Immortal Corruption Daggers vs. Immortal Corruption Bow Analysis

[Zeus]

So, after owning both, I've done some extensive testing with both and would like to help other players come to a conclusion with their weapons.

First of, the dagger has 136 more armor and about 100 more damage over the bow. However, the bow makes up for that with its extremely powerful auto attack. The attack hits at 200% damage, so it will hit very hard on mobs and boss. Essentially, it's like having a mini aimed shot always on tap. I've also noticed the bow procs more frequently when compared to the dagger's proc rate.

How to Effectively Use Creeping Death:
When your character procs creeping death, a green glow will appear over your head. This green glow will last some amount of time before disappearing. During this time, your basic attacks will do percent health damage. So, the best way to work this is charge auto attack and tap aim until the green glow wears off. If you do it correctly, each proc should result in more than 30% of boss HP taken off.

The dagger has a great heal proc & the damage reduction of the proc is 40-50% with it lasting for 6-7 seconds. The pulses do around 700 damage and whatever damage is done is given back as heal (3 pulses in total).

All in all, I prefer the bow. The reason being is as a rogue, we do our job best by focusing damage. This is best done with the bow. However, in times where I need a bit of extra survivability, I would switch to daggers.

[Visiting]

Which one should I beg for first? That's the real question.
On topic: Thanks for guide, though I notice that the bow proc wasn't mentioned all that besides that it procs more?

[Kriticality]

It's a new dawn. Dawn of the blue. Dawn of smurfs. Resistance is futile. Join the dark army. Delete the rogue. Come to the dark side.

#nerfrogue #nerfzeus #nerftwoxc


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[Zeus]

Which one should I beg for first? That's the real question.
On topic: Thanks for guide, though I notice that the bow proc wasn't mentioned all that besides that it procs more?


There's a whole section on how to use creeping death. ._.

[Visiting]

There's a whole section on how to use creeping death. ._.

I'm 90% sure that it wasn't there earlier .-.
Also, pls arc wep

[bonjovi3223]

It's a new dawn. Dawn of the blue. Dawn of smurfs. Resistance is futile. Join the dark army. Delete the rogue. Come to the dark side.

#nerfrogue #nerfzeus #nerftwoxc


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*starts chanting in voodoo lingo*

[Juvisavburst]

It was not what i was thinking. I thought the arcane bow will be god like in pvp and elites. But as far as i know. Zeus had a duel with mohoks just so mohoks can show uswhat arcane bow can do to op pvp tank, as there were lies spreading over as the arcane bow can break a warrior's jugg. But the result was 1-3. Mohoks won without using new arcane weapon for war. What can u think as per i think.. the bow is super op in guild clash as a rogue can just stand back letting wars go in and wait for proc. And again nekro sheild can make them even better. So bow is good but not the best. :) peace

[mathod]

here's what i think,
i have tried both on yesterday
Differences
+ +200 skill dmg on dagger
+dagger basic atack crits 1600 ish where as bow 3000 ( uncharged)
+dagger hits faster and multiple targets as intended bow is slower as other predecessors
+bow destroys big healt single targets elite bosses and stuff bc of %max healt) faster

In pvp rogue vs rogue dagger has advantage bc of basic atack dodge
clash dagger has advantage
vs warr bow has advantage

I am bow person and i like to use it but not on gear change in elite boss, i wanna use overall maps aswell
you can see the price of dagger almost doubling the bow bc of that

bow need serious tweeking in my opinion, single target hit on focused mob promise isnt getting delivered , weapon design only on hight healt Boss isnt gonna cut it. I would love to use bow on weak mobs aswell just like glint bow i dont care about survivability just give me the damage

Forgot to add: why on eath aimshot an arrow skill hits less with a bow? sts logic

Totally agree!
That's the bow, first arcane rarity bow, it's shoudnt have so low dmg, even compared with underhul leggendary 56lvl the dmg lower, it's just not serious. I understand maybe sts deliver all attention on proc but that's not fun at all

[mathod]

Also praying for productive comment from U our dear developers :), explain why this weapons go with this mechanic, means why so big diff on stats and proc, will be much thankfull and respective for this move

[Zeus]

It was not what i was thinking. I thought the arcane bow will be god like in pvp and elites. But as far as i know. Zeus had a duel with mohoks just so mohoks can show uswhat arcane bow can do to op pvp tank, as there were lies spreading over as the arcane bow can break a warrior's jugg. But the result was 1-3. Mohoks won without using new arcane weapon for war. What can u think as per i think.. the bow is super op in guild clash as a rogue can just stand back letting wars go in and wait for proc. And again nekro sheild can make them even better. So bow is good but not the best. :) peace

Are you kidding? I've won every fight against Mohoks. I won 3-1. He lost. Jesus, you need to screenshot everything these days.

[Kriticality]

Are you kidding? I've won every fight against Mohoks. I won 3-1. He lost. Jesus, you need to screenshot everything these days.

Send the tank to me!!

#buffsmurfs #bluestorm #darkside


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[Jazzi]

So, after owning both, I've done some extensive testing with both and would like to help other players come to a conclusion with their weapons.

First of, the dagger has 136 more armor and about 100 more damage over the bow. However, the bow makes up for that with its extremely powerful auto attack. The attack hits at 200% damage, so it will hit very hard on mobs and boss. Essentially, it's like having a mini aimed shot always on tap. I've also noticed the bow procs more frequently when compared to the dagger's proc rate.

How to Effectively Use Creeping Death:
When your character procs creeping death, a green glow will appear over your head. This green glow will last some amount of time before disappearing. During this time, your basic attacks will do percent health damage. So, the best way to work this is charge auto attack and tap aim until the green glow wears off. If you do it correctly, each proc should result in more than 30% of boss HP taken off.

The dagger has a great heal proc & the damage reduction of the proc is 40-50% with it lasting for 6-7 seconds. The pulses do around 700 damage and whatever damage is done is given back as heal (3 pulses in total).

All in all, I prefer the bow. The reason being is as a rogue, we do our job best by focusing damage. This is best done with the bow. However, in times where I need a bit of extra survivability, I would switch to daggers.

So is this review from a PvE or PvP perspective?

[Zeus]

So is this review from a PvE or PvP perspective?

Both. The bow is very effective on boss. If you can afford both, get both and swap. However if you can only choose one then choose the bow as you can use dragon slayer daggers to clear faster than the new daggers can.

[Jazzi]

Both. The bow is very effective on boss. If you can afford both, get both and swap. However if you can only choose one then choose the bow as you can use dragon slayer daggers to clear faster than the new daggers can.


Dont get me wrong im not trying to be against everything, but for my experience dagger 56 ones clears way faster than 46 one by following reasons

46 ones atacks are slower
56 ones skill damage basic atack damage and proc hits harder than 46

there is like 115 dmg difference between them its like using dragon hunter on elixir,

only advantage maybe will be CC you get from 46, but i believe tanks can protect us

Interesting. I guess it depends on the frequency of the proc. However I'd dare say that the 35% armour of the old arcane daggers might offset the difference in skill damage + plus we have the cc, which makes the elite Underhul maps somewhat playable. Well I will wait for more info. Thanks for your input though :)

[VISHNU (sparkstrom)]

Which has more skill dmg? Bow or daggers?

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[greekAL]

Which has more skill dmg? Bow or daggers?

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daggers have more skill damage!

[will0]

I went pve many times those lazy' rogues juat use speed set and bow shoot from far and damage is bow show how good to use a bow making people think they are putting effort....

[Jazzi]

difference is still significant, they didnt make inferior 56 arcane this time

edit: forgot to add they were zeuz and tickle were arguing with me about flameforged doing more dmg than drag hunter when its release, i was saying CC is more important

now compare flameforged and this one you decide

The flameforged mythic daggers are imho and in the opinion of most people I know unusable in PvE. Can't comment on their usefulness in pvp

[Zeus]

difference is still significant, they didnt make inferior 56 arcane this time

edit: forgot to add they were zeuz and tickle were arguing with me about flameforged doing more dmg than drag hunter when its release, i was saying CC is more important

now compare flameforged and this one you decide

They were useful before speed set. After speed set came, there was not really a use for them.

[soon]

I replaced my old arcane dagger 46 by arcane bow 56, I no see great damage in proc. What I noticed is that it immobilizes (not stuns) some types of enemies with a skull on the ground. It has good statistics, but the proc is still the rogue defense skill in PVE.


the image below shows the extra damage, highlighted in red


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[xxalivexx]

So, after owning both, I've done some extensive testing with both and would like to help other players come to a conclusion with their weapons.

First of, the dagger has 136 more armor and about 100 more damage over the bow. However, the bow makes up for that with its extremely powerful auto attack. The attack hits at 200% damage, so it will hit very hard on mobs and boss. Essentially, it's like having a mini aimed shot always on tap. I've also noticed the bow procs more frequently when compared to the dagger's proc rate.

How to Effectively Use Creeping Death:
When your character procs creeping death, a green glow will appear over your head. This green glow will last some amount of time before disappearing. During this time, your basic attacks will do percent health damage. So, the best way to work this is charge auto attack and tap aim until the green glow wears off. If you do it correctly, each proc should result in more than 30% of boss HP taken off.

The dagger has a great heal proc & the damage reduction of the proc is 40-50% with it lasting for 6-7 seconds. The pulses do around 700 damage and whatever damage is done is given back as heal (3 pulses in total).

All in all, I prefer the bow. The reason being is as a rogue, we do our job best by focusing damage. This is best done with the bow. However, in times where I need a bit of extra survivability, I would switch to daggers.

I agree, i've owned both and bow wins, everyone wants daggers because of stats but in pvp u can be the stronger one with the daggers, stats mean zip in a fight, better skill always wins.

[Zulgath]

Does this mean if we have 3 rogs eith arc bow and every rogue procs and uses the bow perfectly they all 3 do -90% off boss? In the time while they got the proc?

[Emmavortex]

But how does one aquire these immortal corruption daggers?