Arcane Legends Hotfix | November 16, 2015

[AAA]

News:

Medium Birthday Cakes now grant 500 gold to up to three other players in the area.

[Spell]

Haha nice update

[Mythiclash]

Omg

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[Jeremiah-prince Emokpae]

LOOOOOOOOOL ggggg

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[Cheesovy]

Hahahaha nice

[Rome]

feq hahahaha

[nightmaresmoke]

Too late lolz

[Andrisber]

Was fun while it lasted. gg

[Anyona]

Lol
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[Okatare]

News:

Medium Birthday Cakes now grant 500 gold to up to three other players in the area.

Taaaadaaasa
:banana::banana::banana:

[imbd]

Well it was expected

[Cross]

That sucks.

[asimauara]

Awesome that's really cool

[Ceuidear]

An update to remove a 0 :p

[habibinadem]

Still profitable :p

[DK]

Awwwww :( Nooo :S

[Iisolah]

:( /11 chars

[Pillowhead]

OMG, I'm done.
SO DONE.

[xxxhiraxxx]

:'D :'D :'D great

[Aldialdi]

wow big update for many player :)

[asimauara]

I think they mean 500 gold in addition to the 5k guys.

[galihbrahima]

Rich people problem..... If u know what I mean

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[Dex Putra]

wowww woww woww wowww..!

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[Mehmet Tuncay]

thanks please surge why dont in massive lock lm open massive 150 dont out surge againl need surge

[Bluebatthing]

Bawhahaha I feel sorry for the hoarders

[Anasinator]

Saw that coming!

[Iove]

it best event of year.. now no more... gratz fest..i will logoff now..

3 years to celebrate ??? no more =((

[Mehmet Tuncay]

l want shadyand surge please remiem yesterday 150 massive open but no shady and surge l need shady and surge please remiem l love you l love arcanelegend

[Fiasaria]

.-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-.
the right day when i was starting to earn some gold T-T

[Zylx]

Woohoo, game fixed ^.^

[Shackler]

You guys fed up the best event you have ever made. Gg now no one will open those useless cakes.


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[DarrenPR]

Much needed update. Thank you guys.

[galileogalilei]

thats too bad im saving more medium now become trashs.

[nathan2693]

wow. now our "gold"en days have come to and end. wahahahahahaha

[Jazzi]

jewel time now

[Darkluciferx]

Is unfair i have bought 1000 medium cakes, spent 13m and now its 500 gold each med.
i lost all -.-

[ucupduyeh]

Aww..u ruin the party. Soooooo bad

[Endkey 2.0]

GG..............

[cenx]

Why sts why ????
This is big party of Arcane Legend's players..

OK I'm done .. This not cool party ..

Thanks for 5k before :)

[Gabrielcabral]

Unfair update :/

[Iove]

Is unfair i have bought 1000 medium cakes, spent 13m and now its 500 gold each med.
i lost all -.-

ohh =((((((( all losing gold with that

[nathan2693]

bye bye "gold"en days

[Valkiryas]

Sorry guys but "Exploit" the "Medium Cakes" wasn't farm at all, I mean was everithing a lazy trick.

Can you see the actual market? Now a mythic weapon worth almost 1+M than before, this was worst than the old Platinum Farming.

I really support the idea of 50p gold and I think that everyone that exploit the cake trick should be banned at least for few days, the platinum farmers were banned too, this was a worst trick so they should be banned too.

[Iove]

sts remake it =((, see comments, only the rich peoples saying thanks for the update, see majority dont liked it, make any please =[[[

[Haligali]

back to pvp.

A very quiet, sneaky update eh..

[Midievalmodel]

This was a necessary fix for the longevity of this game. Unfortunately STG sloppy ways have ruined this game for the short term. But if they did not fix this gold farming problem this game would go in the toilet forever.

[KingMartin]

Bots and abusers applaud because they've been making 25-30m a day.

Those that were farming slices, crafted cakes and shared loot in party applaud a bit less.

I was hoping for different fix: untradable cakes.

[Redjellydonut]

Relax guys this means cakes will go down...inflation will go down...eggs,weapons, ect. will go down in price too :)

[Pillowhead]

What about the people that have bought 100-500 medium cakes? You should have told us 12H before you did this update.

[saphirae]

The best thing in this game is you dont even have to play at all just stand in front of cs buy rens and click on platinum purchase and dont even move from camp in your golden diamond gear... THATS THE GAME POINT! This is a game, we should play and earn mostly dont you think so sts????

[Bameely]

In my entire gaming life this is the FIRST game I experienced where dev/GM keep changing their game/event mechanics HALFWAY THRU EVENT. I agree its unprofessional and making yr players lose faith & respect.

[Ravintov]

350 medium :( sad.
Btw ty make me profit before this.

[extrapayah]

no fix for underwhelming grand cakes?

at the moment it can only give one of five possible loot to max 4 people... which can be as bad as giving 4 cake slices to 4 people....

[Ramboo]

Correction: best event for those with multiple devices.

My respect for STS was raised with this update ♡

Thanks for fixing

Various i know did not use multiple devices. I personally farmed all slices and continous crafting managed to get a huge amout of medium cakes and i would list them in Cs. I wasnt aware of the Thing acquainting for multiple devices. Good Job though i personally applaud them, all those Cake hoarders went down to missery, i personally crafted 200 medium Cakes and now lost everything. No point in still playing the game. This Update will ruin half of AL. But if you are Trying to accuse me of using multiple devices i did not, and i have proof to show if needed.

[Excuses]

It was fun 3days. Lol

For me, - 1m for arcane pets were worse market than now tbh.
Nekro being 6m is nothing but fair compared with the days when Sam was +20m and nekro was +60m.

At least a day of notice would be appreciated before update tho.
But not gonna rant. Gg

[Gabrielcabral]

Nice now the event is over...

[Edward Coug]

What about the people that have bought 100-500 medium cakes? You should have told us 12H before you did this update.

Did you really not think that STG wasn't going to fix this first thing on Monday? I hate to say it, but if you got stuck holding the bag, you were done in by greed.

[Thrindal]

Sorry guys but "Exploit" the "Medium Cakes" wasn't farm at all, I mean was everithing a lazy trick.

Can you see the actual market? Now a mythic weapon worth almost 1+M than before, this was worst than the old Platinum Farming.

I really support the idea of 50p gold and I think that everyone that exploit the cake trick should be banned at least for few days, the platinum farmers were banned too, this was a worst trick so they should be banned too.

The problem isn't that they changed the medium crates it is that the damage is now done and the economy is screwed for anyone that played fair. The exploiters have their money. Beyond that my steel commando is worthless.

I have more gold now then before the event but it is worth less than what I had before.

I hope STS gives more of an explanation and owns this one. This may be about the biggest screw up in AL history, something else to celebrate annually.

Lots of folks are mad for lots of reasons. I don't think sts can fix it but they should at least say sorry and tell us what happened.

[Ascents]

Change back now or forever loose your money!

[Thrindal]

Relax guys this means cakes will go down...inflation will go down...eggs,weapons, ect. will go down in price too :)

Not quite, there was a massive gold dump into the game and it unfairly benefitted some and punished others.

This will take longer to fix then it did to create and it's not even close.

[Burwaka]

Nice: they nerved their own birthday....

But aren't able to fix a simple little vanity toms bug glitching with other vanities...


GG

[Onlylovez]

well. this event was fun for some that haved farm for 3 days earlier and earned and make ppl that keep their cake and farmer that farm cake rage due to it suddenly decreased 90% from actual drop. i just hope if it was 500 gold it start from day 1. some game would make a rollback for fairness but rollback is impossible due to this 3 days have thousand of ppl purchasing plat and opening locked. what is done cant be undone. just hope the future event will be more stable will no imbalance for player. =)

[oneazeli]

Few points to note here :
1) How will STS counter the inflation already in the CS?
2) Med @ 500 is ridiculous. At least add a cracked to the mix.
3) Thanks for the windfall !!! Still deem it best B'day ever !!

[Arkiouj]

Please fix events BEFORE you release them... it's becoming a joke. We had all that with re-rolling Energy essences and now this.

You can't keep releasing events with these bugs and 'exploits'.

This is a good fix though imo since prices are getting stupid again... needed to be done on the first day though not midway.

[Arrowz]

All u people complaining about this update are downright insane. 2-3 days of it was fine and all will agree it was great while it lasted, but lets be honest, another 4 days of this would most assuredly not be good for the economy. QUIT COMPLAINING THAT U HAD THE BEST FARMING OPPORTUNITY IN THE HISTORY OF ARCANE LEGENDS THAT ENABLED YOU TO MAKE MILLIONS OF GOLD IN A SINGLE DAY. WTF IS WRONG WITH U

[danley]

I thought the event ends Thursdays.. lol!

[Ovacal]

Too late somebody already have more golds

[Gabrielcabral]

Plss put it back 5k gold

[xmami]

I won't complain too much.

But rich players are definitely richer and even more ahead. They got their fill and then spill the beans and spoil it for others. They are like that one student that reminds the teacher that they forgot to give us homework.

With that being said...not to sound ungrateful but..just 500g?? Not even 2k or 1k? Lol

Anyways whatever floats y'alls boat. Nice event. Just wish there was a balloon BOW and not just daggers :( the majority of rogues I know use bows

[Gabrielcabral]

Revert plsssssssss plssss plsssss plsssss plssss or atleast put anything on mix!!! Cracked jewels on medium!!! Or insignias!!! Anything!!! Intact orc fangs would be amazing!!!!

[Hadec]

Sorry guys but "Exploit" the "Medium Cakes" wasn't farm at all, I mean was everithing a lazy trick.

Can you see the actual market? Now a mythic weapon worth almost 1+M than before, this was worst than the old Platinum Farming.

I really support the idea of 50p gold and I think that everyone that exploit the cake trick should be banned at least for few days, the platinum farmers were banned too, this was a worst trick so they should be banned too.

sounds so smart!!!ban 70% of people maybe more who did it...how didnt i thought of that?:D

[Ruzada]

Sorry guys but "Exploit" the "Medium Cakes" wasn't farm at all, I mean was everithing a lazy trick.

Can you see the actual market? Now a mythic weapon worth almost 1+M than before, this was worst than the old Platinum Farming.

I really support the idea of 50p gold and I think that everyone that exploit the cake trick should be banned at least for few days, the platinum farmers were banned too, this was a worst trick so they should be banned too.

Its not a trick, its smart business! I dont see anything that can lead to ban here :D

[oekeone]

Wtf sts we were increasing the economy Zzzzz

[Darkluciferx]

First at all I want to say thanks To sts, because this was The best event in the Arcane Legends in my 3 year i´ve playing. Im dissapointing, You should have told us a time before you did this update.
We all hope you fix this problem. Med drop only 500 gold? this a joke.

[Energizeric]

It was this kind of management of the economy that lead to this sort of thing.....

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And in case you were wondering, my understanding is that this was not even enough to buy a gallon of milk....

It's great to think you are earning gold, but prices were creeping up faster than you could open those medium cakes. It would have ruined the game if it had continued, and we would have been seeing 100m items again.

[galileogalilei]

500 gold for a reason stop crafting medium and stop da event and the end quitting da game lol

[Iplo]

Did you really think that they won't patch this? I was 100 % sure when i found this out.. You guys shouldnt buy like 500 med cakes and not open them right away.. I can only laugh. Still I'm sorry for your loss but im sure you still made even some gold. :)

[Upperbound]

Lol. So much drama. ;) good fix sts but could be earlier. You should have support on weekends monitoring the game.

[crudmudgeon]

This was a terriffic event... until STS slapped 90% losses on everyone waiting to open medium cakes... the economy in game was stimulated just enough to get hopes up... people saw dreams of farmed millions coming true this weak... bought all the cakes they could... and now have a reason to rage quit

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[Devaux]

Meh what ev 4.9m in 3 days is fine with me:-) ps wasn't exploiting if we were farming and crafting was it? I have 9 toons I switched between painfully to do this so...anyways happy bday AL lol remien giving guilt trip in new post made me feel bad forgot it's a celebration got greedy for a sec hehe XD

[saphirae]

Dear sts ppl earn gold in km3 by farming and selling rens, THEY TOTTALY EXPLOIT THAT MAP.... STOP THEM!!!! PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

[Dimitrian]

My brother farmed cakes all weekend long from 100k to a mil or so to get his own mythic weapon.
Think about his face when he would've seen this in the middle of the weekend.

And by the way,you did this on AL's birthday,the game which bought you more money than any other legacy game.And we,the community,are the ones who gave you money to make better content for AL, but instead you made Call of Noobs and The Rage Quit of the Ren'lol, yet you are failing us.
In the most polite way i can,i ask why? Why do you do this?

And yes,i know you are making the next AL expansion.But if you made it with the same lazyness as you made the expansion which we have been wating for a year and a half...that isn't an expansion.

[Serancha]

What I don't get is why people were spending 15k on cakes, just to open them and get 15k.

[Dimitrian]

What I don't get is why people were spending 15k on cakes, just to open them and get 15k.
You could farm them.Then 15k profit.
Magic!

[crudmudgeon]

Correction: best event for those with multiple devices.

My respect for STS was raised with this update ♡

Thanks for fixing
U didn't make anymore with multidevuce than partying with close friends... don't be so dramatic

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[crudmudgeon]

Sorry guys but "Exploit" the "Medium Cakes" wasn't farm at all, I mean was everithing a lazy trick.

Can you see the actual market? Now a mythic weapon worth almost 1+M than before, this was worst than the old Platinum Farming.

I really support the idea of 50p gold and I think that everyone that exploit the cake trick should be banned at least for few days, the platinum farmers were banned too, this was a worst trick so they should be banned too.
It was NOT lazy to those undergeared auto41s that FINALLY found a way to afford good gear... this event was going incredibly well... temporary price spike included.
Those patient ones would sit on their newfound hoard and wait for poppers to increase supply again.
Only ones for nerfing the payout are those megamillionaires that don't bother farming anymore... they just beat up lil kids and steal their lunch money

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[Elichka]

wow some people thought this event would hold up until Thursday. RIP AL birthday hahahahaa. Thank you for the update, many people would like to return to the more important things in life until Winter event. Have fun all the other crybabies who won't really be able to do anything without plat ^_^ hugs and kissessss

[Serancha]

Plus one small cake.


You could farm them.Then 15k profit.
Magic!

Well yes, but it is the buying of them I don't get. You can farm for 5 seconds and get the makings for one small cake.

[Anehazaz]

Reply from Sts

It's my party and I'll fix if I want to
Fix if I want to, fix if I want to
you would fix too if it happened to you!

[Sfubi]

Remiem's closed thread statemenet:
Default Regarding Today's Change to Medium Cakes
Hi everyone! As you know, today we published an update to decrease the payout of the Medium Birthday Cakes. Our intention for these cakes was for players to share with friends and spread the joy and spirit of giving to celebrate this big milestone in the history of Arcane Legends. Unfortunately, we saw this exploited by a few players. For this reason we made the decision to reduce the payout of the Medium Cakes and to allow the event to continue because we know most players are having fun partaking in the spirit of the celebration just as we hoped.

It's important to know that we came to the decision to change the gold drop amount based on internal data we have, not based any forum posts or private messages. Please remember to keep the forums a clean, constructive, and friendly place. It's a birthday party, after all!
End quote.

Since "a few players" didnt share, STS decides to punish everyone but the people who didnt share.

You could have put a temporay ban on those few players through Saturday. That would have allowed the majority who did share continue.

Instead you have punished the majority and "a few players" are moving right along with maxed gold.

Great decision....

[Anyona]

Well yes, but it is the buying of them I don't get. You can farm for 5 seconds and get the makings for one small cake.

People using bots would by say 100, they'd get about 50-70 small cakes back. They'd make some profit off of the 13-14k ones bought off of cs but most of the profit would be made by the crafting of the medium cakes using the small cakes dropped by the cs bought mediums.

[Serancha]

People using bots would by say 100, they'd get about 50-70 small cakes back. They'd make some profit off of the 13-14k ones bought off of cs but most of the profit would be made by the crafting of the medium cakes using the small cakes dropped by the cs bought mediums.

So they sit there buying all those cakes, then gather 3 alts in a map, open the cakes and have the alts pass back the contents. It would take less time and effort to just to do a few runs and bake them. People amaze me with how hard they will work to "not play" a game.

[saphirae]

All u people complaining about this update are downright insane. 2-3 days of it was fine and all will agree it was great while it lasted, but lets be honest, another 4 days of this would most assuredly not be good for the economy. QUIT COMPLAINING THAT U HAD THE BEST FARMING OPPORTUNITY IN THE HISTORY OF ARCANE LEGENDS THAT ENABLED YOU TO MAKE MILLIONS OF GOLD IN A SINGLE DAY. WTF IS WRONG WITH U

oh when millions of gold is made by platinum in 1 day its ok, and when its farmed and earned by farming, crafting and opening with friends its bad???? Thank you sooooo much for this.. You enlighted me :P

[Elichka]

One question: WHERE IS THE FIRST COMMENT I WROTE TO THIS THREAD?!

[DarrenPR]

So they sit there buying all those cakes, then gather 3 alts in a map, open the cakes and have the alts pass back the contents. It would take less time and effort to just to do a few runs and bake them. People amaze me with how hard they will work to "not play" a game.

It's actually interesting to see such outrage over the people who "exploited" the cakes. I don't see much of a difference between the "exploit" and opening equal numbers of cakes with 3 of your closest friends.

Regarding your statement about farming the cakes: that was extreme profit too. The only problem with that method was the crafting slots required. Unless you have 10-20 characters on a single account, you would be limited to crafting 5 small cakes per 30 minutes... Not as good as opening 500 mediums in 10 minutes, selling 500 small cakes in 5 minutes and repeating the process for hours on end.

Either way, I think we all need to realize the inflation from just the 4 days it was insane, and another 3 would have been far too much.

[Titanium]

" are people who made 20m+ "

First of all, for me "booting" is total bs in the wind to brainwash the community. It wasn't no booting. I know about someone who was able to make 10m in the first day buying slice and crafting with plat. I doubt any "f2p way" worked so good to make more than 20m. I don't believe that. I have too many questions for STS and i guess they are too busy changing their mind once again till tomorrow about anything. And i'm not going to sit here and cry " Why STS WHY " . I'm too old in this game to be surprised about anything which affect the market. I'm born ready for any market breakdown. Been here and did that 100 times . I'm still on my fit ! Thank you STS for this awesome event though.

[Edward Coug]

This was a terriffic event... until STS slapped 90% losses on everyone waiting to open medium cakes... the economy in game was stimulated just enough to get hopes up... people saw dreams of farmed millions coming true this weak... bought all the cakes they could... and now have a reason to rage quit

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It's not farming when you buy cakes. Not sure why you waited to open.

[Oursizes]

Well yes, but it is the buying of them I don't get. You can farm for 5 seconds and get the makings for one small cake.

but then you need to wait 30 minutes for it. thing is with 4 toons you could spam open 500 cakes in brackenridge over and over again and make 1.5m+ in like 15 minutes. with farming you had to actually kill monsters whereas exploiters could macro buy from cs spam open repeat, earn like 4m+/hr

[KingMartin]

So they sit there buying all those cakes, then gather 3 alts in a map, open the cakes and have the alts pass back the contents. It would take less time and effort to just to do a few runs and bake them. People amaze me with how hard they will work to "not play" a game.

Spot-on. The event was degraded by STS thanks to people that actually don't run any map. Sad but true.

[Elichka]

Wow... They delete comments they don't like... They change their mind during events and change the rules... they favoritize some players over others... totalitarianism overload ^_^ hehee... who is the children here? This made my day.... but also wasted my time. And time is precious... sooooooooooooo bye. Feel free to delete this one too silly crybabies.

[Bluebatthing]

If STS wanted to inject Gold into the economy to make opening Locked crates feasible again, making the cakes non tradeable makes much more sense than reducing the amount of gold payout from the cakes. This way people will have to actually farm (OMG!!!) to make profit from this event instead of spamming the CS. Why they didn't take this approach is a mystery to me.

[galileogalilei]

im agree with you, sts enjoying birthday yourself cuz im stop running

[DarrenPR]

If STS wanted to inject Gold into the economy to make opening Locked crates feasible again, making the cakes non tradeable makes much more sense than reducing the amount of gold payout from the cakes. This way people will have to actually farm (OMG!!!) to make profit from this event instead of spamming the CS. Why they didn't take this approach is a mystery to me.

Making the cakes non tradable from the start of the event is what they should have done.

In the future, if ever there is an event where money can be made, please make the money maker non tradable.

[KingMartin]

If STS wanted to inject Gold into the economy to make opening Locked crates feasible again, making the cakes non tradeable makes much more sense than reducing the amount of gold payout from the cakes. This way people will have to actually farm (OMG!!!) to make profit from this event instead of spamming the CS. Why they didn't take this approach is a mystery to me.

Exactly. We can't stash energies and sell pendants but we could trade gold made of thin air (cakes). If everyone were to really play the game and farm his moneybags, problem would have been sold.

Well, we have 46 levels with couple of PvE kills, so one should not be surprised. PvE is played only by people that really love that good old AL. Why can't we get a bit of new loot from the old bosses (jewels, vials, fangs) is a mystery to me.

[Pras Etyo]

Wow wonderfull make all item be good price again in auction

[Sweetkitty]

No exploitation occurred. Just people playing the event in the most profitable way. It's fine they changed it but no need for them to blame their poor planning on clever players.

[Woundedwarrior]

Hmm I'm pretty sure any one who knows what they are doing and understands the economy are able to see why this was such a problem. For everyone who keeps saying the event is ruined, trust me its not. I'm kinda disapointed sts even did this whole event without considering the consequences. I think many people right away realized how bad it was to include the 5k drop from the medium cake, so I'm not entirely sure what sts was thinking. I feel bad for all the hard working, honest people who just lost a lot of value on their gold. Oh well, life goes on.

[Bluebatthing]

Making the cakes non tradable from the start of the event is what they should have done.

That would've been ideal. However, instead of fixing the situation with a sound solution, they decided to kill the event, as it's simply not worth farming anymore. In the end, the only ones who truly benefited are the kabilionaires and the "few players" (most likely the same people) mentioned in Remien's post about the hot fix.

[Devaux]

Lmao spot on *round of applause *

[hazmi]

rage quit sounds really good right now...

[Schnitzel]

This is why we can't have nice things :(

[Traosabara]

Anyone complaining about this patch is completely missing the point. The intended objective of this event is to collect birthday tokens so you can buy special vanities to celebrate 3 years of Arcane Legends. The gold and jewels dropped from cakes are just a bonus.

Why does an event have to be profitable to be "good"? Not everything in game needs to be about you getting rich.

[foreveryoung]

Dis event is boring now...vanities will flood in auc by opening grand instead of medium cakes....



Its better to quit, then to repeat....
-balbal

[Bluebatthing]

Anyone complaining about this patch is completely missing the point. The intended objective of this event is to collect birthday tokens so you can buy special vanities to celebrate 3 years of Arcane Legends. The gold and jewels dropped from cakes are just a bonus.

Why does an event have to be profitable to be "good"? Not everything in game needs to be about you getting rich.

I'll tell you what's not good: the feeling you get when you aimlessly roam about Expedition Camp pondering about your insignificant existence in the world of Arlor while everyone around you are glowing with arcane rings, para gem, latest mythic set asking yourself "WTF?!?!?"

So, it's nice to be rich.

[Upperbound]

The easiest way was selectedto fix a problem. Again without thinking. Exploiters kept their benefit and other are disappointed. Thats a bad service in all terms.

[Xseventier]

Oh.. Nooo!!!
Now Birthday Event is Bad Event Now :(

[Adonisius]

No comments

[Oursizes]

Anyone complaining about this patch is completely missing the point. The intended objective of this event is to collect birthday tokens so you can buy special vanities to celebrate 3 years of Arcane Legends. The gold and jewels dropped from cakes are just a bonus.

Why does an event have to be profitable to be "good"? Not everything in game needs to be about you getting rich.

Yes this was intention, but how was sts to even know that some greedy players would end up nolifing for 72 hours opening medium cakes with pt of alts

[debitmandiri]

To the one who complaining, it is better as it is now than we have "few" players make 10-20m a day abusing this system. Ur money will be worthless if u r not become another follower of abusers

[ketoh]

congratulations for someone who protest with this 5k

[Golem]

Haha nice update


News:

Medium Birthday Cakes now grant 500 gold to up to three other players in the area.


am so sorry to say this, but i feel right now that i got scammed from sts. invested all i had on medium lockeds also all that time i slept at this event total 5hours, because farming cakes and crafting them. Didnt opened yet any mediums. Ty for this sts................ u just lost very good plat costumer.

[Ebezaanec]

Finally!

I can rest now. No more stressing out and playing catch-up to maintain my purchasing power. I've had enough cake for a year.

Well, I guess all those players asking for pricier arcanes should be happy, right? Right?

[Ansm]

LOL. Sts doesn't want their players to be rich. That's why, instead of having fun playing this game because you can make easy money in just an event, we're now hating it because they changed what other players want in this event. It's the 3RD ANNIVERSARY, why can't you make your people happy in just a week? JUST A WEEK. And many poor players can be a strong players too like others. And they can go back and make their own money again after this event. Just this one! Selfish. Well, Happy Anniversary, Sts. *note the sarcasm*

[debitmandiri]

LOL. Sts doesn't want their players to be rich. That's why, instead of having fun playing this game because you can make easy money in just an event, we're now hating it because they changed what other players want in this event. It's the 3RD ANNIVERSARY, why can't you make your people happy in just a week? JUST A WEEK. And many poor players can be a strong players too like others. And they can go back and make their own money again after this event. Just this one! Selfish. Well, Happy Anniversary, Sts. *note the sarcasm*

By the time u earn gold by "the right way" prices already jumped into 200-300% higher, imagine if this happen longer. Yes u have 7-10m by the end of the event but its only an illution coz ur gold are worthless


am so sorry to say this, but i feel right now that i got scammed from sts. invested all i had on medium lockeds also all that time i slept at this event total 5hours, because farming cakes and crafting them. Didnt opened yet any mediums. Ty for this sts................ u just lost very good plat costumer.

Obvious answer, its ur own fault. Why not hoard deary egg ? It maybe cost 100m next expansion ?

[Visiting]

LOL. Sts doesn't want their players to be rich. That's why, instead of having fun playing this game because you can make easy money in just an event, we're now hating it because they changed what other players want in this event. It's the 3RD ANNIVERSARY, why can't you make your people happy in just a week? JUST A WEEK. And many poor players can be a strong players too like others. And they can go back and make their own money again after this event. Just this one! Selfish. Well, Happy Anniversary, Sts. *note the sarcasm*

It's all relative. If EVERYONE has more money, EVERYTHING becomes pricier, if the price on all of the items inflates with the gold entering the economy that just means that your new stash full of gold isn't the veritable bank it would have been before the hyperinflation...

[Buckledown]

RIP Medium cake.

[Qmefree]

I Sus .........

[Ansm]

Please, before releasing an event, make sure that you're already satisfied to release it. Not that, in the middle of the game, you'll suddenly change the happiness of your players. They said this is your business, but as far as I remember, you made this game for people to enjoy it and to have more players that'll give you 5 Stars but they made others hate it.

If I hate it, why won't I stop playing it? - Because I've been playing AL 2years from now. I loved the past events that's why I got addicted to it. And AL is my life (my life of fun), I don't know what happened now. I'll say 89% got disappointed. 89% is no joke. Or maybe they increase.

[Ebezaanec]

am so sorry to say this, but i feel right now that i got scammed from sts. invested all i had on medium lockeds also all that time i slept at this event total 5hours, because farming cakes and crafting them. Didnt opened yet any mediums. Ty for this sts................ u just lost very good plat costumer.

Don't you say that with everything that doesn't make you "richer?"

[JesterBoss1]

Man just great naw just great -_-" annoyed and mad.

[Ebezaanec]

Please, before releasing an event, make sure that you're already satisfied to release it. Not that, in the middle of the game, you'll suddenly change the happiness of your players. They said this is your business, but as far as I remember, you made this game for people to enjoy it and to have more players that'll give you 5 Stars but they made others hate it.

If I hate it, why won't I stop playing it? - Because I've been playing AL 2years from now. I loved the past events that's why I got addicted to it. And AL is my life (my life of fun), I don't know what happened now. I'll say 89% got disappointed. 89% is no joke. Or maybe they increase.

Why are people so melodramatic? People see everything so short-term. "If it doesn't give me instant gratification, I hate it!"

People shouldn't toss around the word "hate' so nonchalantly. They don't hate, they're just upset that STG took away the illusion of them becoming virtually richer.

[Ansm]

By the time u earn gold by "the right way" prices already jumped into 200-300% higher, imagine if this happen longer. Yes u have 7-10m by the end of the event but its only an illution coz ur gold are worthless


If it got higher, and they really want it, then they must be patient to wait to release it again. Or, must work hard to get what they want. And as I said, JUST A WEEK. After all, this is their Anniversary. This should be fun, not.. Err.


PS: No hate, just peace and love.

[firmanfar]

Thanks for medium cakes :)

[Ansm]

Why are people so melodramatic? People see everything so short-term. "If it doesn't give me instant gratification, I hate it!"

People shouldn't toss around the word "hate' so nonchalantly. They don't hate, they're just upset that STG took away the illusion of them becoming virtually richer.

Not all of them are upset. Some of them hated it. And cause them to give a 1star or stopped playing it. And I don't care if they do/did that. It's their opinions and I just repeated it. It's not as if they didn't get the instant gratification, they'll hate it or they'll get upset. That's not the only reason, Man. Don't stick it in one way.

[Nishantoo]

So that event end for me lol

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[Devaux]

This is their forums and their business. Freedom of speech doesn't apply here. You accepted the terms when creating a forums account. :)

Zeus you bought tons of my mediums thanks bro lol made bank off you guys took some ss of veteran players that bought my mediums lol Sun was another big buyer of mine XD bet I made more than you guys that bought then opened em hehe

[Spell]

Zeus you bought tons of my mediums thanks bro lol made bank off you guys took some ss of veteran players that bought my mediums lol Sun was another big buyer of mine XD bet I made more than you guys that bought then opened em hehe

Grats hope u enjoy your gold which has dropped in value xD
Dunno what the ss proves at all other than u gloating that somone "famous" bought yur crates and ALSO made bank from u.

[Akuva]

Nab update :02.47-tranquillity:

[Ansm]

It's all relative. If EVERYONE has more money, EVERYTHING becomes pricier, if the price on all of the items inflates with the gold entering the economy that just means that your new stash full of gold isn't the veritable bank it would have been before the hyperinflation...

As I said, JUST A WEEK because it's their 3rd Anniversary, after all. And if the event ends, then we must go back to our daily lives in AL. To be honest, for all of the players in AL, 5k isn't hard to get. But in this event, they got 5k in easy way. And if this ends, they can make their own 5k again in their own way. Everything will get pricier? That's what people want, right? And if the price got low, they'll say "Ugh, the price is too low." And if EVERYTHING will get pricier, then what about to elon bow? Frost bow? Ghoul? And other mythic or arcane items. They're useful, right? Last time it's more than 10M, what happened now? Many players are rich now, the poor one has just started this game. Even the eggs, Nekro. I know that egg is really hard to get that's why it was 50m+ last time. And they can permanently use it, but what happened now? Yes, they are still expensive, and in a daily 5k in a week, you can't make them buy all. Players are the one who's changing the price, not our gold. We're the one who's holding it so we're the one whom to blame why is the price is too low or too high. If full of gold, why don't you give the new players or let's say poor players give some gold?

Please, take note for the JUST A WEEK OF 3RD ANNIVERSARY, again. JUST A WEEK FOR 5K GOLD IN MED CAKE.

[Devaux]

It's all relative. If EVERYONE has more money, EVERYTHING becomes pricier, if the price on all of the items inflates with the gold entering the economy that just means that your new stash full of gold isn't the veritable bank it would have been before the hyperinflation...

I dont mind waiting for value of items to decres...Plenty patient, you're talking to a al player! We're all used to waiting waiting waiting in some form or another in this game! lol What I do mind (and it's why the game isn't more successful too) is grinding over a year to earn less than what I made in three days. That tiny fact alone should be eye opening.

[Devaux]

As I said, JUST A WEEK because it's their 3rd Anniversary, after all. And if the event ends, then we must go back to our daily lives in AL. To be honest, for all of the players in AL, 5k isn't hard to get. But in this event, they got 5k in easy way. And if this ends, they can make their own 5k again in their own way. Everything will get pricier? That's what people want, right? And if the price got low, they'll say "Ugh, the price is too low." And if EVERYTHING will get pricier, then what about to elon bow? Frost bow? Ghoul? And other mythic or arcane items. They're useful, right? Last time it's more than 10M, what happened now? Many players are rich now, the poor one has just started this game. Even the eggs, Nekro. I know that egg is really hard to get that's why it was 50m+ last time. And they can permanently use it, but what happened now? Yes, they are still expensive, and in a daily 5k in a week, you can't make them buy all. Players are the one who's changing the price, not our gold. We're the one who's holding it so we're the one whom to blame why is the price is too low or too high. If full of gold, why don't you give the new players or let's say poor players give some gold?

Please, take note for the JUST A WEEK OF 3RD ANNIVERSARY, again. JUST A WEEK FOR 5K GOLD IN MED CAKE.

Event ends in a few days, not weeks lol

[BabVna]

While I am also forming this weekend to keep my pace along with other players, I was hoping this has to be stopped. Thanks for update STS before it is totally going out of control. I couldn't imagine for few months we may see insane prices like 40mil and 100mil items like we see one year ago.

No big issue team. Things will be settled in 2 to 3 weeks time frame. Times I recall my friend had to sell a 1 million worth car to 300k peso only in 2 years time. Let's enjoy the game as a game. Let's remain cool and ready for winter event.

[Vin Biersack]

Ty sts , bye gold....:miserable:

[ilhanna]

I spent most of last week farming fangs and fragment, so I was neither spending millions on or making millions from medium cakes, just to give some perspectives on where I stand inre the gold payout hot fix. It's just that last Friday people in my guild were talking about the anniversary event being better than Ursoth and Halloween because for once you're making money instead of burning them on ankhs. There was more activity and a positive vibe as some members reported about making their first million and what not. And then the hot fix.

I understand the reasoning behind STS taking this step halfway into the event. But it doesn't make the negativity that follows here on forum and other off game chats any prettier. And I can only imagine how much more pervasive it is out there in the game, with people who can't or don't use the forums to vent. And I'm not just talking about the people who invest in huge numbers of medium cakes, but starting out players who sell small and medium cakes in batches of twos or threes. I don't think those who say that event died for them with the hot fix were exaggerating. The disappointment and disinterest are palpable, even given then logical explanation that prompted this change. And this event was supposed to be celebratory.

Is there any possibility of salvaging the event, I wonder. For me the event is more about jewels than gold, to be honest. So maybe have mediums drop cracked primary jewels? And remove water and nature jewels from cakes entirely. This way price of medium cakes can be maintained and even low level players have a chance at farming primary jewels. Also you might take a look at Extrapayah's suggestion to make grand cakes more worth crafting. Just something to sweeten things that had gone sour, damage control. Three days to go. Maybe these changes can keep the players farming and crafting and in general less unhappy about the mid-event switch up.

[Ansm]

Event ends in a few days, not weeks lol

Then days! It's like you got a big big problem with that LOL

[Zeus]

I spent most of last week farming fangs and fragment, so I was neither spending millions on or making millions from medium cakes, just to give some perspectives on where I stand inre the gold payout hot fix. It's just that last Friday people in my guild were talking about the anniversary event being better than Ursoth and Halloween because for once you're making money instead of burning them on ankhs. There was more activity and a positive vibe as some members reported about making their first million and what not. And then the hot fix.

I understand the reasoning behind STS taking this step halfway into the event. But it doesn't make the negativity that follows here on forum and other off game chats any prettier. And I can only imagine how much more pervasive it is out there in the game, with people who can't or don't use the forums to vent. And I'm not just talking about the people who invest in huge numbers of medium cakes, but starting out players who sell small and medium cakes in batches of twos or threes. I don't think those who say that event died for them with the hot fix were exaggerating. The disappointment and disinterest are palpable, even given then logical explanation that prompted this change. And this event was supposed to be celebratory.

Is there any possibility of salvaging the event, I wonder. For me the event is more about jewels than gold, to be honest. So maybe have mediums drop cracked primary jewels? And remove water and nature jewels from cakes entirely. This way price of medium cakes can be maintained and even low level players have a chance at farming primary jewels. Also you might take a look at Extrapayah's suggestion to make grand cakes more worth crafting. Just something to sweeten things that had gone sour, damage control. Three days to go. Maybe these changes can keep the players farming and crafting and in general less unhappy about the mid-event switch up.


Speaking of negativity...I've been literally harassed out of my mind by nearly everyone who was doing this and didn't understand why the fix had to happen.

It doesn't bother me all that much, but it does become quite cumbersome to ignore list each and every player that PMs this hate mail. I can only imagine the harassment Zylx would go through if he logged in.

This is despite what developers have posted that they already knew to fix this issue.

[Devaux]

Then days! It's like you got a big big problem with that LOL

No not at all! dont shoot the messenger :-)

[Ansm]

Event ends in a few days, not weeks lol

Btw, it started Thursday. Ends on Friday. Cool down, but still it's the part of the event. And can spend your tokens. So it's a week. LOL😂

[Devaux]

Btw, it started Thursday. Ends on Friday. Cool down, but still it's the part of the event. And can spend your tokens. So it's a week. LOL��

Technicalities kill me :-)

[Anehazaz]

143403
Ok...so your intention was for me to play that way and that's what I did with friends from my guild. STS says 'We saw this exploited by a few players' and did these players breach tos? Ok so these 'few' players make their choice and im just wondering what deterrents you put in place to prevent this. We all have a code we play by but how you have handled this has sent out the wrong message. Much has been said on these forums about how the lb is exploited and yet you only had to observe that board in the week before the recent expansion to see 'exploitation' at its finest! Yet those same players were rewarded. im not here to praise or condone how people play but it seems to me that some 'exploitaions' are ignored for convenience and others well....

[Sheentaro]

Oh.. Thanks STS for ruining our gold source :)

[Untung]

Lol, i made a jokes to my guild mate if sts would change 5k gold to 500, and it really happen lol

[zerofort]

Lmao uk what they say early bird catches the cake err worm

[Seoratrek]

We understand that there is some frustration with today's update. However, we do ask that you keep the discussion civil and constructive at all times. If you haven't seen so already, Remiem made a post explaining this change:


Hi everyone! As you know, today we published an update to decrease the payout of the Medium Birthday Cakes. Our intention for these cakes was for players to share with friends and spread the joy and spirit of giving to celebrate this big milestone in the history of Arcane Legends. Unfortunately, we saw this exploited by a few players. For this reason we made the decision to reduce the payout of the Medium Cakes and to allow the event to continue because we know most players are having fun partaking in the spirit of the celebration just as we hoped.

It's important to know that we came to the decision to change the gold drop amount based on internal data we have, not based any forum posts or private messages. Please remember to keep the forums a clean, constructive, and friendly place. It's a birthday party, after all!

http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?276671-Regarding-Today-s-Change-to-Medium-Cakes

[Ansm]

143404

I get your point, Sts. But as you can see, many players enjoyed the event that you released. We spread the love, and the joy coz it's your AL's Birthday. Many players are opening cakes and stick to other players so that they will have some gifts too. And they had fun. It must be enjoyable.. It's a Birthday Party after all!

But yea, still, thank you for this event. At least they can still get some jewels that we can craft and sell.

[Yummytummy]

Zzz Bad idea rich player so selfish

[crudmudgeon]

While I am also forming this weekend to keep my pace along with other players, I was hoping this has to be stopped. Thanks for update STS before it is totally going out of control. I couldn't imagine for few months we may see insane prices like 40mil and 100mil items like we see one year ago.

No big issue team. Things will be settled in 2 to 3 weeks time frame. Times I recall my friend had to sell a 1 million worth car to 300k peso only in 2 years time. Let's enjoy the game as a game. Let's remain cool and ready for winter event.

Event wasn't going for months... would have been a few more days.
Prices for arcane items have gotten so low it depresses me every time I think about popping locks... I'd rather merch luck elixers... Pathetic really, you can't even celebrate looting an arcane because you're still down 3mil buying the locks to loot it.

[crudmudgeon]

Speaking of negativity...I've been literally harassed out of my mind by nearly everyone who was doing this and didn't understand why the fix had to happen.

It doesn't bother me all that much, but it does become quite cumbersome to ignore list each and every player that PMs this hate mail. I can only imagine the harassment Zylx would go through if he logged in.

This is despite what developers have posted that they already knew to fix this issue.

Sleep easy on your hoard tonight... it's well protected.
I threw $500 at merching vanities and I still can't afford the gear/eyes necessary to compete. "Veterans" that made such an investment 3 yrs ago are sitting pretty at this point... meanwhile the rest of us can't even fathom how to catch up...

Bet if you were an auto41 rogue we could go watch your rage quit video tonight...

[Eduardo Peréz]

chill guys, the merchants did this, sts is trying to moderate the market inflation, sadly are there ppl who abuses of the marketing and their objetive is become rich fast and unfair, thats the reason of this update.

[Bameely]

Remiem's closed thread statemenet:
Default Regarding Today's Change to Medium Cakes
Hi everyone! As you know, today we published an update to decrease the payout of the Medium Birthday Cakes. Our intention for these cakes was for players to share with friends and spread the joy and spirit of giving to celebrate this big milestone in the history of Arcane Legends. Unfortunately, we saw this exploited by a few players. For this reason we made the decision to reduce the payout of the Medium Cakes and to allow the event to continue because we know most players are having fun partaking in the spirit of the celebration just as we hoped.

It's important to know that we came to the decision to change the gold drop amount based on internal data we have, not based any forum posts or private messages. Please remember to keep the forums a clean, constructive, and friendly place. It's a birthday party, after all!
End quote.

Since "a few players" didnt share, STS decides to punish everyone but the people who didnt share.

You could have put a temporay ban on those few players through Saturday. That would have allowed the majority who did share continue.

Instead you have punished the majority and "a few players" are moving right along with maxed gold.

Great decision....

Perhaps these "few" players are the big plats purchasers?...u'll neva know...

[Sfubi]

We understand that there is some frustration with today's update. However, we do ask that you keep the discussion civil and constructive at all times. If you haven't seen so already, Remiem made a post explaining this change:



http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?276671-Regarding-Today-s-Change-to-Medium-Cakes

So punish"a few players" instead of punishing the entire community. There were way more players saving up their mediums for a huge opening at the end than there were players that didnt share.

those few players are sitting on a ton of gold while those saving up for the big openning at the end got screwed.

You say you can monitor what is going on, then why not place a character on hold because they are pocketing several million a day versus the majority pocketing several hundred a day.

More of an effort by STS to put a hold on "a few players" would have been a lot better than the easy way out that you took.

Drop a 0 from the program, must have taken like 3600 seconds of your time. so impressive.

[Marilyn]

.....well this is awkward... >.<

Ok look, this is my constructive feedback.

Yes, this event is one of their best and it still is completely free.. Give credit where it's due.

No, it isn't fair that they changed it mid event especially because we were using the cakes as intended.. To be opened in a pt of 4.

HOWEVER, it's their prerogative! Plain and simple... It's their game and they can do whatever they want and I know people don't wanna hear that but there's really no argument... People can be mad, happy, sad, disappointed, relieved etc. and the end result is still the same- STS decisions are non-negotiable. Rage quit or don't rage quit.. Still the same update. They're in an awkward position too.. They know this is unprofessional yet I'm sure they'd rather have some upset customers now then go out of business or have bigger issues or worse complaints down the line. Don't waste your time petitioning or complaining cuz at the end of the day, STS has to do what's best for them. For example, from a business perspective, if everyone got super rich then no one would buy plat and that's part of their paycheck. Whether they made this update for financial reasons, inflation reasons, or personal reasons it's still all irrelevant because again, STS will make their own decisions. For those who think they can get others to quit and hurt the business.. Let's be real, we're all replaceable. If u don't play, someone else will. And even more so.. Good luck finding a game as fun as STS games -.-

I am not denying that this is super annoying lol cuz I really liked the way the event was going.. But it doesn't really matter what we think... They have chosen and SO IT IS WRITTEN, SO IT SHALL BE DONE. And we the people... Must respect their decisions. End of story.



Additional rant:

What's with everyone hating "rich" players.... Whoa... Envy much?? No? Then why else belittle the players who are able to play comfortably.... Think about it. People who have 1 million pve kills are bound to get rich from common drops alone! People with 30k pve kills might be spending hundreds or thousands of real money on plat. BOTH equally contribute to the game! Why are u so mad?? With the exception of the few rich scammers who if STS knows about, they will ban. We all know STS isn't shy on banning. Imo, this is a form of bullying. In conclusion... Come on guys the game is sooooo much more fun when everyone's friendly and getting along. Keep it simple.

With that said, let's be grateful for what we have and recognize that things could be much worse.... Like the tragedy in Paris :( RIP

[Sfubi]

It is like being invited to a birthday party and halfway through eating your cake a big mean health obsessive mom walks in and yells NO CAKE FOR YOU and smile while you eat these raw vegetables.

[debitmandiri]

If it got higher, and they really want it, then they must be patient to wait to release it again. Or, must work hard to get what they want. And as I said, JUST A WEEK. After all, this is their Anniversary. This should be fun, not.. Err.
PS: No hate, just peace and love.

Yes just a week, average ppl in a week got 7-14m.
"Smart" ppl in a week got 70-500m.
So the only way to get gold is from this event ? Before this event everything already cheap and stable..IF they really want something they should be able to buy it by farming (elite/km3 for locks etc) coz the best item in game wasnt worth more than 5million gold, IF this happen longer the previous "5million" worth item becomes 20 million gold, what would u say ? Wait it until it gets cheaper ? Wait till next expasion ? Wait till it becomes outdated? Farming more hard ?

[Gibson Lee]

Anyone complaining about this patch is completely missing the point. The intended objective of this event is to collect birthday tokens so you can buy special vanities to celebrate 3 years of Arcane Legends. The gold and jewels dropped from cakes are just a bonus.

Why does an event have to be profitable to be "good"? Not everything in game needs to be about you getting rich.

i think you are the one who did not get the complains , they should have think about this flood of gold before releasing event the complains of this is items in cs skyrocket cause of event and now changed . .i guess you are one of players who depend on plat purchase :)obvious

[Marilyn]

. .i guess you are one of players who depend on plat purchase :)obvious

There's nothing wrong with buying plat...

[Zylx]

Speaking of negativity...I've been literally harassed out of my mind by nearly everyone who was doing this and didn't understand why the fix had to happen.

It doesn't bother me all that much, but it does become quite cumbersome to ignore list each and every player that PMs this hate mail. I can only imagine the harassment Zylx would go through if he logged in.

This is despite what developers have posted that they already knew to fix this issue.

I could only imagine lol. For the future, i would suggest other people report these kind of things in a private message to a dev so they wouldn't have dealt with the harassment. I know people in-game who are very impressionable on threats and would actually take this harrassment seriously. I believe that I am to blame for much of the fire currently on the forums, and i accept it.

I sincerely apologize to the devs and mods who've had to go through all this hate and ill-natured comments surrounding this. Even though I'm retired, I'm sad to see so much hate over what should've been a cool, fun, celebratory event

[Earlingstad]

What was done with mediums can be done with large ones. People buy large ones at 10k only and then open on 4 alts to get weak jewels each of which sell for more. Fix large cakes too.

I do not see why sts did not foresee these exploits before releasing the event. Currently we are in a situation where a few people hoarded close to 50 million but most did not. That resulted in all prices shooting up above average. Your gold sinks have been wasted. The gap you were closing has once more been created. It does not matter that the average player made 1m or 10m in the last few days. The smart players with atleast 100m in stash are 10 steps ahead of the average player still because they doubled and tripled their gold by spamming medium cakes straight off the auction all day. The same is being done with large cakes now. Jewels are being hoarded and they will be monopilized and sold at cut-throat prices soon.

What is going to be done about this? Just fixing the exploit is not an answer. What steps will be taken to balance gold among everyone again?

[HemmyHighlander]

.....well this is awkward... >.<

Ok look, this is my constructive feedback.

Yes, this event is one of their best and it still is completely free.. Give credit where it's due.

No, it isn't fair that they changed it mid event especially because we were using the cakes as intended.. To be opened in a pt of 4.

HOWEVER, it's their prerogative! Plain and simple... It's their game and they can do whatever they want and I know people don't wanna hear that but there's really no argument... People can be mad, happy, sad, disappointed, relieved etc. and the end result is still the same- STS decisions are non-negotiable. Rage quit or don't rage quit.. Still the same update. They're in an awkward position too.. They know this is unprofessional yet I'm sure they'd rather have some upset customers now then go out of business or have bigger issues or worse complaints down the line. Don't waste your time petitioning or complaining cuz at the end of the day, STS has to do what's best for them. For example, from a business perspective, if everyone got super rich then no one would buy plat and that's part of their paycheck. Whether they made this update for financial reasons, inflation reasons, or personal reasons it's still all irrelevant because again, STS will make their own decisions. For those who think they can get others to quit and hurt the business.. Let's be real, we're all replaceable. If u don't play, someone else will. And even more so.. Good luck finding a game as fun as STS games -.-

I am not denying that this is super annoying lol cuz I really liked the way the event was going.. But it doesn't really matter what we think... They have chosen and SO IT IS WRITTEN, SO IT SHALL BE DONE. And we the people... Must respect their decisions. End of story.



Additional rant:

What's with everyone hating "rich" players.... Whoa... Envy much?? No? Then why else belittle the players who are able to play comfortably.... Think about it. People who have 1 million pve kills are bound to get rich from common drops alone! People with 30k pve kills might be spending hundreds or thousands of real money on plat. BOTH equally contribute to the game! Why are u so mad?? With the exception of the few rich scammers who if STS knows about, they will ban. We all know STS isn't shy on banning. Imo, this is a form of bullying. In conclusion... Come on guys the game is sooooo much more fun when everyone's friendly and getting along. Keep it simple.

With that said, let's be grateful for what we have and recognize that things could be much worse.... Like the tragedy in Paris :( RIP

I do partly agree with you that this is their game and they know what's best for their business but I'd like to add that this event was meant to be a week long event so in the middle of event this 'fix' doesn't make sense to me. If they wanted everyone to share cakes and not disturbing the 'economy' by hoarding, then they could have made the cakes untradeable/unstashable since the start of this event. Why didn't they do it in the first place?

And some people be complaining that should STS ban people who take advantage of this? But why is taking advantage to gain money is against the terms and conditions? People aren't spamming or scamming, they are simply making profit by legit means. Why ban them?

[Sfubi]

There is nothing wrong with buying plat. I work a professional job and have responsibilities at home. This does not leave very many hours in any week to farm everything. If i didnt buy a little platwhen they have a sale I would still be in noob gear.

And while we are at it there is nothing wrong with season 1 players having the best. It took us 3 years to get where we are, give us at least a little props for our hard work.

Furthermore, I have many friends with many millions of gold. They worked hard for it, they deserve props too. I am envious of their bank roll, no doubt, but I am sick of seeing people complain about rich people. Admit to being jealous, as I just did, and get on with yourself

[Zeus]

What was done with mediums can be done with large ones. People buy large ones at 10k only and then open on 4 alts to get weak jewels each of which sell for more. Fix large cakes too.

Large isn't an issue because it does not introduce new gold into the economy. The medium did. All large does is transfer gold and eventually crash the jewel market


Personally, I am fine with people earning gold this way because it won't cause massive inflation.

[xxunoxx]

if everyone become rich , player no need buy plat and this bad for sts , just simple

[Schnitzel]

Oh.. Thanks Exploiters for ruining our gold source :)

Fixed it for you :D

[Earlingstad]

Large isn't an issue because it does not introduce new gold into the economy. The medium did. All large does is transfer gold and eventually crash the jewel market


Personally, I am fine with people earning gold this way because it won't cause massive inflation.

Lets guess you are not done opening your large cakes yet. Yes large cakes are an issue too. Because 4 alts of each person opening large cakes entire day results in massive jewel hoarding by a few people who can, and then manipulating the jewel market for the rest who cannot. Most players do not play on multiple devices to do this. They are scapegoats of those who can?

[Stonedincali]

Had to stop the influx of too much currency before the entire system crashed. Too little too late unfortunately.

[Marilyn]

I guarantee STS is regretting giving us this event right about now 0.0

[Fyrce]

How about removing nature and water jewels from grand cakes? So higher level cakes have better types of jewels and better level of jewels. It's still random, I believe? So it's not a guarantee.

[Zeus]

Lets guess you are not done opening your large cakes yet. Yes large cakes are an issue too. Because 4 alts of each person opening large cakes entire day results in massive jewel hoarding by a few people who can, and then manipulating the jewel market for the rest who cannot. Most players do not play on multiple devices to do this. They are scapegoats of those who can?

I haven't opened any large cakes since the update, thank you for the assumptions though. I have not for the same reasons in my post...it's a very finite bubble which will burst if too many people do it. I do not want to be burned by them.

[galileogalilei]

welll , im da one who play fair just crafting not buying cake now wat happen??????in this 3 days i play hard like hell just sleep 4 hours for saving my cakes hope at da last day of event can share with friends now wat happen?? me not open one cake yet then sts make this update in da middle of event , da price of all cakes become low , and da items drop from cakes is more useless now , oh my god pls dont like this sts this is very unfair for some player who already hard work by crafting da cakes no eat no sleep , this is very unprofessional decission.
for them already rich maybe will say good update , but as you know there are many poor people than rich people in this game !!!!!!!crying cuz this update is really ridiculous.
500 gold you can effort it easily by killing mobs or farming lock. do you know why so dramatic so many complains of your game , cuz you always make us happy at da beginning but always make us stop being happy at da middle or end with your no negotiable update, you already make a big fault big mistake in this game through this birthday event ,dont celebrate it pls !!!!!!! can you ?????

[Iots]

Thx u sts :/

[galileogalilei]

through this update we can learn one important thing that dont run any events just purchasing plats for plat user , and for poor user just farming lock , teeth, vial , fang , etc.

[Upperbound]

Happy birthday AL! ;)

[xnorwayx]

Thx u sts :/


Everyone with lots of gold = inflation.

I bet he doesn't even know what is inflation.

[Haligali]

Sorry guys but "Exploit" the "Medium Cakes" wasn't farm at all, I mean was everithing a lazy trick.

Can you see the actual market? Now a mythic weapon worth almost 1+M than before, this was worst than the old Platinum Farming.

I really support the idea of 50p gold and I think that everyone that exploit the cake trick should be banned at least for few days, the platinum farmers were banned too, this was a worst trick so they should be banned too.

You never farmed Jarl? That was an exploit too.

[Earlingstad]

Everyone with lots of gold = inflation.

Everyone with lots of gold means more or less equal buying power which basically implies demand = supply and prices remain stable.

What we saw happening now was that some people exploited it all day in the first few days and then cut the rope for the rest so that others do not catch up. Then they bought every expensive item in auction with this new gold, raised the price double and triple and are selling this to the ones who were just farming-crafting and not exploiting.

So they would do this same thing with large cakes now, dont be surprised if these same people call for largecakes fix 2 days later, after they and their ALTs are done sucking up the jewels for themselves. So lets have large cakes fixed NOW. Not 2 days later but now.

[Lordconaan]

Wow, what a disappointment after it clearly says 5k on the event post, thats false advertisement lol
i will say the warrior and mage weapons are very nice, but no comment on a pair of balloons for rogue daggers lol

[Lopezman]

Large isn't an issue because it does not introduce new gold into the economy. The medium did. All large does is transfer gold and eventually crash the jewel market


Personally, I am fine with people earning gold this way because it won't cause massive inflation.

i will explain what he views are, he has a lot of gold, he is on the top of the tier in terms wealth, well with that said, what would he want? inequity ofc, the higher the gini coefficient would mean that his chance of being the best will forever be true, the lower the coefficient would mean he's becoming more mortal. if the coefficient reaches 0 there will no longer be any god would there? you see, if u guys get gold directly, the gini coefficient will keep going lower at insane rate, but if u keep getting jewel, it will only affect the price of jewels and maybe decrease the gini coefficient by a bit in the short run, he will still be richer than all of us and remain as Zeus the god instead of eventually becoming Zeus the dog, what he wants is this separation, the rich will remain rich, and well the poor can have all those jewels for all i care, they can buy 100 jewels but i can buy billions, no problem, but don't let them be able to afford op gears and pets, its ok if one market is sacrificed but i don't want them to have equipments like mine. Well said, Lopezman

[Sash Paerau]

Luckily sold my mediums day before this hehe

[Lopezman]

Luckily sold my mediums day before this hehe

luckily i flew to new zealand before atlantis sunk hehe

[galileogalilei]

all i can say is this birthday event is a big failure event . lalalala

[i am judge]

Thnx for the update many people were having benefits of those cakes :)

[Froxanthar]

What we saw happening now was that some people exploited it all day in the first few days and then cut the rope for the rest so that others do not catch up.

Somehow this is true and happens in AL so many times. I wonder why nobody posting about this issue on the first day of the 3rd birthday. [emoji4]

[Dody Septra Maito]

How maked large drop 5k too,cause this a third bithday,make it become real birthday

[marsu4u]

Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[Sweetkitty]

Somehow this is true and happens in AL so many times. I wonder why nobody posting about this issue on the first day of the 3rd birthday. [emoji4]

Duh...they didn't report first day because they were not done "exploiting" it themselves.
I might be a little amused watching the sts golden boy getting put on blast but let's not forget that sts made this event that allowed this to happen. Maybe they will like us to blame each other but it's their own lack of foresight that led to this drama.
Guess their solution was to cut this off after the rich got richer and after the poor liquidate all their items for medium cakes but just before they open them. Yes...good plan. The poor got poorer and the rich got richer.

[crudmudgeon]

Inflation is not evil... it is a sign of a HEALTHY economy! Farmables prices are in constant decline meaning f2p players can make less and less per hour of gameplay... WHERE IS THE PUBLIC OUTCRY.

The price of plat items is self-regulated... if the price goes up more locks get popped the supply goes up and prices come back down.
Not so with farmables... price starts high and just trickles down. At first rich players buy farmables to be first to get new items... then the market shifts to poor selling to poor and the price support dies. Merching amplifies this effect by spreading the net profit over multiple users... greed of middle man continually beats up producers.

People were consistently paying 5-10m+ for toptier weapons prior to halloween.... now better weapons (60 freaking dmNickg better!!!) Don't even garner a 4m price tag... That's not a good thing. That shows just how hopelessly broke people are. People who use plat for income (due to lack of time for farming) can't make enough from popping locks to warrant buying more... there is no incentive... but the pop more anyway and oversupply the market because its the ONLY income they get.

If the price of mythic/arcane items is 1m then poppers don't have the cashflow to support farmables... inflation is GOOD, HEALTHY, and NECESSARY.

Thank you for reading my Treatise on AL Economics.

Sent from my SCH-S968C using Tapatalk

[Sweetkitty]

Inflation is not evil... it is a sign of a HEALTHY economy!

No....it's important to keep poor people down. How else can some veterans feel superior....WAKE UP! *sarcasm....

[HemmyHighlander]

One more issue is why the STS made the commemorative birthday banner tradeable? While banners in other events weren't tradeable.
(I'm not talking about festive birthday banner but the default blue birthday banner.)

[Iisolah]

Well, I think atleast a "warning" or some kind of information by STS before making changes like this would've made this situation a little less hard to handle. Then all the hoarders and farmers would have a chance to sell/open/get rid of their medium cakes before the "sudden nerf" was applied. I dont know what you think, but that sounds fair IMO.

[Katesachi]

I hope next event will be tested first (like in testing area none real game before turning to real ) to avoid bugs and issues among players ... Before launching into real game arcane legend ... Me too crafted so much medium cake because of expecting great loot for me and the party members ....and I'm so thankful for the veterans buckler I received .... I love arcane legend coz it makes my lonely nights energetic and excited each time I log in to games!!! More power to arcane legend !!! I love you all !!!!

[Katesachi]

Yeah it's the game reality situation ... Why not reported in the first day on the event ... Well everybody knows what happen....the rich got more richer.... And after the poor save medium cake and ready to open wow .... Expect the un expected.... Sadness really exist :)

[Amoonguss]

I must say that this event was enjoyable. I appreciated the imagination, creativity and hard-work that developers must have put into releasing this event. The City of Windmoore looks just beautiful, such clean crisp graphics, it just blew me away. The new design of the back vanities are very original and I like the bits of humour the makers always add like the sign in Brackenridge about Jarl being on vacation.
A great energy and spirit was created among guild members during this event. Parties running WT4 and KM3, spontaneous cake openings in guildhall, lots of sharing, saving and dreams of finally affording the items we wanted. Unfortunately the celebrations had to end due to a few players that exploited the gold drops from the medium cakes. I think it's fair to ask, for the players who do actually enjoy farming, crafting and working together; What are the consequences going to be for those few players that exploited the game, forcing STS to make this decision which has caused such a heated debate.
The actions of these few players set off the chain of events leading up to this moment and they should be held accountable. What was such a joyful celebration has turned into much less.
On a positive note: thank you STS for your many years of providing such a great gaming experience. Happy 3rd Birthday :)

[Gabrielcabral]

We want the gold back! A lot of players lost millions of gold cuz of it!!! Wasnt nice sts!!!

[Xdumbx]

l want shadyand surge please remiem yesterday 150 massive open but no shady and surge l need shady and surge please remiem l love you l love arcanelegend

lmfao. Opening locks=gambling. Your not garented it. In addition, this is off topic o.o

[Candylicks]

Grain of salt reply here:

Since my AL departure I am only monitoring guild activities on LINE. Seems like the extra influx of gold was fun over the weekend for everyone, and the hotfix came at the right time before it got too out of control. I see many people who were able to gear up by farming these so called golden cakes. I haven't seen a single, and I mean SINGLE person complain over this and Enigmatic is pretty up there as far as active players in AL. Mates have been able to gear up and seems like the majority of people took advantage of this. I do know of two people in the guild who were able to farm upwards of 40M+ (yes confirmed, they are buying/bought SNS) on this sweet weekend. The majority sat around an extra 6-10M of gold which IMHO isn't going to tear up the economy. StS in no means made any sort of malicious intent with this and by swooping in Monday to break off this adventure was the right thing to do. From what I can tell, the event has been a huge success and there is truly no reason to fret everyone. Check out Enigmatic's Happy Birthday AL Party (https://youtu.be/V2KhYbWxnTY) for what our guild took this event as and I feel best represents what StS designed it to be. Economy fluctuations are normal in video games, and there is zero reason to compare a handful of days extra gold to the months of plat farming that happened in the past. Enjoy everyone and HAPPY 3rd BIRTHDAY AL.

[Xdumbx]

I have to ask now, Since mediums dont drop 5k, what is the point of crafting cakes now? Just saying this because no one really likes the event now. :p

[Thrindal]

That being said I have nothing else to say than:

Please look at the economy before making horrendous decisions, if anything people posting about the exploit of opening 3 chars to collect cakes should be handed a forums ban for making situations like this public. Nott saying they should be but it is still a better decision than nerfing drop rates.

While this sounds good I think there are a couple issues.

1. How do you know that one person owns all the accounts? IP addresses only eliminate possible exploiters but it does not confirm them. You could have 4 members of the same family playing individual accounts farming and opening together but all the IP addresses will be the same. Or you could have college friends all playing together in their dorm, same problem.

2. Many players panicked when they saw what was happening with the economy and in a vain attempt to keep up tried using multiple accounts, probably less efficiently. I wouldn't blame those folks, things were going to hell all weekend and their survival instincts kicked in.

3. I suppose you could look at changes in gold accrued over the weekend and see who the top 5-10% earners were but where is the cut off? 300m? 100m? 50m? 10m?.

4. I really don't see how anyone can be punished for STS's lack of foresight. The only punishment I can see is if folks were Plat farming in some way so they could speed crafting. If Plat farming was involved that is a known bannable offense.

I played as much as I could over the weekend but I had kid shuttling duties and leaf raking duties that kept me from playing a ton. I did what I could but while my account says I am 1-2 million richer I feel like it is worth 75% less then what I had last Thursday Morning.

I feel your frustration I just don't think there is a good way to punish anyone other than what I suggested about plat farming and I am not even saying that happened, I have no idea. We are just going to have to deal with another messed up economy until things settle. It's too bad because the economy was just finding its level.

Players need to realize that if you have 1m gold and everyone else has 250k then your rich but if you have 10m gold and a ton of players have 250m gold you are poor. It isn't about the number of 0's in your bank account, it is about how that number compares relative to all the other players. This is simple economics, I suppose if you never took an Economics 101 class in college/university you might not get this but the same applies to real life economics as well. Unfortunately, these cakes tipped the scale unfairly to a few and made the rest of our accounts a lot less valuable in the process.

[Thrindal]

I have to ask now, Since mediums dont drop 5k, what is the point of crafting cakes now? Just saying this because no one really likes the event now. :p

Well I'm crafting Large Crates like crazy. The return is more variable and less certain and it requires more work selling jewels you are not interested in but it will be profitable, plus it doesn't hurt the economy because gold is changing hands not being printed out of thin air like Medium Cakes did.

I think Medium Cakes could have worked if the gold drop varied. Say 500, 1k, 2.5k, and 5k. This would have introduced risk which limits exploits. Guaranteed returns can always be exploited.

[Oursizes]

Duh...they didn't report first day because they were not done "exploiting" it themselves.
I might be a little amused watching the sts golden boy getting put on blast but let's not forget that sts made this event that allowed this to happen. Maybe they will like us to blame each other but it's their own lack of foresight that led to this drama.
Guess their solution was to cut this off after the rich got richer and after the poor liquidate all their items for medium cakes but just before they open them. Yes...good plan. The poor got poorer and the rich got richer.

STS intended for people to open intowns gh etc. But as always some greedy people exploited it. To get rich like this you have to be rich in real life,either have 4 devices or fast internet that can keep up with 4 tabs of AL

[Edward Coug]

STS intended for people to open intowns gh etc. But as always some greedy people exploited it. To get rich like this you have to be rich in real life,either have 4 devices or fast internet that can keep up with 4 tabs of AL

Just a heads up for those who were using the chrome/multiple device/alt account method. I got confirmation that it's considered an exploit and not allowed.

[Thrindal]

Just a heads up for those who were using the chrome/multiple device/alt account method. I got confirmation that it's considered an exploit and not allowed.

Quick question, I only play on Tablets and phones. I do log on in Chrome occasionally to check CS etc. but don't actually "play".

Does Chrome support multiple instances of the game in separate tabs? Is that the "exploit" for Chrome? If so I would think STS could somehow check the MAC address of the device and only allow one instance of the game. If the Chrome exploit is something else I just wonder what it is because I find playing on Chrome to be difficult and cumbersome (personal preference I guess).

Additional Thought:

If Multiple devices are considered an exploit and not allowed then PVP kill farmers have been "exploiting" the game for a long time...

[Edward Coug]

Quick question, I only play on Tablets and phones. I do log on in Chrome occasionally to check CS etc. but don't actually "play".

Does Chrome support multiple instances of the game in separate tabs? Is that the "exploit" for Chrome? If so I would think STS could somehow check the MAC address of the device and only allow one instance of the game. If the Chrome exploit is something else I just wonder what it is because I find playing on Chrome to be difficult and cumbersome (personal preference I guess).

Additional Thought:

If Multiple devices are considered an exploit and not allowed then PVP kill farmers have been "exploiting" the game for a long time...

I'm assuming it's extremely difficult to police. I've never heard of anyone getting banned for it, and I'd be surprised if it ever happened. That said, it is considered an exploit and isn't allowed.

[Oursizes]

Quick question, I only play on Tablets and phones. I do log on in Chrome occasionally to check CS etc. but don't actually "play".

Does Chrome support multiple instances of the game in separate tabs? Is that the "exploit" for Chrome? If so I would think STS could somehow check the MAC address of the device and only allow one instance of the game. If the Chrome exploit is something else I just wonder what it is because I find playing on Chrome to be difficult and cumbersome (personal preference I guess).

Additional Thought:

If Multiple devices are considered an exploit and not allowed then PVP kill farmers have been "exploiting" the game for a long time...

yes some game companies check address of device and actually log you out of every account except the account ur logged into if its on the same device. It's hard to monitor diff devices in same area because it could be you and a friend, family member etc. so its wrong to ban accidently someone who does like that, i know some people in game that are family members and use diff gadgets to play the game

[Devaux]

We understand that there is some frustration with today's update. However, we do ask that you keep the discussion civil and constructive at all times. If you haven't seen so already, Remiem made a post explaining this change:



http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?276671-Regarding-Today-s-Change-to-Medium-Cakes

Yes sir :-)

[Devaux]

Just a heads up for those who were using the chrome/multiple device/alt account method. I got confirmation that it's considered an exploit and not allowed.

Thanks for the heads up, glad the way I went about making money from the event was legit farming and using multiple toons to craft or stash but they're all on the same email account. Not separate or spread out so even if I tried to log onto them simultaneously it'd log me out on the other device! Learned that on PL years ago! So now my AL conscious is clear :-) lol

[Ansm]

Yes just a week, average ppl in a week got 7-14m.
"Smart" ppl in a week got 70-500m.
So the only way to get gold is from this event ? Before this event everything already cheap and stable..IF they really want something they should be able to buy it by farming (elite/km3 for locks etc) coz the best item in game wasnt worth more than 5million gold, IF this happen longer the previous "5million" worth item becomes 20 million gold, what would u say ? Wait it until it gets cheaper ? Wait till next expasion ? Wait till it becomes outdated? Farming more hard ?

It's like you've got a big problem, then do what they do. LOL. And ofc as I said, it depends on the players wether they'll sell it for cheap price or high price. And that's the original price last time right? When it's just released. And what did we do? Farm , merch and work hard for it. And it's a good did. At least you know how to get what you want on your own way without asking someone to give you some gold. Many players doesn't need to buy ALL, they're buying what they need. So, it'll still depends on us.

[Oursizes]

There are players who openly admitted on forums that they exploited it, i personally feel they should receive consequences, but they wont. This is because most of them are heavy plat buyers/influential players. Any response to this post, STS? Or will you just delete

[Kingslaughter]

They wont answer u like smbdy take love name and transre sns toon.....lol

[Fiery]

This event was decent. I considered it to be above average until this hotfix. This makes farming cakes much harder, I think everybody gave up on this event right after the hotfix. :shame:

[Edward Coug]

There are players who openly admitted on forums that they exploited it, i personally feel they should receive consequences, but they wont. This is because most of them are heavy plat buyers/influential players. Any response to this post, STS? Or will you just delete

Eh, I think it was tolerated for too long to punish anyone for it. There was a post showing how to do it in a long time ago. I really think stg should be clearer about exploits (with a sticky in the the general section), but they seem to be of the opinion that exploits will be used less if they are kept under the radar.

The players wouldn't have admitted doing it if they knew it wasn't allowed.

[Bameely]

Well... STS successfully made their 3rd Birthday bash EVENTFUL. Now everyone will remember their 3rd Birthday lol

[HemmyHighlander]

When will be the price of arcane pet eggs return to their normal price like it was before the event?Would it take several months?
Or perhaps in the next event which is winter event where more and more people would open locked chests and there will be increase in arcane pets in the consignment shop?

[debitmandiri]

It's like you've got a big problem, then do what they do. LOL. And ofc as I said, it depends on the players wether they'll sell it for cheap price or high price. And that's the original price last time right? When it's just released. And what did we do? Farm , merch and work hard for it. And it's a good did. At least you know how to get what you want on your own way without asking someone to give you some gold. Many players doesn't need to buy ALL, they're buying what they need. So, it'll still depends on us.

TBH
I dont have any problem with that, i have items in my stash that will cost 2x times if this exploit keep continue, if i sell that + gold that i hve now, i will have 100m+ gold, even i do nothing. Who gonna sell arcane/mythic that they got from locked if they already have 500+m in their stash for CHEAP ?. So the original price that u mentioned is like 100m ring, 60m nekro, 25m weapon ?. Player buy what they need, are u really need paragem to play ? If no why many ppl want to bring it back ?. this is mmorpg, ppl want the best item to improve their character, not a real life when u can swap a car to a bike for transportation needs

[Festaa]

The Event Let us down

[Oursizes]

still waiting for a reply from STS on this situation. Will they do something about it? Or let the heavy plat buyers get away with it as usual, because they can practically shut a good portion of STS down if they all stop buying? I think we all know the truth here.

[Akmb]

Awe..... it was fun when it lasted.

[Oursizes]

Thanks for the heads up, glad the way I went about making money from the event was legit farming and using multiple toons to craft or stash but they're all on the same email account. Not separate or spread out so even if I tried to log onto them simultaneously it'd log me out on the other device! Learned that on PL years ago! So now my AL conscious is clear :-) lol

Even still, in order to compete with the heavy influence of the plat buying cheaters, one would have to constantly farm and still wouldnt make enough as a cheater would

[UnnamedGuy]

Is unfair i have bought 1000 medium cakes, spent 13m and now its 500 gold each med.
i lost all -.-

Unfair? Unfair for whom? You? Let me laugh.

[galileogalilei]

Unfair? Unfair for whom? You? Let me laugh.

dont laugh buddy , this is not funny at all that like sts already steal one zero from our golds , do you think this is a joke? well , tell me wat your reason why he cant bought medium cake , tell me who make da medium cake tradeable and tell me again who make da medium cake can drop 5k golds , thats not player fault , are you understand this kid??
i bet you will cant laugh if someday sts remove you golds from 50m being 5m... pls use your brain before you judge other people !!!!!!

[Thrindal]

Even still, in order to compete with the heavy influence of the plat buying cheaters, one would have to constantly farm and still wouldnt make enough as a cheater would

I am a very small plat buyer but you have something wrong. Plat Buyers are not cheating if they are playing the game the way STS released it. Plat Farmers are a different animal and they are Cheating, if that exploit still exists. If STS does not programmatically limit you from doing something then they can't say "I know this is possible but don't do it" while wagging their finger at you. Putting out easily obtained "cakes" with 20k (That small cake was worth 5k) inside was bound to get taken advantage of. Game developers in general can't expect players to play nice, they have to expect them to take advantage of any opportunity to get ahead in the game because that is what they want.

Loot has to be carefully thought through in all games, I think it is safe to say STS did not think through all the permutations of how Medium cakes would affect the game. I have questioned STS's thoroughness in testing for a long time but this isn't a testing issue. It worked as coded (which is always the case btw "glitches" or "bugs" don't mysteriously happen they can always be traced back to coding). This was not a coding problem, it was an implementation problem. Implementation problems occur when all potential permutations of how a system can be used are not taken into account.

I don't put this problem on players or any sub-group of players. This one is on STS plain and simple.

[Zeus]

I am a very small plat buyer but you have something wrong. Plat Buyers are not cheating if they are playing the game the way STS released it. Plat Farmers are a different animal and they are Cheating, if that exploit still exists. If STS does not programmatically limit you from doing something then they can't say "I know this is possible but don't do it" while wagging their finger at you. Putting out easily obtained "cakes" with 20k (That small cake was worth 5k) inside was bound to get taken advantage of. Game developers in general can't expect players to play nice, they have to expect them to take advantage of any opportunity to get ahead in the game because that is what they want.

Loot has to be carefully thought through in all games, I think it is safe to say STS did not think through all the permutations of how Medium cakes would affect the game. I have questioned STS's thoroughness in testing for a long time but this isn't a testing issue. It worked as coded (which is always the case btw "glitches" or "bugs" don't mysteriously happen they can always be traced back to coding). This was not a coding problem, it was an implementation problem. Implementation problems occur when all potential permutations of how a system can be used are not taken into account.

I don't put this problem on players or any sub-group of players. This one is on STS plain and simple.


Exactly, STG cannot be put to blame for this...really, how were they supposed to predict the listing prices of medium cakes in AH?

[Seoratrek]

At this point I think everyone has made their point. Please remember to keep the posts friendly and civil. There is no need to be insulting each other. Thanks for your understanding!