Income And Stash

[Mennddoza]

INCOME AND STASH (BANK)

Hello! I've been thinking for a couple days on this suggestion. The thought is being able to purchase something that would give the player an income. This “income” can come from purchasing a small market somewhere in the world of Alterra. We can not see these purchased stores but they are being used by regular citizens from Alterra.


FEATURES OF INCOME AND STASH


- Completing Quests to access more variety to purchasing INCOME.
- INCOME flow comes once every Day
- MAX. CAP. Of income is decided by how much INCOME you purchase
- Accessing a bank where your “income” is stashed
- INCOME FLOW restarts every time your stash is maxed out and you receive the income


BENEFITS

Now this would benefit players because…

- More players will have more money to purchase there what they want
o I personally have seen many players complain about how to earn money an easy way. This I believe would grant them an “EASIER WAY” (not a way so they never have to go farming ever again. An easier way)

- Adds another feature to P.L. for it to be more appealing
o Now I am not saying P.L. is not a great game, but it needs more ideas and features for it to keep on going strong so I do strongly believe this would help P.L. seem more enjoyable.




There could be more ideas added to this but I just other players feedback on this idea 

[noobmigo]

I've suggested this many times before.

Instead of buying income though, (too easy gold, no) you get the income via doing jobs.

[Register]

jobs is good. income good. But noobs are nooby!

[Yvonnel]

Why would we want to influx more gold into the game? CS prices are already crazy. We need something to get rid of the gold.

[Conradin]

We need a gold sinkhole. Theres too much gOld and inflation is happening. We dont want PL to end up like RS. I think guilds should be a sinkhole (like 1-2 mil for the best guildhouse and ability to spend millions more on pimpig your guilds)

[Dexmann]

i strongly agree having alternate income. the inflation people are talking about is only happening to those super rich people. the average PL-er probably has like 5k or like me, 1.5k lol

[noobmigo]

We need a gold sinkhole. Theres too much gOld and inflation is happening. We dont want PL to end up like RS. I think guilds should be a sinkhole (like 1-2 mil for the best guildhouse and ability to spend millions more on pimpig your guilds)

Houses. BLAM!
Cos' why spend on guildhouses when AeO is already winning the show?

[Yvonnel]

i strongly agree having alternate income. the inflation people are talking about is only happening to those super rich people. the average PL-er probably has like 5k or like me, 1.5k lol

1.5k? You can make that in a very short period of time farming gold in just about any dungeon.

[Conradin]

i strongly agree having alternate income. the inflation people are talking about is only happening to those super rich people. the average PL-er probably has like 5k or like me, 1.5k lol

Inflation is how the armor at 55 costs 1-3 mil for a set. If the average PL player has "5k" then inflation is terrible. Inflation doesnt hurt the rich as much as the poor. If we lower inflation more people can afford more things.

[Orcish]

One of the best gold sinks I've seen in many mmo's, is an option to make a bet or gamble a small fortune in some kind of mini game. Heck even a lottery would work.

[noobmigo]

One of the best gold sinks I've seen in many mmo's, is an option to make a bet or gamble a small fortune in some kind of mini game. Heck even a lottery would work.

The devs won't allow that because it's a "Kiddy" game and some kids supposedly get influenced by this stuff from games.
Pokemon has em.
Gotta Influence Em all?

[Orcish]

The devs won't allow that because it's a "Kiddy" game and some kids supposedly get influenced by this stuff from games.Pokemon has em. Gotta Influence Em all?Can you link anything that reads that the developers would never create a gamble/bet mini game? I don't see why they wouldn't and I have yet to read anything that says otherwise. Like I said earlier, I have seen this in many games (which include children) example? diablo (horadric's cube anyone?) or Neopets (totally a kids game)... wouldn't have to be gold, there are many ways this can be done.

[Orcish]

Ain't it gambling when you buy a pack of pokemon cards? Or when you use plat to buy the random item packs? It's already here in PL, I'm only saying expand on it. My apologies for the double post, this was some of my after thoughts that I meant to include earlier :)

[noobmigo]

Can you link anything that reads that the developers would never create a gamble/bet mini game? I don't see why they wouldn't and I have yet to read anything that says otherwise. Like I said earlier, I have seen this in many games (which include children) example? diablo (horadric's cube anyone?) or Neopets (totally a kids game)... wouldn't have to be gold, there are many ways this can be done.

Actually, I can find something.

I suggested a Lotto for this, bunch of people said no, devs. Mainly Physiologic.
Also, that's why they removed the /roll random number option because they used it for "gambling"

EDIT: here one of em is: Post three. http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?28928-Place-your-bets-NOW!!!&highlight=gambling

I was pro for a lotto or something of the sort, but I think it's a no.

[TANKKAAR]

Inflation is how the armor at 55 costs 1-3 mil for a set. If the average PL player has "5k" then inflation is terrible. Inflation doesnt hurt the rich as much as the poor. If we lower inflation more people can afford more things.

Guys sorry but your wrong... the inflation of higher lvl items isn't because the rich are controlling prices or oppressing the poor...lol... Inflation happens for many reasons the most common of which is called "SUPPLY AND DEMAND" economics 101! Think about it..... ever notice that lower lvl items cost A LOT less? Why is that? That's because every lvl 50-55 player in PL has had to play through those lvls and had more time to farm those lvls which results in more lower lvl items :) right? Now as you get to the higher lvl items they start to get more expensive, due mainly to the fact there has been less farming hence less drops.... The result is higher prices because these items aren't flooding the market (look at shadow sets for the pefect example) when more of these sets are put into circulation the price drops just like what is happening to MM, RR, and FF sets right now along with the scare that overall market value will decrease once new higher lvl sets come out! And then the cycle repeats, just like rift, void, and cosmos will never be worth what they started at niether will fury, mega, and raid! So you see though its a great idea and sounds fun, adding sink holes for people to blow money on it won't have the desired effect that you want it too :banana: When it boils down to it haters are going to hate and players are going to play..lol... its not our fault we happen to be good players who know how to work the system and make a lil extra money to better enhance our game play :) and if your not bieng hated on, well your just not doing it right!

[noobmigo]

Guys sorry but your wrong... the inflation of higher lvl items isn't because the rich are controlling prices or oppressing the poor...lol... Inflation happens for many reasons the most common of which is called "SUPPLY AND DEMAND" economics 101! Think about it..... ever notice that lower lvl items cost A LOT less? Why is that? That's because every lvl 50-55 player in PL has had to play through those lvls and had more time to farm those lvls which results in more lower lvl items :) right? Now as you get to the higher lvl items they start to get more expensive, due mainly to the fact there has been less farming hence less drops.... The result is higher prices because these items aren't flooding the market (look at shadow sets for the pefect example) when more of these sets are put into circulation the price drops just like what is happening to MM, RR, and FF sets right now along with the scare that overall market value will decrease once new higher lvl sets come out! And then the cycle repeats, just like rift, void, and cosmos will never be worth what they started at niether will fury, mega, and raid! So you see though its a great idea and sounds fun, adding sink holes for people to blow money on it won't have the desired effect that you want it too :banana: When it boils down to it haters are going to hate and players are going to play..lol... its not our fault we happen to be good players who know how to work the system and make a lil extra money to better enhance our game play :) and if your not bieng hated on, well your just not doing it right!


I'm taking economics in college! He pretty much nailed it.

Except it's not that more people are SUPPLYING the low level items, it's more like the DEMAND of those items are lower. For example, there are many people SUPPLYING the L. 15 Expert Leathers, but there is so much more demand for them, that they increase in price ALOT.

Actually it is inflation, too. Expert Leathers used to be 300-400k for a bit during the peace time, no announcements from devs, nothing. Then, BOOM, in a week they went up to 700,000, because people basically stopped farming them for a while to hit Vyx and others. That established a little price range for the others who had the Leathers, and sold them for a major profit. The people who bought them, tried to sell for a higher price, or a little lower. So they are still about 700,000.

OK, enough with the class. Dismissed. :D

[Orcish]

Actually, I can find something.I suggested a Lotto for this, bunch of people said no, devs. Mainly Physiologic.Also, that's why they removed the /roll random number option because they used it for "gambling"EDIT: here one of em is: Post three. http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?28928-Place-your-bets-NOW!!!&highlight=gamblingI was pro for a lotto or something of the sort, but I think it's a no. I really appreciate you linking the post, but it doesn't exactly clarify what is and isn't allowed. Any devs willing to shed some light on this subject? BTW I like the idea having something like stocks to help assist player's income, although I'm not so sure how that would work in PL.

[noobmigo]

I really appreciate you linking the post, but it doesn't exactly clarify what is and isn't allowed. Any devs willing to shed some light on this subject? BTW I like the idea having something like stocks to help assist player's income, although I'm not so sure how that would work in PL.

Stocks. Lol, nty! That's wayy to far.

[Orcish]

Stocks. Lol, nty! That's wayy to far.That's what Mennddoza is pretty much suggesting here. I've seen it done before, but I don't know how this would be put into PL fashion, its not exactly an easy fit. *shrugs* I don't believe anything will come from this but who knows, stranger things have happened before.

[Zeus]

Stocks would be pretty awesome. I love predicting the market and if I say so myself, quite good at it. So, I'm all for it. Also, Tank pretty much nailed the Economics lecture, so I don't think I need to elaborate on that.

[Nightarcher]

Look back to AO2, and the best items when they came out were a heck of a lot cheaper than high-end pinks now.

I think a main part of this game's inflation has to do with the fact that as time goes on, people have played through more campaigns and can amass more gold. So when new campaigns appear, everyone is used to having more gold, and so everyone charges more for high-end gear.

[Mennddoza]

Noobs are nooby?? whats the message in this haha

[Kraze]

We need a gold sinkhole. Theres too much gOld and inflation is happening. We dont want PL to end up like RS. I think guilds should be a sinkhole (like 1-2 mil for the best guildhouse and ability to spend millions more on pimpig your guilds)
::slow 80s movie clap:: best idea ever

[ZeraJade]

The inflation concept is accurate.

If everyones gold is increased x10, then why wouldn't you sell something for x10 as much? You know they have x10 more to spend.

As for gambling: this is an American based company, with an American based game. It must not only comply with the country's gambling laws but also each state (and I don't care enough to research anything on this subject). To the best of my knowledge, the usual minimum age to even enter a contest to win a bicycle is 13. How much effort do you want STS to put in to age verification and law examination? That's not even including Verizon's rules or Apple's or every other country in the world.

If you use real money to buy plat, and turn that plat into gold in game, and then make any type of "bet" including a daily lottery - that IS gambling. Granted there are no legitimate ways to turn game gold won back into paper in your pocket. Could you then turn around and file a gambling loss with your government? Ok, too complexed now, sorry.

Something's value is determined by what someone else will pay. Plain and simple. If someone can sell something for 500k - then that's the price. If all they can get is 250k, then that is the price.

You do not want PL to become a game where someone can be max level, max equipped, in days and have no CLUE about the game itself, much less HOW to play. This isn't Monopoly nor is it Mafia Wars.

Absolute best thing you can do (Mennddoza) is find other players who need gold and farm your fingers off.

ZJ

[Kraze]

You do not want PL to become a game where someone can be max level, max equipped, in days and have no CLUE about the game itself, much less HOW to play. This isn't Monopoly nor is it Mafia Wars.


ZJ

This is already an issue

[noobmigo]

This is already an issue

Not in days. But in a week or so, maybe.

[Kraze]

Not in days. But in a week or so, maybe.
Eh split hairs if ya must point is still valid

[noobmigo]

Eh split hairs if ya must point is still valid

:D Yes, exactly.

[superglut2]

i likequest reward idea

[Orcish]

Item packs are already a type of gambling in PL, that directly give's you several random items for plat. We need more money sinks and more unique ways of obtaining gold. People aren't breaking any laws or regulations. Can anyone guess why? Because nobody can turn it into irl currency. If you are rich enough irl, then you can buy all the gold you want to; power level, buy just about any item, travel to any destination within PL etc. Hey that's just the way it is. The word gambling has such a stigma surrounding it people freak out, but if you put a poka-dots on a little box, that plays music, which reads "insert coin here" at a chance to see the funny clown, then people are cool with it. So long as people aren't obtaining irl currency (against EULA) for gold, then its ok.

[Unxtoxic]

One of the best gold sinks I've seen in many mmo's, is an option to make a bet or gamble a small fortune in some kind of mini game. Heck even a lottery would work.

Yes a lot of people want lotteries even me too, this could be a great idea to be added to PL. Also I love the idea to get a easier way to get gold and in farming you don't always get the items that's worth a lot of gold.

[Unxtoxic]

I've suggested this many times before.

Instead of buying income though, (too easy gold, no) you get the income via doing jobs.

Jobs would be great :) i would love be hired by people like tankkaar, Hunzzz, evolt, and anyone else who would give a good pay :)