full 7/7/7 dex glintstone set, is sad, just sad. Rogues already spam mana potions like crazy. And they have the short end of the stick on these sets being useless in pvp.
Now, I realize that these adjustments are due to the balance we're trying to achieve here. With the warrior set and weap being focused on taunting and tanking, rogues are now likely to include a tank in a party for survivability. However, 4.2k hp is a ridiculous amount of health in current maps. I'm not looking for anything close to what we have right now, with rogues being half tanks. I think and increase of 200-300 hp and mana would be great, given the amount of hard work (or gold, mostly) these sets entail. That would bring up health to 4.4-4.5k which is what non-planar pendant users would have right now. And the mana up to 1.5k (lol), which would be greatly appreciated considering that we have no mana-repleneshing skills and rely solely on spamming potions.
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Titanium
10-25-2015, 08:25 AM
Yesterday I started to do the orcslayer quests and i managed to finish. I'm going ahead to craft the myth helm after the Haloween event. But I don't know how armor and helm can work together with mana that low. I would burn 80% of my mana using one simple combo.
Ticklish
10-25-2015, 08:40 AM
Yesterday I started to do the orcslayer quests and i managed to finish. I'm going ahead to craft the myth helm after the Haloween event. But I don't know how armor and helm can work together with mana that low. I would burn 80% of my mana using one simple combo.
You'll be fine if you only use the glintstone helm and armor. They're both good pieces, with a substantial damage and armor increase. My gripe is STS designed the quest so that you need to finish both ring and amulet to get to the armor.
If orc fangs remain at a steady price of 30k a piece, crafting the whole glintstone set would cost one 15.75M in 525 orc fangs alone.
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Ticklish
10-25-2015, 08:46 AM
I agree 110%. I'm a huge supporter of wanting improvement with warrior class.
Yes, sts showed us the stats inadvance, and while i agree using eyes to make up for the lack of stats, but the majority of the players worked (or are working) hard to achieve this set, cannot afford eyes to make up for the lack of HP and mana. Like i have said the trap is fun, but the lack of HP and mana is underwhelming.
Also the trap does not stun for 4 seconds (like stated in the link you provided) was looking for that link :) ty
To add to my previous post, if we indeed needed eyes to make up for the lack of HP and mana on the glintstone set.
15.75m in orc fangs + 6-9 eyes @ 4m (low estimate) each = GG stash :)
Titanium
10-25-2015, 08:49 AM
You'll be fine if you only use the glintstone helm and armor. They're both good pieces, with a substantial damage and armor increase. My gripe is STS designed the quest so that you need to finish both ring and amulet to get to the armor.
If orc fangs remain at a steady price of 30k a piece, crafting the whole glintstone set would cost one 15.75M in 525 orc fangs alone.
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I'm asking myself same question. I would like to choose what piece I want from the glinstone set, it should've been implemented from the starters but nothing to do right now about it. Actually it might be something, besides asking for crappy updates like respec weekend, plat sale weekend, double nothing weekend or whatever people think to do these days . How about a double fangs weekend ? Since everybody lacks farming fangs.
Madnex
10-25-2015, 09:14 AM
I'm asking myself same question. I would like to choose what piece I want from the glinstone set, it should've been implemented from the starters but nothing to do right now about it. Actually it might be something, besides asking for crappy updates like respec weekend, plat sale weekend, double nothing weekend or whatever people think to do these days . How about a double fangs weekend ? Since everybody lacks farming fangs.
The mythic set's piece order is like that because it's an artificial time sink. The higher the lack of meaningful content in a game, the more of those time sinks you'll see (eg. jewels). It's common sense that most people would solely go for helm and armor if there were such an option available.
Jazzi
10-25-2015, 10:21 AM
The mythic set's piece order is like that because it's an artificial time sink. The higher the lack of meaningful content in a game, the more of those time sinks you'll see (eg. jewels). It's common sense that most people would solely go for helm and armor if there were such an option available.
"lack of meaningful content" is spot on. This season is full of artificial bottlenecks for gear, which is not even worth it. Even the events are not very exciting. The only reason the forum is not full of complaints about the Halloween event is that they at least gave us a new mythic weapon (smart move there).
Ticklish
10-26-2015, 08:15 AM
The mythic set's piece order is like that because it's an artificial time sink. The higher the lack of meaningful content in a game, the more of those time sinks you'll see (eg. jewels). It's common sense that most people would solely go for helm and armor if there were such an option available.
This makes me really wonder what is in store for us next season, if the point of the current expansion is to farm 1-2 elite maps over and over in order to complete the glintstone set and jewel it. It had better be good.
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Jazzi
10-26-2015, 08:21 AM
This makes me really wonder what is in store for us next season, if the point of the current expansion is to farm 1-2 elite maps over and over in order to complete the glintstone set and jewel it. It had better be good.
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If nothing else, at least it will be super easy to make gear better than the lvl 46 mythics and thus ensure progression :P
Ticklish
10-26-2015, 08:22 AM
If nothing else, at least it will be super easy to make gear better than the lvl 46 mythics and thus ensure progression :P
Aw hell no. *dies*
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Jazzi
10-26-2015, 08:27 AM
Aw hell no. *dies*
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Imagine if the lvl51 legendaries would be worse than that lovely lvl 46 mythic set. We would be back to lvl 31 stats ;)
Jazzi
10-26-2015, 11:27 AM
We can blame the nab warriors for this, *cough* make*cough*mages and rogues weaker*cough* so they run with us...
Hehe, it is not them who made it like this. Also it just seems that buffing warriors would have been made less people discontent then practically nerfing mages and rogues :)
Ticklish
10-27-2015, 08:05 AM
Hehe, it is not them who made it like this. Also it just seems that buffing warriors would have been made less people discontent then practically nerfing mages and rogues :)
The rogue glintstone set makes a nerfed rogue...
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Jazzi
10-27-2015, 08:14 AM
The rogue glintstone set makes a nerfed rogue...
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True and exactly what I said in my previous post. Just with more words ;)
A town full of players with full crafted glintstone set would be so bright you could use your screen as a torch
If you launch your device into space, it becomes a large star.
leeelooo
10-28-2015, 12:08 PM
Who in their right mind wants to farm and put in the time and effort for a set that's going to give worse stats than the set you currently use? I guess I'm just not in my right mind. I have glintstone set and I put some jewels in the helm and armor and it's still not quite as good as my previous set. The effect of the rogue set is so bright I can't wear it for longer than a couple minutes without getting a headache. I only equip the entire set when someone wants to see it. Also, it definitely needs more health and mana.
Jexetta
10-28-2015, 03:00 PM
"We believe the set bonus skill is worth the stat loss" smh
Schnitzel
10-28-2015, 05:23 PM
If you launch your smurf into outer space it becomes a shooting star?
It becomes a Shooting Smurf*
leeelooo
10-29-2015, 12:38 AM
*tosses trap*
KingMartin
10-29-2015, 08:12 AM
The (opportunity) cost of farming the myth set are enormous. If I understand correctly, it's better to skip?
But what goals can a PvE player have in this season? I may be doing the biggest mistake in the game, but I am slowly collecting the needed ingredients.
zerofort
10-30-2015, 02:19 AM
I think sts is trying to fix the major imbalances they made the last few seasons. Ik its hard to have armor thats weaker stat wise but sts rly messed up the last couple season with the crazy stat boost qnd gems they came out with one of the reasons why wars are not needed anymore. Each class needs 2 have not just slight weaknesses but significant weaknesses so they will party with other classes to make up for it. Sts almost ruined there game making it so rouges were all around number1 thats crazy. After the major imbalances sts cuzed it will take time to fix and it may not be perfect but its better then 1 class rules them all
Avaree
10-31-2015, 02:49 PM
I think sts is trying to fix the major imbalances they made the last few seasons. Ik its hard to have armor thats weaker stat wise but sts rly messed up the last couple season with the crazy stat boost qnd gems they came out with one of the reasons why wars are not needed anymore. Each class needs 2 have not just slight weaknesses but significant weaknesses so they will party with other classes to make up for it. Sts almost ruined there game making it so rouges were all around number1 thats crazy. After the major imbalances sts cuzed it will take time to fix and it may not be perfect but its better then 1 class rules them all
While i agree STS is trying to fix the major imbalances, and this ( glintstone sets) is a step in the right direction, however the rogue's glintstone set does need a little more buff in mana & hp. The weakness we are granted while wearing the full set is a major weakness, not a slight weakness. It can be very difficult for me to run elite maps without a tank who doesn't have a glint weap and or the full set. Also, not many players have or want to achieve the glintstone set, so the class imbalances are still there.
Xorrior
10-31-2015, 03:27 PM
The (opportunity) cost of farming the myth set are enormous. If I understand correctly, it's better to skip?
But what goals can a PvE player have in this season? I may be doing the biggest mistake in the game, but I am slowly collecting the needed ingredients.
We prolly wasting/wasted tons of gold on a useless set that is already outdated by our previous gear, meaning it will be next to useless come level 51 cap. I can't help feeling I got trolled.