Is arcane bow suppose to do 5k dmg?

[yubaraj]

I am wondering this thing for a quite while and feel something fishy going on here.


Suppose rogue has 1200 dmg then calculation may be:
1200 x 2 (200%) x 1.5 (critical) = 3600 - dmg reduction/armor.


How come its doing 5k damage in pve. I don't understand how the calculation is done but something must be wrong.

Please STS tell us the calculation is right.

[Ireliaa]

your calculations are so wrong, bow doing 1500 dmg as non crit and 2000 -2300 dmg on crit on mobs

plus acording to dev's calculations(cant disclose names) bow vs dag is like this:
dagger doing %10 more skill damage than bow
and bow doing %14 more basic atack damage than dagger
and this is actually makes the bow little weak than intented on single target but its gonna be fixed thats all i can say

[Zylx]

Another nerf thread..

Selling pitch forks and torches 2m each

[Zeazimeh]

Another nerf thread..

Selling pitch forks and torches 2m each
Lol
#11chars

[Zeus]

Let me go make a thread asking if arcane gun is supposed to do high auto attack damage. :rolleyes:

[Plqgue]

Let me go make a thread asking if arcane gun is supposed to do high auto attack damage. :rolleyes:

Of course you would you cry about everything that gives another player besides you an advantage

[Zeus]

Of course you would you cry about everything that gives another player besides you an advantage

Look, just because you are on a ridiculous tantrum because a glitch got fixed does not give you the right to troll forums like you are. As I've said before, get used to it. My post was obviously made with light sarcasm in response to someone who does not realize that guns and bows do 200% auto attack damage. There's a reason why I put the rolling eyes emoji.

Take care! :D

[Plqgue]

Doesn't change the fact you cry when another class has the advantage...every single time..

[Zylx]

Look, just because you are on a ridiculous tantrum because a glitch got fixed does not give you the right to troll forums like you are. As I've said before, get used to it. My post was obviously made with light sarcasm in response to someone who does not realize that guns and bows do 200% auto attack damage. There's a reason why I put the rolling eyes emoji.

Take care! :D
Yeah zeus. Better not suggest anymore nerfs for anyone or else we'll make you eat your vegetables :rolleyes:

[Zeus]

Doesn't change the fact you cry when another class has the advantage...every single time..

LOL, I only really post about class fixes. I've advocated for several class buffs, including your beloved sorcerer shield. You really have no clue what you are talking about.

Here is one example:
http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?316925-I-think-Sorcerers-Are-Useless-in-PvE

[Lunarpvp]

The real crybabies are you all who come on with pointless rants. Then, point fingers at those who see the comedy in your childish rage's.

[yubaraj]

your calculations are so wrong, bow doing 1500 dmg as non crit and 2000 -2300 dmg on crit on mobs

plus acording to dev's calculations(cant disclose names) bow vs dag is like this:
dagger doing %10 more skill damage than bow
and bow doing %14 more basic atack damage than dagger
and this is actually makes the bow little weak than intented on single target but its gonna be fixed thats all i can say

It depends on which map you play on pve. I doubt any player knows the actual formula to calculate damage output.

I remember clearly rogues saying that they do 5k dmg on autoattack. My concern is based on that. I don't do screenshot so I can't show you proof nor i have 56 rogue with arcane bow.

[yubaraj]

Another nerf thread..

Selling pitch forks and torches 2m each

If you read clearly its not nerfing thread its about the concern about bow doing insane damage. Just requesting dev to look if its a bug or not. Bug needs to be fixed right?

And sure I will buy your pitch fork if its worthy.

[yubaraj]

Let me go make a thread asking if arcane gun is supposed to do high auto attack damage. :rolleyes:
I cannot stop you to make any thread so if you want you can. Don't roll your eyes and act like you know nothing about bow dealing insane damage.

And yes if new guns damage calculation is wrong or glitched of course I am not against fixing it. Btw I am not saying anything about wildfire Nerf.

If its a bug fix it. That's all I am requesting not crying. Or making a comedy scene here.

[Zeus]

I cannot stop you to make any thread so if you want you can. Don't roll your eyes and act like you know nothing about bow dealing insane damage.

And yes if new guns damage calculation is wrong or glitched of course I am not against fixing it. Btw I am not saying anything about wildfire Nerf.

If its a bug fix it. That's all I am requesting not crying. Or making a comedy scene here.

5k auto attack damage is only done with a charged auto attack. The gun hits harder than the bow on auto attack, this is a fact. So, if there is something to complain about then I suggest you first post about the gun.

Anyways, both guns and bows are supposed to do 200% attack damage so there is really nothing to complain about.

[yubaraj]

Look, just because you are on a ridiculous tantrum because a glitch got fixed does not give you the right to troll forums like you are. As I've said before, get used to it. My post was obviously made with light sarcasm in response to someone who does not realize that guns and bows do 200% auto attack damage. There's a reason why I put the rolling eyes emoji.

Take care! :D

I have seen you crying more than anyone else when they needed the armor. When they brought 46 arcane and lot others.

You say bow is doing 200% damage. And bow doing 4k 5k dmg . is that 200%? Seems like you need to take maths class.

[Zeus]

I have seen you crying more than anyone else when they needed the armor. When they brought 46 arcane and lot others.

You say bow is doing 200% damage. And bow doing 4k 5k dmg . is that 200%? Seems like you need to take maths class.

When you compare a charged attack to a regular attack, the damage is considerably more. Yes, that is actually less than 200% attack damage. You don't believe me? Grab a bow and grab a dagger and measure the damage output on the same mob. I know what I'm talking about in this case.

And sure, if my class gets an unjust nerf I will definitely complain about it. I also speak up for other classes if they're not up to par with others. Your level of biased cannot see that, that is not my problem.

[iiy]

Of course you would you cry about everything that gives another player besides you an advantage
+1. Sorry Zeus, but yes, you always talk about your own problems not looking on whats better for ALL players.

[Valkiryas]

+1. Sorry Zeus, but yes, you always talk about your own problems not looking on whats better for ALL players.

Yes but you guys are reading? The guns also are doing 200% damage and with a proper use can be even more deadly than bow cause the gun's basic attack is more quick than bow.

[Zeus]

+1. Sorry Zeus, but yes, you always talk about your own problems not looking on whats better for ALL players.

Lol, you do realize there's a plethora of buffs that came for warrior and sorcerer and I was one of the strongest advocates for them? However, that's your personal opinion.

The fact remains that the gun also does 200% attack damage, it hits harder than the bow, and it hits quicker. A thread like this is uncalled for. You cannot have your cake and eat it too. There's no use for a bow if 200% attack damage is removed.

[iiy]

Yes but you guys are reading? The guns also are doing 200% damage and with a proper use can be even more deadly than bow cause the gun's basic attack is more quick than bow.
I was talking about almost all Zeus' publications, not only about this one.

[greekAL]

that 5 k crit u talking about man rogues pay for tht -200 skill damage if they use bow instead of daggers so 5 k crit with bow auto attack yep is normal! is dps class! how about mages crit so much? isnt the rogue the dps class? or i am at wrong game XD

[yubaraj]

I have nothing biased view against any other classes. I play all classes some time but I don't have endgame rogue and warrior.

When they nerfed the armor I was against it even I play mage. Although they nerfed the armor they gave you the damage back in PvP.

If gun and bow doing insane damage then the calculation may be wrong. That's my only concern.

If you are saying gun is doing more auto attack damage then its obvious mage has more normal damage than rogue. However, in case of overall damage output rogue always wins.

[Zeus]

that 5 k crit u talking about man rogues pay for tht -200 skill damage if they use bow instead of daggers so 5 k crit with bow auto attack yep is normal! is dps class! how about mages crit so much? isnt the rogue the dps class? or i am at wrong game XD

Exactly, lol. Thank you! Nobody mentions the fact you lose 200 skill damage for using this bow.

[greekAL]

Exactly, lol. Thank you! Nobody mentions the fact you lose 200 skill damage for using this bow.

yep rogue actually pay a price of less damage/less armor with daggers to have the advantage of tht auto attack! tanks pay their new proc of aegis with less armor/damage too! mage what losing if wanna hit with 5 k crit at auto attack?

[Zeus]

yep rogue actually pay a price of less damage/less armor with daggers to have the advantage of tht auto attack! tanks pay their new proc of aegis with less armor/damage too! mage what losing if wanna hit with 5 k crit at auto attack?

They actually gain skill damage compared to staff, if I am not mistaken. This is why I truly do not understand the logic of this post, lol. Not only does it hit harder, but there's not really a compromise for gun as there is for bow vs. daggers. Also, lets not forget we lose more than 130 armor by choosing bow.

[Befs]

Why are people bashing Zeus?

He clearly advocates for class balance, not having an unfair advantage for himself (as if he needs it).

And as he has pointed out, the gun does similar, if not more damage.

P.S. I am a mage, and do not want any of these weapons nerfed in any way.

[Lawpvp]

Why are people bashing Zeus?

He clearly advocates for class balance, not having an unfair advantage for himself (as if he needs it).

And as he has pointed out, the gun does similar, if not more damage.

P.S. I am a mage, and do not want any of these weapons nerfed in any way.

he also advocates for p2w bs

[greekAL]

They actually gain skill damage compared to staff, if I am not mistaken. This is why I truly do not understand the logic of this post, lol. Not only does it hit harder, but there's not really a compromise for gun as there is for bow vs. daggers. Also, lets not forget we lose more than 130 armor by choosing bow.

rogues already nerfed with many ways! armor nerf last season,giving tanks the lvl 46 sword etc... i dont think rogues need to nerfed once more i believe mages become the op class now! may i am mistaken but that all i see till now! when i have time to check more i can say 100% if tht happened!

[Zeus]

he also advocates for p2w bs

Advocates? I suggest you read my most recent posts. I'm being realistic. They're not going to do away with the system, so I be realistic and ask for something that is possible, such as reducing the gap between housing tiers. So, having a cottage buff, lodge buff, or tavern buff won't make much of a difference.

It'll still generate income for STG, but also keep free players happy. I'm generally not a fan in wasting my time and asking STG to do away with a system that is going to generate them income is a waste of time. What you can do, however, is reduce the severity of the impact.

[Hercules]

I am wondering this thing for a quite while and feel something fishy going on here. As my layman calculation normal bow attack should not exceed 4k dmg.
Suppose rogue has 1200 dmg then calculation should be
1200 x 2 (200%) x 1.5 (critical) = 3600

How come its doing 5k damage. I don't understand how the calculation is done but something must be wrong.

This is a problem in PvP as rogue has high critical they are doing critical hit every second attack.

Please STS look into this matter and fix it if its a bug.

I look like an old man here but I remember when rogues hit 7-8k critical in lvl 36-41. We need to say thanks because now armor reduce damage and rogues have not all complete damage in PVP hehehe :miserable::confusion:

[yubaraj]

Lol rogues

They seem to think I am asking for Nerf. I say again I am not.

Please dev just release your formula to calculate normal damage. Charged and uncharged. so we can do some maths here.

And yes, mages have high crit, high dodge, high armor also we can combo skill attack non-stop. Our gun do faster damage. Yes.
Don't be so jealous about being mage OP.

[greekAL]

Lol rogues

They seem to think I am asking for Nerf. I say again I am not.

Please dev just release your formula to calculate normal damage. Charged and uncharged. so we can do some maths here.

And yes, mages have high crit, high dodge, high armor also we can combo skill attack non-stop. Our gun do faster damage. Yes.
Don't be so jealous about being mage OP.

jjealous? -_- man havent to do about who is jealous! we ar talking about balance! balance should give all classes equal chances to win or lose! thts my opinion! if mages should be op let it be!

[Kim S. Barcelo]

If you read clearly its not nerfing thread its about the concern about bow doing insane damage. Just requesting dev to look if its a bug or not. Bug needs to be fixed right?

And sure I will buy your pitch fork if its worthy.
Hi sir im using beetle born gun lvl 56 legendary for mage, if i charge it the critical is 4500+ to ursoth boss because guns and bows deals 2x damage

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[yubaraj]

Hi sir im using beetle born gun lvl 56 legendary for mage, if i charge it the critical is 4500+ to ursoth boss because guns and bows deals 2x damage

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Thank you sir for enlightening me.

[Kim S. Barcelo]

Thank you sir for enlightening me.
You're welcome :-)

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[Imback Al]

This turned from a crying about critical thread to let's gang up on Zeus because he's richer than us rant lol.
I use arc bow and I have nearly perfect gear and I've never see it crit 5k in pvp... 3k at most.
Idk what kind of player gets hit 5k...someone without armor for sure. Probably very low hp

[yubaraj]

This turned from a crying about critical thread to let's gang up on Zeus because he's richer than us rant lol.
I use arc bow and I have nearly perfect gear and I've never see it crit 5k in pvp... 3k at most.
Idk what kind of player gets hit 5k...someone without armor for sure. Probably very low hp

Here comes AL 3/4 th best rogue lol.

I don't care if anyone is rich or poor.

So you have nearly perfect gear lol.

Yes I do have zero armor.

[Anyona]

They actually gain skill damage compared to staff, if I am not mistaken. This is why I truly do not understand the logic of this post, lol. Not only does it hit harder, but there's not really a compromise for gun as there is for bow vs. daggers. Also, lets not forget we lose more than 130 armor by choosing bow.

There is no compromise for mages but Aimed Shot is extremely powerful, with it's high end having like 5k skill damage. Compared to a mage with 1.4k damage having 3.6k light skill damage. AS has been been powerful forever now but with the removal of their dmg nerf in pvp it's becoming noticeable now.

[yubaraj]

Clean up this thread plz.

And hoping for clarification on this damage calculation.

[Befs]

Clean up this thread plz.

And hoping for clarification on this damage calculation.

You have the basic bow damage shown in the stat page, which is actually multiplied by 2 on auto attacks. Then if it's a charged attack it'll deal more, + critical hit = [YOUR DAMAGE]

This is not taking into account proc, and the 2x auto attack damage only applies for bows and guns.