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intizamfamily888
05-30-2016, 02:07 PM
Please nerf the banish skill from cryostar at ~15% hp. It's just too overpowered and it's nearly unpossible to survive as a mage(i have 5.2k hp)

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Lethoiun
05-30-2016, 02:17 PM
I survived with a nub mage with 3.3k hp so ya...
Just spam pots and you'll be fine

intizamfamily888
05-30-2016, 03:44 PM
I survived with a nub mage with 3.3k hp so ya...
Just spam pots and you'll be fine
Idk why but i can't reach with spamming pots. And im talking about the elite map

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Rome
05-31-2016, 05:37 AM
Please nerf the banish skill from cryostar at ~15% hp. It's just too overpowered and it's nearly unpossible to survive as a mage(i have 5.2k hp)

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the elite version needs to been scaled down a bit. its duration is actually fine. but the lightning at the end is not funny. even a tank with 9k hp won't survive.
theres only 1 way to actually kill this boss. Hope the one who dies first use 5 ankh buff.

so jeah a small nerf on the lightning is indeed needed here!

-amborion

Carapace
05-31-2016, 04:53 PM
Thanks for the feedback, at the moment we're going to give the Cryostar boss a little more time to breathe before we make any hasty changes to the mechanics just yet.

Ipoopsy
05-31-2016, 05:26 PM
the elite version needs to been scaled down a bit. its duration is actually fine. but the lightning at the end is not funny. even a tank with 9k hp won't survive.
theres only 1 way to actually kill this boss. Hope the one who dies first use 5 ankh buff.

so jeah a small nerf on the lightning is indeed needed here!

-amborion

It is actually fine, i survive with less than 9k hps.

Melthyz
05-31-2016, 05:58 PM
the elite version needs to been scaled down a bit. its duration is actually fine. but the lightning at the end is not funny. even a tank with 9k hp won't survive.
theres only 1 way to actually kill this boss. Hope the one who dies first use 5 ankh buff.

so jeah a small nerf on the lightning is indeed needed here!

-amborion

It is actually fine, i survive with less than 9k hps.

That's awesome but the squishy classes dun have close to 9k HP. I've seen many many boss resets unless u do revenge buff.

Snoobcat
05-31-2016, 11:17 PM
Close to impossible without using the 5 ankhs revive or a full team with at least antignome full set. Whats funny is that during my last PUG run in that map, my rogue was the last one standing while everyone died including the warrior. I just stay away from the boss till some one dies and use the revenge buff lol.

bonjovi3223
05-31-2016, 11:29 PM
Close to impossible without using the 5 ankhs revive or a full team with at least antignome full set. Whats funny is that during my last PUG run in that map, my rogue was the last one standing while everyone died including the warrior. I just stay away from the boss till some one dies and use the revenge buff lol.
Do you know what a leech means? Some ppl use the word parasite.

Runel Joseph Ruiz
05-31-2016, 11:30 PM
rofl wasted 150 ankhs just to kill that elite boss. 15% hp below 1 hit almost anyone lol unless u use 5 ankhs if one of u survives hahahaha

Snoobcat
06-01-2016, 12:27 AM
Do you know what a leech means? Some ppl use the word parasite.

Im not stupid lol. I've failed killing elite cryostar many times and that always happens during that hp threshold banish attack wiping out everyone, therefore restting the boss. So i decided to use my brain a little and avoid falling into the same hole twice(or 5 times) and try to stay alive as much as i can. And my strategy proved to be successful the first time i used it. So are u telling me that jumping into the fight and die and reset the boss is a better strategy? LMAO

Jay Gatsby
06-01-2016, 12:39 AM
the elite version needs to been scaled down a bit. its duration is actually fine. but the lightning at the end is not funny. even a tank with 9k hp won't survive.
theres only 1 way to actually kill this boss. Hope the one who dies first use 5 ankh buff.

so jeah a small nerf on the lightning is indeed needed here!

-amborion

You need this

151790

Rome
06-01-2016, 01:24 AM
Thanks for the feedback, at the moment we're going to give the Cryostar boss a little more time to breathe before we make any hasty changes to the mechanics just yet.

We only mentioning the Elite version of the Cryostar Carapace. If u are online i would love to run it with u so u can see it for urself. My ign: Tuif !
Im one of the few who have the privilege and honor to run Ardbeg and avaree. they are both very skilled players and yet it is to hard to kill the Elite crystar boss. ( unless we use the ankh buff )
So I'm not saying u need to scale down the entire boss. Im only talking about the Lightning strikes when it's HP is lower then 10%.

Thanks again for reading!

-amborion

intizamfamily888
06-01-2016, 02:48 AM
We only mentioning the Elite version of the Cryostar Carapace. If u are online i would love to run it with u so u can see it for urself. My ign: Tuif !
Im one of the few who have the privilege and honor to run Ardbeg and avaree. they are both very skilled players and yet it is to hard to kill the Elite crystar boss. ( unless we use the ankh buff )
So I'm not saying u need to scale down the entire boss. Im only talking about the Lightning strikes when it's HP is lower then 10%.

Thanks again for reading!

-amborion
Same here i just want a slightly little damage nerf on that lightning strikes:)
All in all the challenge is fine(except these lightning where dont have any change)

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Kharjojo
06-01-2016, 08:25 AM
Im not stupid lol. I've failed killing elite cryostar many times and that always happens during that hp threshold banish attack wiping out everyone, therefore restting the boss. So i decided to use my brain a little and avoid falling into the same hole twice(or 5 times) and try to stay alive as much as i can. And my strategy proved to be successful the first time i used it. So are u telling me that jumping into the fight and die and reset the boss is a better strategy? LMAO

No offence.. are u telling stay away from the fight waiting for another player to die and use the 5 ankhs isn't leeching?

Snoobcat
06-01-2016, 10:08 AM
No offence.. are u telling stay away from the fight waiting for another player to die and use the 5 ankhs isn't leeching?

Sigh.. Do i need to repeat myself? If i jump into the fight, ill die. No question since im a rogue. Even the tank in my team with 9k hp and 3,9k armor go from 100-0 in less than five seconds. Do i need to tell u that i've tried 3+ times fighting cryostar while the boss is at 15% hp and all resulted in the boss getting reset. Everytime. Should i quote Einstein about the definition of insanity? Insanity is doing the exact same thing over and over again expecting a different result. That is insane. Do i need to tell u that i was doing PUG run at that time and they rarely listen? Whatevs. If u're in my situation you'll probably doing the same thing i was doing. Unless of course if u're insane or just straight up dumb.

Also i dont consider my action to be called "leeching". Leeching is when someone is doing absolutely nothing while still getting all the rewards. I was there fighting cryostar from 100% hp. Im also the only one who actively use my arc dagger to stun the mobs, the other rogue using arc dagger is a noob and is using bow skill the whole time. How can u say that as leeching?

intizamfamily888
06-01-2016, 03:37 PM
Sigh.. Do i need to repeat myself? If i jump into the fight, ill die. No question since im a rogue. Even the tank in my team with 9k hp and 3,9k armor go from 100-0 in less than five seconds. Do i need to tell u that i've tried 3+ times fighting cryostar while the boss is at 15% hp and all resulted in the boss getting reset. Everytime. Should i quote Einstein about the definition of insanity? Insanity is doing the exact same thing over and over again expecting a different result. That is insane. Do i need to tell u that i was doing PUG run at that time and they rarely listen? Whatevs. If u're in my situation you'll probably doing the same thing i was doing. Unless of course if u're insane or just straight up dumb.

Also i dont consider my action to be called "leeching". Leeching is when someone is doing absolutely nothing while still getting all the rewards. I was there fighting cryostar from 100% hp. Im also the only one who actively use my arc dagger to stun the mobs, the other rogue using arc dagger is a noob and is using bow skill the whole time. How can u say that as leeching?
Pls keep your posts friendly... We are disgussing here and not insulting each other

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Fyrce
06-01-2016, 07:07 PM
I dont mind the lightning if there is something to be done about it. But I touched flowers, got shield up, and it still kills, so as far as I can tell there is no save except the revenge revive.

Zylum
06-01-2016, 08:17 PM
Thanks for the feedback, at the moment we're going to give the Cryostar boss a little more time to breathe before we make any hasty changes to the mechanics just yet.

With all do respect have you or anyone that works for sts ran this map? With out self buff? Meaning giving yourselves 50k health armor damage ect. I mean it's not possible for the average player. Only a good 10% no life pro players can actually run this efficiently. I'm sure I'm not the only player who agrees with this. I've been in a party with 3 warrior all with 9k+ Health, and the all die..1 shot dead. Me as a Mage= -1000000 chance too actually stay alive.

Binlaggin
06-01-2016, 08:27 PM
There is no skill if everyone dies and there's no way to avoid it. Just charge us 1 plat per run. It's the same thing

acewasabi
06-01-2016, 11:27 PM
Do you know what a leech means? Some ppl use the word parasite.

i think s/he means they only step back when boss hp is at 15%, not that they stay back the whole time :3

intizamfamily888
06-02-2016, 02:21 AM
i think s/he means they only step back when boss hp is at 15%, not that they stay back the whole time :3
There's actually no chance to avoid the lightning since you get right after you respawned

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Carapace
06-02-2016, 02:21 PM
It's a hard hitting ability, but it is designed this way on purpose.

The intention for this fight on a more casual level is to be wearing a number of anti-gnome set pieces, or banished power set pieces as this will greatly increase survivability and damage output. I'm honestly impressed that players are plowing through the Elite version using what is available to them, but it does become easier to manage in Elite mode with Anti-gnome and Banished Power sets.

intizamfamily888
06-03-2016, 01:34 AM
It's a hard hitting ability, but it is designed this way on purpose.

The intention for this fight on a more casual level is to be wearing a number of anti-gnome set pieces, or banished power set pieces as this will greatly increase survivability and damage output. I'm honestly impressed that players are plowing through the Elite version using what is available to them, but it does become easier to manage in Elite mode with Anti-gnome and Banished Power sets.
So we will be able to complete the antignome set in maybe 2 years if we farm hard for it....

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resurrected
06-03-2016, 01:40 AM
So we will be able to complete the antignome set in maybe 2 years if we farm hard for it....

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In 2 years cap will be 66 or 70[emoji14]

Rome
06-03-2016, 04:22 AM
It's a hard hitting ability, but it is designed this way on purpose.

The intention for this fight on a more casual level is to be wearing a number of anti-gnome set pieces, or banished power set pieces as this will greatly increase survivability and damage output. I'm honestly impressed that players are plowing through the Elite version using what is available to them, but it does become easier to manage in Elite mode with Anti-gnome and Banished Power sets.

i know its designed to be compensated when u have the antignome / banish set. But as many already stated, the drop rate is incredible low and its a big bummer for those who wanna run the elite version without the antignome / banish set. If we look at the current drop rate of the antignome set items, it wil take months, maybe years for regular players to achieve a full set. I love a challenge but this aint no challenge anymore. For me its looking for someone who actually sells the helm or belt because the drop rate is so soo sooooo low... This very fact needs to be encountered because its really discouraging ppl from getting the antignome / banish set! I even lost hope in finding a actual seller. That said please do something about this. Its been weeks now since the set has been release and there is actually 1 player in the entire game with the full set. (maybe 2) Or is it intended for players to actually get the set after lets say 4 more expansions? Im very happy u finally made the amulet trade able. that took me 3 weeks of complaining. im willing to add another 3 if needed. We do want gear progression Thats what the community clearly stated. But this aint no part of the Gear progression. As i already said its not funny to run a map over and over and over and over and over without looting anything. Or hitting the towns without even 1 single seller. Thats (i think) not only my opinion. But its the opinion of many many players!

-amborion

Avaree
06-03-2016, 06:05 AM
i know its designed to be compensated when u have the antignome / banish set. But as many already stated, the drop rate is incredible low and its a big bummer for those who wanna run the elite version without the antignome / banish set. If we look at the current drop rate of the antignome set items, it wil take months, maybe years for regular players to achieve a full set. I love a challenge but this aint no challenge anymore. For me its looking for someone who actually sells the helm or belt because the drop rate is so soo sooooo low... This very fact needs to be encountered because its really discouraging ppl from getting the antignome / banish set! I even lost hope in finding a actual seller. That said please do something about this. Its been weeks now since the set has been release and there is actually 1 player in the entire game with the full set. (maybe 2) Or is it intended for players to actually get the set after lets say 4 more expansions? Im very happy u finally made the amulet trade able. that took me 3 weeks of complaining. im willing to add another 3 if needed. We do want gear progression Thats what the community clearly stated. But this aint no part of the Gear progression. As i already said its not funny to run a map over and over and over and over and over without looting anything. Or hitting the towns without even 1 single seller. Thats (i think) not only my opinion. But its the opinion of many many players!

-amborion

:) I agree.

#discouraged#

ilhanna
06-03-2016, 07:38 AM
It's a hard hitting ability, but it is designed this way on purpose.

The intention for this fight on a more casual level is to be wearing a number of anti-gnome set pieces, or banished power set pieces as this will greatly increase survivability and damage output. I'm honestly impressed that players are plowing through the Elite version using what is available to them, but it does become easier to manage in Elite mode with Anti-gnome and Banished Power sets.

Are you saying you purposely designed elite Underhul to be unploughable unless we're decked in Antignome? Pieces of that set drops maybe once or twice a day. What were you thinking? And then you released this Cryostar event that includes elite version? Illogical much?

ilhanna
06-03-2016, 09:05 AM
check my vid all of us are not op player and we run elite maps but i can assure you, you can survive you just need a good team and a good strategy

Thanks. But I nailed Loose Gear less than 24 hour after elite Underhul was launched, and my team and I nailed Encrusted hours after the first Cryostar spawned, using on elite maps what we know from normal runs, like tapping flowers to cancel afflictions, and figuring out the best weapon and pet combos to bull through the waves of minions. We're not elite virgins and not scaredy cats either even without Antignome. I was just pointing out to Carapace that it is tantamount to deceit to make elite Underhul only logically and profitably plausible when you have Antignome, which hardly ever drops, when in previous expansions some universal end game gear was made available to make elite less onerous to farm.