Kiting: Who's the Real Noob?

[Buddyf97]

Ill go right ahead and say it:
Kiting is Skill, Not Noobish
Kiting takes practice and very few people can preform it. I use dexbear twinks at lvls 5, 16, 20, and soon to be 26, I kite on them all. Here's some food for thought:
If everyone can kite, why doesn't everyone kite?
Why do crossbow users sacrifice damage for distance?
Why doesn't everyone kite if it's ^so overpowered?
There's a simple answer to all of these:
Kiting is skill, good kiters win, bad ones fail miserably

I have been rushed countless times because I "run" or I "kite"
It cracks me up when I am on my wand Mage and a dexbear complains I kite.
I have just hit 100 kills on my lvl 16, and I only do 1v1s. I finished with a record of 100-22. A k/d almost at 5. I can only think of two REAL deaths from an actual player, not a rush in aggravation that I "kite" or "run"

Kiting is Skill, Face the Facts.

[xBlacklightx]

We're all impressed.

[Xazic]

Even though, people don't accept kiters very well... They come in the hate scale after spwaners and rushers... Weird, huh?

[Buddyf97]

Even though, people don't accept kiters very well... They come in the hate scale after spwaners and rushers... Weird, huh?
Ikr! Rushers and spawners are just plain old rude. Kiting is a skill, not an action

[Orcish]

That's just the nature of any kind of pvp (to include fps), people will always have an issue with something, campers, spawners, kiters, etc. Basically if your winning they're hatin'.

[xbabybugszx]

I HATE kiters. Tired of them.!. Always hated it. And btw at lvl26 your not gona be able to kite. To many pros kan stop kiters so easy. Like me. Blitz. Everhate.lisa. vvrecked. Vvrath.wontyee. my list keeps of going. If yur gona be at 26 dont kite.

[xbabybugszx]

Not a threat just giving you a heads up. If you kite at our level. You probably gona get rushed. :) just giving you a heads up

[protectorofnoobs]

Not a threat just giving you a heads up. If you kite at our level. You probably gona get rushed. :) just giving you a heads up

aiiiigghhhhhttttttttt
u can kite at basically any level, including 26
kiting is not only about the range of your weapon but your skills sooooooo you can avoid your opponents skills while you do yours
srsly pls know what kiting isss b4 u talk about it in such a manner
in fact, i respect people who can kite well because its hard to do
and its not noobish either because not anybody can kite and it helps take advantage of your regen and protects you (because you have low armor, etc.)
and most people dont hate it ( if you do hate it, its cuz u cant kite or and cant even fight well)

[Register]

what ipro said..One reason I love kiters is because they are SOOO skilled at pvp, they barely get hit! I personally choose not to kite unless I alreayd fought the person a few times. i wanna see if I can win without kiting before going to kiting. But yeah kiters will be kiters. Haters will be haters. Kiters get booted,rushed, and trash talked. Haters get kills and kills. Its how it goes. Unless the kiter makes his/her own game :P

[pahud]

im just gonna say it flat out. I can live with with kiters until a certain point. When u say kiting takes skill, idk if i can agree or disagree with that, its pretty much running. As a dex bird it becomes frustrating when all u you see is dex mages (autobow of course) running away from you (with their 100+ crit) while smashing heal. 2 autos will kill me and they didnt even have to do a skill. Thats my case, idk whether u agree or not.

[Register]

im just gonna say it flat out. I can live with with kiters until a certain point. When u say kiting takes skill, idk if i can agree or disagree with that, its pretty much running. As a dex bird it becomes frustrating when all u you see is dex mages (autobow of course) running away from you (with their 100+ crit) while smashing heal. 2 autos will kill me and they didnt even have to do a skill. Thats my case, idk whether u agree or not.

Thorn root is a very good skill :P Face it, most people who hate kiters hate it because they are losing. Running is different. Runners waste your buff or run until they can catch you without a vital skill. But lots of people hate kiters because they cannot win. My advice to them....Try playing differently....or....Leave the game. Spazzing out and trash talking wont help you win

[jakelol]

I deff agree with pahud! No questions asked..... Kiting proves nothing... Now if u can straight up ko someone in a straight up pvp then that takes more skill then the opposite player what clearly show u have more speed and more skill and to do so u have the skill to know the opposite players weakness! easy as pie for the most part :] haha btw if u don't have a fast device u might wanna stay outta pvp till u do!

[Orcish]

I would think if a player was elite at pvping they wouldn't have to be concern with how another player plays...

[Sun]

pro tip...if someone is kiting you, dont chase them. Run the opposite direction, out of their attack range. They'll run towards you to try to get back in range, then you turn and run towards them and suddenly you're in attack range. And like someone else said using a crossbow sacrifices a good bit of damage for the range, so once you get in range you have a pretty significant advantage

[Buddyf97]

I HATE kiters. Tired of them.!. Always hated it. And btw at lvl26 your not gona be able to kite. To many pros kan stop kiters so easy. Like me. Blitz. Everhate.lisa. vvrecked. Vvrath.wontyee. my list keeps of going. If yur gona be at 26 dont kite.
First off, decent kiters don't get killed, not even touched at times. I've faced everyone on that list. They will all say I "run" when I don't even run, my repulse shot does all the work for me. Only 2 skills plus a repulse, repeat, dead enemy. And Vv can't counter kite for the life of him. Unless that counts raging and rushing me serval times after. Blitz left a few of my games cause I "run" If these so called "pros" are dying from kiters why don't they kite? Simple answer: THEY CAN'T They don't have the skill to preform it properly.

[Kingofhurtz]

Kiting is my friend. That is all.

[Salutee]

Well said Buddy.
Kiting does take skill! I remember when you started to kite me with your 20 I didn't know how to handle it. Then I tried to kite but I sucked at first. It took A LONG TIME, probably 1000 1v1s to really start mastering it. lol
yes you can kite at 26

[Whirlzap]

But, I beat you earlier today in a Kiting Duel (with the additional dodges, of course)
I am now the new King of Kiting (with a staff)!

[Buddyf97]

Well said Buddy.
Kiting does take skill! I remember when you started to kite me with your 20 I didn't know how to handle it. Then I tried to kite but I sucked at first. It took A LONG TIME, probably 1000 1v1s to really start mastering it. lol
yes you can kite at 26
^Kiting Buddies forever

But, I beat you earlier today in a Kiting Duel (with the additional dodges, of course)
I am now the new King of Kiting (with a staff)!
Lol Whirlz, I don't mega kite like a do on my twinks on my main. I might try and kite your drain but then it's all debuffs from there.

[Ellyidol]

pro tip...if someone is kiting you, dont chase them. Run the opposite direction, out of their attack range. They'll run towards you to try to get back in range, then you turn and run towards them and suddenly you're in attack range. And like someone else said using a crossbow sacrifices a good bit of damage for the range, so once you get in range you have a pretty significant advantage

Exactly, finally.

Yes, kiting is a skill, but to avoid and counter being kited is an even better skill.

[Whirlzap]

I basically debuffed you then took you down with my elemental magic.
I bet people just go ROFLIHATEYOUKITER because they think, "Why kite if you can kill like a pro without?"
Well, sir, I say, "What kind of a pro gets a faceplant after being kited?"

[Orcish]

I basically debuffed you then took you down with my elemental magic.
I bet people just go ROFLIHATEYOUKITER because they think, "Why kite if you can kill like a pro without?"
Well, sir, I say, "What kind of a pro gets a faceplant after being kited?"
ROFL @ Whirlzap!

[Piosidon]

I can never kite cause I either run to far or too close.

[LADYHADASSA]

Sun n elli
i agree its a skill and i have to say that anyone who has raised a full mage or bird should understand they kite! Mmm and some metioned here who nay say kiting do it as well if they are honest

Big BIG BIG diff from kiting and running i hate running running accross a map thats a little to much but any really long battles where ur thumb goes numb... Ya move in that board together in battle... Seriousley the best do know how to counter win ir loose ....

Simple just have fun

[cmangalos]

on fighting you need strategy to win, and kiting is one of it

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[protectorofnoobs]

CLARIFICATION FOR OTHERS:
Kiting: You are moving in and out of your opponents' and your own attack range so that you hit them and them not you.
Running: Running away in one direction (no change in direction) and not coming close to the other's attack range.
THERE IS A DIFFERENCE
Tips for birds who are tired of dex mages (Im a dexmage myself)
1. Use thorn wall and root if they constantly run
2. Use avian scream lvl 5 or 6 (not sure if both work) when mages frostbite or icestorm you
3. If they kite, use repulse and combo it up when they come back (they cant stop you because frostbite takes a bit more time to take effect)
NOTE: PLS PLS notice that using repulse is pretty much the same thing as running or kiting, except your making your opponent move not you yourself (so dont call others kiters )


annddddddddddd: When you do pvp for a certain amount of time, you notice that there are many factors in pvp. If everybody had to just walk toward each other and spam skills, the person with the best gear would win. And as the author of this post stated, there is a reason why xbows have less damage ( its cuz of the range). Knowing the range of your opponent and yourself is a very important skill to achieve as an experienced pvper.

[Zerious]

juking + kiting... Some serious skill. Running... noobz... That's all

best kiters I've ever faced: Salutee, Buddyf, and for a while, finneri.

Just play the mindgames, You got a better chance than rage-rushing like a noob. Plus it's more fun if you learn how to fight kiting with juking :) right Buddy?

[Chrysys]

There r no rules to pvp. U win u lose. Whether its kiting or not, if u win that's all that matters. Those who hate kiters only hate it Cuz they don't know how to deal with it. There are ways around everything, kiters included. As far as the crying about dex Mages kiting birds. Here's the facts. Us mages r fragile. We have 400 health. Once.shield is broken it only takes two hits to kill us where as birds n bears have health advantage, not to mention the dps advantage. Simple beckon stomp n we die or two quick bird skills we die. U can't expect a mage to just stand there and let u hit them. If so they suck as a mage. The crying about kiting is nothing more than just pathetic. Birds n bears kite as well. Its everywhere. There's nothing u can do to change it. Deal with it.

-saycred-

[help me]

Uh u probally won't be able to kite at lvl 22+ on dexbears and I don't recall anyone beating me besides a few in A fight or two so if ur so "good" id like to fight u

[Riccits]

kiting with xbow is dam hard and needs practice to learn it well. iam jealous to all the xbow artists...

[Windboot]

To all haters.

Kiting isnt running away, please understand being smart in range and being a coward who is running all over map wait your buff end is different.
Kiters just take good range where enemy cant touch you. It takes skill and practice of when to start move forward and when to avoid. And to those pro tips how to fight kiter, a real pro kiter know when to approach and avoid enemy, even when enemy get out of range and then move forward again.

Dont hate things you cant beat, learn how to beat it.

Flamberge ( 15 Bear Twink Auto-Bow User )

[Buddyf97]

juking + kiting... Some serious skill. Running... noobz... That's all

best kiters I've ever faced: Salutee, Buddyf, and for a while, finneri.

Just play the mindgames, You got a better chance than rage-rushing like a noob. Plus it's more fun if you learn how to fight kiting with juking :) right Buddy?
Right, Zerious! Too bad I couldn't kite you for the lvl 20 tournament...
Here's something to look at:
FPS Shooters: Camping is considered "noob" material. People can't beat it. They hate it. Why? Cause they can't beat it.
Pocket Legends: Kiting is considered "noob" material. People can't beat it. They hate it. Why? Cause they can't beat it.
See the pattern???

[Barbamitsos]

1) About kiting: u have some spells ok? U kite so that u depend on this lucky crit or on ur wep dmg? Its like u dont trust that ur build or ur skill order will kill the opponent that basically turns the meaning of pvp into a different thing. A struggle to win usin a way that u can hit when the other one... Ow well... Cant
2) the kiting needs "skill": now that we can determine the 12' range as when were in it we face the oponent guess what! Kiting is easy! The thing is... U want to get u opponent in a bad situation just to have the false idea ur stronger?
3) nature of pvp: i have been here quit a time and iv experienced and experience pvp of all lvls. I can understand people have difrent opinions but think that lvl 60s wait til they can ice drain fire to oneshot u in a 1v1. Afterwards they even say gf! No insult but i really beleive skills r there to be used and not stay there and the player run a mile or twO to avoid his "stronger" opponent


I also kite sometimes... It is natural. But if u learn to face someone from 2 metres range and not 12 ull feel the diference urself. Cya ingame buddyf

[Junside]

I don't respect kiting as it usually declares you think you will most certainly die if you stay any longer than 5 seconds.

But I don't hate it either. Anyone stupid enough to follow someone and continue to eat damage deserves to die and has no right to complain because he/she fell for it.

Im a warbird in PL so I can stand my ground. I may turn a corner or use a tree to make my opponents' skills useless but otherwise, I can't bring myself to run away in any form, style or shape. I'll take my death and move on. And kiting is - in technical terms - a form of running. Hopefully, you'll have a respectable opponent who accepts that he/she was foolish enough to follow.

I wont tell you to stop kiting just because its not in my Playbook. But I will call out straight-up running away like a coward.

[KingFu]

I can understand kiting, but I think kiting in general gets more credit than it's due. I mean, it pretty much is running, only you can attack your opponent and they can't. Given kiting is referring to being on the edge of your range, making it so your enemy can't hit. I don't expect an archer/Mage to stay in one spot when I'm a str bear, but I don't appreciate it when people are running from me so I can't hit, they repulse/firestorm to counter beckon, then run some more. I can understand rooting/freeze me, and sitting their attacking me, since I'm the one stuck in one place (and I don't expect them to run up to me to let me attack em) but when I have the ability to move, and we can actually have a decent fight, and they're going in the opposite direction, I don't think of it as a fair fight. I've kited at times, and tried kiting. I don't do it much anymore (well, don't try to. In some instances I end up doing a little in all honesty) but I think of it as not being able to handle the opponents hits. It can be difficult to master, but it's similar to me as counting cards. Hard to master, not many can do it well, but if you can, it's cheap. (IK, fail analogy):p

[protectorofnoobs]

@barbamitsos
um u still use skills when ur kiting btw
aanndddddd y dont u just get a mage in one v one and starrt running towards a bear and see what happens?