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Trollee
09-13-2011, 04:37 AM
EDIT: Title should read: 'Rushing Haunted Symphony'

I have not heard of people doing this as of yet... But I think that due to the immense shortage of Glyph helms that this would be a good idea! Haunted Symphony is such a long level and is not farmed as far as i know of but rushing the level (as in just running through and not killing any mobs and skipping mini boss etc) could be an efficient(ish) way to farm for glyph helms, IMO, much better than the really short Panto runs at Nuri's Funhouse.

PM me in game and we'll give it a shot!

WoundedEagle
09-13-2011, 05:38 AM
I thought it was just 'Haunted Symphony'..... ?

Trollee
09-13-2011, 05:40 AM
I thought it was just 'Haunted Symphony'..... ?

Oops... =S

WoundedEagle
09-13-2011, 05:55 AM
Oops... =S
:-) lol

Yvonnel
09-13-2011, 06:31 AM
You just have not been joining the right parties.

RedRyder
09-13-2011, 06:35 AM
Lol you can't rush anymore. That was taken off during the alien oasis part 2 era. You have to bring the enemie count down a certain amount before the boss even spawns. This only works in the nuri level since she's the counted enemy for the level.

Zaltiar
09-13-2011, 06:40 AM
@^
What he said :), you need a specific amount of mob kill.
Nuri's Madness run only works because there is only "1" mob you have to kill, and thats Nuri herself.
Lion's Den": you need 13 mobs left at the end for tamer and lion to appear.

CrimsonTider
09-13-2011, 06:49 AM
Two questions:

1) Has anyone tried rushing Panto yet? If not, this could be a viable option.

2) Have we forgotten about the Snakecharmer? He can be rushed like the Fat Lady.

:)

Ixillicus
09-13-2011, 06:51 AM
Actually. I dont think there is a minimum requirement on Haunted Symphony.

Haunted Symphony = 76 (Thanks elly!)
House of Pain = 18
Lions Den = 13
Bog = No Requirement (you can rush and kill boss, I've done it many times)
Nuri = No Requirement.

Fun House = No requirements from what I can tell.

Edit: Those wiser than me have given me some good data.

Ellyidol
09-13-2011, 06:52 AM
Magic number is 76. Assuming you skip the mini-boss, as well as that corner in that squared pathway of the mini-boss, 76 should be right after the first set of mobs you encounter in that huge squarish room with fences in the middle.

That said, pure rushing after 76 and clearing towards the boss at 76 is roughly the same time, give or take a few seconds getting to the boss. I would suggest clearing normally, just quicker.

Trollee
09-13-2011, 06:57 AM
Magic number is 76. Assuming you skip the mini-boss, as well as that corner in that squared pathway of the mini-boss, 76 should be right after the first set of mobs you encounter in that huge squarish room with fences in the middle.

That said, pure rushing after 76 and clearing towards the boss at 76 is roughly the same time, give or take a few seconds getting to the boss. I would suggest clearing normally, just quicker.

Thanks ! Just the info I wanted to know.
No wonder Glyph helms are so rare and sought after.

CrimsonTider
09-13-2011, 06:59 AM
Magic number is 76. Assuming you skip the mini-boss, as well as that corner in that squared pathway of the mini-boss, 76 should be right after the first set of mobs you encounter in that huge squarish room with fences in the middle.

That said, pure rushing after 76 and clearing towards the boss at 76 is roughly the same time, give or take a few seconds getting to the boss. I would suggest clearing normally, just quicker.

What about the Funhouse? Can bosses be rushed or easier to just clear? No time to test as I am still trying to level.

Ellyidol
09-13-2011, 07:01 AM
Thanks ! Just the info I wanted to know.
No wonder Glyph helms are so rare and sought after.

Yup, even just getting to 76 mobs in map 1 probably means already killing the boss or finishing the other maps. Lol.

This is just like Tpaxx map in AO3, most clearing/longest map, most valuable pinks. If I'm not mistaken, this is followed by map 4 (Snake), map 2, map 3, and finally map 5.

Although map 5 has the bow, the two out of the six possible glyph drops are the 2H swords, which don't seem to have any value at all, add that with the fact that map 5 has no XP, I'd say map 5 is quite risky or low return to farm.


What about the Funhouse? Can bosses be rushed or easier to just clear? No time to test as I am still trying to level.

I never run Funhouse :p I have never trusted that map since it released and the prices of the helms still don't make me trust it more. If Funhouse was that good as a farm map, the first prices to drop would be helms, IMO, but they aren't :)

stank
09-13-2011, 07:17 AM
Ive seen glyphs drop in funhouse. Would it be faster to get a good group and make funhouse game and kill panto then rmk and repeat. Could probly kill panto 3-4 times vs 1 time in first map. But i havnt played funhouse in a week so im not sure if drop rate has been changed there

Ixillicus
09-13-2011, 07:20 AM
What about the Funhouse? Can bosses be rushed or easier to just clear? No time to test as I am still trying to level.

I tested this just by running through the first 2 boss areas. Panto will spawn whether or not you kill the 6 enemies before him. Gustav too. Then the mobs caught me and I died lol

I think you could rush, but honestly, the enemies are so insignificant that its easier to fight them. The drops do seem to happen less frequently on this map.

We were farming Panto here because we thought it might be a faster way to get some helms. We did runs to panto and rmk, for about 90 mins straight. Using elix the run took about 2 mins, and in 45 runs we got one glyph helm lol and one junk pink.

Ellyidol
09-13-2011, 07:21 AM
Ive seen glyphs drop in funhouse. Would it be faster to get a good group and make funhouse game and kill panto then rmk and repeat. Could probly kill panto 3-4 times vs 1 time in first map. But i havnt played funhouse in a week so im not sure if drop rate has been changed there

Technically, yes the Funhouse should make farming the helms faster. But, that's assuming the drop rate is the same. The current supply and prices of the helms show that this isn't the case, I don't think Funhouse rates are good compared to normal maps.

Ixillicus
09-13-2011, 07:25 AM
Technically, yes the Funhouse should make farming the helms faster. But, that's assuming the drop rate is the same. The current supply and prices of the helms show that this isn't the case, I don't think Funhouse rates are good compared to normal maps.

My post just above this shows how sucky the drop rates are there lol

Ellyidol
09-13-2011, 07:29 AM
My post just above this shows how sucky the drop rates are there lol

Ninja'd! But yes, roughly at 1 glyph in 45 runs, close to 2%. I'm not sure if that's good or bad exactly. Lol.

Ixillicus
09-13-2011, 07:34 AM
Ninja'd! But yes, roughly at 1 glyph in 45 runs, close to 2%. I'm not sure if that's good or bad exactly. Lol.

i don't know how that stacks up to the other maps either. That was only 1 drop for 1 person. *it was a mimicry too*
I know each players drop is independent, but if we look at the total # of drops

45runs x 5 = 225 drops
1 of 225 = 0.004% lol

that's not a nice number lol.

Trollee
09-13-2011, 08:36 AM
45runs x 5 = 225 drops
1 of 225 = 0.004% lol

that's not a nice number lol.

* 1/225 = 0.004 = 0.4%

I think this is a pretty reasonable number because I also did runs to Panto and rmk at funhouse for about an hour and saw only 1 Nuri's Glyph hood go to someone else.
I dont like the incredibly low drop rates at Funhouse :/

RedRyder
09-13-2011, 08:42 AM
i dont like incredibly low drop rates anywhere -_- i swear all i get are maestro batons..... and occasional blunderbuss' and scimitars

Ellyidol
09-13-2011, 08:45 AM
i dont like incredibly low drop rates anywhere -_- i swear all i get are maestro batons..... and occasional blunderbuss' and scimitars

Lol, I remember on the first day or two, a Maestro's Baton I got sold for 400k. I wish it were the case now! Lol

Trollee
09-13-2011, 08:46 AM
Lol, I remember on the first day or two, a Maestro's Baton I got sold for 400k. I wish it were the case now! Lol

I pity the fool who bought that =/

Ellyidol
09-13-2011, 08:48 AM
I pity the fool who bought that =/

In fairness, I bought a Tamer's Scimitar of the Big Top for about 100k back then too :p

Ixillicus
09-13-2011, 01:59 PM
Haha yea. I sold a bunch of those junk pinks for like 100k on the first day.