Tradeable Rename Kits

[AsHwín MP]

Don't you all think it would be cool if it is implemented?
So that non-plat users can also change names.. :)

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[ForgottenWarrior]

This means you are involved in ign tradind/stocking anyways it may not happen because there will be a lot more scammers in arlor than ever.

[Amicusdei]

This means you are involved in ign tradind/stocking anyways it may not happen because there will be a lot more scammers in arlor than ever.

Quite an accusation.
Its not possible that he got a cool name during the release and now would like to use it?
Not everyone can or does buy platinum.

[AsHwín MP]

This means you are involved in ign tradind/stocking anyways it may not happen because there will be a lot more scammers in arlor than ever.
Look.. I don't have any cool names with me as u said. And not everyone can buy plats too. Ty

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[AsHwín MP]

Bump...

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[Potato is me]

Hi sts, a handful of people and I had been trying to propose this idea for a long time now, and things about naming are getting a little out of hand.

The main problem now:

IT IS AGAINST THE TOS TO USE 3RD PARTY SOFTWARE BUT OFTEN IT IS HARD TO DETECT

I am referring to macro users sniping any names about to be changed within milliseconds...
Right now, this is where STS will lose out their profit chance from plat renaming because macro users will create a new character and auto reserve those released names through sniping without having to spend plat while plat users who wants to change their reserved names get sniped and are unable to spend their plats on renaming even if they want to.

It would be awesome if you can detect these macro users and give them a perma ban on their ip address but the difficulty in detecting such activity is really high as you need a new level of programming to do so

The other problems are:

Name trading

Many people who reserve the name are there for the profits, though there are people who reserve the names for use, but there are also those who could care less about names but love gold.

SCAMS

This leads to scam cases around even until now although STS announce a ban on name traders.

People just want names and/or gold, and it is a good opportunity for both players and STS to benefit from this proposed solution


MAIN IDEA OF THIS THREAD:

Tradable Name Kits!

Yes, it is not a new idea at all, over the years of playing, i have seen people (I myself included) propose for this to be implemented
It is a simple tool which will benefit the entire community, players and STS
We can spend 30 plats on a rename, the previous ign will be turned into a name chest example: (Name Kit : Potato)
which can be tradable and stashable
By opening the chest on a character would instantly rename that character into "Potato" while their previous ign will be deleted.
Therefore if they want to change from a nice name like "God" into "potato" they will spend another 30 plats to reserve "God" \
Hence this will be a 60 plats transaction. Furthermore it solves the problem of scam cases and people using 3rd party software to exploit the game

I can't think of a better solution than this to solve the current situation, any inputs will be welcomed

[Elshaddoll]

This means you are involved in ign tradind/stocking anyways it may not happen because there will be a lot more scammers in arlor than ever.
You can already rename using plat, he just wants it to be for non plat buyers too ._.

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[gunlet]

A tradable rename kit which only pays rename 30 plat fees not the stocked name ..

Respect scroll kit indirectly pays 5plat fees for resetting skills .. They don't give a pre set of skills..u have to choose ur skills...it only pays plat fees.

Keys pays plat fees of opening locks...they don't provide you fixed sns or mm... They only pays plat fees...

Yesterday. I posted idea of rename kits and it was taken soooo wrong in a post...

[gunlet]

-.-
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[Visiting]

You're a potato, I'm a potato, we're potatoes.

[AsHwín MP]

A tradable rename kit which only pays rename 30 plat fees not the stocked name ..

Respect scroll kit indirectly pays 5plat fees for resetting skills .. They don't give a pre set of skills..u have to choose ur skills...it only pays plat fees.

Keys pays plat fees of opening locks...they don't provide you fixed sns or mm... They only pays plat fees...

Yesterday. I posted idea of rename kits and it was taken soooo wrong in a post...
True , the plat users can buy them using plat and non users can buy them from them using gold

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[codered]

Instead of rename kit, why dont sts implement the plat kit , i guess it would simplify the whole thing, respec, crate key, etc ,,,plat buyer can convert their plat into kit like 10-50 plat per kit , non plat buyer can now plat their way through , another crazy idea lol

[New - RK]

i like ur idea, this idea better than tradeable name kits, imo.

hope this idea will be implemented in next expansion or soon.

[tasakli]

What about: let's be original and choose our names by ourselves so we all have our own unique names and don't care about the people who buy names because who cares because names doesn't make you stronger, so buy armor instead of names. #armorovernames

[dinzly]

but why tradable???let me take a guess, you hv been hoarding lots of names there and you need to find a way to legalize name trading and get profit without risk being banned

[Ardbeg]

Name selling is a bannable offense. Why would sts implement a mechanism to support it suddenly? Because hoarders really really really wish it?

[dinzly]

all of sudden there comes ppl with such brilliant ideas to make a TRADABLE NAME KITS after we all know some players just hoarded tons of old names and wanna sell it

[Ronesg]

You're a potato, I'm a potato, we're potatoes.

Let's start a potato ceremony xD

[Mouly]

Name selling is a bannable offense. Why would sts implement a mechanism to support it suddenly? Because hoarders really really really wish it?

Well you are partly right Ardbeg and there are several more benefits of legalizing name trading.

First off, while hoarders would benefit monetarily from legalization, so will all the people interested in buying a name but instead in terms of increased satisfaction. So there's obviously a demand on both sides as we've seen the last couple of days. Second off, it should be in your interest too no matter if you're interested in trading names or not. This is due to company resources being spent on investigating scams, rolling back names, communicating the issue with the customer base, looking for a solution, trying to maintain reputation and so on. Ask yourself, when you support the development of the game by buying platinum, do you really want your money to go towards such activities? Or do you want your money to go towards new campaigns, new events and new content? Tradeable names do not only benefit the minority you are speaking of, it's a solution that benefits everyone.

EDIT: My theory is that, in early stages of the game, the developers didn't find this feature would add any value to the game experience and therefore didn't dedicate any resources to it. The simple solution was to prohibit it. With time names have become a sought after cosmetic phenomenon, just like vanities, but old development decisions have remained. This created a black market which today requires more attention and resources than actually developing a functional trade system for names.

[Ardbeg]

Well you are partly right Ardbeg and there are several more benefits of legalizing name trading.

First off, while hoarders would benefit monetarily from legalization, so will all the people interested in buying a name but instead in terms of increased satisfaction. So there's obviously a demand on both sides as we've seen the last couple of days. Second off, it should be in your interest too no matter if you're interested in trading names or not. This is due to company resources being spent on investigating scams, rolling back names, communicating the issue with the customer base, looking for a solution, trying to maintain reputation and so on. Ask yourself, when you support the development of the game by buying platinum, do you really want your money to go towards such activities? Or do you want your money to go towards new campaigns, new events and new content? Tradeable names do not only benefit the minority you are speaking of, it's a solution that benefits everyone.

EDIT: My theory is that, in early stages of the game, the developers didn't find this feature would add any value to the game experience and therefore didn't dedicate any resources to it. The simple solution was to prohibit it. With time names have become a sought after cosmetic phenomenon, just like vanities, but old development decisions have remained. This created a black market which today requires more attention and resources than actually developing a functional trade system for names.

Let the hoarders win, because it's too much hazzle to deal with them? What about the injustice, old players taking advantage over new players, just swallow that? What message is that sending out? Should we all stop running maps and just wait for glitches and exploits here and script bots? No thanks!

[Probationer]

I swear since I mentioned this ages ago on forums people keep making threads on it.

[Mouly]

I swear since I mentioned this ages ago on forums people keep making threads on it.

Well doesn't it make you happy seeing that people support it then, Sam?

[Potato is me]

Name selling is a bannable offense. Why would sts implement a mechanism to support it suddenly? Because hoarders really really really wish it?

Lol, sit down and really think for a moment, why is name trading a bannable offense? Sts doesnt just come up one fine day and decide no, trading of names should lead to ban

They are not kids who do things without reason, i thought u play this game long enough to know?

They ban people trading names because such activities lead to scam and thus chaos among the community.

By making tradable kits, Like (Name Kit: Ardbeg) scam will no longer arise, if you want to sell name, there will now be a legit way to do so.

Dont think of everyone as selfish people and you are the only saint, Altho tradable kits will benefit hoarders in the short term now but in the long term everyone will benefit

The only people crying now are those who missed or refuse to get some names during event and turned worst off because they never earn much gold. Or just want to hold on to the believe traditiinal way of farming should be the only avenue for gold.

If you can think of a better idea to solve scam, be my guest but doing nothing and letting this madness continue is avoiding the problem.

Scams here snipes there, bans here no bans there, all these have to stop. Think about it

[epicrrr]

No name kit!

Why push and fight for this to go through? Cuz you or your guildy or many of your friends got many name to sell? Like the 1 word vanity names?

[Ardbeg]

Lol, sit down and really think for a moment, why is name trading a bannable offense? Sts doesnt just come up one fine day and decide no, trading of names should lead to ban

They are not kids who do things without reason, i thought u play this game long enough to know?

They ban people trading names because such activities lead to scam and thus chaos among the community.

By making tradable kits, Like (Name Kit: Ardbeg) scam will no longer arise, if you want to sell name, there will now be a legit way to do so.

Dont think of everyone as selfish people and you are the only saint, Altho tradable kits will benefit hoarders in the short term now but in the long term everyone will benefit

The only people crying now are those who missed or refuse to get some names during event and turned worst off because they never earn much gold. Or just want to hold on to the believe traditiinal way of farming should be the only avenue for gold.

If you can think of a better idea to solve scam, be my guest but doing nothing and letting this madness continue is avoiding the problem.

Scams here snipes there, bans here no bans there, all these have to stop. Think about it

You can try to justify it as much as you want. This just unfairly distributes gold and gives the middlefinger to new players.
There should not be a legit way to sell names, since it s against TOS in the first place. And like in the times of heavy plat farming, cheaters get a big advantage over honest players. There is no way you can spin this to me as a good thing, it is utterly selfish and unfair.

[New - RK]

selling name is bannable offense ofc

this thread is about tradeable rename kits, kits which pays 30 plat just to rename your character. only that!
not everyone can buy platinum. free offer sometimes not give platinum if we have done download that offer in the past.
seem like too many negative thing come from this idea rather that positive thing.

yeah maybe i must find another way to get plat, maybe like open lock with key. ofc that will cost more gold. lol

[Avaree]

Lol, sit down and really think for a moment, why is name trading a bannable offense? Sts doesnt just come up one fine day and decide no, trading of names should lead to ban

They are not kids who do things without reason, i thought u play this game long enough to know?

They ban people trading names because such activities lead to scam and thus chaos among the community.

By making tradable kits, Like (Name Kit: Ardbeg) scam will no longer arise, if you want to sell name, there will now be a legit way to do so.

Dont think of everyone as selfish people and you are the only saint, Altho tradable kits will benefit hoarders in the short term now but in the long term everyone will benefit

The only people crying now are those who missed or refuse to get some names during event and turned worst off because they never earn much gold. Or just want to hold on to the believe traditiinal way of farming should be the only avenue for gold.

If you can think of a better idea to solve scam, be my guest but doing nothing and letting this madness continue is avoiding the problem.

Scams here snipes there, bans here no bans there, all these have to stop. Think about it

The only way to prevent scams is to perma assign names to the email registered with the game. Once the account is registered "Avaree", any additional characters added would receive the main name with a number behind it, e.g. "Avaree2,"Avaree3" so on and so forth. This would free up any future issues with sniping softwares, also make tracking a scammer much easier, botting, & exploits. Yes some have multiple devices and can make multiple acounts, but still this could simplify any future issues.

Also name trading kits will still get scammed, look at the lunar/lep, blinky/blight, cryoworm 52/54, scams.......

Name trading kits only promote and allow profit off another exploitation of this game.

For those wanting a special name, remember its not the name who makes your character stand out, its the person behind the toon.

[EbenevTheMage]

Hey folks!

I just have an idea about how if devs release "Character Renaming Kits" which is can be purchase by plats on store and ofcourse it tradeable, so for non-plat players would be able to buy it for some golds by trade or from auction house.

So once we use this kit, we can rename our IGN with our desired or unique name, and our previous name will be free to use by other players.

I think this will bring more fun into the game, this will be the chance to everyone to get their desired IGN, especially for non-plat users.

So what do you think guys? Feel free to comment and give feedback.

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[AsHwín MP]

+100 . Pls consider this. This is not to cause any abuse. We non play players also want to get good names..

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[Schnitzel]

Ehh i see one flaw to this..

Scammers can make a lot of gold,
then buy a bunch of rename kits,
rename, and keep scamming

As awesome an idea as it sounds,
there's always going to be someone to ruin the fun

[Avaree]

Hey folks!

I just have an idea about how if devs release "Character Renaming Kits" which is can be purchase by plats on store and ofcourse it tradeable, so for non-plat players would be able to buy it for some golds by trade or from auction house.

So once we use this kit, we can rename our IGN with our desired or unique name, and our previous name will be free to use by other players.

I think this will bring more fun into the game, this will be the chance to everyone to get their desired IGN, especially for non-plat users.

So what do you think guys? Feel free to comment and give feedback.

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Another made a similar post..

http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?374173-Tradeable-Rename-Kits

name trading kits will still get scammed, look at the lunar/lep, blinky/blight, cryoworm 52/54, scams.......

Name trading kits only promote and allow profit off another exploitation of this game.

For those wanting a special name, remember its not the name who makes your character stand out, its the person behind the toon.

[Ravintov]

"For those wanting a special name, remember its not the name who makes your character stand out, its the person behind the toon."

wow, +100 for this.. #saynotobuyign

[herculeans]

Hey folks!

I just have an idea about how if devs release "Character Renaming Kits" which is can be purchase by plats on store and ofcourse it tradeable, so for non-plat players would be able to buy it for some golds by trade or from auction house.

So once we use this kit, we can rename our IGN with our desired or unique name, and our previous name will be free to use by other players.

I think this will bring more fun into the game, this will be the chance to everyone to get their desired IGN, especially for non-plat users.

So what do you think guys? Feel free to comment and give feedback.

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Name hoarder detected

[EbenevTheMage]

Well, i have another ideas to avoid scamming issues on the future :

Once you purchase & use the kit, u are not just able to rename ur IGN, but also u can store it to the kit, 1 kit = 1 IGN. So next time if u want to change it, u have to purchase new kit, put a new IGN, n replace the previous kit with the new one.

And u still can keep the firts kit which stored ur first IGN on ur inventory slot, or even u can sell or trade ur kit which contains ur first IGN via trade or auction.

I think this will good for AL economy since a poor player can create a unique IGN and sell for some good golds.
So with this way, i think trading name will be safe, and reduce the scammer.

Once again, i still need ur comment, idea, n feedback.

Feel free to reply [emoji4]

-Ebenev

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[Schnitzel]

Well, i have another ideas to avoid scamming issues on the future :

Once you purchase & use the kit, u are not just able to rename ur IGN, but also u can store it to the kit, 1 kit = 1 IGN. So next time if u want to change it, u have to purchase new kit, put a new IGN, n replace the previous kit with the new one.

And u still can keep the firts kit which stored ur first IGN on ur inventory slot, or even u can sell or trade ur kit which contains ur first IGN via trade or auction.

I think this will good for AL economy since a poor player can create a unique IGN and sell for some good golds.
So with this way, i think trading name will be safe, and reduce the scammer.

Once again, i still need ur comment, idea, n feedback.

Feel free to reply [emoji4]

-Ebenev

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I dunno whether to point out the flaw(s) or not..
Name hording leading to lack of available names
Scammers can use the stolen money to buy new name kits, assuming having at least 2 character slots, can delete one character, use name kit for the new character, rinse and repeat

[Avaree]

Well, i have another ideas to avoid scamming issues on the future :

Once you purchase & use the kit, u are not just able to rename ur IGN, but also u can store it to the kit, 1 kit = 1 IGN. So next time if u want to change it, u have to purchase new kit, put a new IGN, n replace the previous kit with the new one.

And u still can keep the firts kit which stored ur first IGN on ur inventory slot, or even u can sell or trade ur kit which contains ur first IGN via trade or auction.

I think this will good for AL economy since a poor player can create a unique IGN and sell for some good golds.
So with this way, i think trading name will be safe, and reduce the scammer.

Once again, i still need ur comment, idea, n feedback.

Feel free to reply [emoji4]

-Ebenev

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Selling names is not allowed.
Next your group of "let's make name trade tag kits" will want to re-write the terms of service.

[gunlet]

Why people getting energetic once they see word " ReName kit"

Just have a break n see half of them are asking for only plat paying kit "WHICH DON'T CONTAIN ANY NAME IN IT"

If we say Lock opening kit, does it means Kit with fixed sns? No its called keys which only pays plat fees....

Many are demanding only a kit by using which they can rename their toon with that new name which they have in mind...

And kit with stocked name is very bad idea... Cos rich march can stock all good names like stocked locks....
So NO TO KITS WHICH STOCKS NAMES
And YES FOR KITS WHICH ONLY PAYS RENAME 30 PLAT FEES

[Potato is me]

Easy idea
After renaming a char for 30 plats, they get the option to preserve their previous name in a chest for another 30 plats
The chest will be shown as (Name Kit: (Previous IGN))
Opening will delete your current ign and change it to the one in the chest

Problems

-1 This idea will make who have 3/4 letter name will be rich . Why must sell name ? Want attention from ppl ? Name buff your stat ? Sell name is good way to gain more gold ? I dont see any online game allow selling name .

1. Many people who hoarded names are already earning a lot of gold already anyways, and they might be richer without this chest, why? because they can scam names and reuse that same name to keep scamming people
2. Name is just like vanity, vanity doesn't give stats, but they are the most expensive items in game.


Did u see any games allow selling name at their game ? Dont have gold now and that why u make this idea to give you gold because u have some name that you think nice name ? About scams , STS already tell us "SELLING NAME IS NOT ALLOWED" ingame . So you still want to break ToS ? You buy name from scammer and then you got scam , that your problem .

Selling names is against the ToS because it makes people susceptible to scamming, with this kit, it will make name selling legit.

Not aiming at errorrz for this, just using his quotes because they cover majority of the more productive and legit points for arguments.

I would like to keep this thread clean, if you want to argue with it, be sure to provide a well thought out reasoning, we are civilised people, offensive words like "Stupid" and "idiot" only degrades the person using such words because it shows that he is out of reasons and can only resort to insults.

[Ardbeg]

This might be a wide stretch for you, but just try this thought experiment: Selling names is not only against TOS because of the risk of scamming, but also because of the unfairness involved. Of Course the devs have the last word on this and we both are speculating about the intention, but hey, they forbidd it, and you can get banned for it.
The intended use for a name is imho: use it or release it! No matter how often you repeat your desire to sell your names without the risk of getting banned and how much you try to paint it as if only the possible scams were your concern. You asked to keep this thread clean, but you polluted it at start with your selfish wish to legalize the name exploit. The Hypocrisy level of this thread just went through the roof.

[eugene9707]

What's up with the boom of "ideas" for name trading ? Especially AFTER the release of old name.
I'm sure this is PURELY coincidental and have NOTHING AT ALL to do with making money from horded names.

Also, this is essentially promoting name selling and hoarding.

Not to mention, once this is available, it'd unlock a new form of name hoarding.
For example, if i know people want "potato", and if they can't get it , they'd go for "potatoo" or "potatooo", or "xpotatox" or anything of that sort. So then i buy and reserved all of that, so i can sell these "second best" to them at a "cheaper price" if they aren't willing to pay the 10m for "potato".

I think this will just make the "lack of decent name" issue for new player worse

[Suentous PO]

I don't get y ppl get so worked up no matter which side of the fence theyre on.
Anyway
@ Potato - you can guess what sts thinks of an idea generally by how they react.
Past few days there have been several variations of this idea of legitimizing name trades, couple things happen;
1: thread disapears - surest sign of disapproval by sts
2: thread lock - another "no"
3: moved to suggestions - a kinder "no" (ignored)

Now see that one thread a guy suggests a hard core mode of play with no plat and 2 devs chimed in. That's how you know it's of interest.
So you can guess what sts thinks of this by their silence. - imho

And to some of the responders to these ideas (not just here);
Why presume people are just trying to do something wrong? Who is handing out these hall monitor jobs?
Honestly a lot of times I see suggestion threads I just think some posters ( not directed at op) are just looking for someone to give them a pat on the back for an idea not take over the black market and kill puppies.

Some ppl just lost their damn minds lately

[EbenevTheMage]

+100

for the one who have a brilliant idea, able to see things clearly, and try to find out the solutions for the problems.

two thumbs up or you Sir!

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[Potato is me]

This might be a wide stretch for you, but just try this thought experiment: Selling names is not only against TOS because of the risk of scamming, but also because of the unfairness involved. Of Course the devs have the last word on this and we both are speculating about the intention, but hey, they forbidd it, and you can get banned for it.
The intended use for a name is imho: use it or release it! No matter how often you repeat your desire to sell your names without the risk of getting banned and how much you try to paint it as if only the possible scams were your concern. You asked to keep this thread clean, but you polluted it at start with your selfish wish to legalize the name exploit. The Hypocrisy level of this thread just went through the roof.

The fact is that selling name was not interfered by the dev before this event, they stated that you can sell or buy names but they will not entertain any scam reports pertaining it. Another fun fact for you, people who gets banned are only banned for a measly 3 days, so whats the use of the ban if after 3 days, scammers get back to scamming, legit sellers get on with their activities?

You are really honest, if everyone thinks like you, its perfect, use it or release it? doesn't happen in this community, its Use it or HOARD it.
And to get things straight, I do not intend to sell any names, you are attacking me based on false assumptions.
1. Name isn't an exploit if there isn't scamming involved
2. People are selfish, thats a fact, if you aren't selfish yourself, you wouldn't be against this, why? because you hate the fact that people are earning gold in an "unfair" manner which levels them to the same playing field as you. And because people are selfish, they will not just release igns that they don't need
3. Doing this is for the community, you are probably ignorant of certain things happening around like people using macro to snipe names.

It's (Lag) occurring because many people are spamming macros on the new character screen attempting to take names.
I recently got hold of some ss of people admitting and showing off that they are using macro too
By releasing name kits, macro will be rendered useless
4. If you are unhappy about people getting rich from this, sts can set a price ceiling on the name kits, 1m is the max you can list for it on cs.
5. This must be highlighted again and again : WITHOUT THIS KIT, NAME SELLERS WILL BE RICHER BECAUSE THEY CAN REUSE THEIR NAMES FOR SCAMS!
- Let me give you an example if you can't comprehend this profound logic:
I sell the name Ardbeg, without name kit, i show them Ardbeg in game, they believe that i have the name, the give 500 k for it, i take the money and i leave, i go to another person and do the same thing, i get 1 m and i still have the name

With name kit, i sell ardbeg for 500k, they take the kit, i take the money, good deal, i earn 500k, i don't have ardbeg anymore, make sense?

[Zeus]

The fact is that selling name was not interfered by the dev before this event, they stated that you can sell or buy names but they will not entertain any scam reports pertaining it. Another fun fact for you, people who gets banned are only banned for a measly 3 days, so whats the use of the ban if after 3 days, scammers get back to scamming, legit sellers get on with their activities?

You are really honest, if everyone thinks like you, its perfect, use it or release it? doesn't happen in this community, its Use it or HOARD it.
And to get things straight, I do not intend to sell any names, you are attacking me based on false assumptions.
1. Name isn't an exploit if there isn't scamming involved
2. People are selfish, thats a fact, if you aren't selfish yourself, you wouldn't be against this, why? because you hate the fact that people are earning gold in an "unfair" manner which levels them to the same playing field as you. And because people are selfish, they will not just release igns that they don't need
3. Doing this is for the community, you are probably ignorant of certain things happening around like people using macro to snipe names.

I recently got hold of some ss of people admitting and showing off that they are using macro too
By releasing name kits, macro will be rendered useless
4. If you are unhappy about people getting rich from this, sts can set a price ceiling on the name kits, 1m is the max you can list for it on cs.
5. This must be highlighted again and again : WITHOUT THIS KIT, NAME SELLERS WILL BE RICHER BECAUSE THEY CAN REUSE THEIR NAMES FOR SCAMS!
- Let me give you an example if you can't comprehend this profound logic:
I sell the name Ardbeg, without name kit, i show them Ardbeg in game, they believe that i have the name, the give 500 k for it, i take the money and i leave, i go to another person and do the same thing, i get 1 m and i still have the name

With name kit, i sell ardbeg for 500k, they take the kit, i take the money, good deal, i earn 500k, i don't have ardbeg anymore, make sense?

I have a video of it but the last thing I want to do is post it and then people accuse me of doing it, because I do not. I just want it to be fixed. The fact is that spamming that screen in that way is causing unnecessary stress on servers. It's more accounts on at any given time and it's more direct requests to the server.

What most people do is use multiple chrome windows and then spam the macro on it. However, there's an easy fix to it that does not involve rename kits. What developers can do is change the way the rename function works. Thus, if the rename fails, one should be forced to enter in another name. It should not allow you to try the same name again (which is what leads to the spamming).

[Potato is me]

I don't get y ppl get so worked up no matter which side of the fence theyre on.
Anyway
@ Potato - you can guess what sts thinks of an idea generally by how they react.
Past few days there have been several variations of this idea of legitimizing name trades, couple things happen;
1: thread disapears - surest sign of disapproval by sts
2: thread lock - another "no"
3: moved to suggestions - a kinder "no" (ignored)

Now see that one thread a guy suggests a hard core mode of play with no plat and 2 devs chimed in. That's how you know it's of interest.
So you can guess what sts thinks of this by their silence. - imho

And to some of the responders to these ideas (not just here);
Why presume people are just trying to do something wrong? Who is handing out these hall monitor jobs?
Honestly a lot of times I see suggestion threads I just think some posters ( not directed at op) are just looking for someone to give them a pat on the back for an idea not take over the black market and kill puppies.

Some ppl just lost their damn minds lately


its simple, people who get nice names wish to makes something out of it, people who missed the event or didn't find the event useful at all rage because they can't earn gold or feel disadvantaged because they underestimated the power of vanity which is actually the main crux of every rpg games : To look good

Yes, actually many players, me included have been trying to request for this a long time now, even before the event, hoping each time that our post can convince the dev.

It might be a foolish attempt to some people, but at least we tried.

It is ok if they responded with their own reasoning and point of view like ardbeg did, but yea it gets annoying when they start making false assumptions, it can't be helped tho because most people, myself included, will get overwhelmed with emotions when fighting for something we believe in

[Potato is me]

I have a video of it but the last thing I want to do is post it and then people accuse me of doing it, because I do not. I just want it to be fixed. The fact is that spamming that screen in that way is causing unnecessary stress on servers. It's more accounts on at any given time and it's more direct requests to the server.

What most people do is use multiple chrome windows and then spam the macro on it. However, there's an easy fix to it that does not involve rename kits. What developers can do is change the way the rename function works. Thus, if the rename fails, one should be forced to enter in another name. It should not allow you to try the same name again (which is what leads to the spamming).

Thanks for the input! yes the biggest problem over here is usage of macro because it not only leads to people getting robbed of their names and also a huge lag in server, there is a video about zephy playing as mage, and we can see that one moment he is safely behind a wall the next moment he teleports into the clash zone and is dead. Mind you, his connection seems to be top performing from most of the videos i watched. I have encountered such lags too on some occasions and tho it might not matter much in pve, but one player's death can be a game changer to the entire team in pve

[Zeus]

its simple, people who get nice names wish to makes something out of it, people who missed the event or didn't find the event useful at all rage because they can't earn gold or feel disadvantaged because they underestimated the power of vanity which is actually the main crux of every rpg games : To look good

Yes, actually many players, me included have been trying to request for this a long time now, even before the event, hoping each time that our post can convince the dev.

It might be a foolish attempt to some people, but at least we tried.

It is ok if they responded with their own reasoning and point of view like ardbeg did, but yea it gets annoying when they start making false assumptions, it can't be helped tho because most people, myself included, will get overwhelmed with emotions when fighting for something we believe in

Here's the link...and it's so simple to get one of these too. You do not need to have any technical knowledge. Even if an honest player gets a good name, they will lose it to a person who is doing this. This has actually happened in the past before too but now it's being done on a much larger scale.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luLBRvUwezA

[Safiras]

STS should never aim to monetize name trading. It has been an illegal activity from the start and should remain that way. Whatever they did to release all those names they already said it was a mistake. Stop looking for ways to capitalize on something that was not intended. All name trading activity should be stamped out period, not encouraged with this name kits suggestion.

[Zeus]

STS should never aim to monetize name trading. It has been an illegal activity from the start and should remain that way. Whatever they did to release all those names they already said it was a mistake. Stop looking for ways to capitalize on something that was not intended. All name trading activity should be stamped out period, not encouraged with this name kits suggestion.

I do agree that there should not be name kits, but look at my video and then fathom how much stress this would put on the server if hundreds of players were doing this. And yes, this isn't something that's uncommon but actually something many players are doing.

Perhaps, STG can change the way the character creation screen works. Because currently, it is very macro friendly. AGAIN, this is just a demonstration and I do NOT do this. I am just clarifying with video because many do not seem to understand what is happening.

[Suentous PO]

STS should never aim to monetize name trading. It has been an illegal activity from the start and should remain that way. Whatever they did to release all those names they already said it was a mistake. Stop looking for ways to capitalize on something that was not intended. All name trading activity should be stamped out period, not encouraged with this name kits suggestion.

Another way to look at it as opposed to "looking for a way to capitalize" might be that some of these ideas are trying to either cripple the black market of names, or that someone might want to eliminate macro jerks who cause lag.
More than one way to think of it.

Edit- Parth ninjad, ima get off the forums, he's prolly on the same page as me

[Zeus]

Another way to look at it as opposed to "looking for a way to capitalize" might be that some of these ideas are trying to either cripple the black market of names, or that someone might want to eliminate macro jerks who cause lag.
More than one way to think of it.

Yes, agreed. I do not think he's trying to capitalize. Therefore, I think my suggestion works out a bit more for everyone.

[Avaree]

STS should never aim to monetize name trading. It has been an illegal activity from the start and should remain that way. Whatever they did to release all those names they already said it was a mistake. Stop looking for ways to capitalize on something that was not intended. All name trading activity should be stamped out period, not encouraged with this name kits suggestion.

+1m im out of thanks,

We all do know why this group of players want names availible for trade.
Too capitalize off an explotatation never intended to be exploited. Devs already expressed that name trading was against tos, so why push the issue????

[Zeus]

+1m im out of thanks,

We all do know why this group of players want names availible for trade.
Too capitalize off an explotatation never intended to be exploited. Devs already expressed that name trading eas against tos, so why push the issue????

Please look at my link - it's causing lag in game. I do not want name kits because of reasons you stated but I do want a fix for what my video is demonstrating. Ever since the name event weekend, this lag has been present and has been substantial. I also know that it is not my connection that is causing this lag.

I think it will be a more pragmatic solution for everybody and should be something nobody has a problem with unless, of course, they do what my video is describing.

[Ardbeg]

The fact is that selling name was not interfered by the dev before this event, they stated that you can sell or buy names but they will not entertain any scam reports pertaining it. Another fun fact for you, people who gets banned are only banned for a measly 3 days, so whats the use of the ban if after 3 days, scammers get back to scamming, legit sellers get on with their activities?

You are really honest, if everyone thinks like you, its perfect, use it or release it? doesn't happen in this community, its Use it or HOARD it.
And to get things straight, I do not intend to sell any names, you are attacking me based on false assumptions.
1. Name isn't an exploit if there isn't scamming involved
2. People are selfish, thats a fact, if you aren't selfish yourself, you wouldn't be against this, why? because you hate the fact that people are earning gold in an "unfair" manner which levels them to the same playing field as you. And because people are selfish, they will not just release igns that they don't need
3. Doing this is for the community, you are probably ignorant of certain things happening around like people using macro to snipe names.

I recently got hold of some ss of people admitting and showing off that they are using macro too
By releasing name kits, macro will be rendered useless
4. If you are unhappy about people getting rich from this, sts can set a price ceiling on the name kits, 1m is the max you can list for it on cs.
5. This must be highlighted again and again : WITHOUT THIS KIT, NAME SELLERS WILL BE RICHER BECAUSE THEY CAN REUSE THEIR NAMES FOR SCAMS!
- Let me give you an example if you can't comprehend this profound logic:
I sell the name Ardbeg, without name kit, i show them Ardbeg in game, they believe that i have the name, the give 500 k for it, i take the money and i leave, i go to another person and do the same thing, i get 1 m and i still have the name

With name kit, i sell ardbeg for 500k, they take the kit, i take the money, good deal, i earn 500k, i don't have ardbeg anymore, make sense?

It is a matter of scale. Name trades happened before, but not in this dimensions. And it is up to sts to decide the countermeasures.

1) hoarding names to sell is an exploit. There were bans before, it all depended on the level of exploit.
2) This might explode your brain: Everyone likes to progress, but not everyone sinks to the lowest level to do so. After all, this game needs new players filling all tiers in the chain to stay healthy. Allowing exploiters to get rich on newer players is a no go imho.
My playing field here, since you mentioned it, is to play with friends, no more, no less, i don't care for pvp or lb and i have nothing to prove. I assure you, i don't have a problem to compete, but sts establishes a stopp sign for new players if they let this slip.
3) I work in the software business and i am aware. Is your best argument really, if you don't abuse the system it will be abused more professionally? How about, everyone who abuses it, faces the consequences?
4) Sts can also just lock all advertised names and give them away in a lottery instead of making exploiters rich, up to sts.
5) Not after the first scam attempt. The name would already have been banned, and thats what all these threads try to avoid imho.

On an unrelated note, my name is priceless.

[Potato is me]

STS should never aim to monetize name trading. It has been an illegal activity from the start and should remain that way. Whatever they did to release all those names they already said it was a mistake. Stop looking for ways to capitalize on something that was not intended. All name trading activity should be stamped out period, not encouraged with this name kits suggestion.

If not for macro and scamming, i wouldn't put so much effort in posting all these threads, if you are not within a private community outside this forum, you might not know that name trading is actually flourishing right now, more people than you can imagine are doing it

[Zeus]

If not for macro and scamming, i wouldn't put so much effort in posting all these threads, if you are not within a private community outside this forum, you might not know that name trading is actually flourishing right now, more people than you can imagine are doing it

What do you think of my suggestion? I think people would agree with it more than kits. Your suggestion is awesome, but highly controversial. It is essentially the same argument people make with drugs: "You can't stop it from happening, so legalize it!". I like it, but I also see the downfalls: rewarding hoarders. And, I say this while holding a few names (which I plan to give way in name contest).

[Safiras]

If not for macro and scamming, i wouldn't put so much effort in posting all these threads, if you are not within a private community outside this forum, you might not know that name trading is actually flourishing right now, more people than you can imagine are doing it

The point I am trying to make is: if something is illegal, please don't think of ways to circumvent the illegality of the issue by making things easier for those who are doing it. I am well aware of a very lucrative and active black market for name trading that exists outside the domain of the game. However, people are also aware of prostitution rings that exist in our society in real life. Does that mean we should give people free passes so that we can all visit the prostitute legally? Illegal is illegal. Starting off by saying we should legalize a black market activity is going down a slippery slope.

[Avaree]

It is a matter of scale. Name trades happened before, but not in this dimensions. And it is up to sts to decide the countermeasures.

1) hoarding names to sell is an exploit. There were bans before, it all depended on the level of exploit.
2) This might explode your brain: Everyone likes to progress, but not everyone sinks to the lowest level to do so. After all, this game needs new players filling all tiers in the chain to stay healthy. Allowing exploiters to get rich on newer players is a no go imho.
My playing field here, since you mentioned it, is to play with friends, no more, no less, i don't care for pvp or lb and i have nothing to prove. I assure you, i don't have a problem to compete, but sts establishes a stopp sign for new players if they let this slip.
3) I work in the software business and i am aware. Is your best argument really, if you don't abuse the system it will be abused more professionally? How about, everyone who abuses it, faces the consequences?
4) Sts can also just lock all advertised names and give them away in a lottery instead of making exploiters rich, up to sts.
5) Not after the first scam attempt. The name would already have been banned, and thats what all these threads try to avoid imho.

On an unrelated note, my name is priceless.

#4 would be fun, ++++++ on all other points above

[Ardbeg]

Please look at my link - it's causing lag in game. I do not want name kits because of reasons you stated but I do want a fix for what my video is demonstrating. Ever since the name event weekend, this lag has been present and has been substantial. I also know that it is not my connection that is causing this lag.

I think it will be a more pragmatic solution for everybody and should be something nobody has a problem with unless, of course, they do what my video is describing.

Legalize the abuse and punish honest players? And why should people stop fishing with macros for names after selling is legal? You know the real fishing wave would just start...

[Suentous PO]

What do you think of my suggestion? I think people would agree with it more than kits. Your suggestion is awesome, but highly controversial. It is essentially the same argument people make with drugs: "You can't stop it from happening, so legalize it!".

Ugh, I was trying to leave & you drop that when I could destroy anti-legalizers arguments while high! XD

Anyway, one thing some people might not realize while disapproving is that the black market is essentially untouchable, sad fact. Sts can't control or verify kik, line, fb, or any other. So you can't sent screen shots and get the bad guy. Info can be faked easily. It doesn't stop a problem if your opinion is shooting down ops idea ends any of the problems.

That said I think the idea of the character generation need to be tweaked is vital.
That seems to be the most simple and effective thing that needs to happen. The ping and dc lately are terrible and I've always had a good connect,
until the name drama.....

[Zeus]

Legalize the abuse and punish honest players? And why should people stop fishing with macros for names after selling is legal? You know the real fishing wave would just start...

How would my suggestion punish honest players? I am not supporting name kits, I instead have a solution that reduces server stress. There are dozens of players who are doing this at the moment, each with multiple windows. When did I say to make name selling legal? I am saying to fix the way the character creation screen is designed (which is what is causing the lag) and this would in turn address the OP's issue (server lag and stealing of names that someone actually got legitimately) while simultaneously blocking a method these name sellers obtain names.

That's all. That's reasonable, no?

[Potato is me]

It is a matter of scale. Name trades happened before, but not in this dimensions. And it is up to sts to decide the countermeasures.

1) hoarding names to sell is an exploit. There were bans before, it sll depended on the level of exploit.
2) This might explode your brain: Everyone likes to progress, but not everyone sinks to the lowest level to do so. After all, this game needs new players filling all tiers in the chain to stay healthy. Allowing exploiters to get rich on newer players is a no go imho.
My playing field here, since you mentioned it, is to play with friends, no more, no less, i don't care for pvp or lb and i have nothing to prove. I assure you, i don't have a problem to compete, but sts establishes a stopp sign for new players if they let this slip.
3) I work in the software business and i am aware. Is your best argument really, if you don't abuse the system it will be abused more professionally? How about, everyone who abuses it, faces the consequences?
4) Sts can also just lock all advertised names and give them away in a lottery instead of making exploiters rich, up to sts.
5) Not after the first scam attempt. The name would already have been banned, and thats what all these threads try to avoid imho.

On an unrelated note, my name is priceless.

If they leave things be right now without any countermeasures, it will be more detrimental, we are suggesting countermeasures

1) I wouldn't agree that there were no bans before, but that is because there was real life transaction involved

2) It really exploded my brain, because right now, there seem to be more equality in game than before, i dare to say that i am one of the richer players in game last year, but right now, it seems that many players have obtained wealth of around my level or probably surpassed me.. things are easier to get now, wealth are easier to accumulate. Name hoarders can be anyone, and any poor soul in the past can become rich from this event, but is this really all about wealth?

(my intentions of creating this thread isn't about wealth though, i buy cheap iTunes cards, wait for plat sale, buys 6 months or 1 year supply of plats, use plats on items that give good returns, get gold to buy stuff that i want, I really don't care about earning more gold)

3) If you work in the software business, then you should know that it is near impossible for sts to detect and ban the offenders accurately, something like the ban from plat jewel lix last year will happen again. And this isn't an argument, although i must say this is my greatest concern.

4) So if i say I'm selling the name Potato altho i am not Potato, sts should lock that name? not easy

5) But they are not, and from past experience, sts doesn't do things without evidence, someone can also frame Zeus(Example) for scamming name even if he's not, how can sts verify it unless Zeus did pm that guy in game and specifically say yes I'm selling this name.

[Zeus]

Ugh, I was trying to leave & you drop that when I could destroy anti-legalizers arguments while high! XD

Anyway, one thing some people might not realize while disapproving is that the black market is essentially untouchable, sad fact. Sts can't control or verify kik, line, fb, or any other. So you can't sent screen shots and get the bad guy. Info can be faked easily. It doesn't stop a problem if your opinion is shooting down ops idea ends any of the problems.

That said I think the idea of the character generation need to be tweaked is vital.
That seems to be the most simple and effective thing that needs to happen. The ping and dc lately are terrible and I've always had a good connect,
until the name drama.....

It should function in the same way a rename does. If you try to rename a character with a name that is already in use, it reverts to your previous name. In this case, it should revert to a blank text field and not leave the failed rename in the text field. Yes, it would still be possible to macro but it would be much slower and therefore not effective (reducing server stress).

[Avaree]

Please look at my link - it's causing lag in game. I do not want name kits because of reasons you stated but I do want a fix for what my video is demonstrating. Ever since the name event weekend, this lag has been present and has been substantial. I also know that it is not my connection that is causing this lag.

I think it will be a more pragmatic solution for everybody and should be something nobody has a problem with unless, of course, they do what my video is describing.

Make a separate thread for your video, i dont want opposed opinions derailed. Obviously the op has names to sell, and the op wants to capitalize off them. Are you with him?

[Suentous PO]

It should function in the same way a rename does. If you try to rename a character with a name that is already in use, it reverts to your previous name. In this case, it should revert to a blank text field and not leave the failed rename in the text field. Yes, it would still be possible to macro but it would be much slower and therefore not effective (reducing server stress).

+1bazillion

[Zeus]

Make a separate thread for your video, i dont want opposed opinions derailed. Obviously the op has names to sell, and the op wants to capitalize off them. Are you with him?

Where's this coming from? I'm clearly stating I do not want name kits. Furthermore, I have a contest giving away names that I managed to get during the weekend - I do not believe in that nonsense. I do know it goes on, but I do not agree with it.

[Potato is me]

The point I am trying to make is: if something is illegal, please don't think of ways to circumvent the illegality of the issue by making things easier for those who are doing it. I am well aware of a very lucrative and active black market for name trading that exists outside the domain of the game. However, people are also aware of prostitution rings that exist in our society in real life. Does that mean we should give people free passes so that we can all visit the prostitute legally? Illegal is illegal. Starting off by saying we should legalize a black market activity is going down a slippery slope.

Prostitution is legal in Singapore ma'am, which is OUR society isn't it? There's a reason why such tabooed stuff are legal in some societies, it is to solve greater problems

[scarysmerf]

The name kit will never happen too many ppl will exploit it.

[Plqgue]

Here's the link...and it's so simple to get one of these too. You do not need to have any technical knowledge. Even if an honest player gets a good name, they will lose it to a person who is doing this. This has actually happened in the past before too but now it's being done on a much larger scale.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luLBRvUwezA
Video says private dude what is it ? Does it show what's causing this horrendous lag?

[Potato is me]

#4 would be fun, ++++++ on all other points above
Haha ur +++ doesn't mean anything because we all know that you will always support ardbeg


Legalize the abuse and punish honest players? And why should people stop fishing with macros for names after selling is legal? You know the real fishing wave would just start...

Heyy i think you got the wrong idea, the name kits will make sure that macro users cannot fish because the name will not be made available, it will become a name chest example : (Name Kit: Ardbeg)

Can you please read what i am proposing instead of jumping into conclusion before even giving the idea a thorough thought?

Calm yourself right now i think there are only two things on your mind
1) People pushing for name trading
2) Name hoarders become rich

If you want to know details here it is
1) Yes people are trading names
2) People are scamming names
3) People are sniping names

So whats happening now
People trade names, get sniped
People scam names, no snipe (Because they don't even release the names)
People snipe names sell names/ scam
People bought names keep it (Happy ending)
People bought names sell it (Gets sniped)
People bought names scam (GG)
The cycle continues and will eventually end with just scammers of name in the market

Other than the bigger problem is macro using, if you guys really hate this name kit idea, at least consider zeus idea of not being able to push for the same name twice

[Zeus]

Video says private dude what is it ? Does it show what's causing this horrendous lag?

It should be fixed now.

[Safiras]

Prostitution is legal in Singapore ma'am, which is OUR society isn't it? There's a reason why such tabooed stuff are legal in some societies, it is to solve greater problems

Perhaps the prostitution example wasn't the best one, but it illustrates my point. Do not make a wrong a right just to compromise on something which is "already happening". You do not tell a child it is all right to smoke in moderation because "everyone else is doing it". Anyway, seems your moral compass is already set, and you clearly know where I stand yet persist in your argument. So I will just stop commenting here, not contributing further to this issue.

[Schnitzel]

Legalizing selling names? We need an amendment to the AL ToS!

[Plqgue]

It should be fixed now.

Holy crap dude I was wondering what was causing g the lag I've been having lately. They should really implement something to fix this problem whether it be name kits or something different I don't care but it needs to be fixed the game is becoming unplayable even on good wifi

[Potato is me]

Perhaps the prostitution example wasn't the best one, but it illustrates my point. Do not make a wrong a right just to compromise on something which is "already happening". You do not tell a child it is all right to smoke in moderation because "everyone else is doing it". Anyway, seems your moral compass is already set, and you clearly know where I stand yet persist in your argument. So I will just stop commenting here, not contributing further to this issue.

Prostitution is the best example, thanks for pointing it out, it shows how taboo things can be given leeway but in controlled circumstances in order to solve a larger problem, I do know where you are standing ma'am and I'm just rebutting on it to prove that my argument makes sense too, we all know that we cannot change each other's view unless your reasoning of why name should not be traded is very very strong. If you have went through the JC aspect of education,in gp you should have learnt that proponents and oppositions are never really lopsided , there are always two ways of looking at things but which one is more convincing depends on the eyes of the beholder


Do not make a wrong a right just to compromise on something which is "already happening".

There is nothing either right or wrong but thinking makes it so.
-William shakespeare

[Zeus]

Holy crap dude I was wondering what was causing g the lag I've been having lately. They should really implement something to fix this problem whether it be name kits or something different I don't care but it needs to be fixed the game is becoming unplayable even on good wifi

I prefer a method that doesn't piss half of the game off, personally. :D

[Plqgue]

I prefer a method that doesn't piss half of the game off, personally. :D

I would too but TBH they'll get over it eventually. This lag is horrible and they should implement whatever to make it stop and I doubt it's gonna be new servers

[Potato is me]

I prefer a method that doesn't piss half of the game off, personally. :D

Lol, true, its just not worth to be engaged in meaningless arguments, at least solve the lag problem since those scams have been prevelant since forever

[Ansm]

Don't you all think it would be cool if it is implemented?
So that non-plat users can also change names.. :)

Sent from my vivo V1Max using Tapatalk

I dont think that this will make AL good or improve. There are many things that already changed here. And I guess that's already enough to us to make our character better. The plats will be useless if that happens.

[eugene9707]

I would too but TBH they'll get over it eventually. This lag is horrible and they should implement whatever to make it stop and I doubt it's gonna be new servers

I think changing the code of character creation page is probably the fastest way to to fix it.
I'm assuming that's just one or two lines of code? For clearing the text field

[Avaree]

Haha ur +++ doesn't mean anything because we all know that you will always support ardbeg
After 3 years and 8 month knowing who Ard is, knowing what he does for a career, knowing he has been logical and fair, i will support his views that are worthy of supporting. Nothing wrong with supporting another's views that mirror mine.

Btw you may want to change your wording to "i know" verses "we all" .

[Yes]

Im headache now.. bla bla bla

[Psychoism]

Noooo, 30plats is okay. No need to be tradable. And scammers will scam and scam and change their igns every scam lol.

[Suentous PO]

@ Potato - you can guess what sts thinks of an idea generally by how they react.
Past few days there have been several variations of this idea of legitimizing name trades, couple things happen;
1: thread disapears - surest sign of disapproval by sts
2: thread lock - another "no"
3: moved to suggestions - a kinder "no" (ignored)

Now see that one thread a guy suggests a hard core mode of play with no plat and 2 devs chimed in. That's how you know it's of interest.
So you can guess what sts thinks of this by their silence.

Prescient occasionally.
We have arrived

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[Roninmoro]

I don't get y ppl get so worked up no matter which side of the fence theyre on.
Anyway
@ Potato - you can guess what sts thinks of an idea generally by how they react.
Past few days there have been several variations of this idea of legitimizing name trades, couple things happen;
1: thread disapears - surest sign of disapproval by sts
2: thread lock - another "no"
3: moved to suggestions - a kinder "no" (ignored)

Now see that one thread a guy suggests a hard core mode of play with no plat and 2 devs chimed in. That's how you know it's of interest.
So you can guess what sts thinks of this by their silence. - imho

And to some of the responders to these ideas (not just here);
Why presume people are just trying to do something wrong? Who is handing out these hall monitor jobs?
Honestly a lot of times I see suggestion threads I just think some posters ( not directed at op) are just looking for someone to give them a pat on the back for an idea not take over the black market and kill puppies.

Some ppl just lost their minds lately

So here's the thing. It's not always about what you say, but how you say it. I don't care if you have the best idea in the world- if you say it in a way that is insulting, inappropriate, or that causes drama intentionally, it's getting removed from the forum. Closing or deleting threads or deleting posts only happens when someone has broken the TOS in the process. For example, this thread got nasty fast!
In addition, ff there's a lost of posts saying the same thing, we might merge them together, and suggestions ALWAYS go in the suggestions forum.
I don't want anyone to think that us upholding the TOS is us ignoring your ideas, because that isn't it at all. Please don't state things as fact unless we've said that was the case specifically.

[Suentous PO]

So here's the thing. It's not always about what you say, but how you say it. I don't care if you have the best idea in the world- if you say it in a way that is insulting, inappropriate, or that causes drama intentionally, it's getting removed from the forum. Closing or deleting threads or deleting posts only happens when someone has broken the TOS in the process. For example, this thread got nasty fast!
In addition, ff there's a lost of posts saying the same thing, we might merge them together, and suggestions ALWAYS go in the suggestions forum.
I don't want anyone to think that us upholding the TOS is us ignoring your ideas, because that isn't it at all. Please don't state things as fact unless we've said that was the case specifically.

Ironically I was intentionally using phrases like imho and generally so as not to be seen as stating fact.
I had gone back several pages to see if those threads existed and more specifically to see if anyone in sts had given any input to the original idea but found nothing. I was just trying to give people on both sides of the fence a different perspective.
I think in this case it would be good to hear what you all do think about this type of idea or what you think of Zues' idea.
The lag and dc have gotten bad lately.

[Roninmoro]

I'm always hesitant to give my input, as sometimes I have thoughts on your ideas that the dev team might not share, or that they aren't able to implement. If people would stop taking my casual comments as an official, company-wide stance, that wouldn't be as much of an issue :) As much as I do actually like your ideas, I feel it's more appropriate if I just make sure the dev team is aware and let you guys develop them organically.

[Zeus]

They heard us, name macro was fixed by changing the way character creation screen makes a character. Thanks developers!

[VROOMIGoRealFast]

I'll chirp in here a little bit to help.

We devs often look through the forums, and there are plenty of threads we read without replying (if we were to reply to every thread we'd never get work done!) We have both read and discussed the ideas of tradeable "Name Tags" (Personally this is my 3rd time viewing this specific thread). There are many reasons why we may decide something isn't appropriate for the game, whether it's the time it would take to implement, the dangers of released a new method to increase scam or player harassment, or that we are currently booked with features that we feel are more beneficial to the game.

One of the biggest things working against the tradeable "Name Tags", is that it's a proposed solution to a problem that no longer exists. While it may have been a possible solution to that problem, we have identified what we feel were easier and more appropriate ways to address that same problem!

Just because something is moved to the Suggestions subforum, or deleted, doesn't mean a dev never saw it. In fact it specifically means it hass been viewed, because someone had to read it to know it should be deleted or moved ;). The sub forums are for organization, so that us devs know where to go to find Suggestions, Bugs, PvP related talk, or General Discussion. If a really healthy discussion on PvP balance or a really awesome feature suggestion took place in the Player Guides subforum, we may never see it because we would never think to look there for it.

With Ears to See, and Eyes to Hear (bonus points if you know the band!)
-Vroom

[Sorayai]

With Ears to See, and Eyes to Hear (bonus points if you know the band!)
-Vroom
Sleeping with sirens maybe? :)

[iamsorry]

ahh this would be nice

[Roninmoro]

Let's keep this on topic :)

[EbenevTheMage]

Let's keep this on topic :)
so u guys (devs) interested for the thread? [emoji4]

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[TWEEKER4LIFE]

It's a good idea.

Édit: Imo 120 Story Token Sounds reasonable.

[Meowtho]

really great idea i spent like 200 plats fir renaming... now i need these plats

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[Powerstyle]

good idea bud