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Saud
10-26-2016, 06:11 AM
So i was looking at the vendor in chancel town
And this happened..
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http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161026/76d9fc29a453e966e4f4d8810427ed5f.jpg
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I hope it don't become banished 2.0
Where no one completed it ;)
What you think guys?


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Spell
10-26-2016, 06:13 AM
So i was looking at the vendor in chancel town
And this happened..
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161026/16304cdc6f2c438cb2a982abc141cc0c.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161026/76d9fc29a453e966e4f4d8810427ed5f.jpg
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I hope it don't become banished 2.0
Where no one could option it ;)
What you think guys?


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Im curious if it will apply to any and all maps hehe.unlike the last set ,which btw NONE have finished,it doesnt have the "only applies to xxxx map"

Saud
10-26-2016, 06:16 AM
Im curious if it will apply to any and all maps hehe.unlike the last set ,which btw NONE have finished,it doesnt have the "only applies to xxxx map"

Actually you can see the last ss
It says only in Twilight xD
So yea..


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Chuuwee
10-26-2016, 06:26 AM
It only applies in Somberholt and Chancel of Light. :( but we only saw the belt. When can we see the rest of the set? XD

Greoatef
10-26-2016, 06:28 AM
it clearly specifies that the effect only works in "Somberholt Dungeons and Chancel of Light"

supersyan
10-26-2016, 07:00 AM
The +50 is damage modifier or just adds +50 damage top of all damage?

eugene9707
10-26-2016, 08:11 AM
The +50 is damage modifier or just adds +50 damage top of all damage?

Base damage, so it'll get multiplied by the bonus damage, pets, and other stuff

aneshsinghblu
10-26-2016, 08:51 AM
why do I have a picture of headless chickens running around at sts

Ckc Chen
10-26-2016, 10:28 AM
What rank are you SPELL?

Spell
10-26-2016, 01:02 PM
Actually you can see the last ss
It says only in Twilight xD
So yea..


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Oh dear the last ss didnt show for me haha

Carapace
10-26-2016, 02:13 PM
why do I have a picture of headless chickens running around at sts

Because that's how we roll!

In all seriousness we have learned some valuable lessons from the Banish Set and the Voice of the Order will be a little more reasonable. It will be through grinding and play, and not too heavy on the RNG ths time around. Specific details about the Voice of the Order set have not been released yet, but given that the Belt requires being Exalted to purchase one can surmise that it won't be available until Stage 4 ;)

blazerdd
10-26-2016, 02:26 PM
Because that's how we roll!

In all seriousness we have learned some valuable lessons from the Banish Set and the Voice of the Order will be a little more reasonable. It will be through grinding and play, and not too heavy on the RNG ths time around. Specific details about the Voice of the Order set have not been released yet, but given that the Belt requires being Exalted to purchase one can surmise that it won't be available until Stage 4 ;)

Just from speculation, won't this render the banished/antignome sets worthless and a waste of time?

Carapace
10-26-2016, 02:32 PM
Just from speculation, won't this render the banished/antignome sets worthless and a waste of time?

Banished/Anitgnome bonuses are only available in the Underhul content, and Voice of the Order bonuses are only available in the Somberholt. The new content that utilizes the Antignome/Banished will receive no benefit from the Voice of the Order in terms of the set bonuses of that content, so while the individual stats are superior the gear will not be better in the upcoming Underhul location.

I don't want to spill too much about that content, but it should be exciting :)

bonjovi3223
10-26-2016, 02:35 PM
Just by reading the set bonus.....this is gonna be underhul x10 in difficulty I feel.

Carapace
10-26-2016, 02:43 PM
Just by reading the set bonus.....this is gonna be underhul x10 in difficulty I feel.

Level 5 Mausoleum I believe is actually harder than any Elite we've ever made. We're willing to bump the challenge because we support the multiple tiers of difficulty on the various floors.

Lolifee
10-26-2016, 03:23 PM
B will not be better in the upcoming Underhul location.

ehh W8 what??!

GoodSyntax
10-26-2016, 03:29 PM
Banished/Anitgnome bonuses are only available in the Underhul content, and Voice of the Order bonuses are only available in the Somberholt. The new content that utilizes the Antignome/Banished will receive no benefit from the Voice of the Order in terms of the set bonuses of that content, so while the individual stats are superior the gear will not be better in the upcoming Underhul location.

I don't want to spill too much about that content, but it should be exciting :)

Wouldn't it make more sense then for these campaign-specific sets to be level based (i.e., 1 point in primary stat per level and 0.75 point in secondary stat per level, with fixed Crit/DMG/Etc. values) so that these sets maintain their overall usefulness and are clearly the superior set when running the campaign that they were designed for?

Carapace
10-26-2016, 03:34 PM
Wouldn't it make more sense then for these campaign-specific sets to be level based (i.e., 1 point in primary stat per level and 0.75 point in secondary stat per level, with fixed Crit/DMG/Etc. values) so that these sets maintain their overall usefulness and are clearly the superior set when running the campaign that they were designed for?

We did think about that approach, but scaling anything by level creates its own problem. Case in point the Arcane Deary Diamond Ring and pets. Scaling forever with no ceiling means they permeate for far too long, and if they aren't scaled enough they are never perceived as useful.

GoodSyntax
10-26-2016, 03:43 PM
We did think about that approach, but scaling anything by level creates its own problem. Case in point the Arcane Deary Diamond Ring and pets. Scaling forever with no ceiling means they permeate for far too long

I agree with that, but if, over the course of a single expansion, a set (even with full bonus) is outclassed by odd-ball legendaries, then players, like me that haven't attained the set, do not feel compelled to grind for it. If the Antignome/Banished/etc., set would be superior (even by a small margin) in a given campaign (such as Underhul and Glintstone), then that's all the reason I need to work for it. Perhaps a level based set bonus then???

Unfortunately, at this point, the stats of a full Banished set (even in the appropriate zones) pale in comparison to mainstream legendary gear from the graveyard.

The timed and pro run crowd puts value on efficiency, and if a Banished or Antignome set prove to be ever so slightly superior in terms of efficiency for these maps, then the gear will continue to hold value and provide players that farm for them an income stream. I mean, these are not easy items to attain, so with the new gear and the huge stat differential, I just can't see anyone even bothering to work for these older sets unless they have a good reason to do so.

Fredystern
10-26-2016, 06:12 PM
Banished/Anitgnome bonuses are only available in the Underhul content, and Voice of the Order bonuses are only available in the Somberholt. The new content that utilizes the Antignome/Banished will receive no benefit from the Voice of the Order in terms of the set bonuses of that content, so while the individual stats are superior the gear will not be better in the upcoming Underhul location.

I don't want to spill too much about that content, but it should be exciting :)
Im wonder why antignome bonus will applied in new maps when very cheap legendary will surpass its stats easily :(

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Spell
10-26-2016, 09:57 PM
ehh W8 what??!

+1 i see a new underhaul map on the way huhu :3

Energizeric
10-26-2016, 10:55 PM
I think this is what some others are trying to say:

The problem with the Antignome and Banished sets were that they were only the best sets in the zone where they gave the set bonus. In other zones, or in PvP, there was other gear that was actually superior.

Most players (myself included) do NOT want to have multiple sets for different purposes. That means you need multiple sets of jewels as well.

So my suggestion is this: Future sets should still be the best gear even without the set bonus, even if by just a little bit. Then you can be sure players will grind to get those sets. Perhaps there should be a set bonus that applies everywhere, and then that set bonus can have a multiplier that applies only in certain zones.