Goof bye aoa!!!!???

[xantor]

Good bye AoA I'm done.....I hoped for the best believed in the guild and stood firm on the values it stands for.....but.... Guild leader woundedeagle is never on ....and if he is its for maybe 5mins.....I expected better leadership from a goa. Woundedeagle u are......

[Nick41324]

Goof bye :(

[Whirlzap]

Please keep in mind Woundy has a life. Yes, a real life.
Look it up in a dictionary! It means:
A person who does not commit all his time to Video Games.
Also, don't set expectations high! You'll find yourself with low expectations.

[Artemis]

Hes to busy hitting on the ladiess.

[Otukura]

Hes to busy hitting on the ladiess.
He's past that stage.

[13lacklegionz]

Awkward silence*

[Eyesharp]

It's called having a life dude geez

[Siejo]

Well just remember the school year has started again which means lots of people appear to be on less. Academics is important and has far more precedence over a game. Perhaps you should private message him and address your concerns instead of flaming him here.

[Zeus]

Let's all point fingers; we are all in kindergarten, right?

[Conradin]

Let's all point fingers; we are all in kindergarten, right?

Teacher: Conradin! Stop eating glue!! Parth stop trying to cut Lyrics hair!

[Zeus]

Teacher: Conradin! Stop eating glue!! Parth stop trying to cut Lyrics hair!

Conradin, stop trying to peer pressure me to eat glue. You're lying! All the cool kids do NOT eat glue!

[ScarecrowWolf]

If you're going to be a guild leader, you would need to be on a lot more than 5min a day. Im not sure about any of u, but shouldnt a leaders job be to lead not look. All you can really do in 5 min is do a run and say hi to guild members. Not too good of a leader. I work 8 hours a day doing electric and hang out with a couple of the homies and I still manage to find 2 hours a day to play.

But who am I, im not a guardian so I cant speak. Being a guardian must be hard work....LOL

[KingFu]

Ikr? He's such a bad GoA...having school to go to and a life to live...

/Sarcasm

[morfic]

Ikr? He's such a bad GoA...having school to go to and a life to live...

/Sarcasm

In all honesty, as a guild master it is true...you should be active in your guild. If you are not going to be active...pass the ball. I think he worded it a little too deragatory...but it does stand true.

Stop white knighting. ;p

[KingFu]

In all honesty, as a guild master it is true...you should be active in your guild. If you are not going to be active...pass the ball. I think he worded it a little too deragatory...but it does stand true.

Stop white knighting. ;p

I agree, a guild master should be active. But what really defines active? I see it as, you log in daily (or frequently), stay updated, and view STS/guild forums. As long as the master knows what's going on, I don't think it matters if they're on 10 minutes a day, or 2 hours a day. He may be going through problems at the moment, or just caught up in school, I don't know. Point being, he has business to take care of and he's putting his priorities in order. As long as the guild isn't a mad house and falling apart, I don't see the reason to be upset about it, and even if it was, I don't see the need to post it on forums publicly...

[Zaltiar]

Dude like omg totally right. Like people should spend their whole free time, slash that, their life on pl. I mean, pft its not like there's anything else to do.

[SUPAPRODIGY]

In all honesty, as a guild master it is true...you should be active in your guild. If you are not going to be active...pass the ball. I think he worded it a little too deragatory...but it does stand true.

Stop white knighting. ;p

I agree, a guild master should be active. But what really defines active? I see it as, you log in daily (or frequently), stay updated, and view STS/guild forums. As long as the master knows what's going on, I don't think it matters if they're on 10 minutes a day, or 2 hours a day. He may be going through problems at the moment, or just caught up in school, I don't know. Point being, he has business to take care of and he's putting his priorities in order. As long as the guild isn't a mad house and falling apart, I don't see the reason to be upset about it, and even if it was, I don't see the need to post it on forums publicly...



Active Guild master means playing 6 hours straight Imo Just kidding

[ScarecrowWolf]

Not 6 hours, but at the very, very, least 30 minutes a day. You should at least be able to command it or let someone be the leader until you get back on.

[Zaltiar]

That's why we have officers, I guess guild leaders just have to organize officers better. Plus, there's not much reason to "command" the guild atm.
I try to be on at least 2-3 hours everyday now due to rl commitments, I've seen wounded on a couple of times as well when I was on.and trust me, it wasn't just 5 minutes.
It might be that you guys are on a different time zone, I rarely see most of the forumers here cause I live in Aussie. Different people have different priorities, just because you (not directed to anyone) play 5 hours doesn't mean everyone else should be on the same amount of hours.

[KingFu]

Not 6 hours, but at the very, very, least 30 minutes a day. You should at least be able to command it or let someone be the leader until you get back on.

As long as they're staying updated, and knows what's going on, why does it matter how long they're on?

[Siejo]

As long as they're staying updated, and knows what's going on, why does it matter how long they're on?

Exactly. Remember this game is not targeting one age. My guild for example is age 14-44. I know my young members are in school and I tell them the guild will always be here when they have time. It isn't fair to expect a leader or a member to be on 24/7. The devs don't even spend that much time in game but they are still the devs right?

[Ellyidol]

Lol, what is there to 'lead' anyway? No wars, no throne threats, whatever.

Leaders get busy too, if a leader is such an important role to you, why don't you start a guild yourself?

[Orcish]

There are many different types of leaders and if you don't like the leadership you have, maybe your first step should have been speaking with your superiors so that THEY can be better informed, so THEY can make informative decisions and assist you with "your" particular "issue", or at least give you a reason as to why. To say Woundedeagle isn't a good leader because he has IRL responsibilities, is a self absorbing observation IMO. Leaving the guild isn't an issue, it's the posting and pointing the finger at someone as to why, that's the issue. Sounds like more of an excuse to leave if you ask me. Hey if better leadership is out there then good luck on your search, I hope you find what your looking for.

For all those wondering; No I am not a member of the AoA guild, and I am not a speaker for the AoA guild.

[JaytB]

Personally, I think this should've been handled via PM, and not publicly on the forum. I'm not trying to flame here or anything, but I honestly don't see the point of this post. The only thing you'll get out of it IMO, is that other guild leaders will think twice before accepting you in their guild. I mean, who would want someone who runs to the forum to make a post, as soon as he/she disagrees with how the guild is run? What I'm trying to say is that, in the end, IMO it hurts your rep more then the one you're blaming for bad leadership.

[RedRyder]

Personally, I think this should've been handled via PM, and not publicly on the forum. I'm not trying to flame here or anything, but I honestly don't see the point of this post. The only thing you'll get out of it IMO, is that other guild leaders will think twice before accepting you in their guild. I mean, who would want someone who runs to the forum to make a post, as soon as he/she disagrees with how the guild is run? What I'm trying to say is that, in the end, IMO it hurts your rep more then the one you're blaming for bad leadership.

Spoken like a true leader :p
I'm on wounded's side of course. I work and I go to school so I don't get too much time to play.
I also try to maintain a healthy social life, so I can't always play.

Why don't you just try making your own guild? Then you can run it however you see fit.
And if you're inactive, you can make another goof bye thread

[morfic]

you can make another goof bye thread

lollll. Made my night Ryder.

[Siejo]

you can make another goof bye thread

RedRyder is always keeping it real :star:

[Orcish]

Spoken like a true leader :p
I'm on wounded's side of course. I work and I go to school so I don't get too much time to play.
I also try to maintain a healthy social life, so I can't always play.

Why don't you just try making your own guild? Then you can run it however you see fit.
And if you're inactive, you can make another goof bye thread

You kill me! ROFL thanks for that haha...

[Corpser]

Please keep in mind Woundy has a life. Yes, a real life.
Look it up in a dictionary! It means:
A person who does not commit all his time to Video Games.
Also, don't set expectations high! You'll find yourself with low expectations.

actually acording to my dictionary


life |līf|
noun ( pl. lives |līvz|)
1 the condition that distinguishes animals and plants from inorganic matter, including the capacity for growth, reproduction, functional activity, and continual change preceding death : the origins of life.
• living things and their activity : some sort of life existed on Mars | lower forms of life | the ice-cream vendors were the only signs of life.
• the state of being alive as a human being : she didn't want to die; she loved life | a superficial world where life revolved around the minutiae of outward appearance.
• [with adj. ] a particular type or aspect of people's existence : an experienced teacher will help you settle into school life | revelations about his private life.
• vitality, vigor, or energy : she was beautiful and full of life.
2 the existence of an individual human being or animal : a disaster that claimed the lives of 266 Americans.
• [often with adj. ] a way of living : his father decided to start a new life in California.
• a biography : a life of Shelley.
• either of the two states of a person's existence separated by death (as in Christianity and some other religious traditions) : too much happiness in this life could reduce the chances of salvation in the next.
• any of a number of successive existences in which a soul is held to be reincarnated (as in Hinduism and some other religious traditions).
• a chance to live after narrowly escaping death (esp. with reference to the nine lives traditionally attributed to cats).
3 (usu. one's life) the period between the birth and death of a living thing, esp. a human being : she has lived all her life in the country | I want to be with you for the rest of my life | they became friends for life.
• the period during which something inanimate or abstract continues to exist, function, or be valid : underlay helps to prolong the life of a carpet.
• informal a sentence of imprisonment for life.
4 (in art) the depiction of a subject from a real model, rather than from an artist's imagination : the pose and clothing were sketched from life | [as adj. ] life drawing. See also still life .

[ScarecrowWolf]

Im gonna have to agree with Xantor. What would happen if Obama, the worst president in all of humanities leaders, decided to leave all the troops in afghanistan, or where ever the hell we're trying to 'take' over, and shut down any radio transmitions between the troops and the command center. They would'nt know what the hell to do.

And one question, without your leader being around all day, what do you all do?

[rockmayhem]

Maybe this isnt my place to say anything as im a new member to The Alliance but it seems to me that publicly berating someone goes against the values and mores of what this guild is about. This issue should have been adressed in a more private manner as in on the guild site or in pm. I would also like to suggest that IRL politics be left to real life. To me this is a place to escape the real world and bringing in politics can only add to more arguements that dont need to be discussed here.

[CrimsonTider]

Notice the lack of an encore appearance. I can not for the life of me understand the drastic increase of individuals coking onto forums to degrade others. Keep it in-game please!

With that said, I will leave everyone with a quote I tell my students when they are arguing: Save the drama for your momma! :)

[Ayc2000]

-.-
Wound doesn't have to be on to still hold the group together... if you really think that guilds need there leader to be on just make your own. Not trying to be mean or anything, but you should respect the fact that some people have school, homework, families, basically, a busy life. Remember: It's just a game. No one is obligated to go on, even if they are a guild leader or even if they are a GoA. This thread should be locked, no need to bring your opinions, especially these kinds of problems which point at one person, to the forums. Only leads to a flame war.
/endofrant

[Register]

Bahah nice quote Crimson XD

Wound cannot be on as much. He has other things to do. Being a GoA doesnt mean you make a guild and be on it 24/7. Being a GoA means you help the community.

I hope your not going to look for a guild with those sights. No guild leader would ever be on all the time. Especially now when people are going to school and doing other things.

Im in AoA and the guild almost never is just me. There is ALWAYS somebody to talk to.

Besides, why do you want Wound to be on more? To manage the guild? Thats what officers are for! And all members in general. Anybody can tell a spammer or somebody being inappropriate to be quiet.

[Redbridge]

LOL - I don't stand a chance......

Dear fellow community members,

I'm writing to you all to ask if it would it be ok if I decided (all by myself) how long I spend on PL.... I understand you would like to be involved in such an important matter but I'd like to present my case if that's ok.

My wife would like to see me sometimes.... (no accounting for taste).... my kids like to see me occasionally.... I work a 24/7 rota.... rock climb, scuba dive, and teach advanced motorcycling in my spare time.

If you still feel the need to have a say in the amount of time I spend on PL then please send me a PM directly outlining what you think I should do....... /sarcasm

REALLY? Is this really what the forums have descended to? OMG. It's good to see the a handful of sensible responses.

When fellow forum members are moaning about the policing of the forums that some senior member attempt to enforce to try and keep the standards up, this is a great example of why people try to point out, best they can, why threads like this simply don't work.... Not just because the OP didn't consider the impact (or an alternative better approach to communicating the issues they had with their old guild) but also the lack of thought and consideration that's gone into some of the responses.....

/rant

[Zaltiar]

And one question, without your leader being around all day, what do you all do?

The same thing we do everyday pinky. try to take over the world.
lol, no but. really, the exact same thing we do when we're without. do runs, check cs, pm people.
as said previously, there's no real reason guild leaders have to on 24/7 atm. and @post, thats obama's job, his full time job.
thats how he makes a living. now if i got paid rl money to be a guild leader. hell i'd be on 24/7 :)

[Zaltiar]

LOL - I don't stand a chance......

Dear fellow community members,

I'm writing to you all to ask if it would it be ok if I decided (all by myself) how long I spend on PL.... I understand you would like to be involved in such an important matter but I'd like to present my case if that's ok.

My wife would like to see me sometimes.... (no accounting for taste).... my kids like to see me occasionally.... I work a 24/7 rota.... rock climb, scuba dive, and teach advanced motorcycling in my spare time.

If you still feel the need to have a say in the amount of time I spend on PL then please send me a PM directly outlining what you think I should do....... /sarcasm

REALLY? Is this really what the forums have descended to? OMG. It's good to see the a handful of sensible responses.

When fellow forum members are moaning about the policing of the forums that some senior member attempt to enforce to try and keep the standards up, this is a great example of why people try to point out, best they can, why threads like this simply don't work.... Not just because the OP didn't consider the impact (or an alternative better approach to communicating the issues they had with their old guild) but also the lack of thought and consideration that's gone into some of the responses.....

/rant

pft, as if family/work/social life > PL.
no way. nu uh. *cough. :)

[Redbridge]

and @post, thats obama's job, his full time job.
thats how he makes a living. now if i got paid rl money to be a guild leader. hell i'd be on 24/7 :)

Exactly.... What a wicked job though, eh? PL not President.


pft, as if family/work/social life > PL.
no way. nu uh. *cough. :)

I agree.... but my wife is in charge in my house.... She's a Legend though...LOL

[Whirlzap]

I can confirm Woundys been on for a lot sometimes.
Its just real life problems. However to have guild you need to have a guild master that is qctive.
The other way is to have guild officers that are active firm and strong.

[Redbridge]

However to have guild you need to have a guild master that is qctive.
The other way is to have guild officers that are active firm and strong.

Exactly... +1.

A guild with an inactive guild leader can still be a great success with strong Officers and clear expectations set.

[Ellyidol]

The same thing we do everyday pinky. try to take over the world.
lol, no but. really, the exact same thing we do when we're without. do runs, check cs, pm people.
as said previously, there's no real reason guild leaders have to on 24/7 atm. and @post, thats obama's job, his full time job.
thats how he makes a living. now if i got paid rl money to be a guild leader. hell i'd be on 24/7 :)

Lol exactly! There's really nothing to manage unless that guild has some sort of dictatorship going on, where only the leader can invite/remove.

[Paar]

As u may not know most ppl are on SL right now! But Wound is a GoA and has a life! I mean if hes NOT on PL so much , How is he GoA , Well If u ask me its cuz he is a helpful and respectful person GM and Friend(: So Leave Wound alone!!!!

[Piosidon]

Lol "goof bye"

[xantor]

Dude like omg totally right. Like people should spend their whole free time, slash that, their life on pl. I mean, pft its not like there's anything else to do. I have 2 kids 5 and 1 a full time 44 a hour a week job. As well as being married and I still have time to get on game. Also in reply to mystical I'm not sayin he a bad goa by no means.I just expected better leadership.

[Piosidon]

Why don't you ask him why he's not always on?

[lethalchick]

I have 2 kids 5 and 1 a full time 44 a hour a week job. As well as being married and I still have time to get on game. Also in reply to mystical I'm not sayin he a bad goa by no means.I just expected better leadership.

You said you expected more from a GoA, thus he isn't as "good" of a goa as you want. That pretty much is saying he's a disappointing goa.

Also in terms of leadership, he has many trustworthy and highly integritable officers. Why would he need to be online and watch the guild all day when he has plenty of others already facilitating the guild?

[StompArtist]

This thread is goofy!

[Ayc2000]

This thread is goofy!
+1
this should just be locked...

[Battlelock]

Im gonna have to agree with Xantor. What would happen if Obama, the worst president in all of humanities leaders, decided to leave all the troops in afghanistan, or where ever the hell we're trying to 'take' over, and shut down any radio transmitions between the troops and the command center. They would'nt know what the hell to do.

And one question, without your leader being around all day, what do you all do?

Pretty sad when a country, president, military and REALITY are being compared to a guild, guild creator, and a digital fantasy world. Somebody's got reality & priorities all messed up.

Just saying.

[ScarecrowWolf]

Pretty sad when a country, president, military and REALITY are being compared to a guild, guild creator, and a digital fantasy world. Somebody's got reality & priorities all messed up.

Just saying.

Man you all have no backbone. Jk. Idk knoq where my posts come from. It just sounded funny to me so I threw it out there. Pl problems are so damn funny cause everyone makes pl sound like they're dealing with their partners in life. I say if pl is taking over your life that much then quit playing cause obviously you worry too much about whats going on in your cyber life.

I'll be here all week if anyone needs a negative attitude on their view. Thank you very much.

Yours truly, Negative

[Orcish]

Im gonna have to agree with Xantor. What would happen if Obama, the worst president in all of humanities leaders, decided to leave all the troops in afghanistan, or where ever the hell we're trying to 'take' over, and shut down any radio transmitions between the troops and the command center. They would'nt know what the hell to do.

And one question, without your leader being around all day, what do you all do?

That's why there's a command structure... I'm in the military so I have experience with this. If my commander just bailed it wouldn't effect the unit as much as you would think. Sure it would be a small bump but other senior officers would take up the reigns and move on. That's the whole reasoning behind a command structure in the first place, you never know who's going to get shoot, killed, or just put out of commission. Think of it this way when JFK was assassinated, did the United States fall and crumble? No it didn't, there are safety measures set in place should something like that happen. Even the most strict dictatorships have a command structure, they have to, there's no way around it.

Lol man the forums are getting more serious everyday. I really just need to step away lol.

[ScarecrowWolf]

Im gonna have to agree with Xantor. What would happen if Obama, the worst president in all of humanities leaders, decided to leave all the troops in afghanistan, or where ever the hell we're trying to 'take' over, and shut down any radio transmitions between the troops and the command center. They would'nt know what the hell to do.

And one question, without your leader being around all day, what do you all do?

That's why there's a command structure... I'm in the military so I have experience with this. If my commander just bailed it wouldn't effect the unit as much as you would think. Sure it would be a small bump but other senior officers would take up the reigns and move on. That's the whole reasoning behind a command structure in the first place, you never know who's going to get shoot, killed, or just put out of commission. Think of it this way when JFK was assassinated, did the United States fall and crumble? No it didn't, there are safety measures set in place should something like that happen. Even the most strict dictatorships have a command structure, they have to, there's no way around it.

Yea to put jfk's brother in command wasnt that great of a measure considering he got flat lined quick.

[ScarecrowWolf]

So know that we're talking about politics, aee we really out of this recesion? JK

Not a real question. Any 1 that post to this question is a banana.

[Orcish]

Yea to put jfk's brother in command wasnt that great of a measure considering he got flat lined quick.

I agree with you and yes it wasn't probably the best solution but there was still someone there to take up command, which was my whole point. That's why Woundedeagle has officers who support him just incase he can't be there. Granted to some extent, he should pop-in from time to time to checkup on his members but he can trust his officers enough(at least he should), that they can make sound decisions for the guild. I have ran many a guild/fleet/squad/team's and with all of them, I have built systems in place to provide a self sustaining organization and I feel most people should strive for this, that way it's more efficient with as little overhead as possible. I admit I take more of a relax stance in PL & SL due to it's casual environment. If anyone here wants to see a great command structure, take a look at my other organization at WWW.THEBIKINIBOTTOMARMADA.COM <----- OK so ya a little bit of a plug there lol. I would love to see some STS players join me in STO (Yeah OK I'm a nerd, got it lol).

Edit- If anyone is wondering, we have over 300+ members and growing not including alliances.

[IceShot210]

My guild leader hasn't been on all day

[Otukura]

This thread is goofy!

Gooooooooooooooooooooooofy.

http://images.pictureshunt.com/pics/g/goofy-4927.jpg

[Ayc2000]

That goofy looks weird...

[Zaltiar]

He's goofier than a goofy goober

[Ayc2000]

That's possible? :O

[Hankomachos]

I'm a goofey goober YEAH!
You're a goofy goober YEAH!
WE'RE ALL GOOFEY GOOBERS YEAH!!
Goofey goofey goofey goober YEAH!!!!!
Oh and everybody else said it perfectly so my input isn't needed. So ill summarize:
Don't flame people, wound has a life, redryder, you're hilarious and I'm a goofey goober. The end. :)

[ScarecrowWolf]

So how about that fruit cake.

Yyuuuummmmmmyyy!!!!

[Zaltiar]

goofy goober goofed up a goof of gooby goobers.
a goof of gooby goobers, goofy goofer goofed.
if goofy goober goofed up a goof of gooby goobers
wheres the goof of gooby goobers, goofy goober goofed?

if you can goof that up, then you'll be as a goofy as a goof can ever goof of!

[Ayc2000]

Whew, try saying that three times fast.

[Flowman]

GoA - 'helpful' members of the community...unless you make a comment against another GoA, then they'll do the exact things they go out of their way to scold you for.

As morfic already pointed out, quit "white knighting." A guild leader is supposed to be on more often. They shouldn't be the leader of a guild if they cannot stay active. There wasn't an actual guild function before...so no one cared really if the 'leader' wasn't active. I find it funny that you all come in here with the "life" argument. Seems that is everyone's go-to defense mode when defending other people. You want to know the reality? Most of the time, 'life' involves playing xbox instead. I've also seen people get super defensive after I make that comment, throwing out dramatic family problems or school problems that ended up being lies just to turn the tide. Not saying that's the case here, just that I've seen it.

I also find it funny that like 6 of you posted here. Any other guild/thread and there would be no replies at all. People leave guilds all the time because the leader isn't active enough.

[Navygreen]

Im gonna have to agree with Xantor. What would happen if Obama, the worst president in all of humanities leaders, decided to leave all the troops in afghanistan, or where ever the hell we're trying to 'take' over, and shut down any radio transmitions between the troops and the command center. They would'nt know what the hell to do.

And one question, without your leader being around all day, what do you all do?


huh??

[Matutd]

This is untrue wound is the best leader we could ask for. He does come online, and i know because i was talking to him the other day.
Also he does care about his members, rather than having me leave the SL version of our guild, he transfered leadership to me.
Is wound a bad guy? I THINK NOT!
so please either stop making bad threads about other members of the community, or just get off the forums.
I dont mean to be nasty here but wound is a good friend and a good leader.
if u dont have anything nice to say, then dont say nothing!

[Irulelol]

Well ive read through most of the comments and really all this thread has done is accomplish nothing but made the thread maker mad. Just stop giving him attention stop commenting and let him calm down so he can go do whatever he feels like doing whether its 5 hours pl or somethin in his real life.

[WoundedEagle]

Wooh. Just found this thread and to say the least, I am a bit shocked. I am trying to stay on guys and be a great leader. But you must remember, I am a 15 year old, in 10th grade who gets up at 5:45 a.m. every day and goes home at 3:00 P.m. I have a lot on my mind and lots of things to do. I already have stress like EVERYONE DOES and like Parth once told me, Don't stress about a Minor thing(something of that matter). I use to be active in the summer a whole lot. Yesterday, I found my childish side and started playing with Lego's again.... FAIL. Any ways, I try to do it. And Xantor if you have all that going on, you aren't stressed? I also have 2 little brothers who are always disrupting me, a paranoid mom who calls me everyday and flips out when I don't respond, the ability to purchase platinum with an iTunes card and try not to get caught, homework, one device for PL, a lagging Internet connection. But hey, I could blither excuses all day. I understand, and leave if you want it better. Just know, even if you leave, I am trying my hardest...


-we

[Wretch]

^------ that said it right there IMHO!

[Ayc2000]

+ 1

[Orcish]

Wound 1 JERKS 0

[TheGoACake]

What does "aoa" stand for? And why r u guys using my clans name? I'm the real GoA here...

[Wretch]

Alliance of Alterra

[Paar]

Wound = +100000!!!!!! Wound FTW!

[WoundedEagle]

GoA - 'helpful' members of the community...unless you make a comment against another GoA, then they'll do the exact things they go out of their way to scold you for.

As morfic already pointed out, quit "white knighting." A guild leader is supposed to be on more often. They shouldn't be the leader of a guild if they cannot stay active. There wasn't an actual guild function before...so no one cared really if the 'leader' wasn't active. I find it funny that you all come in here with the "life" argument. Seems that is everyone's go-to defense mode when defending other people. You want to know the reality? Most of the time, 'life' involves playing xbox instead. I've also seen people get super defensive after I make that comment, throwing out dramatic family problems or school problems that ended up being lies just to turn the tide. Not saying that's the case here, just that I've seen it.

I also find it funny that like 6 of you posted here. Any other guild/thread and there would be no replies at all. People leave guilds all the time because the leader isn't active enough.
Dude, no need to hate. I say that because it goes against others beliefs. Say you were in my situation. Don't want your friends to back you up? And @Most of the time, 'life' involves playing xbox instead, I sold my xbox to buy platinum... And I am not mad or anything, definitely not. You helped me a bit on forums and I respect that.

[Ayc2000]

WHoever posts after this is a goofy goober, and will always be known as a goofy goober. So don't post!!!!

[Otukura]

For your reference, Wound has been on for 6 minutes today, so far.

edit: of course, I'd post.

[Navygreen]

I think it boils down to this. You either want to be in a guild who's leader (GM) is constantly active and everyday for long periods of time, interacting, doing runs, playing the game, running the guild, etc., or you don't mind a somewhat inactive GM who, for the most part, relies on his/her officers to run the guild while he is not online. It's either or, so take your pick.

And although I won't take sides here, I think it's a good idea to remember, it's not always greener on the other side. It may be, but not always. From personal experiences, don't leave in a disrespectful or negative way and end up burning your bridges. Because when you leave and join another guild who's worse off than you think AoA is, good luck to you.

Who cares what the GM is doing in his time? Who cares if it's some life changing event going on or if he wants to play his xbox? When did we get the right to tell other people how to manage their time? Wounded purchased the guild with his own money. You coming in as members are benefiting from his purchase; from what he spent. Show some respect. And in the end, if you don't like it, take it up with leadership and leave. And let Wonded go to school and play xbox and have a girlfriend in his spare time. PL will be here when he returns as I'm sure AoA will be.

Sorry for the speech.

[WoundedEagle]

I think it boils down to this. You either want to be in a guild who's leader (GM) is constantly active and everyday for long periods of time, interacting, doing runs, playing the game, running the guild, etc., or you don't mind a somewhat inactive GM who, for the most part, relies on his/her officers to run the guild while he is not online. It's either or, so take your pick.

And although I won't take sides here, I think it's a good idea to remember, it's not always greener on the other side. It may be, but not always. From personal experiences, don't leave in a disrespectful or negative way and end up burning your bridges. Because when you leave and join another guild who's worse off than you think AoA is, good luck to you.
Literally, you always know what to say Navy.

[Matutd]

whoever posts after this is a goofy goober, and will always be known as a goofy goober. So don't post!!!!
im a goofy goober

[Otukura]

Wound, just saying, there's an "Alliance of Alterra", and a "The Alliance" in PL. Is one a copy?

[nazgulking]

Just leave my Master Wound alone!
He is having a real life and if you can stand that he has other importat things to do, just leave the guild, we won't miss you.
That's the exact reason why I don't join guilds usually, because a lot of members want you to donate 100% of your life to a game and that is completely wrong.
His guild is one of the few ones that doesn't requires you to join weekly meetings to not be kicked out or other non-sensed rules that i''ve seen in many guilds here.
I am myself taking a little break and no one is "OMG we needz to kick him out! He is not giving 100% to the guildz!!!!".
Come on guys this is a game. Let it be like that. We are not sentencing anyone to death for not beign at least 30 minutes in the game everyday.
This is getting ridiculous.
BTW Wound you have all my support.

[WoundedEagle]

Wound, just saying, there's an "Alliance of Alterra", and a "The Alliance" in PL. Is one a copy?
Wow really?
Must... find.... leader.....

[Matutd]

Wound, just saying, there's an "Alliance of Alterra", and a "The Alliance" in PL. Is one a copy?
Alliance of Alterra is the real one

[Flowman]

Can't do anything about a guild called "The Alliance"...alliance isn't a creative term. Same thing with the guys who had Star Legends and Star Legends Guild or something like that in SL. Can't claim a word because your guild uses it.

[WoundedEagle]

Not 6 hours, but at the very, very, least 30 minutes a day. You should at least be able to command it or let someone be the leader until you get back on.
On for over 2 hours in time increments... I also have an alternate - Cyanceus

[Matutd]

On for over 2 hours in time increments... I also have an alternate - Cyanceus
I think ive just been obline with u for OVER 2 hours :)

[Vegetaz]

Thread is hilarious.

[BodMaster]

Okay this thread is quite unbelievable, the first person to post should have voiced that they would of liked that xantor‎ to PM wounded and voiced his opinions through PM messaging not publicly /End of.

Though I understand the need you all had felt the to protect your leader/guild/friend, alot of the memebrs of AoA are well known Senior Members, Guardians etc. and the behaviour of some of the members throughout this thread was quite disturbing/disappointing. I could only read up to 2 pages in before I had to stop.

This became everything that a thread should not, flaming (no constructive critisism just flame), trolling and just in whole quite disrespectful. (everything that is against the rules to post within STS forums)

Memebers should want to look up to people like yourselves (Im guessing thats why you have become Guardians etc) Now wonder why I had ever wanted to become a Guardian/Gaurd if this is the kind of behaviour it includes, saying that dont get me wrong theit are alot of Guardians that I know or know of and respect them throughly.

I know this will not get me any browny points or may even change the opinion of what people think of myself (to members that know me or of me), but I do hope that people that read this and respect why I am posting, and also what kind of behaviour I and all other new/old members expect from you guys.

But I am one and you are many, so if you do not agree with what I have said I will respect that also.

Can we just move on though? this subject needs to be laid to rest. (Though the banter parts in the thread were pretty funny its not role-model like)

P.S. ON-TOPIC: @xantor‎

Hope you find a Guild that suits your morals/gameplay and by the end of it happy in your decision to quit.

In the future I hope if you ever find yourself in this position again, please voice your opinion to Officers/GM through private messaging to aviod this sort of flaming.

All the best in the near future!

[Samhayne]

Okay this thread is quite unbelievable, the first person to post should have voiced that they would of liked that xantor‎ to PM wounded and voiced his opinions through PM messaging not publicly /End of.

Yup. Take it to PM's or Tells.

Thread closed.