When Will Star Legends Launch? - Currently Working with Apple for App Approval

[Samhayne]

A lot of people have been asking when exactly Star Legends: The Blackstar Chronicles will launch and we want to give you all an update. As you know, we always launch simultaneously to all of our channels (Apple App Store, Android Marketplace, GetJar). We submitted to Apple for approval on July 11th (Link here (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?30671-Star-Legends-1.0.1-has-been-submitted-to-Apple!)). Usually, with Pocket Legends, we usually get approval or rejection from Apple in about 1 to 2 weeks. We are working with Apple now with the submission.

All of that means that it could still be several days or next week before everything is approved and Star Legends launches.

We are very excited to get Star Legends into the hands of everyone who wants to play it. We will post here further when more information becomes available. Thanks as always for your support - Spacetime Studios Games' wouldn't be anything without you, our fans!

[Cascade]

Hmmm...so then android isn't gunna be released before apple?...:(

[icantgetkills]

Hmmm...so then android isn't gunna be released before apple?...:(

no that would be uberly unfair >.<

[Cascade]

Well apple takes stinking forever to approve apps...

[CanonicalKoi]

Depends on the app, the complexity and whether there's any need for changes. Thanks very, very much, Sam, for the update! *tries very hard to be patient and mature. fails at mature.*

[Cascade]

So let me get this straight...the beta ends tomorrow then the beta testers have to wait till the full version comes out?

[Samhayne]

So let me get this straight...the beta ends tomorrow then the beta testers have to wait till the full version comes out?

The V CAST Beta will not end tomorrow. Hopefully everything will come together and the game will go into full launch on all channels. It could still happen - just not as likely at this juncture.

[Cascade]

So we still getbto play beta till the full launch?

[Magicfrost]

Well... im not sure what to think about this... I really don't know... I cant play PL much cause nothing new is out yet and if i read this correctly the app could be several days to a week before its approved to apple? What if it isnt approved by apple..? And why are android users getting mad? Atleast you have the game right? Im stuck bored so please dont ask for beta to be out or apple users will be lvl 1 while you are level 20+...

[nazgulking]

Thanks very, very much, Sam, for the update! *tries very hard to be patient and mature. fails at mature.*

Agreed. Thank you for keeping us informed and yes I'm TRYING, I am really am TRYING, to not get mad at Apple. Lol

[Snakespeare]

He said "We are working with Apple now with the submission." In other words, PL came to the top of the queue.

Apple reviews thousands of apps every day. I had the number somewhere as well as the number of testers. It comes down to about 40 minutes. Most good apps are approved right away. Most of the time waiting is because they are strictly first-come first-served. That's how long it takes to come up for review after you submitted it!

Here's a recent summary of what they are trying to weed out.


Some rules of note in the guidelines:

User interface:

Apps that create alternate desktop/home screen environments or simulate multi-app widget experiences will be rejected

Apps that alter the functions of standard switches, such as the Volume Up/Down and Ring/Silent switches, will be rejected

Apps that look similar to apps bundled on the iPhone, including the App Store, iTunes Store, and iBookstore, will be rejected



Content:

Apps that are simply web clippings, content aggregators, or a collection of links, may be rejected

"Enemies" within the context of a game cannot solely target a specific race, culture, a real government or corporation, or any other real entity

Apps that include games of Russian roulette will be rejected

Apps that contain user generated content that is frequently pornographic (ex "Chat Roulette" apps) will be rejected

Apps containing pornographic material, defined by Webster's Dictionary as "explicit descriptions or displays of sexual organs or activities intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings," will be rejected

Apps that duplicate apps already in the App Store may be rejected, particularly if there are many of them

Apps that are not very useful or do not provide any lasting entertainment value may be rejected

Apps may contain or quote religious text provided the quotes or translations are accurate and not misleading. Commentary should be educational or informative rather than inflammatory

Apps that misspell Apple product names in their app name (i.e., GPS for Iphone, iTunz) will be rejected


Bandwidth:

Audio streaming content over a cellular network may not use more than 5MB over 5 minutes

Video streaming content over a cellular network longer than 10 minutes must use HTTP Live Streaming and include a baseline 64 kbps audio-only HTTP Live stream

Apps that excessively use the network capacity or bandwidth of the APN service or unduly burden a device with Push Notifications will be rejected


Privacy:

Apps that do not notify and obtain user consent before collecting, transmitting, or using location data will be rejected

Apps cannot transmit data about a user without obtaining the user's prior permission and providing the user with access to information about how and where the data will be used

Apps that require users to share personal information, such as email address and date of birth, in order to function will be rejected

Apps that target minors for data collection will be rejected
source: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/09/09/apples_app_store_review_guidelines_we_dont_need_an ymore_fart_apps.html

[StompArtist]

"Enemies" within the context of a game cannot solely target a specific race, culture, a real government or corporation, or any other real entity

- To a member of the Zombie Rights Coalition Apple should reject PL. What happens then???

[Snakespeare]

- To a member of the Zombie Rights Coalition Apple should reject PL. What happens then???

LOL!!!

But zombies aren't a specific race. Watch Michael Jackson's Thriller again. Anyone can become a zombie. It's a metaphor for losing your soul.

[halolordd]

So I android market getting it befor apple or what

[Snakespeare]

...we always launch simultaneously to all of our channels (Apple App Store, Android Marketplace, GetJar)

so... nope

[Lowlyspy]

Gotta say, I hate apple right now. I want the game to launch already but apple's overly strict rules mess up the fun for everybody when it comes to games like this that are open to multiple providers.

Thank you for the update samhayne, hopefully everything works out according to schedule.

[Silentarrow]

Thanks for keeping us updated Sam, I guess I'll just have to keep waiting a bit longer...

[Snakespeare]

Don't you guys understand what Sam was saying? This is GOOD NEWS. Most of the time in the approval process is waiting for your turn in the queue. SL has finally come to the top of the queue. That means, if it passes (and why wouldn't it?), that it won't be much longer to wait. But he can't say "it will be very, very soon" because that could jinx it. So he had to say "it could be several days or a week". Read between the lines. This is cause for celebration.

And p.s. Android users got to beta test, so stop hating on Apple.

p.p.s. dated March 5th, discusses Malware in apps when not tested!!! (http://mymindstalk.blogspot.com/2011/03/android-malware-apps-with-trojan.html)

[Thegodofgreen]

8'( crying but meh waited this long...

BTW not all Droid users got beta.

[Gabiew]

I'm a Droid user and i'm waiting impatiently for it to come out.. :/ *sigh* i think i'mma, go sleep till it comes out :)

[CappinClutch]

I know this is easy for me to say since I already have all three classes at 20+, but to those of you who haven't played it yet, it is sooooo worth the wait. Kinda like when ya order something dope and you're waiting what seems like forever for UPS, FedEx, or DSL to get there...but once you finally get it, it makes you apreciate it more...and also keep in mind that iOS had a hefty 6 month jump on PL...so the shoes on the other foot a lil bit...adjust and take a deep breathe...now hold it until ya pass out...wake up and play SL lol! See you guys in the game! Gonna be hectic when it drops!

[CappinClutch]

Oh and of course...DROID FTW.

[xero]

This announcement can be taken in either a pessamistic or optamistic veiw by most forumers (ie the glass is half empty or half full)... either way, the people that don't have access to the beta (such as apple and some droid users), have to wait.

I think Sam said it best in another thread.... Patience is a virtue :)

Fyi, I don't have the beta as I'm on Sprint network, not Verizon.

[khaotic]

Oh and of course...DROID FTW. heyyyyy cappinclutch its khaos XD anyways the game does rock , although im not surprised that appl is taking a while to let it release. but thats how things go... ive just been enjoying the game lol....

[Snakespeare]

This announcement can be taken in either a pessamistic or optamistic veiw by most forumers (ie the glass is half empty or half full)... either way, the people that don't have access to the beta (such as apple and some droid users), have to wait.

I think Sam said it best in another thread.... Patience is a virtue :)

Fyi, I don't have the beta as I'm on Sprint network, not Verizon.

ohhhh.... I'm going for optimism on this one. Annie says it best!

http://youtu.be/Yop62wQH498

[Mkcecil]

Sometimes patience is what I have a lot of and sometimes I don't have any, in this case I'm kinda impatient and want it now! But I'll be playing it and enjoy it more when it comes out, though a nice present from apple would be to release it in like a week instead of 2 weeks. But life goes on

[Snakespeare]

I know... what we have to remember is that you can only get to level 20, then 21 at 10x XP, and by this time next week we'll be at level cap. So why rush it?

[CanonicalKoi]

I choose to remain stupidly optimistic. But then, if I found a gift-wrapped bag of horse manure under my Christmas tree, I'd go looking for the pony...

[ratava]

Gotta say, I hate apple right now. I want the game to launch already but apple's overly strict rules mess up the fun for everybody when it comes to games like this that are open to multiple providers.

Thank you for the update samhayne, hopefully everything works out according to schedule.

Well it's annoying as its delaying an awesome game. That said, thank gawd they are stringent otherwise the marketplace in the app store would be full of loads of junk/malware and such like that the Android market has suffered as well as masses of plagiarised apps etc that have put loads of devs off from using it.

So silver-lining to the process afterall... but yeah, Star Legends looks too awesome to delay any longer! :banana:

[bronislav84]

This announcement can be taken in either a pessamistic or optamistic veiw by most forumers (ie the glass is half empty or half full)... either way, the people that don't have access to the beta (such as apple and some droid users), have to wait.

I think Sam said it best in another thread.... Patience is a virtue :)

Fyi, I don't have the beta as I'm on Sprint network, not Verizon.I'm not on Verizon either and I got to beta on T-Mobile. It all comes down to luck and if you wanna try, but all I'm saying is you could have looked around the sites getting people into the beta and tried. I never win anything, so imagine my surprise when I saw my name on Droid Fans' list.

I have a question for Sam! How will transition from beta to release client be handled for Android? Will we be able to install from the Market directly over the non-Market beta app and keep our settings/cache/etc, or will we have to first uninstall the beta client before getting the release from the Market?

Is the beta client designed to tell the user when the release client is available or will it suddenly disconnect, then we have to guess the beta is over and to go get the release client to be able to continue to play? Maybe we will be told ingame?

And most important of all! Will there be an end of beta event? :D

[Magicfrost]

I agree that patience is a virtue but people dont want to see two weeks the game will be released then here comes week two and now its said next week... Can we really believe next week this app will be released or will it just be delayed again? Yeah i know im being a bit pushy but summer break is ending soon... Some of us play sports alot and we like to come home to a game but what if this game is constantly delayed? You cant keep saying patience is a virtue that works sometimes but after a while people lose their patience.

[Magicfrost]

Like right now i looked forward for these 2 weeks to go by then all of the sudden this thread pops up saying, guys it might not be released until next week:/ Like when amazon got messed up we waited like 2-3 days and now the people who cant play SL have to play PL and we are also waiting for guilds and the expansion which they said later this summer it will be released what happens if they delay that? Do you guys really think everyone will have patience? Im trying to keep my mouth shut but ive been patient to long and am actually getting mad at this stuff..

[Silentarrow]

Like right now i looked forward for these 2 weeks to go by then all of the sudden this thread pops up saying, guys it might not be released until next week:/ Like when amazon got messed up we waited like 2-3 days and now the people who cant play SL have to play PL and we are also waiting for guilds and the expansion which they said later this summer it will be released what happens if they delay that? Do you guys really think everyone will have patience? Im trying to keep my mouth shut but ive been patient to long and am actually getting mad at this stuff..
As said above almost all of the wait is over, Star Legends is now at the top of the waiting list (I think) for all we know it may be released tommorow or on Thursday.

[Tvis]

Like right now i looked forward for these 2 weeks to go by then all of the sudden this thread pops up saying, guys it might not be released until next week:/ Like when amazon got messed up we waited like 2-3 days and now the people who cant play SL have to play PL and we are also waiting for guilds and the expansion which they said later this summer it will be released what happens if they delay that? Do you guys really think everyone will have patience? Im trying to keep my mouth shut but ive been patient to long and am actually getting mad at this stuff..

I know what you mean. It's friggin frustrating.

[AOmonsta]

Awesome news. I have really enjoyed beta.

[Kraze]

Eh waits almost over! I can't see why this full of half empty posts any news is good news at this point

[Magicfrost]

As said above almost all of the wait is over, Star Legends is now at the top of the waiting list (I think) for all we know it may be released tommorow or on Thursday.

They just said it could be several days to a week i doubt it would be tommorrow or thursday. And like i posted some of us play sports like me... I may not be here to play it if it ever gets released...

[CanonicalKoi]

C'mon, now. Some of us work 10 hour days, but people find the time to do the things they enjoy. :) Sure, I'd like it released *right now*, but that isn't going to happen. I can't get mad at STS--they took the time to give us a new game and an update to the existing game that they thought we'd enjoy. They took the time to give us new content and new challenges and took the time to try and make sure both went through the vetting process with Apple quickly. I can't get mad at Apple--they're doing their best to make sure virii, malware and crap that breaks my device doesn't land in their App store. They take submissions on a first come/first served basis and there were other people ahead of what we want so badly. Them, as my father used to say, is the breaks. I can get mad, but without a villain to be mad at, it seems kind of pointless to me. So....I'll wait. Of course, I'll be obsessively checking the Announcement section of the Forums for good news, rubbing the rabbit's feet for luck and chewing on my fingernails, but I'll wait.

Hang on in there. Some of us are still awaiting *cough* Diablo III *cough*. :D

[Shadowie]

Come on guys, this is meant to be an official informayion from the dev. Thanks sam for the wonderful OFFICIAL information.

When game crashes, or glitches, ppls complain. When game r too simple, ppls complain it boring. What u guys need? Btw, lucky there r few good patient one. Let wait patiently for the new launch. Among so many who complains, i doubt there r more than 5 who actually did all 190/190 quests and hit the lvl cap. So quit the complains and finishes up all before u raise another eyebrown!

PS: currently doing the last 2 elite frost quests. Any productive help greatly appreciate!

IGN: Glamiour

[Otukura]

Diablo III

Oh, the years we've been waiting now. I'm at my breaking point.

[Cascade]

Diablo III is just a myth blizzard just made it up ;)

[Otukura]

Diablo III is just a myth blizzard just made it up ;)

It certainty seems like it!!

[Fyrce]

It's coming!

And so is SL!

[Kraze]

Diablo3 is what 7 years in the making? In the grand scheme of things what's a few more days *refreshes app store for 100th time today*

[Jabalba]

Thx sam for the info! :)

[Magicfrost]

@shadowie Did you really just say only five people are 190/190? There are way more and anyway not very much people want to do quests if we are lvled already. And I thought the other thread was OFFICIAL information but i guessed wrong so how do you know this is OFFICIAL information.

[Magicfrost]

If i looked at all of the people or companies who gave us time to update a game and make a new game I would be bored out of my mind. Gameloft made about 50 games and the try to update them all. Mojang made Minecraft and Scrolls and tons more and they update them constantly they dont do this for fun people do this stuff to start a company and make money and sometimes they do it for fun or for us. So really dont act like they are the only company that does it.

[ratava]

Still not out in app store... but closer by the second!

[Magicfrost]

Okay wait i just reread it apple didnt say a specific time or date sts is just going with what they did with pocket legends so this could actually take like 2 months or 6 months so don't get your hopes up about this being in the app store in 1 week or anytime sooner i mean it could be several days to a week but it could also be several months because if you read above they usually took 1-2 weeks to accept pocket legends that doesnt mean this will be 1-2 weeks it could alot longer. Just thought id tell the people so their hopes arent all up for nothing.

[CriostalCamhaoir]

Cannot wait for the release so that my son can play! He has been itching since his dad and I both won beta keys! He will be ecstatic when he can run around with mom and dad again, since we haven't been playing PL much!

[nazgulking]

@Magicfrost: You just killed my day :(

[Snakespeare]

Okay wait i just reread it apple didnt say a specific time or date sts is just going with what they did with pocket legends so this could actually take like 2 months or 6 months so don't get your hopes up about this being in the app store in 1 week or anytime sooner i mean it could be several days to a week but it could also be several months because if you read above they usually took 1-2 weeks to accept pocket legends that doesnt mean this will be 1-2 weeks it could alot longer. Just thought id tell the people so their hopes arent all up for nothing.

I disagree. Most of the waiting time is waiting your turn to get reviewed. The review process itself can not take too long because Apple reviews thousands of apps per week. But this is a new app, not an update, so that probably means the full suite of tests. Furthermore, I posted the summary from a developer site of the things that an app can get rejected for, and never has PL ever had any of those issues. Well, one... the townes are social so they have to prove that they enforce rules of basic decency. So there is no real reason for rejecting it, unless it crashes unexpectedly. But STS knows about those requirements and has submitted to Apple enough times to anticipate all those things.

In short, once it got to the top of the queue yesterday, it should be coming any day now. Only a critical flaw could stop it, and the devs are too experienced to submit such to Apple.

So I think it will happen today! :cool:

I am jealous of the Droid people in one regard. They have more media participation in games development. Apple e-zines and glossies just seem to treat games as second-class apps. But look at how the various Droid-zines get involved with the developers, taking interviews, putting out reviews, generating hype. If there were that kind of involvement from the Apple side of things, then maybe there would be Apple icons floating over people's heads, not just antennae and playstation buttons. Good work, Droid fans. Apple fans, we gotta write some letters!

[Mega pwner]

if im correct and i dont know if i am, but as far as i know apple updates the app store at midnight every day so if u really want to be the first one to have it stay up till midnight every day and check at 12:01 every day.

[Mega pwner]

I am jealous of the Droid people in one regard. They have more media participation in games development. Apple e-zines and glossies just seem to treat games as second-class apps. But look at how the various Droid-zines get involved with the developers, taking interviews, putting out reviews, generating hype. If there were that kind of involvement from the Apple side of things, then maybe there would be Apple icons floating over people's heads, not just antennae and playstation buttons. Good work, Droid fans. Apple fans, we gotta write some letters!
i totally and completeley agree with you! we need to start a petition or start writing letters!!

[Tvis]

i totally and completeley agree with you! we need to start a petition or start writing letters!!

We should fill up their support inbox!

[Zerious]

@Blizzard remarks. Lol you think Diablo III is a disappointment, any one remeber the Starcraft: Ghost project? That was gonna be epic....

on topic: Yeah I'm super anxious about jumping in SL. I know the twinks from PL are gonna be a little irritated with me not being on as much, but it's SL!!

[Thegodofgreen]

Probably already full.

Devs working hard can't hate but ready. Till then PL up. Trying to be at least 50... stuck at 46

[Tvis]

Probably already full.

Devs working hard can't hate but ready. Till then PL up. Trying to be at least 50... stuck at 46

I was talking about Apple's inbox. Spam it up! JK

[Sanityreaper]

Yeah just so u guys are aware of it anything need to get done in pl u better hurry because I gerentee that everyone from pl is gona be gonnnee in sl I personaly think thetes gona be so much sever traffic that lag and server shut down will prob happen

[SssoulSsshine]

8'( crying but meh waited this long...

BTW not all Droid users got beta.

BTW not all VERIZON Droid users got beta...

Many Verizon users on compatible devices were unable to install. I have an original Droid, which is on the supposed list of compatible devices, went through items in the forum, including attempting the links to install VCast Apps directly from Verizon, *228, several hours on the phone with Verizon "technical" support...finally went to the Verizon store and attempted to install, with the blessing of a store associate, the app on no less than 7 different Droids, before I finally got it to install on an Xperia Play so I could log in and reserve my name and tool around for a few minutes (and the phones were in demo mode so I got at best 5 minutes at a time before it reset...)

I suspect most Verizon Droid users unable to install gave up long before my stubborn behind and just assumed their device was incompatible or there was some other reason that they weren't supposed to be able to have the beta when it was just Verizon's messed up distribution...

On the plus side, I was able to score a beta key to install on my eee Transformer tablet and it is amazing and getting better by the day...
You WILL LOVE IT!

Thanks Devs for EverYtHinG!!!!

[Phoenixking]

if im correct and i dont know if i am, but as far as i know apple updates the app store at midnight every day so if u really want to be the first one to have it stay up till midnight every day and check at 12:01 every day.I sleep at one :D so i have an advantage of being insomniac (i think)

[SssoulSsshine]

Here's a recent summary of what they are trying to weed out.
Some rules of note in the guidelines:

(snip)

Content:

(snip)

Apps containing pornographic material, defined by Webster's Dictionary as "explicit descriptions or displays of sexual organs or activities intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings," will be rejected

(snip)


Hmmmm....maybe the testers are busy looking at the lovely ladies running around B* too...

PUT DOWN THAT TWO-HANDED WEAPON! IT'S BLOCKING MY VIEW!

:-)

If you can't tell I'm joking, please take your facetiousness-meter in for recalibration....

[Snakespeare]

They're real skinny like whatsername... Aeon Flux... hmmm... could have a point there.


if im correct and i dont know if i am, but as far as i know apple updates the app store at midnight every day so if u really want to be the first one to have it stay up till midnight every day and check at 12:01 every day.

Apple doesn't make the app go live. They just tell the STS devs it passed. Then the devs set up the new server-side application and move the database. Then they wait until they have a full crew at STS (i.e. after 9 AM Texas time). Then STS decides to go live and throws some switch to make it visible on App Store. Then they announce. Then after a few hours, they take down the old server-side application.

So, don't bother checking at midnight. Check this forum. They always post before release. Sometimes after posting, people still can't see it in European countries for a few hours.

[kilainstinctss]

Not looking good for a release today is it guys :/ i don't know how much longer i can wait! D:

[nazgulking]

i don't know how much longer i can wait! D:

Agreed. I don't know how many bad feelings my poor heart can withstand now. Lol.

[Snakespeare]

Not looking good for a release today is it guys :/ i don't know how much longer i can wait! D:

Nope, they never release this late in the day. They try to do it when there are enough devs to respond to the feedback with quick fixes. So, maybe tomorrow.

[Magicfrost]

I dont think tommorrow they said several days to a week so as far as we know apple can delay it again causing people to rage at sts.

[Mkcecil]

I dont think tommorrow they said several days to a week so as far as we know apple can delay it again causing people to rage at sts.

Why would we rage on STS when it's apples fault for not just saying okay and putting the app up...should be the other way around, it causes us to rage at apple not STS. But I'm losing my mind ever day. gotta wait, while saying to myself it will be okay, it will be okay *_*...ok jk im just bored of PL lol

[Kraze]

Oh clock just moved I'm on minute closer to sl...

[clonefoursix]

Oh clock just moved I'm on minute closer to sl...
No way...

[Snakespeare]

LOL! I guess you guys just don't have the same optimism as me.

But you've got to know that even if Apple passed it earlier today, the devs still have to set up the server-side application, migrate the beta test database, wipe the kills, make sure everything works, and then wait until everyone is at work the next day before throwing the switch that makes it visible to us in the App Store.

The reason why Sam said it could be several days or several weeks was to play it safe. The real news was simply what is written in the title: "currently working with Apple". Everything else was so we don't get our hopes too high because of Murphy's Law.

[kilainstinctss]

no news is good news i always say. Since a dev hasn't posted in a while, i would think that's good. Meaning there wasn't any problems so far. If apple would have rejected it im sure we would know. Keep ur fingers crossed for tomarrow. I got a good feeling...

[Silentarrow]

I'm hoping for tommorow! If not, I might just get my bird to 50...

[AOmonsta]

Yea the longer they delay, the more PL I can get in. I wonder how many people will be on PL once SL is released?

[Siejo]

We'd be totally ecstatic to launch Star Legends today, but it's not approved for the App Store so... Looks like it will be next week at the earliest.

Taken from the other thread....sadness:(

[Register]

Why would we rage on STS when it's apples fault for not just saying okay and putting the app up...should be the other way around, it causes us to rage at apple not STS. But I'm losing my mind ever day. gotta wait, while saying to myself it will be okay, it will be okay *_*...ok jk im just bored of PL lol

its not apples fault at all. If apple just said ok to SL, they would have to do the same to just about other app. On a thread, somebody noted that there is a waiting list kinda thing. Its not like the approval happens right away...its not STS's fault either...Lol it WONT be ok! Imma die! I...WILL...DIE..FROM...NOT...HAVING..SL....Help me. PL0X

[Mkcecil]

its not apples fault at all. If apple just said ok to SL, they would have to do the same to just about other app. On a thread, somebody noted that there is a waiting list kinda thing. Its not like the approval happens right away...its not STS's fault either...Lol it WONT be ok! Imma die! I...WILL...DIE..FROM...NOT...HAVING..SL....Help me. PL0X

I know its just...it feels like an etirnity for it to come out...reminds me when i was a kid my mom told me to wait 1 day to get my new toy and every hour felt like weeks -_-

[Tvis]

I know its just...it feels like an etirnity for it to come out...reminds me when i was a kid my mom told me to wait 1 day to get my new toy and every hour felt like weeks -_-

Except for in this case, every second feels like weeks.

[Samhayne]

Hey guys, I just want to reiterate what I originally announced. We're sorry that we can't give a specific date, but the approval process is just that, a process. When it's done, we'll roll the bones. We are as excited to launch Star Legends as you are to play it. Thanks for your continued support and patience.


A lot of people have been asking when exactly Star Legends: The Blackstar Chronicles will launch and we want to give you all an update. As you know, we always launch simultaneously to all of our channels (Apple App Store, Android Marketplace, GetJar). We submitted to Apple for approval on July 11th (Link here (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?30671-Star-Legends-1.0.1-has-been-submitted-to-Apple!)). Usually, with Pocket Legends, we usually get approval or rejection from Apple in about 1 to 2 weeks. We are working with Apple now with the submission.

All of that means that it could still be several days or next week before everything is approved and Star Legends launches.

We are very excited to get Star Legends into the hands of everyone who wants to play it. We will post here further when more information becomes available. Thanks as always for your support - Spacetime Studios Games' wouldn't be anything without you, our fans!

[Silentarrow]

Sam, if Star Legends is done being tested by Apple on the weekend, when do you think we should see it in the app store?
Hopefully Monday :D.

[Samhayne]

Sam, if Star Legends is done being tested by Apple on the weekend, when do you think we should see it in the app store?
Hopefully Monday :D.

Sorry, not giving any estimates. It will come together when it comes together. Thanks as always for your patience and support!

[Cassric]

It's not good to hurry up...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RREqjbKKy_w

[DRONE769]

Srry for saying burritos

[Register]

I know its just...it feels like an etirnity for it to come out...reminds me when i was a kid my mom told me to wait 1 day to get my new toy and every hour felt like weeks -_-

Haha..i remember when my mom asked if i wanted to get my bday present a day early and i said no trying to be all humble and all....then an hour later i broke and asked for the present. ofc she didnt give it to me till i asked some more lmao...hopefuly the approvral process doesnt take too long so we can play SL. I hope it comes out at midnight or something....any other time would be weird :/ I mean i dont wanna wake up to having SL be released 5 mins later. It takes out the fun :D

[kilainstinctss]

Yeah, sucks waiting...look on the bright side guys, it hasn't been denied as it looks so far. Cant be to much longer. Just think how we would feel if sam of someone would come here and give us that news that noooo one wants. SL is up to bat at apple,that's about as good as we could hope for.id pay to be able to play it right now...oh yeah quick q. My buddy got perma banned on PL,does that carry over to SL?

[kaijustorm]

This is awesome news! I missed the beta by not being a Vcast customer, and was too late to recieve any beta key, but I'll wait as long as it takes in anxious anticipation for SL even if its half as good as what the beta testers are saying. If I read and understand this correctly, that means that the "earliest" it would release is the 26th and the "latest" would be Aug. 2nd give or take a few days depending on Apple's mood... either way I'm stoked!

[LessaMoore]

This is awesome news! I missed the beta by not being a Vcast customer, and was too late to recieve any beta key, but I'll wait as long as it takes in anxious anticipation for SL even if its half as good as what the beta testers are saying. If I read and understand this correctly, that means that the "earliest" it would release is the 26th and the "latest" would be Aug. 2nd give or take a few days depending on Apple's mood... either way I'm stoked! hi guys! Do you think they will release it at night so their servers don't crash by the volume of downloads :) hee heee.

[Mkcecil]

hi guys! Do you think they will release it at night so their servers don't crash by the volume of downloads :) hee heee.

If they were gunna release at night i couldnt sleep then :( id have to stay awake all week :O

[xero]

Seems like this thread is starting to devolve into a thread about other games...

ANYWHO, I've got the patience of a saint (or so I've been told anyway xD)... I don't mind waiting for a couple more weeks if that's what ends up happening...

Meh, I'm sure ill get flamed for this post too so yay! Keep your chins up people... before you know it, SL will be out and we all will be vegging out on IT instead of PL (or atleast until the expansion drops :) )

[Snakespeare]

hi guys! Do you think they will release it at night so their servers don't crash by the volume of downloads :) hee heee.

In the past they have only released when all the devs are at work, and early in the day... for obvious reasons. :)

[DRONE769]

I need patience and i need it now

[DRONE769]

Just so you know.......


I saw PL in my magazene of best android apps of all time. Games section only had 9 games and PL was in it. I thought u want to know pl players. Be proud of your game. Long live spacetime studios!!!

[Samhayne]

Which magazine, Drone769? Take a picture and post it!

[Register]

Can you delay the SL release...say....a month or so? I wanna get to 55/56 on my bird :D

[Phoenixking]

Can you delay the SL release...say....a month or so? I wanna get to 55/56 on my bird :DIts not all about you ;D its about me lmao jk

[Register]

Its not all about you ;D its about me lmao jk

oh right i forgot! You need to take Phoenix into consideration. So you will need to delay SL release about 2 months. K?

[Arguntom]

Hey Sam why don't you just post the game in the android market, and let it be a lil secret, between us android users and Spacetime Studios. ;-) What IOS users don't know wont hurt them lol

[squishyoreos]

Hey Sam why don't you just post the game in the android market, and let it be a lil secret, between us android users and Spacetime Studios. ;-) What IOS users don't know wont hurt them lol I second this movement!

[DRONE769]

Ok sam

[DRONE769]

Hey Sam why don't you just post the game in the android market, and let it be a lil secret, between us android users and Spacetime Studios. ;-) What IOS users don't know wont hurt them lol I second this movement!
I third it

[DRONE769]

It wont lemme post em

[DRONE769]

It says im logged in but im not allowed to preform this action (posting a pic)

[MonkeyMan5539]

I cant wait for SL but ive got Borderlands to play. I need to finish my second playthrough anyway. PL is still epic though

[LessaMoore]

If they were gunna release at night i couldnt sleep then :( id have to stay awake all week :O

Hahahaha me too. I do have a couple of vacation days coming up

[LessaMoore]

In the past they have only released when all the devs are at work, and early in the day... for obvious reasons. :)

Makes perfect sense, I just hate the wait. Now! Now! Now! Me ! Me! Me! :)

[Pvpdexbear]

i cant wait the suspense is killing me!!

[Wolffen]

Let the game begin! Warp speed... oops Apple in way... hard to starboard. lol :D

Waiting, waiting...

[Zerious]

Someone post a vid of Barueca Saltz from the original Willy Wonka and the Chocalate Factory. That's the vibe i get from this thread XD

[DRONE769]

Hey sam it wont lemme post my pics

[DRONE769]

HELP!!!

[Silentarrow]

Drone, please do not double post, you can always edit your last post. As for wondering how to post pictures please check here-http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?995-How-to-post-screenshots-using-ONLY-your-Iphone.&highlight=post+pictures

[Ishadowera]

so...tired...of...waiting, playing pl is getting tough, the repetitiveness is beginning to get grueling, rawr, B* and pl expansion NAO plz :D

[SUPAPRODIGY]

Ahhh apple makes me laugh hehe so many rules if I could control apple I would accept all apps it's about the money if you know what I mean :)

[DRONE769]

But im on a moto atrix 4g

[DRONE769]

Random: who here has been pied in the face before. I havent:( but want to:rolleyes:

[superglut2]

hopefully we can play monday

[Register]

hopefully we can play monday

hopefully :)

[DRONE769]

Ya hopefully

[DRONE769]

http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k608/drone769/2011-07-22_19-46-33_962.jpg

[DRONE769]

http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k608/drone769/2011-07-22_19-46-33_962.jpg

[DRONE769]

http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k608/drone769/2011-07-22_19-46-50_654.jpg

[DRONE769]

I did it!!!

[Mkcecil]

Cool 5/5 rating :)

[squishyoreos]

Omg star legends??? When is it coming out? Now? How bout now? Monday??? ;) jk

[romgar1]

Hey guys, I just want to reiterate what I originally announced. We're sorry that we can't give a specific date, but the approval process is just that, a process. When it's done, we'll roll the bones. We are as excited to launch Star Legends as you are to play it. Thanks for your continued support and patience. Sam most of understand we are just excited and ready for launch. I am on beta but miss my friends from pl. Cant wait till the socialist enitiy known as Apple approves star legends .

[nazgulking]

Agreed. We are all but excited :) All this exciment is a good sign for STS :)

[Silentarrow]

Lets hope for tommorow!

[AOmonsta]

Yea I would love to wake up tomorrow and see "Beta" off the startup screen haha.

But I'm in no hurry. Still have a lot to do in PL.

[DRONE769]

SIGH i have alll day lax camp for a week starting tomorow. At one of the most hardcore places in america. Its only my second year of lax

[Magicfrost]

Looks like what i said before is right... They took their prodictions from pocket legends and it could be months before launch.

[squishyoreos]

Did some posts get deleted?

[Register]

Im not hoping for tomorrow actually....I want it to be like in a week. I still gotta get some stuff done in PL and when SL comes out im going for the cap and then making extra gold for when cap is raised and then going into SL hibernation to finish what im doing in PL for the level cap raise.

[squishyoreos]

Why can't the game be released while you do that lol. Just finish what you're doing anyway ;)

[Eyesharp]

Oh cmon is out out already??!!!!IT'S BEEN 2 WEEKS!

[Snakespeare]

Sam most of understand we are just excited and ready for launch. I am on beta but miss my friends from pl. Cant wait till the socialist enitiy known as Apple approves star legends .

Apple is a capitalist entity. The people who want Apple to just release any garbage that is submitted to their store are socialist.

That said, it's TAKING TOO LONG! C'mon, Apple. You're losing money!

[Mkcecil]

Apple is a capitalist entity. The people who want Apple to just release any garbage that is submitted to their store are socialist.

That said, it's TAKING TOO LONG! C'mon, Apple. You're losing money!

How are they losing money?

[Silentarrow]

No word from the devs yet... Hopefully they are busy setting up the servers :D.

[squishyoreos]

How are they losing money? Could be causing apple users to second guess their service and consider switching to android ;)

[jjhiza]

Honestly, switching service providers won't do anything. There are android users, and Verizon users who can't get into beta, because it's Vcast only. My OG Droid couldn't get Vcast, but my new Droid 3 does...just an example. I understand everyone's impatience (fully justified imo), because Apple seems to be dragging their feet. It's bad for those of you, itching to play, and it's unbelievably boring for those of us who can. I have two max level toons already, and simply don't want to bore myself with grinding out a third. The drops are repetitive, and the levels aren't challenging (with the exception of Miner), and most of us stand around in main, talking about what new emotes we'd like to see (galactic shart emote?!), lol. Don't get me wrong, the beta crew is epic, but this kind of waiting game is dangerous, as the boredom may drive people away from SL, ruining a great gaming experience. For everyone's sake, I hope we go live by next week... I'm getting antsy, lol.

[Eyesharp]

........ Apple is really slow with checking apps........

[squishyoreos]

Honestly, switching service providers won't do anything. There are android users, and Verizon users who can't get into beta, because it's Vcast only. My OG Droid couldn't get Vcast, but my new Droid 3 does...just an example. I understand everyone's impatience (fully justified imo), because Apple seems to be dragging their feet. It's bad for those of you, itching to play, and it's unbelievably boring for those of us who can. I have two max level toons already, and simply don't want to bore myself with grinding out a third. The drops are repetitive, and the levels aren't challenging (with the exception of minner), and most of us stand around in main, talking about what new emotes we'd like to see (galactic shart emote?!), lol. Don't get me wrong, the beta crew is epic, but this kind of waiting game is dangerous, as the boredom may drive people away from SL, ruining a great gaming experience. For everyone's sake, I hope we go live by next week... I'm getting antsy, lol. I think its safe to say everyone is losing their patience.

[Sworn]

I think its safe to say everyone is loosing their patience.
yup we are i mean i only leveled one to level 20 and im bored i dont even wanna start a new one. The lobby is getting smaller in the beta not to much going on cause they just want this game to release already lol

[squishyoreos]

I would kill to get into the beta with the way this wait is shaping up. Im getting rid of my DROID x tonight for a DROID 3 so ill actually get a bit of game play to hold me over for the actual release (if it ever happens.) :p

[CanonicalKoi]

I think its safe to say everyone is losing their patience.

*checks small box hidden in an envelope stuffed into a cigar-box which has been padded and put into a shoebox nestled in a somewhat larger box covered in duct tape and crammed into a carton with several dozen stuffed animals, a few mothballs, a collection of faded letters tied with tattered ribbon and a stuffed iguana named Frank*

Nope! Still there! ;)

[squishyoreos]

*checks small box hidden in an envelope stuffed into a cigar-box which has been padded and put into a shoebox nestled in a somewhat larger box covered in duct tape and crammed into a carton with several dozen stuffed animals, a few mothballs, a collection of faded letters tied with tattered ribbon and a stuffed iguana named Frank)

Nope! Still there! ;) *Devises a hiest, armed with the new knowledge of the location of Canon's patience.*

[DRONE769]

*checks small box hidden in an envelope stuffed into a cigar-box which has been padded and put into a shoebox nestled in a somewhat larger box covered in duct tape and crammed into a carton with several dozen stuffed animals, a few mothballs, a collection of faded letters tied with tattered ribbon and a stuffed iguana named Frank)

Nope! Still there! ;) *Devises a hiest, armed with the new knowledge of the location of Canon's patience.* im with you. Ill be armed with a backpackpack full of pranks and explosives

[squishyoreos]

im with you. Ill be armed with a backpackpack full of pranks and explosives I now designate you DRONE769, distractions specialist.

[DRONE769]

" look at that squirrel........ wait whatd u say. Wow look at that thing......

[DRONE769]

My programming has errorADD

[CanonicalKoi]

My patience is under the baleful regard of....

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll81/Moorit/inyourdreams.jpg

HIM!!!

Frankie say, "Relax". Bunny say, "In your dreams, kiddo!"

[squishyoreos]

I'm not sure what im looking at lol

[CanonicalKoi]

Lol! My faithful, yet fearsome, attack rabbit. Ears are back in preparation for leaping at or upon any interlopers. (Lower lip is a little pouty because treats weren't forthcoming fast enough. But....fierce!)

[DRONE769]

Bunny vs prank pack........

[Pinkftw]

Any clue on when Star Legends is going to be released ?

[Silentarrow]

Maybe today or tommorow.

[Ovocotto]

Maybe today or tommorow.

I hope :(

[Tvis]

Maybe today or tommorow.

...or the next day, or the next day, or the next day, or the next day.... :p

[a.shampoo]

the problem that most developers cant adhere to their deadlines, is really annoying...y cant they put a generouse date so that the product may be released before but not after that deadline???

[Mkcecil]

Could be causing apple users to second guess their service and consider switching to android ;)

...that is every true but I honestly don't think apple is Gunna worry about some people switching to android...so many people bought a iPad 2. they put up the earnings from iPad 2 last year I think, it's crazy, but anyway... Hoping it comes out today since it's Tuesday...but I'm so busy today I won't be able to play!

[Tvis]

the problem that most developers cant adhere to their deadlines, is really annoying...y cant they put a generouse date so that the product may be released before but not after that deadline???

The developers have set and followed their deadlines. It's been in the app approval process with Apple for the last 2 weeks.

[a.shampoo]

The developers have set and followed their deadlines. It's been in the app approval process with Apple for the last 2 weeks.

then apple should speed up their "approval process" ;)

[Tvis]

then apple should speed up their "approval process" ;)

Most definitely :D

[squishyoreos]

More than 2 weeks at this point..

[Eyesharp]

Sigh I hope it comes out today

[squishyoreos]

Don't we all my friend..don't we all..

[Eyesharp]

Whoever knows apple people tell them to hurry the dang approval I always wanted to play a space mmo.

[Mkcecil]

then apple should speed up their "approval process" ;)

Agreed :)

[CanonicalKoi]

Meh. They get (according to one website) 637 apps submitted for approval every day. That's a lot to wade through. It'll be here when it gets here and until then, I'm a-getting my Zen on. :) (In my case, "Zen" still includes finger-nail biting, obsessive forum checking and abusing caffiene, but that's pretty Zen-like for me, really.)

[thugimmortal]

This was the scene outside of apples main headquarters today. An angry mob of spacetime fans were causing a scene of chaos. With the much anticipated star legends full release looming the fans couldn't contain themselves any longer.

http://tapatalk.com/mu/5284f8da-f1a6-0f6b.jpg

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[Ayc2000]

i've never been this excited before, and so impatient, except maybe for the few days when amazon broke down...

[Dazamo]

OMG! That's me right there! How did you get this pic? Apple pulled a media blackout to prevent this from showing. Do you have a picture showing Apple "peace keepers" throwing Generation 1 Ipod Nanos to the crowd to buy them off? Needless to say, but the result wasn't pretty.

[Snakespeare]

ack, double clicked

[Snakespeare]

This was the scene outside of apples main headquarters today. An angry mob of spacetime fans were causing a scene of chaos. With the much anticipated star legends full release looming the fans couldn't contain themselves any longer.

http://tapatalk.com/mu/5284f8da-f1a6-0f6b.jpg

Sent from my GT540 using Tapatalk

As a diehard fanboi, I must say... no. This is not how we feel. If Apple doesn't approve it, there must be something wrong with the app. Don't blame the messenger.

But the picture is hilarious!!!

[Mwayneo3]

Hurry up apple

[Snakespeare]

Sam said the problems are all "under the hood", so... HURRY UP, STS!

[squishyoreos]

Why hurry up STS? They've been ready. Otherwise they wouldn't have submitted sl for app approval.

[DRONE769]

If u have seen transformers kinda lol

[Snakespeare]

Why hurry up STS? They've been ready. Otherwise they wouldn't have submitted sl for app approval.

Y'know... that's not how it works. Things don't just automatically work. It takes a few tries. It's like farming items. You don't get a pink the first time.

This is a brand new app. It may be based on the same engine as PL, but it's far more complicated. Obviously, it didn't pass the tests. It came up in the queue a week ago. At over 600 apps to approve per day, and maybe ten testers, you only get about 45 minutes of their time.

Therefore, it wasn't approved, at first.

A week has passed. No doubt each day STS has had to fix something and re-submit, or to explain something.

Anyway, Sam said "it's all under the hood", so that means it's programming, which means bugs... so the burden is NOT on Apple to approve it. The burden is on STS to make it right. That's why I am saying, "Hurry up, STS."

Don't blame Apple for finding problems. Blame is a silly game anyway. But the burden to fix the problems is not on Apple, it's on STS.

[CanonicalKoi]

Why hurry up STS? They've been ready. Otherwise they wouldn't have submitted sl for app approval.

That's kinda like saying, "Of course all my test answers are right--I turned it in!" Gremlins love to infest code. No matter how careful you are, they just do. Don't ask how I know this. :rolleyes:

ETA: STS and Apple both want it right. I'd much rather they take their time now instead of down-loading, getting a taste of it and, "Oops! Big problem so the game's down until further notice!"

[squishyoreos]

That's all assumption. Sam said they hadn't heard from apple, which leads me to believe that it hasn't been rejected and is still under testing or on hold. If it had been rejected they would have told us.

[squishyoreos]

That's kinda like saying, "Of course all my test answers are right--I turned it in!" Gremlins love to infest code. No matter how careful you are, they just do. Don't ask how I know this. :rolleyes:

ETA: STS and Apple both want it right. I'd much rather they take their time now instead of down-loading, getting a taste of it and, "Oops! Big problem so the game's down until further notice!" You also wouldn't turn in a test half finished. They did their best to find any problems. Anything apple would find would most likely be minor.

[CanonicalKoi]

Seeing STS's work, I would think they did, but code-gremlins are *everywhere*! And re-do's aren't just for mistakes. Sometimes it's as simple as, "We've found an exploit that can use *X list of command lines*. Mind changing that around?"

As for me turning in something half-finished? No. Putting nonsensical answers to some questions? Possibly. Very, very possibly. ;)

[Snakespeare]

I no longer believe they would tell us anything like that. What is their motive? What would they gain by telling us they had to resubmit and wait through another week for it to come up in the queue again. That week has come and gone. There has been ample time to repeat the entire process twice.

Sure these are just assumptions, but I've been here for the various PL version updates and it has never taken this long. So my best guess is, there was something wrong with PL from Apple's testing and STS had to fix it. That's the only reason I can guess why it would take an extra week (plus) after coming up in the waiting line.

[squishyoreos]

Its possible but we will never know I imagine.

[Snakespeare]

They used to tell us almost everything, but it turned out that we LOVE to debate utterly irrelevant things ad nauseum, and especially we like to second-guess every decision. So, if it's transparent, they just don't tell us any more. So I think, if it got rejected, we wouldn't be told. There's nothing we can do anyway, except howl, and that gets tiresome.

Also, just because it worked on Android for the beta testers (which took an extra two weeks to make that happen, don't you remember), doesn't mean it will work on iOS.

I hope they get it fixed, and soon. But I am glad it's being tested and that it will be fully operational when they do finally release it.

Anyways, don't want to to belabor the point, so I'll post on some other thread now. :)

[Silentarrow]

Samhayne told us yesterday that Star Legends has not been rejected and
Sorry, nothing specific to discuss. In car talk, it's all "under the hood.".

[Snakespeare]

Yeah, that's true... but...

He said the approval was not denied. There's a difference. It would only get denied if it were one of the stupid, useless apps that are submitted daily. I am sure that Apple wants STS to fix some things. But STS is under no onus to explain any of that to us. Apple would only deny approval if STS refused to make the changes they want, which I highly doubt.

[Arguntom]

This was the scene outside of apples main headquarters today. An angry mob of spacetime fans were causing a scene of chaos. With the much anticipated star legends full release looming the fans couldn't contain themselves any longer.

http://tapatalk.com/mu/5284f8da-f1a6-0f6b.jpg

Sent from my GT540 using Tapatalk

The pic is poorly made, but I think this might be my new background. O:-)

[thugimmortal]

The pic is poorly made, but I think this might be my new background. O:-)

Lol it only took about a minute to do but it was just for a laugh

Sent from my GT540 using Tapatalk

[DRONE769]

The heist.is tonight

[Tigerwolf127]

I cant wait untill it releases it will be a very good game from the looks of it

[CanonicalKoi]

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll81/Moorit/patience.jpg

[Mega pwner]

Apple does not release apps by themselves they release apps in bunches of 20 to 30 apps at a time so it wouldn't matter if blackstar was first in line or 15th in line to be tested it's gonna take long either way

[Mkcecil]

Apple does not release apps by themselves they release apps in bunches of 20 to 30 apps at a time so it wouldn't matter if blackstar was first in line or 15th in line to be tested it's gonna take long either way

Ohh so it's not 2 weeks more like 4-6 weeks...if u think about it. Good news is we are on the 3rd week only 3 more maybe :)

[squishyoreos]

That's good news?

[DRONE769]

Canon you should uhh go out to dinner or something.... and uhh not be suspicious about pranks or anything....

[squishyoreos]

Sounds totally harmless to me!

[Mkcecil]

That's good news?

Well for all we know it could take a month, even a year for it to come out...if that was the case I'd cry!

[CanonicalKoi]

Canon you should uhh go out to dinner or something.... and uhh not be suspicious about pranks or anything....

The Bunny sees all, tells most and what he doesn't tell, he uses as blackmail material. You have been warned.

[Tvis]

The Bunny sees all, tells most and what he doesn't tell, he uses as blackmail material. You have been warned.

http://blogs.woodtv.com/files/2008/11/youve-been-warned-movie-clapboard.jpg

[DRONE769]

200th post

[apocketlegend]

It's been a week... Going on second week...

[Kinf]

I find it difficult to understand how in a business relationship between two corporate entities, there can be no communication. At the very least, by now, there should be a response from Apple one way or another regarding the status of an application that has been submitted. In business, a lack of communication of this nature would instigate negative response from the applicant, more than likely resulting in lowered profit. Every hour a product is held up, especialy without communication, is profit the applicant is throwing out the window. Bottom line:Consumers are the life blood of a business. If said business cannot provide a product, it has no consumers, therefore no profit.
If there has been response (which at this point I cannot honestly imagine NO communication has been passed between two entities that exist for profit) why has that information not been passed on to potential consumers? One can only speculate. The very idea that there was no communication with apple to prepare for submission, or that there has been no information passed since is ludicrous.

[Fiddycent]

Kinf I totally agree with you... They probably jus don't want to tell us it's going to be another week because sts knows everyone will be more pissed then just saying we haven't herd anything

[Mkcecil]

Kinf I totally agree with you... They probably jus don't want to tell us it's going to be another week because sts knows everyone will be more pissed then just saying we haven't herd anything

Isn't that called lying? When you tell someone something different than what the truth is, rather hear the truth than find out they were hiding it :/ just saying.

[CanonicalKoi]

Kinf, where does it say there's been no communication between STS and Apple? Sam titled the post announcing that it was in the approval process as, "...Working with Apple" which, to me, implies they have a dialog going. As far as the Devs not commenting, well, what would you like them to say? Even if they were inclined to get into the nuts-and-bolts of what's needing to be fixed or changed, I'd venture to guess 97.8% of the people here would have no clue what they were talking about. Even for the clueful few, that doesn't tell you how long it'll take, code being the wonderful, intertwined entity that it is.

I work doing free-lance coding. I assure you that even though I'm a "for-profit" entitiy working for other "for-profit" entities, I am rarely able to give an exact amount of time a change, especially major change(s), is going to take. I also never communicate what exactly needs to be done to the person who's paying me money for three reasons: 1) that's time I could be using to find and fix the problem or to implement a change; 2) they ain't going to understand it anyway and 3) because of that fatal accident where a marketing droid fell asleep listening to the details (I was trying to explain the concept of polymorphism--really, it was riveting stuff!), fell forward and impaled himself on the contents of his pencil-holder.

[Tvis]

Apple doesn't even tell their business partners how long the process will take, so how would STS know? The more complex apps take longer, which I found out by googling. I would call this a complex app. Let the process run its course.

[Kinf]

for starters you say "working with apple" which to you, implies dialog. This would mean information of some type, yes? The Devs not commenting, what would I like them to say? How about something like: "At this point things are proceeding apace, things are at THIS stage." or "There have been complications with the program's hyperdrive motivator subroutine, and there will be a delay until we can track down the saboteur."
1)It would realy take you THAT long to write a response to a customer explaining a situation that it would cut that much into your development cycle? (scary thought)
2)this statement assumes ALL of your customers are idiots without the least shred of common logic. (admittedly that could be the case, anyone whose seen some of EA's latest money making ideas knows what I'm talking about)
3)what was a droid doing with a pencil holder? you KNOW thats against regs. they are only allowed blunt styluses, and any violation like this should have been reported to the proper authorities immediatly

[CanonicalKoi]

To answer 1) Yes, yes it would. Understand that most of the people that I work for find the technology of, say, a toaster challenging. I explain *insert technical jargon here*. This is followed by emails/phone calls 1 thru 457 asking what each individual thing means, how it affects their project, what is it doing in their project, they heard about this Visual Basic thing and...sigh. I spent 20 minutes on the phone with a client the other day explaining what an email attachment was, how to find it and how to open it. This was someone in Marketing, whose life basically runs by email. Multiply that by, well, a *lot* and it really does tend to cut into your work-day. Which is why most of my finest compositions occur at about 2am. No interruptions. :D

In re 2) Not idiots, it's just something they have no background in. Mentally, I refer to a fair few of my clientele as "techo-peasants", but that's just venting; there is no requirement to understand in order to use. Look, if you asked me exactly how my HD TV works? No clue. I don't *need* to know. People don't have to know how games are put together or how to code in order to play them. At least, not for a few years now. ;) And let's face, we gamers are special--look how many people are still waiting for Diablo III (first announced in development in 2001).

Regards 3) Marketers are known to be soul-less, hence "droids". Doesn't make 'em the mechanical-type, though. ;) Pity....Asimov's Laws would then apply.

[swordlover]

Im a beta tester and I have a question for the revs will all my stuff get erased when game launches because I put over a 100 dollars of plat on here and lead a guild that is awesome will all that get erased

[Tvis]

Im a beta tester and I have a question for the revs will all my stuff get erased when game launches because I put over a 100 dollars of plat on here and lead a guild that is awesome will all that get erased

Almost everything will get to stay. The only thing that will be changed is the leaderboard.

[xero]

@kinf

The whole "were currently working with apple on the approval process..." comment sam posted doesn't mean that they are or aren't communicating with apple... its all in how you look at it. As for why the devs wont tell us what is or isn't being said, its on a strict need-to-know basis.

So, PLEASE QUIT FLAMING OTHER POSTERS... it does all of us no good to get mad because no information is being relayed to us from sts...

So take a chill pill and wait it out... I'm just as anxious as you and the other sts forum members to get my hands on sl...

Remember this quote: "Anything worth doing, is worth doing RIGHT."

[Matutd]

Hey guys no need to start arguing the game is gonna come out just wait for it :)
:banana: <--- I love that guy

[Tvis]

http://www.digitalsportscene.com/gallery/d/749-1/calm-down.jpg

[Fiddycent]

Isn't that called lying? When you tell someone something different than what the truth is, rather hear the truth than find out they were hiding it :/ just saying.


Yeah it is... Is it impossible to believe they would? It's crazy what some people will say and do to not get b^*ched at

[swordlover]

What do u mean almost everything

[Rare]

I find it difficult to understand how in a business relationship between two corporate entities, there can be no communication. At the very least, by now, there should be a response from Apple one way or another regarding the status of an application that has been submitted. In business, a lack of communication of this nature would instigate negative response from the applicant, more than likely resulting in lowered profit. ...

Normally that would be true. But this is Apple you're talking about. They hold all the cards.

I mean, look at how Steve Jobs responded to antenna-gate.

ATL

[Rare]

for starters you say "working with apple" which to you, implies dialog. This would mean information of some type, yes? The Devs not commenting, what would I like them to say? How about something like: "At this point things are proceeding apace, things are at THIS stage."

Come on... seriously? Have you dealt with any other high tech industry? The consumers are the last one to know about things other than rumors. Its common place that people keep things close to their chest. Especially when you're dealing with a third party, you don't give specific dates for things because you look bad if the other party doesn't come through. I'm not saying this is what STS is doing. It wouldn't surprise me or upset me if they were though.

ATL.

[squishyoreos]

http://www.digitalsportscene.com/gallery/d/749-1/calm-down.jpg

This

[Magicfrost]

dont get your hopes up this could take 1-2 more months

[Sanityreaper]

Yeah but if apple rejects it I dont think sts would make us wait any longer but honestly im sure that if things keep going the way they are with apple they will release it to us first because I dont think they relize how much money they are losing on all the plat sales plus extra content ect but if it dosnt come out this next week i personaly wont even wait anymore lose hope in sts and just look at star legends as another diablo III because this is just rediculous they could atleast open up the beta to all android users regaurdless if verizon or not and I have seen about five comments over all from apple users on here and on the face book page so the majority fan base is android im guessing .and im pretty let down about this whole situation and it dosnt look like the games gona be out before my sons born but them losing one fan wont matter but thanks for reading :) hope u have a good launch sts when ever that happens anyways

[Tvis]

Yeah but if apple rejects it I dont think sts would make us wait any longer but honestly im sure that if things keep going the way they are with apple they will release it to us first because I dont think they relize how much money they are losing on all the plat sales plus extra content ect but if it dosnt come out this next week i personaly wont even wait anymore lose hope in sts and just look at star legends as another diablo III because this is just rediculous they could atleast open up the beta to all android users regaurdless if verizon or not and I have seen about five comments over all from apple users on here and on the face book page so the majority fan base is android im guessing .and im pretty let down about this whole situation and it dosnt look like the games gona be out before my sons born but them losing one fan wont matter but thanks for reading :) hope u have a good launch sts when ever that happens anyways

I wouldn't give up hope yet. Apple is being slow or picky. Possibly next week. Apple users were the first ones to be able to play the game and help carve out the foundation of PL. We ask that you guys try to be as patient as possible (we're trying too) and wait for this game. The game is being perfected.

[Snakespeare]

Wow... some perspective, man! There are countries on the brink of economic disaster, and a video game company is bumming us out because the release didn't happen when OTHER PEOPLE (not the game company) predicted? Really?

It's just a game. We'll get it and hit level cap so fast it will be like a blur. 20 levels in a week, at most. Then what we will do, hurry up and wait again? There are seriously thousands of video games out there. Myself, I've mostly been racing with Real Racing 2 HD. But if you need some adventure to pass a week or two of time, try Aralon: Sword and Shadow. It's an RPG, but it is very well written.

But don't give up on STS because the game isn't out. Besides, I don't believe that kind of talk. Can you really see someone NOT getting the game when it finally comes out just because it took longer than expected? Such a person would be depriving himself of fun, and nobody else would even notice. Nah, I don't buy that.

Apple clearly wanted some things changed, and STS is working with them. But they won't tell us what, and maybe it's not our business anyway. So all we have from Sam is that it's all under the hood, nothing to discuss.

Furthermore, just 'cause something works on Android in Beta doesn't mean it works on iOS. So whatever is under the hood, I'd look there first. And I wouldn't play the blame game. Why does everyone assume this is Apple just dragging their heels? STS writes the code on PCs then ports it to Android and iOS. All it takes is a few typos to break a program.

I agree with Tvis. The result of all this Quality Assurance will be... umm... QUALITY! :)

[DRONE769]

Banana

[DRONE769]

:banana:

[Fiddycent]

Yeah it really really sux we have to wait... but I will. I'm not going to ditch a game that is going to be super sweet jus cause it's taking longer then expected. If that was the case I wouldn't play star wars the old republic then either ;)

[agirlyboy]

I have an iPhone patiently waiting for this game to release I kno many people are gettin all upset but hey jus realize life is here so live it when this game hits we will all appreciate it an have tons of people to play with that is the uplifting part about it all be Positive. Keep telling people about the game I got a feelin it's gonna drop in the matter of a short period of time from this point jus check everyday but don't get ya hopes up they definitely are making it compatible to the iPhone before releasing it.

[sirenzz]

Ok i shouldnd hve posted link my bad

[Tvis]

Sam why u delete my post ? Is it to keep a riot from breaking out? All i said is xda developers posted star legends beta for dwnload . It was only for android and you have to have Gingerbread update.

Obviously, the beta posted there isn't in accordance with STS and they don't want the word going around about this unreal copy. Posting another post about a previously deleted post should be against the Forum Rules. I advise you to delete this quoted post.

[XxBlackNightXx]

I cant wait! Until then, Add Blacknightxx (Lvl 31) on PL!!!!!!

[XxBlackNightXx]

:banana:

[Fiddycent]

Ok so it's Monday again and still no SL..... So can you plz give us some idea of when we might expect SL space time?????????

[Acyer]

Ok so it's Monday again and still no SL..... So can you plz give us some idea of when we might expect SL space time?????????easy cheesy . The devs just waking up from a long weekend. If the game is released today don't look for it till after lunchtime.

[themars]

Haha, im so excited!!! I hope the release will be today. But i have waited already so long that i can wait one week more.

The release is as farming sewer pinks it will be there when you least expect it.

[JemNI]

If it's not up yet, then the song remains the same. We wait another day. Hopefully it will be this week.

[apoceq]

tap tap tap..

[nazgulking]

I don't think it will come out anytime soon. Time to go back to PL...

[Leinadius]

It would be nice if it came today... but it might or might not happen :/

[Notorious Legend]

I love how these ignorant people go and put their false hope into a random date that someone says it will hopefully release, and when it doesn't, they backlash.
Listen people, what makes you think the game will come out today, Monday, when they don't work on it all weekend?
Again, giving yourself false hope and you, yourself, the ignorant gamer, got yourself mad. Don't take it out on the devs! If it weren't for them even making this game, you wouldn't have anything to even get excited about! Put yourself in their shoes, all the pressure they are under to release the game itself on top of the baggering they are getting from their own impatient fans, they are doing this for YOUU. Besides all the negative things you have to say now, won't be there when all the waiting paid off and you have a big ol grin(pudding face from snack pack commercial) on your face. Patience is a virtue people

[Tvis]

I love how these ignorant people go and put their false hope into a random date that someone says it will hopefully release, and when it doesn't, they backlash.
Listen people, what makes you think the game will come out today, Monday, when they don't work on it all weekend?
Again, giving yourself false hope and you, yourself, the ignorant gamer, got yourself mad. Don't take it out on the devs! If it weren't for them even making this game, you wouldn't have anything to even get excited about! Put yourself in their shoes, all the pressure they are under to release the game itself on top of the baggering they are getting from their own impatient fans, they are doing this for YOUU. Besides all the negative things you have to say now, won't be there when all the waiting paid off and you have a big ol grin(pudding face from snack pack commercial) on your face. Patience is a virtue people

Really, there aren't that many people angry at the devs. A few think it's the devs fault, but most realize that it's in Apple's hands.

[Leinadius]

Blame Apple! Haha jk they have to work just as hard as anyone else. Unless they sitting around eating and watching tv on there iPads... we will never know...

[★★★]

I can't wait for this game to come out! It is going to be awesome!

[Etanwa]

If Apple rejects the game I say :A: go ahead and release it to the other channels. Maybe the thousands of cimplaints will raise the gamed approval on Apples priority list. Or :B: wait for approval and everybody goes on whining and complaining being impatiant and stupid like we have been for weeks now. I suspect option "B"

[Silentarrow]

I doubt Apple will reject the game, currently they are finding minor flaws and reporting them to STS.

[Snakespeare]

Really, there aren't that many people angry at the devs. A few think it's the devs fault, but most realize that it's in Apple's hands.

Tvis, I'm not saying "it's the devs' fault". What I'm saying is, we do not have the information to say that it's Apple's fault. And the ones who assume it's Apple's fault aren't necessarily right. I would be inclined to blame the big corporation for being hard-assed, too, but that would involve me giving way to my prejudice against big corporations.

I think if you want to sell your bread in the big grocery store, you have to demonstrate that your bread is different in some way from all the bread they already sell. It's the burden of sales to convince them that it will be profitable. What does Apple gain from a free app? People can DL it from Apple, buy plat from Amazon, and all Apple did was spend a lot of time testing it and going back and forth, maybe worried about too much blood splatters or something.

When STS started with them, we could only buy plat from the App Store. New maps cost plat. I spent about $75 through the App Store to play Pocket Legends. I will get Star Legends for free. I can get plat from Tapjoy. I'm not sure Apple is convinced that there is any money in this deal for them.

BUT I'M JUST GUESSING... don't panic on my guessing, LOL!

[CanonicalKoi]

No panic here. :D Apple must be seeing some sort of return from free apps since they're the largest percentage of apps available (39.08% of all Apple store apps are free). The next-largest group is the 99 centers at 27.98%. I don't think the delay is being caused by any concern over the app's price. Meh...much like any other labor, the game'll be born when it's ready. ;)

[Leinadius]

The game shall be born anytime soon! Just get some snacks and some patience and she will arise!

[clonefoursix]

Hey look at it this way, I'd your a Swtor fan, this is a walk in the park! Don't worry it'll be out soon, but Swtor fans (I'm one if em ;) ) know how u feel

[Tvis]

Tvis, I'm not saying "it's the devs' fault". What I'm saying is, we do not have the information to say that it's Apple's fault. And the ones who assume it's Apple's fault aren't necessarily right. I would be inclined to blame the big corporation for being hard-assed, too, but that would involve me giving way to my prejudice against big corporations.

I think if you want to sell your bread in the big grocery store, you have to demonstrate that your bread is different in some way from all the bread they already sell. It's the burden of sales to convince them that it will be profitable. What does Apple gain from a free app? People can DL it from Apple, buy plat from Amazon, and all Apple did was spend a lot of time testing it and going back and forth, maybe worried about too much blood splatters or something.

When STS started with them, we could only buy plat from the App Store. New maps cost plat. I spent about $75 through the App Store to play Pocket Legends. I will get Star Legends for free. I can get plat from Tapjoy. I'm not sure Apple is convinced that there is any money in this deal for them.

BUT I'M JUST GUESSING... don't panic on my guessing, LOL!

Right, it was more of a factual statement than an accusation. This whole thing is more of a setback than a real problem.

[mjshockley]

Why can't us android users have a sample??