Persistence set please!

[tgulledge4]

From 60 to 61 we should get persistence armor then from 65 to 66 weapon. Then set bonus. Please do this it would mke it worth all the grinding we will have to do.

[Siejo]

Very interesting seeing as how the Crown doesn't count as a set bonus :(

[tgulledge4]

I want them to make it a set. Give us the armor after 130k we put in to get 61. Then when they make another level cap and we put in 200k or whatever the huge # will be give us the weapon. Then set bonus. Best part will be only the people that put in the work will have this set.

[Moogerfooger]

We have been asking for it since March. Sadly, does not look like it's going to happen :( although I hope I'm wrong for 61 :D

[lUp3]

It would be awesome if can be done.

[JaytB]

Well, originally it was said by the devs that they would add a set bonus for the lv56 crown. That never happened though :(

It was said here btw (post #9): http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?20554-1.7-Content-Update-%2855396%29

1 user said this: 'Item set should include Crown of Persistence as part of the set.'

On which asommers responded:


Good idea! We'll add one.

-ALS

[ReddWolfAK]

The stats for the Crown would have to be updated. And I hope for 61 they make 55-56 4 digit xp. And don't give out the crown of persistence anymore.

[Ayc2000]

The stats for the Crown would have to be updated. And I hope for 61 they make 55-56 4 digit xp. And don't give out the crown of persistence anymore.
yea, this has been mentioned, the xp you need for 55-56 will be 8.4k and the crown of persitance will be discontinued

[Kraze]

Eh this or have the crown overide set requirements and work with any set

[Sigkill]

Sadly the crown will have the stats of a lvl 56 Helm, The armor of a 61, and the weapon of a 66 so not that practical.

[Kraze]

Sadly the crown will have the stats of a lvl 56 Helm, The armor of a 61, and the weapon of a 66 so not that practical.

This problem could be solved with a large enough set bonus to close the gaps

[Fncrazy]

Ditto. Big set bonus

[Josephjackson]

I love the ideal of a percistance set. But I think helm, armor and weapon aquired at different stages of the game is a horrible idea. There is already an issue of the founders helm in twinking.

One should ever be given an unfair advantage that others are unable to compensate for. To me, its like a 55 picking on a 50 in pvp..

Make helm of p a vanity for for under 56 which is equal to the founders helm.

[Josephjackson]

I mean for it to have 56 stats or a vanity for under 56...

[Nightarcher]

I for one think this is a bad idea. You know why? It turns the idea of the "Elite level" into some way to get an advantage over others in combat. The system is perfectly fine as it is: you get 5 stat points, a skill point, and a helm you can wear regardless of your attributes. That's already a huge advantage, and I think it should be all you get.

Leveling up ten times the xp is a great achievement, and the greatest advantage of reaching 56 at the moment is the ease of Duel Speccing. However, regular level 55 gear remains superior, and I think it should stay that way. Level 60 gear should be better than any level 61 elite reward. :)

[Gluttony]

But I think helm, armor and weapon aquired at different stages of the game is a horrible idea. One should ever be given an unfair advantage that others are unable to compensate for. To me, its like a 55 picking on a 50 in pvp..
Make helm of p a vanity for for under 56 which is equal to the founders helm.

Items given at different times during a game over the course of months is indeed a bad idea in theory, but I would like to see the CoP used at some point in the game. I know that as soon as I got mine it went straight into stash and has never seen the light of day since. Bridging the gap between a 56 helm and a 66 weapon will be huge, but what if the set just adds something different like Big Luck does. How about the set counts as a perm Playa's potion. Sure, it'll be useless as soon as you get it but next cap it could come in handy. Perhaps a vanity suit... something, I don't need HUGE stat increases just a reason to dust it off from time to time.

As for an advantage that others are unable to compensate for, that basically means there should NEVER be discontinued items or anything of the sort. I mean isn't a discontinued Winter Festival Snowball Launcher the best DEX item for a level 10... why no outrage there? I personally enjoy the little items that are given away even if they do cause an uproar. I don't pvp, but it would seem that players would like special consideration when releasing any new content; sounds like pvp needs a revamp that doesn't allow any item that is deemed "unfair" by the masses to be worn as one enters the pvp arena. Sort of like when you cannot enter a dungeon when your inventory is full. Isn't pvp a sort of honor system anyway? If players want fair, they work the details of a match out with the other party before they begin battle; those that could care less about honor use any trick they can to fight "dirty" and win at any cost. I read threads about how kiting is unfair, how the Founders' Helm is unfair, and there are players on both sides of the fence on every issue. The only solution I see is to make pvp only class vs class, all toons fight naked, and no skills allowed... Sounds extreme doesn't it? I just want the pvpers out there to stop ruining my chances at exclusive content because they see an exploit on the horizon for just one aspect of the game!

All that being said, I'd love to see a set that utilizes the CoP, even if it's not until another 5+ months from now when the cap is raised over 60/61 bar no matter the flames that will ensue!

[Pharcyde]

Yeah, but the only problem is you would hear begging and ranting threads day and night. Players who either didn't make the grind, or didn't join the game until after the first Elite would complain about how "unfair" it is. I mean, there is already a huge debate over the small bonus for the founders helmet. Now imagine an Elite Set?

I love the idea, but I don't think Spacetime wants to deal with all that rant and flame.

[lUp3]

or it could be a vanity costume set.. like dose droids .. would llook cool..

[Nightarcher]

My objection isn't about it being discontinued in the future or whatever (it'll always be useful for duel speccing as I mentioned) but in terms of combat here and now, the normal level cap should have the best gear. So far so good. The CoP is nice to have, but (for instance, the dex crown) can't beat RR or Custom because of the set bonus.

Originally the CoP was vanity I think, and I'm not ranting about the stats which I actually like. I just think anything more is taking away the spirit of Elite leveling, changing from a nice accomplishment to just a way to get better gear. :)

[Josephjackson]

I dont see any problems with an item such as a snowball launcher because it can be potentally aquired by all.

Im all for "exclusive content" but I think everyone should have the potental to aquire the best gear in the game. And the helm is apparently an exclusive item... So you are getting it :)

And the founders helm is a small advantage at high lvl pvp.. But huge at low level pvp. Recently, it would have been a 33% increase in armor and a major increase in damnage for a lvl 10 bear.

[Kraze]

I dont see any problems with an item such as a snowball launcher because it can be potentally aquired by all.

Im all for "exclusive content" but I think everyone should have the potental to aquire the best gear in the game. And the helm is apparently an exclusive item... So you are getting it :)

And the founders helm is a small advantage at high lvl pvp.. But huge at low level pvp. Recently, it would have been a 33% increase in armor and a major increase in damnage for a lvl 10 bear.
I'm so tired of the founder helm is unfair thread hijacks. It does not make one invincible in pvp. It's not game breaking and more importantly its not on topic. There are plenty of other threads about the founder helm already. IMO complaining about the founder helm is like being angry about the automute or beta testing for SL. They are closes cases and time to build a bridge and get over it

[ZeraJade]

Don't try to over complicate things here or anything :)

What if the persistence set bonus is not as good as 55,60,65 (whatever one under cap lvl at that moment)?

Persistence set over time resulting in a vanity set perhaps? By no means should one expect to acquire a set with bonus just for existing and grinding long enough, that beats out any other set available to all other players.

Make sense? The mole hill is just fine.

[Josephjackson]

Its all about your (or my) point of view here apparently.. I beleive in precision and allowing player talent to be the determining factor in things like pvp.

Ive played other games with (in my opinion) a much better set up for "competative playing". And by that I just mean you become a better player... Whether u try for that or not - it happens..

It can just as easily be said that u should just get over your frustration for people wanting fair game play kaze...

Heres my view... I want playing as fair as possible and things that give an advatage should have the potential to be aquired by all.

So send more hate. Glutony, in general I like your constructive critisism and anyone elses.. I just like for it to be as freindly as possible :)

[Dexmann]

what if you grind all the way though all the elite lvls but you miss one by just a couple K xp, the update comes, and u can no longer get the elite item. Right there you just wasted all your time becauze you would never be able to aquire the full set. if there was going to be a set of persistance, it should be made into quests (very frikin hard quests) so either ay your grinding would be beneficial

[Kraze]

Its all about your (or my) point of view here apparently.. I beleive in precision and allowing player talent to be the determining factor in things like pvp.

Ive played other games with (in my opinion) a much better set up for "competative playing". And by that I just mean you become a better player... Whether u try for that or not - it happens..

It can just as easily be said that u should just get over your frustration for people wanting fair game play kaze...

Heres my view... I want playing as fair as possible and things that give an advatage should have the potential to be aquired by all.

So send more hate. Glutony, in general I like your constructive critisism and anyone elses.. I just like for it to be as freindly as possible :)
Keep the founder helm stuff in an appropriate thread. It is what it is there is plenty of threads about it already no need to drag it in to other places

[Josephjackson]

My comments were in place. You have no authority to tell anyone to do anything. Very classy kaze....

[Kraze]

My comments were in place. You have no authority to tell anyone to do anything. Very classy kaze....
I'm sorry I thought that a thread about the persistence crown was a rather odd place to bring up the founders helm. If you want to discuss the founders helm try searching it lots of threads about it or make a new one. Don't see the need to drag it here. But hey I guess I'm just that classy

[Josephjackson]

Look, I posted here in reference to another topic. These forums are being ruined by people doing what you are doing now.

[Kraze]

Look, I posted here in reference to another topic. These forums are being ruined by people doing what you are doing now.
I'm sorry I'll remove my founder helm before I post from now on

[Josephjackson]

Keep it, youll need it :-)

[Gluttony]

I have to agree that the Founders' Helm is completely seperate from the CoP based on the fact that only iOS users could have created an account in the first few months so they were the only players able to get the reward. Now the CoP on the other hand is available to anyone who has been playing the game from Feb (2011-02-08 is what I have) until now. That's 5 months to gain 83k xp not to mention there were 3x elixirs for gold at the start of the BS campaign and 4x for plat now so it's pretty safe to say that anyone who wants one has a shot at getting one.

As I understand it your problem is that people who have played longer will have access to items that someone who joins say 6 months from now, and that is where I have a problem. Discontinued content happens, STS rewards players and if we want that to continue rants like yours need to stop.

[Fncrazy]

Keep it simple guys. After we grind for the set and get it. They could simple mke it available to all by quest or a new drop. I simple suggested the set because we r gonna have to grind something like 300k. Heck, I would be cool if they made it a 56 set.

[superglut2]

would be a cool thing

[Josephjackson]

I do love the idea :)

[SoShaan]

the helmet is ugly and cost plat to have it...

Theres 2 good reasons it doesn't need to exist.

[Kraze]

the helmet is ugly and cost plat to have it...

Theres 2 good reasons it doesn't need to exist.
Because the mystery set didn't have any plat items...