Rogue's Duskbringer's weapons

[Avaree]

First, thanks to the devs for fun maps that put team mechanics to the test. I love the mobs, and cant wait to see the next stage brings.

The rogues duskbringer's daggers are fun. Not only do they buff the rogue's armor on basic attack but by using basic attack we can hold a 10% armor buff. As the description states charging attack increases the buff %, this charged buff does stack, but like the basic buff it ticks down to 10% buff and can also be held at a 10% by bacic attacks. Another interesting note, rogues can also hold the 10% buff using skill + basic/charge attack + skill, rinse and repeat.

(Will upload pics later of descriptions)

The duskbringer's bow charged attack shoots three arrows every time charged, as long as there is three viable targets. These will also stun 1-2 secs (need to have another set of eyes tomget exact stun time) everytime. If you are really good, all three shots will stun. Look out in pvp!!

(Vroom did clarify the bow shooting 3 arrows is by design)

[Eagleye]

Opinion on Immo bow vs duskbow? Having a hard time deciding if I should sell Immo bow and i haven't been able to test the new 61 bow personally yet. The damage increase is ofc massive but I find the health loss slightly discouraging and Immo bow proc is super useful especially against bosses . Is the trade off worth it ?

[resurrected]

What's difference in stat between best version of daggers and bow?

[Perceval]

An increase in the duration of the dagger proc would be nice.

[Avaree]

Opinion on Immo bow vs duskbow? Having a hard time deciding if I should sell Immo bow and i haven't been able to test the new 61 bow personally yet. The damage increase is ofc massive but I find the health loss slightly discouraging and Immo bow proc is super useful especially against bosses . Is the trade off worth it ?

I had no issues droppin the immo (bow & daggers) after using the dusk.



An increase in the duration of the dagger proc would be nice.
The buff last about three seconds before ticking down.

[Avaree]

What's difference in stat between best version of daggers and bow?

I will try to post pics but, I keep getting "image file in valid" message. :(
I will try taptalk.

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I will try to post pics but, I keep getting "image file in valid" :( I will try taptalk.
Okay thanks!

[Avaree]

Okay thanks!


Taptalk ftw!!

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Taptalk ftw!!

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Damn its very huge difference in damage DPS armor and hp. If i need to choose one as main weapon what would you suggest?
Thanks for screenshots!

[Avaree]

Damn its very huge difference in damage DPS armor and hp. If i need to choose one as main weapon what would you suggest?
Thanks for screenshots!

All depends on your play style, what do you currently use?

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All depends on your play style, what do you currently use?
Well currently i use tank [emoji14] it's about my sis style. She just deal as much damage as she can to kill first witches, mages and so on then attack less dangerous mobs.

[Avaree]

Well currently i use tank [emoji14] it's about my sis style. She just deal as much damage as she can to kill first witches, mages and so on then attack less dangerous mobs.

The weaps are pretty affordable, and drop at a decent rate. She could always buy the cheaper duskbringer sets to test out :) Then form her own opinion.

[Ravager]

Taptalk ftw!!

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Taptalk fail ;) (Did you mean to post the 2nd pic twice or wanted to show us a different pic?)

Thanks for the pics btw.

[Avaree]

Damn its very huge difference in damage DPS armor and hp. If i need to choose one as main weapon what would you suggest?
Thanks for screenshots!

Also I want to point out, the damage is so much lower than daggers due to bow being able to fire multiple arrows at once given there is valid targets. The bow is fun, look me up in game, I can show her.

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Also I want to point out, the damage is so much lower than daggers due to bow being able to fire multiple arrows at once given there is valid targets. The bow is fun, look me up in game, I can show her.
Sure! Thank you again :) will pm for sure

[Avaree]

Taptalk fail ;) (Did you mean to post the 2nd pic twice or wanted to show us a different pic?)

Thanks for the pics btw.

Yw!

Wanted to show the description of the proc. Was to lazy to cut, crop, paste .....

[Perceval]

The buff last about three seconds before ticking down.
I wouldn't be suggesting such if I didn't already have this information.

[Avaree]

I wouldn't be suggesting such if I didn't already have this information.

I got a pm mixed up with your post. Either way it's handy to know the duration of the highest % buff received.


An increase in the duration of the dagger proc would be nice.

TBH the proc is so easily produced (charge or use basic attack) that no increase in duration is needed. Player can hold a 10% buff as long as they want.

[Perceval]

I got a pm mixed up with your post. Either way it's handy to know the duration of the highest % buff received.
As I said, I already had this information.

[Sorayai]

Duskbringer daggers or immo daggers?
What u prefer at the moment?

[soon]

Still wanted to increase the range of the bow, you have to attack very close.

[Avaree]

Duskbringer daggers or immo daggers?
What u prefer at the moment?

I sold my immos.

[Sorayai]

I sold my immos.
That's mean I shouldn't buy immo daggers and keep dusk's? :)
Btw thanks for reply ^_^

[Fsuryo]

The duskbringer's bow charged attack shoots three arrows every time charged, as long as there is three viable targets. These will also stun 1-2 secs (need to have another set of eyes tomget exact stun time) everytime. If you are really good, all three shots will stun. Look out in pvp!!

(Vroom did clarify the bow shooting 3 arrows is by design)

OMG i should level up my rog now O,o


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[Avaree]

That's mean I shouldn't buy immo daggers and keep dusk's? :)
Btw thanks for reply ^_^
That's up to you. Everyone has different feels for different weaps. If you can afford to buy immos, or try a friend's set I advise you to do so, this way you can form your own opinion. :) good luck!

[Avaree]

Still wanted to increase the range of the bow, you have to attack very close.
From testing other legendary bows, this bow appears to have the same range as the raiding, terra, bonechill, and giant bows. I can still hit a mob before they sense my presence. (I didn't test range on immo, or any myth bows as I don't own any of them.)

Edit* I use daggers 95% of the time, later I will use the bow in a few more runs. If you feel it needs adjusting, make a suggestion :)

[Fredystern]

OP dagger o.o

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[mutantninjaz]

i have a tank 61 i wanted to know which is the best lvl 61 legendary gear for a tank....

also i have antignome set war all 5/5 piece so is it good if i use full antignome set + new lvl 61 weapon?

ty in advance :)

[Avaree]

i have a tank 61 i wanted to know which is the best lvl 61 legendary gear for a tank....

also i have antignome set war all 5/5 piece so is it good if i use full antignome set + new lvl 61 weapon?

ty in advance :)

Check out this thread :)

http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?375935-Warrior-stats-with-legendary-level-61-gear&p=2597063&viewfull=1#post2597063

[Lopezman]

Things people do when they need more attention...
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[Jazzi]

It seems kinda strange to me though that firstly the duskbringer bow does not have auto aim on auto attack, which is the first bow in the game I have seen without auto aim. Secondly it is even stranger that the light weapons have no proc at all :confusion:

[soon]

From testing other legendary bows, this bow appears to have the same range as the raiding, terra, bonechill, and giant bows. I can still hit a mob before they sense my presence. (I didn't test range on immo, or any myth bows as I don't own any of them.)

Edit* I use daggers 95% of the time, later I will use the bow in a few more runs. If you feel it needs adjusting, make a suggestion :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOY8J_CIsiM&feature=youtu.be


I did some tests and this new bow and he has problems with to aim. Especially when you're coast to the enemy. I found strange the amount of shooting errors when used the bow.

[Avaree]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOY8J_CIsiM&feature=youtu.be


I did some tests and this new bow and he has problems with to aim. Especially when you're coast to the enemy. I found strange the amount of shooting errors when used the bow.

Weird. I only tested range. Thanks for video, if you havent posted this in tech issues, u should :)

[Korabiv]

Do we have confirmation that this is actually supposed to be the proc for the dusk daggers? It is the exact same proc as the dusk aegis. My first reaction was that sts goofed in the description of the procs but it seems that these daggers actually add the armor. If I'm not mistaken, never in the history of the game has there been weapons from different classes that have the same proc and it would seem odd to start that now. I would expect new weapons to have there own unique proc as this has how it has always been. Are you sure this isn't a bug and that the dusk daggers are really supposed to have a different proc?

[Safiras]

It seems kinda strange to me though that firstly the duskbringer bow does not have auto aim on auto attack, which is the first bow in the game I have seen without auto aim. Secondly it is even stranger that the light weapons have no proc at all :confusion:

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Lightbearer weapons are of a lower tier of Legendary weapon and by design do not have procs.

[Avaree]

Do we have confirmation that this is actually supposed to be the proc for the dusk daggers? It is the exact same proc as the dusk aegis. My first reaction was that sts goofed in the description of the procs but it seems that these daggers actually add the armor. If I'm not mistaken, never in the history of the game has there been weapons from different classes that have the same proc and it would seem odd to start that now. I would expect new weapons to have there own unique proc as this has how it has always been. Are you sure this isn't a bug and that the dusk daggers are really supposed to have a different proc?

Best way to get answers for your questions is to ask a dev. :) maybe a pm to vroom may be the quickest.

[Korabiv]

Best way to get answers for your questions is to ask a dev. :) maybe a pm to vroom may be the quickest.

Hmmm not sure I know how haha. Still don't know my way around these forums.

Also to add to my previous post, every single mage and rogue proc in the past has had some form of offense to it where as warriors are usually defensive. Some rogue and mage procs do have some form of defense but there is always an offensive part to it as well. I honestly feel the proc for the dusk daggers is not correct.

[Jazzi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOY8J_CIsiM&feature=youtu.be


I did some tests and this new bow and he has problems with to aim. Especially when you're coast to the enemy. I found strange the amount of shooting errors when used the bow.


Weird. I only tested range. Thanks for video, if you havent posted this in tech issues, u should :)


Huhu,

as i have posted above the problem with the bow is that it has no auto aim on auto attacks. Thus making kiting very suboptimal and defeating the purpose of using a bow vs daggers altogether.

Currently the bows have the mages' staves mechanic: if u are standing with your back to the enemy u take one shot in vain and then your character turns around and aims properly.

The bows do not have an aiming problem when you are facing the enemies and not moving.

[Jazzi]

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Lightbearer weapons are of a lower tier of Legendary weapon and by design do not have procs.

Thanks a ton. Hadn't read this properly.

[Ceuidear]

I capped n bought daggers with good enchantments n stats, compared to my old bow (Glint of deft) i got my DMG & DPS increased by 800+(DMG) & 2K(DPS) with some additional health along with 200+ Mana with good armor(dont know excatly how much) all i lost was 4% Dodge which isnt a big issue as i had 68.88% Dodge now have got 64.88%.
But, the thing thats bothering me now is that Dusk weapons dont have proc & i have major question in my head....

Is Bow better than Daggers to run in maps ???!!!

The dusk weapons dont even have proc so thats bothering too:(

[ilhanna]

I like the bow especially with tricky bosses like Ferrix and Krax where you can't always move close to damage with your daggers. But daggers have higher skills damage so I'm sticking to them for the time being.

I hope this image shows clearly. This compares my skills damage with Duskbringer Bow Potency and Duskbringer Daggers Lethality. The lethality daggers aren't even the best out there but the difference is clear:

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Stats were unbuffed, with Maridos. The pink armor and helm aren't top of the line (tactics and savvy) with two excellent finesse each.

[Ceuidear]

I like the bow especially with tricky bosses like Ferrix and Krax where you can't always move close to damage with your daggers. But daggers have higher skills damage so I'm sticking to them for the time being.

I hope this image shows clearly. This compares my skills damage with Duskbringer Bow Potency and Duskbringer Daggers Lethality. The lethality daggers aren't even the best out there but the difference is clear:

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Stats were unbuffed, with Maridos. The pink armor and helm aren't top of the line (tactics and savvy) with two excellent finesse each.

So, ur suggestion is to stick to the daggers until i get the new mythic bow ? & its better compared to the Dusk bow ?

[nightmaresmoke]

The double and triple arrow only works with normal and charged attack not skill usage right? I tested it don't if it's by design or should work with skills also.

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[Ceuidear]

The double and triple arrow only works with normal and charged attack not skill usage right? I tested it don't if it's by design or should work with skills also.

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I think it has been designed to hit 3 arrows only when it has been charged or normal, if it can be used even while using skills then i think there will be no difference between Aimed & Nox when compared to Shadow Storm Shot.

[ilhanna]

The double and triple arrow only works with normal and charged attack not skill usage right? I tested it don't if it's by design or should work with skills also.

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Yes, only on normal weapon attack, not skills.

[ilhanna]

So, ur suggestion is to stick to the daggers until i get the new mythic bow ? & its better compared to the Dusk bow ?

The bow is nice, especially since the basic damage is huge, almost on par with aimed shot, and targets more than one. But its autoaim is faulty for now (you have to face the target to hit) and as you can see the skills damage of the best type is still a few hundred less than that of daggers of inferior type. I'll be living in the new map for a while so daggers with its armor proc and sizable damage seem an obvious choice for faster runs.

But it's early days in the expansion yet. There might be events where better gear might be released. Justg said this expansion will last about six months. So IMO no need to agonize over weapon choice. Just get something within your budget for farming the new map, cross your fingers and hope something better drops, and just go. With changes coming fast and frequent, I would think the best investment you can make for your stats will be jewels and pets anyway, things that stay with you over gear shifts and seasons.