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Mr.Wallace
07-20-2011, 06:53 AM
My Commando has reached level 20, I have the gear I want, time for numbers! Thanks to WhoIsThis for pointing me in that direction and thanks to MrsBerry for helping me farm lots of the gear!

Armor

First I compared three different sets. They are not really sets, but combinations of items with similar names :). There is no set bonus in SL yet.
I used the same weapon with all sets to focus on the other gear.

Set 1:
Veteranís Ironite Helmet
Veteranís Ironite Chest
Veteranís Ironite Shoulders
Veteranís Ironite Boots
Veteranís Ironite Armguards
Veteranís Beta and Beyond Sniper Rifle
Mega-Muscle Stat Amplifier

This is the set for a commando with an own credit card. All items are bought for platinum. And also, in my opinion, it's the best looking set. :D

Set 2:
Modified Mark IV DuraSteel Helmet
Mark IV DuraSteel Plate
Iridium Cover
Modified Mark IV DuraSteel Boots
Modified Mark IV DuraSteel Arms
Veteranís Beta and Beyond Sniper Rifle
Mega-Muscle Stat Amplifier

This is the trash drop set. DuraSteel items are very common. As far as I know there is no DuraSteel back armor, so I used the Iridium Cover which is a quest reward.

Set 3:
Iridium Helmet
Iridium Plate
Iridium Cover
Iridium Stompers
Veteranís Ironite Armguards
Veteranís Beta and Beyond Sniper Rifle
Mega-Muscle Stat Amplifier

This seems to be the best set that drops at the moment. But I never have seen Iridium arm armor yet - so I used the ones from set 1.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6007/5957107285_6c352235c3.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/61613079@N07/5957107285/)

So I'd say, there is no need to spend a lot of platinum for a full Veteran's set. Only the significantly higher health and mana are real advantages. And the looks, of course :). So if you don't want to spend much platinum and are willing to use stimpack earlier, start with DuraSteel gear and replace items with Iridium drops and a few Veteran's for health and mana.
The differences in skill damage are pretty small, I wouldn't make a set decision based on that.


Weapon

In the next step I wanted to compare some weapons. I used all four weapons with set 3 to make them better comparable.

The Weapons:
Veteran's Beta and Beyond Sniper Rifle, 0.8 speed, from platinum store
Rumble, 0.9 speed, boss drop
Veteran's Pirate Cannon, 0.7 speed, from platinum store
The Foreman, 0.7 speed, boss drop

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6141/5957689948_fc4bdc98cb.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/61613079@N07/5957689948/)

If you have 5 platinum to spend, buy the Beta and Beyond Rifle. It looks good and seems to have the best stats for now. Pirate's cannon though is seriously overpriced. I was a bit disappointed by the Rumble, because most of the commandos I talked with assumed that the best weapon.

So my advise: if you don't care about a perfect set look and are willing to spend some platinum, combine Iridium gear with two Veteran's armor items and a Beta and Beyond Rifle. This should be a nicely balanced set. :)

Derajdefyre
07-20-2011, 10:36 AM
Is Rumble a heavy weapon? If so, the reason the dps is low is because each attack is area of effect.

Horsethe
07-20-2011, 09:16 PM
Nice work Mr.Wallace! Been interested in a comparison like this. I currently have most of the Iridium stuff equipped, I have everything but the sleeves also. Seems like they don't drop in the beta or are rare. Also, my chest armour is the Battlemarked Breastplate. I have Iridum also, but I'm not sure which is better overall.


Is Rumble a heavy weapon? If so, the reason the dps is low is because each attack is area of effect.

Heavy weapons have an AoE attack? I did not know this... Where did you find/hear about this? Makes me want to equip them now hehe.

Otukura
07-20-2011, 09:20 PM
Heavy weapons have an AoE attack? I did not know this... Where did you find/hear about this? Makes me want to equip them now hehe.

Can't find a source right now, but the commando only heavy weapons do AOE.

Horsethe
07-20-2011, 09:24 PM
Can't find a source right now, but the commando only heavy weapons do AOE.

Good to know! I'm gonna try rumble now. :) Any idea what the other class specific weapons do?


EDIT: I can be your source hehe. It does do AoE! :D

Mr.Wallace
07-20-2011, 11:23 PM
EDIT: I can be your source hehe. It does do AoE! :D

Hehe tried too, suddenly, Rumble is not so bad! :) Although unfortunately the Veteran's Hendly SAW is superior to Rumble, which has only the added Str as an advantage. So here again, paying 5 platinum beats farming...
But with the AOE info I now use a heavy weapon for mob clearing and a rifle for boss, loadout stress already. :)


Also, my chest armour is the Battlemarked Breastplate. I have Iridum also, but I'm not sure which is better overall.

Thanks to Romgar I have a Battlemarked Breastplate too - it seems to be the better choice than Iridium. You get more health and mana, and only sacrifice 1 hit. No wonder they are so expensive in the auction house.

Horsethe
07-21-2011, 01:13 AM
Hehe tried too, suddenly, Rumble is not so bad! :) Although unfortunately the Veteran's Hendly SAW is superior to Rumble, which has only the added Str as an advantage. So here again, paying 5 platinum beats farming...
But with the AOE info I now use a heavy weapon for mob clearing and a rifle for boss, loadout stress already. :)



Thanks to Romgar I have a Battlemarked Breastplate too - it seems to be the better choice than Iridium. You get more health and mana, and only sacrifice 1 hit. No wonder they are so expensive in the auction house.

I spent platinum on the sleeves and the implant, I've already crafted the TK2 X-ARC Cannon for lvl 21 if I get there. Prob won't pay platinum for anything else until I see what's in the full release. The reality is there isn't really any need to spend on gear atm as the difference is fairly small.

Mr.Wallace
07-21-2011, 03:28 AM
Obviously there are "Cycorp power arms" to (visually) complete the iridium set. Haven't seen them myself yet, if anyone sells them, let me know. :)

I'm sure in two weeks we will laugh about once having discussed which green gear is better :D. But maybe there will be a revival - level 21 beta gear twinks!

WhoIsThis
07-21-2011, 12:12 PM
@Wallace

Iridium arms at this point don't exist. Nobody has ever seen any iridium arms ever being dropped (and there aren't any commandos wearing them). It might be a bug, in which case an issue may need to be raised.

Register
07-21-2011, 01:33 PM
haha TY WALLACE. I now know what gear to use ^^

Beanmachine
07-24-2011, 08:24 PM
Can you post some pics of the gear plz? I'm really curious of how they look:rolleyes:

KingGiant
07-25-2011, 08:21 PM
Rumble is the best because of the aoe damage. Giving you are a good comm and know how to bunch your enemies together.

Horsethe
07-26-2011, 12:56 AM
Rumble is the best because of the aoe damage. Giving you are a good comm and know how to bunch your enemies together.

Agreed, although I sold my rumble and went for the crafted lvl 21 Commando weapon. The extra dodge was too good to turn down.

themars
07-31-2011, 08:39 AM
Obviously there are "Cycorp power arms" to (visually) complete the iridium set. Haven't seen them myself yet, if anyone sells them, let me know. :)

I'm sure in two weeks we will laugh about once having discussed which green gear is better :D. But maybe there will be a revival - level 21 beta gear twinks!

I got them if u want them Pls pm me game. I want to give them free.

themars
07-31-2011, 08:41 AM
Can't find a source right now, but the commando only heavy weapons do AOE.

Good to know! I'm gonna try rumble now. :) Any idea what the other class specific weapons do?


EDIT: I can be your source hehe. It does do AoE! :D

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apocketlegend
08-02-2011, 08:45 PM
I decided to go Comando my first SL char, any tips?

mbucek
08-03-2011, 04:42 PM
what about the overtime gun whats your thoughts on that to rumble

Jupitaloo
09-15-2011, 12:59 PM
What gives the extra 1 health regen in set 3?

Jupitaloo
09-17-2011, 12:42 PM
What's your ign for SL?

Elf-Orc-Naga
09-24-2011, 10:11 PM
Omg mr w! Wb! Pls introduce yourself if its ok for u since im using same ign players hehehe :)

Ellyidol
09-24-2011, 10:12 PM
Omg mr w! Wb! Pls introduce yourself if its ok for u since im using same ign players hehehe :)

Unfortunately, he made this before he left.