View Full Version : Rogues are too OP?
Adienl
12-11-2015, 09:22 AM
Hi,
I am fairly new to the game, and I have an endgame mage(with arcane ring, and some good pets like slobber, haxonite).
I've experienced while running elites(and arena!) that rogues with okay stats can finish the map really fast!
I also browsed through the forums and there is a lot of resentment against rogues being the best class.
I enjoy playing on my mage, but because of this notable difference between rogues and mage I am considering whether I should invest in arcane pets, mythic weapons for my mage or make a rogue lvl 46 and invest on that?
I'd like to make an informed decision, so please help out this newbie.
Thanks!
ueveotadeo
12-11-2015, 09:27 AM
Yes, rogue is the strongest class in game.
But, this is a game, you are suposed to have fun in it, want to make an informed decision, start leveling a rogue and see if you like playing with it. Thats the best way.
And I say it by experience, I started as a rogue, made a warrior some time later and never touched the rogue again. Even though it is the best overal class. It is not the most fun to play with (for me of course) and that should be the most important factor on ur decision. Which class makes u have the most fun while playing.
No point in making a rogue just because they are the best class if you dont like playing as a rogue.
Just have fun!
Adienl
12-11-2015, 09:33 AM
Yes, rogue is the strongest class in game.
But, this is a game, you are suposed to have fun in it, want to make an informed decision, start leveling a rogue and see if you like playing with it. Thats the best way.
And I say it by experience, I started as a rogue, made a warrior some time later and never touched the rogue again. Even though it is the best overal class. It is not the most fun to play with (for me of course) and that should be the most important factor on ur decision. Which class makes u have the most fun while playing.
No point in making a rogue just because they are the best class if you dont like playing as a rogue.
Just have fun!
Actually, since I am not ale to farm with my mage(the high end stuff), I am thinking of making a rogue for faster farming and hence be able to invest better on my rogue!!
Yes, I do love mage and I am not gonna abandon it!! But since we all need gold, is it worth it make an endgame rogue?
That's a more appropriate question on my part!
hallowring
12-11-2015, 09:41 AM
i play as warr and as the others have said (AL is supposed to be fun)(^u^)although i find it hard ta kill dem rouges in pvp XD
ueveotadeo
12-11-2015, 09:46 AM
Actually, since I am not ale to farm with my mage(the high end stuff), I am thinking of making a rogue for faster farming and hence be able to invest better on my rogue!!
Yes, I do love mage and I am not gonna abandon it!! But since we all need gold, is it worth it make an endgame rogue?
That's a more appropriate question on my part!
If you dont want to wait for PT and solo, yes, rogue is the answer.
But if you are in a guild with some decent activity (I bet we all seeing more offline people by the day) class shouldn't matter that much to find PTs.
I can say 95% of the time I ask for farming partners I get an answer.
Again, that is my case, I'm against changing between class just because they are OP, it is a game and you are suposed to have fun, but it is true that rogue enables you to go solo easier if you are having a hard time finding a PT.
Energizeric
12-11-2015, 09:52 AM
Rogues also die the easiest, so if you don't mind dying a lot, and like getting a ton of kills really fast, then rogue is the class for you. Warriors are the total opposite, being able to take the most damage, yet they won't get as many kills, and mages are in the middle.
typemyname
12-11-2015, 09:54 AM
depends actually on the map for me. Mages and Rogues have maps that are relatively easier for them.
When it comes to single target or just the boss, I prefer rogues but for dodging enemies and killing mobs, I'd go for mages.
Arena or boss encounters, I'd say go for rogue, 46 legendary equips+AR+good bow+mari+good pt is already a fair rogue that can easily finish arena for less than 4 minutes.
Elite rengol is relatively easier for mages in my opinion because they can easily skip mobs comparing to a non-nekro rogue.
I honestly had a hard time with elite rengol and I needed help from my mage friends to get me through the skipping of mobs.
Adienl
12-11-2015, 09:55 AM
If you dont want to wait for PT and solo, yes, rogue is the answer.
But if you are in a guild with some decent activity (I bet we all seeing more offline people by the day) class shouldn't matter that much to find PTs.
I can say 95% of the time I ask for farming partners I get an answer.
Again, that is my case, I'm against changing between class just because they are OP, it is a game and you are suposed to have fun, but it is true that rogue enables you to go solo easier if you are having a hard time finding a PT.
I am not changing my main. My main will always be my blue butt!
But if it does make farming efficient then I think I should make another endgame rogue as an alt. THanks a lot!!
Adienl
12-11-2015, 09:57 AM
depends actually on the map for me. Mages and Rogues have maps that are relatively easier for them.
When it comes to single target or just the boss, I prefer rogues but for dodging enemies and killing mobs, I'd go for mages.
Arena or boss encounters, I'd say go for rogue, 46 legendary equips+AR+good bow+mari+good pt is already a fair rogue that can easily finish arena for less than 4 minutes.
Elite rengol is relatively easier for mages in my opinion because they can easily skip mobs comparing to a non-nekro rogue.
I honestly had a hard time with elite rengol and I needed help from my mage friends to get me through the skipping of mobs.
Arena is the worst place to witness the OPness of rogue. I feel jealous as a mage. LOL
typemyname
12-11-2015, 09:59 AM
Arena is the worst place to witness the OPness of rogue. I feel jealous as a mage. LOL
What more for warriors lol. Do they even have the word envy? hahaha. ooops
Kharjojo
12-11-2015, 10:04 AM
Yes, rogue is the strongest class in game.
But, this is a game, you are suposed to have fun in it, want to make an informed decision, start leveling a rogue and see if you like playing with it. Thats the best way.
And I say it by experience, I started as a rogue, made a warrior some time later and never touched the rogue again. Even though it is the best overal class. It is not the most fun to play with (for me of course) and that should be the most important factor on ur decision. Which class makes u have the most fun while playing.
No point in making a rogue just because they are the best class if you dont like playing as a rogue.
Just have fun!
I've capped 3 chars so far, 1 for each class.. and i can't find better words to say it so +1000 to this!
I enjoy a lot to play with my tank (even nowadays) and with my rogue as well, but i'm smurf inside :3
Best performance are welcomed ofc, but you have to find your own play style with the chars you enjoy the most.
Adienl
12-11-2015, 10:09 AM
I've capped 3 chars so far, 1 for each class.. and i can't find better words to say it so +1000 to this!
I enjoy a lot to play with my tank (even nowadays) and with my rogue as well, but i'm smurf inside :3
Best performance are welcomed ofc, but you have to find your own play style with the chars you enjoy the most.
I am going to cap a rogue, and maybe a warrior in the future.
it reminds me
http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?277894-Rogue-is-the-great-class-for-damage&highlight=rogue+class+damage
Getting the arcane ring now. Perhaps with a Maridos her to be good for arena. I can say is that the big spending on health and mana potions. Addressing crowds alone is also annoying. If you do not have a few million to spend it, give up. A rogue using only legendary will only make you die, and also spend money on potion.
Mage have more damage than a rogue, this is fact. Without the arcane ring came to 800 damage, with a mage. However rogue is more critical and about 50% Dodge. You do not have to worry about running out shield.Then it depends a mage is best for to farm in areas where they do not receive much damage.
typemyname
12-11-2015, 10:16 AM
one downside of rogue though. you need to spam skills together with pots lol
Adienl
12-11-2015, 10:25 AM
Pots are hardly an expense once you have a decent amount of capital.
Vixenne
12-11-2015, 10:35 AM
one downside of rogue though. you need to spam skills together with pots lol
This is a sad reality for a rogue lol.
Jazzi
12-11-2015, 10:43 AM
one downside of rogue though. you need to spam skills together with pots lol
Yes the pot problem is really big. Starting up a new rogue without putting a couple of hundred USD or having 4-5 million gold is quite hard. With legendary gear and no arcane pet you would die quite a bit and use a ton of pots.
With op gear u dont die that much but u still use a huge number o mana pots
Sorcerie
12-11-2015, 10:47 AM
I have both and endgame mage (main) and rogue (alt), and I can say that imo you need both.
Primarily because the versatility allows you to conform to whatever your needs (or those of your guildies) may be.
Sometimes you need to clean up trash quickly and for that you need a mage, and then sometimes you need to be a Boss slayer and for that you need a rogue.
But take note that no matter how much gold you have it takes a ton to maintain a rogue since you can burn through pots and ankhs fairly quickly and not always get the drops you need to support that rogue life, lol.
And in general, Mage is probably the most cost effective class to play.
Aziiii
12-11-2015, 03:15 PM
Classes are different, it's true rogues have some advantages in some maps.. Such as arena BUT mages have their big advantages too. I always like to take a mage in my team when i run maps such as km3 toombs. Dont give up on your mage, make it as strong as it can be, look at the stongest mages in game.. They didnt give up, if you invest in it you wont be dissapointed. Try and make a twink rogue and play a bit see if you like it , because its a difderence :) have fun !
Diggdugg
12-11-2015, 04:53 PM
As most people here have said, pict the character you like best and roll with it, to me mages are the way to go more fun to play and the skills are sweet, make sure you join a good guild as the guild makes true farming possible no matter what the class.
Enjoy the game and have fun no matter the class
icyfrostbyte
12-11-2015, 04:57 PM
I find that rogues aren't the strongest really. They just have a attacks that attack 1 person so they do more damage. Magee are more of an area attack so they also do damage especially in pve. Warriors have great health and can have a great damage. In pvp (especially the low lvls) warriors are op. My mage is pretty good lvl 24, 245 dps with pet and some warriors have more dps and 3 times my health almost. It really just depends on how u attack and use potions and have good equipment.
I am not changing my main. My main will always be my blue butt!
But if it does make farming efficient then I think I should make another endgame rogue as an alt. THanks a lot!!
Your butt is actually pink - don't ask me how I know. I swear I do not check out smurf booty!