What is the reason?

[Golem]

Almost from 2013 we asking for black dragon sets and l71 elites, can you Bring them back? dosnt matter if they are even different lvl (for example l80)
what is the reason you cant do this? this would be 1 most cool ideas for PL.
does is cost much for sts to bring old things back? since pro cinco is doing awesome updates hard working so why not bringing those to game? =)

[ryanbemani1]

Dude I think what you are asking for is not possible. Yes Cinco is a pro at awesome updates but Cinco also has to take this in account:
Every old player who has been in the old days of PL and worked hard for the discontinued gear will be absolutely annoyed. There has to be some sort of difference in old and new players. Trust me it isn't just about the money and how people who have spent millions on the sets which would cause an outrage on this idea, but old players want to be able to show that they were there at the beginning of PL's life. Otherwise everyone would look the same. This idea might be good if they were planning to sunset the game, which would give chances to the slightly newer players to obtain and try out these old sets. Otherwise, sorry to disappoint you man but I highly doubt this going to happen. Cinco is already doing a great job with his creation of new items. Almost everyone is happy with his new work. Instead if he does something like this, many individuals may start disliking the idea.

[Suentous PO]

No.

Black sets were a reward for a difficult elite map, no one should have it handed out for free. If you were there you'd know how hard it was to obtain ( if your who I think you are you could have gotten it of not for the ***).
They said no more updates and yet in the midst of two updates you shouldn't have expected, your asking for more -.-
Say ty Cinco & move on, the past is done.

[Mess]

"we"? I see more people that does NOT want black sets back...

[HeyitsTubs]

Almost from 2013 we asking for black dragon sets and l71 elites, can you Bring them back? dosnt matter if they are even different lvl (for example l80)
what is the reason you cant do this? this would be 1 most cool ideas for PL.
does is cost much for sts to bring old things back? since pro cinco is doing awesome updates hard working so why not bringing those to game? =)

yo buddy, have u ever heard of the words 'scarcity' ? Or 'devaluation' ?

Look em up, and learn from their definitions keeping in mind all perspectives

Perspective 1: New player loving the Black drag look! Bro, I want One!!!!

Perspective 2: Old player who has worked to earn it. Hmm, if everyone would just be given one, or even have to earn it but at this time.... that would really devalue mine which I earned in 2010-11!

[Duckypowerz]

Black drag was not in 2010-2011 lol but Ya there is no reason to bring it back I regret not buying when I had chance to UR can't go back in time.

[Golem]

We just hear 10-30 "old player" who has those and are jellys if this "new players" get things that they had. thats not fair. Look at Arcane Legends. The most expencive Leader board Prize: SNS egg went to 150m whic means almost 600m in pl. now almost everyone got it and worth 2m. Everyone is happy. This games not meant for just "old players" which left in game 10-30 only with those items and as we know what half of them are doing.

Just remember for you "old players" and for Sts: this game not made for few old players right?

selfish is bad thing. thats the reason what happened to this kind of games.

[Golem]

"we"? I see more people that does NOT want black sets back...

let sts check this few players who against this idea... they all got one of those items in game.
again selfish isnt nice thing.

[Golem]

No.

Black sets were a reward for a difficult elite map, no one should have it handed out for free. If you were there you'd know how hard it was to obtain ( if your who I think you are you could have gotten it of not for the ***).
They said no more updates and yet in the midst of two updates you shouldn't have expected, your asking for more -.-
Say ty Cinco & move on, the past is done.

look suentous po. ik you one of those few players who got those items in game. Dont be selfish :).
Bringing them back in game gonna take care also about those ppl who doing things against TOS.

[Golem]

yo buddy, have u ever heard of the words 'scarcity' ? Or 'devaluation' ?

Look em up, and learn from their definitions keeping in mind all perspectives

Perspective 1: New player loving the Black drag look! Bro, I want One!!!!

Perspective 2: Old player who has worked to earn it. Hmm, if everyone would just be given one, or even have to earn it but at this time.... that would really devalue mine which I earned in 2010-11!

"old player" "worked hard"
omg ppl you are just few.
Learn you this:

New players = future

Taking care of them = future.

[Golem]

Remember old players this few things:

-you can keep your l71 items no one care tbh.

-What i asked was a new level of those items looks.

-everyone love beautiful things, why bring uggly look to game when we had most beatiful items many years ago than novadays items? O_o

-look at those forgottens with the new lvls, made PL most active in 2-3years. we all see now how active game is after those. so why to be selfish? why want to be onlyone who left in game? is it nice to be lonely? let game be active again.

[Apa]

Remember old players this few things:

-you can keep your l71 items no one care tbh.

-What i asked was a new level of those items looks.

-everyone love beautiful things, why bring uggly look to game when we had most beatiful items many years ago than novadays items? O_o

-look at those forgottens with the new lvls, made PL most active in 2-3years. we all see now how active game is after those. so why to be selfish? why want to be onlyone who left in game? is it nice to be lonely? let game be active again.


Where is Sts gonna fit a boat, a fish and a twister into the L80 cap? These items were exclusive to Humania and its a stupid idea to bring them back even as a different Level and/or recolour.
I don't mind the idea of making new elites different level what ever. And that's exactly what Cinco did. He made new elite weapons for L80. Just be grateful. We are l lucky we even got an update and it's funny because when we get updates theres always the few people ( like you ) who keeps asking for more and more

Sts isn't gonna bring back black dragon for new players
Sts isn't gonna bring back 71 Elites (including the non-tradables)
Sts is treating the newgens fairly. The new Elite ring is Op more than the 3 pc now

And not bringing them back is not being selfish. These items (including other discontinued things ) separate the oldies and the newgens in a big way and if everyone was the same then the game would just be boring. Everything needs a little bit of difference here and there.
And as mentioned above the oldies worked hard to earn the elites and black drag.
Think about how much the 71 elites and black drag would devalue if sts were to bring them back
It would make so many oldies angry

[Jilsponie]

Dude I think what you are asking for is not possible. Yes Cinco is a pro at awesome updates but Cinco also has to take this in account:
Every old player who has been in the old days of PL and worked hard for the discontinued gear will be absolutely annoyed. There has to be some sort of difference in old and new players. Trust me it isn't just about the money and how people who have spent millions on the sets which would cause an outrage on this idea, but old players want to be able to show that they were there at the beginning of PL's life. Otherwise everyone would look the same. This idea might be good if they were planning to sunset the game, which would give chances to the slightly newer players to obtain and try out these old sets. Otherwise, sorry to disappoint you man but I highly doubt this going to happen. Cinco is already doing a great job with his creation of new items. Almost everyone is happy with his new work. Instead if he does something like this, many individuals may start disliking the idea.
Old players already have things nobody can get.... lots of em. Mostly vanities that give them an actual advantage over other players. I think it would be greatfor the game. Would most likely boost platinum sales and kill the blackmarket on these items.

[Waug]

If sts keep updating the game the way they r doing now then don't worry at some point some cool items will be back as they r bringing back old items to work less and provide atleast some recoloured content.

[Kingzila]

Almost from 2013 we asking for black dragon sets and l71 elites, can you Bring them back? dosnt matter if they are even different lvl (for example l80)
what is the reason you cant do this? this would be 1 most cool ideas for PL.
does is cost much for sts to bring old things back? since pro cinco is doing awesome updates hard working so why not bringing those to game? =)


Honestly if you didn't earn it then & can't afford it now your out of luck, it's not sts's job to regulate items when people can't get them by normal means & it's not fair to anyone who had to spend 50 straight hours of there life to farm said items to get it or people who had to bust there chops finding someone who wasn't going to scam them to then spend 100$ to just buy it.

If you feel it's not fair they have it & you don't, I have a sad story to tell you, welcome to real life. Lamborghini doesn't make there super sports 50k sports cars because people can't afford there half a million dollar once. Sorry to be a deby downer but that's just how it is. Won't really matter though because I see one of these ever 3 weeks.

[Kingzila]

Old players already have things nobody can get.... lots of em. Mostly vanities that give them an actual advantage over other players. I think it would be greatfor the game. Would most likely boost platinum sales and kill the blackmarket on these items.

More like put the final nails in the coffin, is it not bad enough you can just power level yourself now with just a few 100$s?
Also normal pvp whiner spotted,
here's a thought, get gud Casual.

[Suentous PO]

We just hear 10-30 "old player" who has those and are jellys if this "new players" get things that they had. thats not fair. Look at Arcane Legends. The most expencive Leader board Prize: SNS egg went to 150m whic means almost 600m in pl. now almost everyone got it and worth 2m. Everyone is happy. This games not meant for just "old players" which left in game 10-30 only with those items and as we know what half of them are doing.

Just remember for you "old players" and for Sts: this game not made for few old players right?

selfish is bad thing. thats the reason what happened to this kind of games.

Being that you aren't asking for a recolor, it could be said that you are the one being selfish. If they bring back old stuff, old players have no reason to play to get what they already have.
If something entirely new or a recolor is released then old players and new players have something to work on, not just new players. In any case they are giving everybody something new to do in game and that's not enough for you? Sounds idk- selfish lo
Customer retention is as important as getting new customers. Seems like Cinco has it right as is

[Zillionaire]

I think most people who were against this idea have already been disappointed by the appearance of new green and yellow forgotten items and they fear it even happens to other items such as black drag and 71 elites that some of them bought for real life money.. to the wise ;)

[HeyitsTubs]

"old player" "worked hard"
omg ppl you are just few.
Learn you this:

New players = future

Taking care of them = future.

well, now ur taking the perspective of the company not the players.

[Golem]

As we see and i hope sts noticed that. this few old players are still same ones who were against idea to bring those items back as every time ppl talks about those items-

Suentouspo there is a lot new players who are better costumers than you btw. dont be like you are better than new players.

just bring those items back sts. same as u did to SNS and other items in al, what did you lose ? only made a game more active, same as pl forgotten weapons with new lvl and same color.

[Suentous PO]

As we see and i hope sts noticed that. this few old players are still same ones who were against idea to bring those items back as every time ppl talks about those items-

Then you should recognize many have always opposed this. Why bring it up again with no variation (like recolor)



Suentouspo there is a lot new players who are better costumers than you btw. dont be like you are better than new players.


I never said that lol, but a loyal player base is important and your idea pushes old players away needlessly.



just bring those items back sts. same as u did to SNS and other items in al, what did you lose ? only made a game more active, same as pl forgotten weapons with new lvl and same color.

Can't compare al to pl in that sense because plat items here are intentionally bound to the acc whereas in al plat items are tradeable.

[Azitraozuci]

Go save your gold some of the "new gen" players and buy your own 71 elite or black drag. They never had a chance to farm the items but yet they where still able to obtain what they wanted. (Yes some bought from Black market, but I know a few who actually spent the time to earn it the hard way)
The amount of crying won't help you get what you want

[bosstinytitan]

It's definitely possible to legitimately earn L71 stuff. It takes a hell of a lot of time, but merching is fun, and I can definitely link you up to a pro guide made by an old forumer (hint hint, he was an annoying merch who people kinda forgot)

http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?306059-Bosstinytitan-s-Merching-Guide!

Love seeing some oldies still active on here
<3
Boss

[Ignitedmage]

Well i would compare it with real life(even though i shouldn't i know this is a game but still this one is relative alot)

Lets say you have an antique item, lets say you have coins which, the government doesn't makes now. you collected those coins with alot hard work (even though they are just coins but just imagine or imagine they were expensive, for some particular reason) now you and your friends always have a coin collection fight and you show them your old coins and you always wins.

Now its ofcourse that you'll not be beaten in any coin collection battle or whatever and you prolly win feel good and happy to have them and win everytime however then the government says, " we are going to reproduce the old coins because my son wants a collection of it". What will you do??
First of all you'll get like damn raged, then you'll hate the president and even spread bad things about him, i know you'll calm down but then you'll never collect those coins again because your time was wasted before and now you just don't trust it.

Coming back to the game, PL has these collectors who either spent hours and days actually to farm these sets(no matter what elite or vanity it is) and then there are more of them who spent months on merching and bought the black dragon vanity set and now they feel like they completed their task and they are richer then others, if they bring back these sets it'll change alot of things, first it will make their precious time which they spent on farming merching or whatever and ask anybody how much is the value of 1 minute and then most of them even spent money(for elixirs) which they probably earned from hard work and then in the end they get to know that STS is just distributing them?

i personally don't have any of these sets but i am thinking as a community, and i am thinking from those minds who have it, i know you are saying not exactly that but l80 of those, what do you think??? anybody even ever noticed there were 2 lv71 savage scythe in the game? if there will be lv80 version of them, the shine, the superiority of the lv71 black dragon set will fell down, alot, and there will be a time where people will think those who have lv71 black dragon sets are hackers and they hacked pl or glitched it.

[Zeiryan]

Ignited, I agree with much of what you said. I hardly ever hear of anyone whining in-game or elsewhere about 71 elites. Some people see my old vanities and such and ask where I got them and say they hope they'll have the chance one day to get something like them, but that's the end of it. They don't carry on and they don't demand STS bring them back. We are no longer in the 70s as far as character caps go. You now have the elite rings and the new special elite items, some of which are pretty OP. Who knows, maybe one day STS will boost the cap to 81, 85, etc. and some of those items will be discontinued. For Golem, would you still feel the same then? Would you advocate that newer players get what you worked hard to get during the 80 cap campaign? The others are right, there has to be some kind of division amongst players so everyone doesn't look the same and doesn't have the same stuff. Maybe you should ask yourself what is the REAL reason you want black drag and 71 elites brought back. Is it because you think they look "cool?" Because aside from the procs like the EWT gives, what's the point of actually playing with them in the higher dungeons? Are appearances that important, or should practicality weigh in? Even if black drag was returned to the game, I can guarantee ability to craft a 3pc and combine with that black drag ring would not be restored, so if that's a reason you wanted it, it shouldn't be. In any event, for a game that was not supposed to be updated again, Cinco sure has gone out of his way to ensure that he gives us new content and some events. So, why not be happy with what they've done thus far, rather than continually asking for more more more? There might be one day in the future when they implement another limited-time event with a special dragon/dragon set as a bonus, who knows! You know, we just had a Halloween Event where players could get new re-colored vanities and purchase permanent costumes. Guess what?! The newer players coming in won't have that stuff, and even if STS recycles the events next year, the items likely won't be exactly the same. So there ya' go - you have something that can set you apart from the new players!

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[Buchmeister]

Dude I think what you are asking for is not possible. Yes Cinco is a pro at awesome updates but Cinco also has to take this in account:
Every old player who has been in the old days of PL and worked hard for the discontinued gear will be absolutely annoyed. There has to be some sort of difference in old and new players. Trust me it isn't just about the money and how people who have spent millions on the sets which would cause an outrage on this idea, but old players want to be able to show that they were there at the beginning of PL's life. Otherwise everyone would look the same. This idea might be good if they were planning to sunset the game, which would give chances to the slightly newer players to obtain and try out these old sets. Otherwise, sorry to disappoint you man but I highly doubt this going to happen. Cinco is already doing a great job with his creation of new items. Almost everyone is happy with his new work. Instead if he does something like this, many individuals may start disliking the idea.

I don't agree, I think bringing black drag (and other discontinued gear) back would be an excellent idea. If it really was as difficult as I hear it is to get, nothing will change. Having discontinued gear like this encourages people to offer them for real cash, which has happened more times to me than I'd like to admit. And to be honest, having the L71 elites back would be fun, their procs are some of the coolest in the game. It just seems biased to me to try separate old gens and new gens when the truth is, we're all here to play Pocket Legends. Showing off how long you have been on the game is what vanities are for.

[Suentous PO]

It just seems biased to me to try separate old gens and new gens when the truth is, we're all here to play Pocket Legends. Showing off how long you have been on the game is what vanities are for.

Again, only bringing back old things seems to me to be biased against old players who won't want what they already have and drive more vets away.

[Xyzther]

How about we bring back COP, SoH, MFA, Volcano Helm, and Wammo the hammo? Also don't forget Lv 2 wand and bracer. Why not make plat tradable while we're at it, and Founder buyable for 250 plat

[curvature]

How about we bring back COP, SoH, MFA, Volcano Helm, and Wammo the hammo? Also don't forget Lv 2 wand and bracer. Why not make plat tradable while we're at it, and Founder buyable for 250 plat

Also add humanian faces in the magic mirror for 5 plat, because new players deserve only the best... Lmao they prob don't even know half the things they ask for. they just want a recolored version because they're too lazy to farm/ merch for it

[Graveyard]

B) Black drag set 550k non negotiateable

Back in my day black drag was earnt now it's worth pocket change

[Burningdex]

How about we bring back COP, SoH, MFA, Volcano Helm, and Wammo the hammo? Also don't forget Lv 2 wand and bracer. Why not make plat tradable while we're at it, and Founder buyable for 250 plat
ily
/11char

[ryanbemani1]

I don't agree, I think bringing black drag (and other discontinued gear) back would be an excellent idea. If it really was as difficult as I hear it is to get, nothing will change. Having discontinued gear like this encourages people to offer them for real cash, which has happened more times to me than I'd like to admit. And to be honest, having the L71 elites back would be fun, their procs are some of the coolest in the game. It just seems biased to me to try separate old gens and new gens when the truth is, we're all here to play Pocket Legends. Showing off how long you have been on the game is what vanities are for.

Simply don't do things against TOS then. And even if you do, then it's your risk of ban. This is the whole point of old disc items. It provides a challenge to get them but then again it's highly likely you will get scammed so hopefully STS sorts that out. Still, it ruins it for old players as these were limited time items that dropped. It is something unique to players of that time. Besides, they aren't the most powerful items in game and there are other cheaper vanities or sets you can use to look good. Think of alternatives guys.

[Ignitedmage]

Ignited, I agree with much of what you said. I hardly ever hear of anyone whining in-game or elsewhere about 71 elites. Some people see my old vanities and such and ask where I got them and say they hope they'll have the chance one day to get something like them, but that's the end of it. They don't carry on and they don't demand STS bring them back. We are no longer in the 70s as far as character caps go. You now have the elite rings and the new special elite items, some of which are pretty OP. Who knows, maybe one day STS will boost the cap to 81, 85, etc. and some of those items will be discontinued. For Golem, would you still feel the same then? Would you advocate that newer players get what you worked hard to get during the 80 cap campaign? The others are right, there has to be some kind of division amongst players so everyone doesn't look the same and doesn't have the same stuff. Maybe you should ask yourself what is the REAL reason you want black drag and 71 elites brought back. Is it because you think they look "cool?" Because aside from the procs like the EWT gives, what's the point of actually playing with them in the higher dungeons? Are appearances that important, or should practicality weigh in? Even if black drag was returned to the game, I can guarantee ability to craft a 3pc and combine with that black drag ring would not be restored, so if that's a reason you wanted it, it shouldn't be. In any event, for a game that was not supposed to be updated again, Cinco sure has gone out of his way to ensure that he gives us new content and some events. So, why not be happy with what they've done thus far, rather than continually asking for more more more? There might be one day in the future when they implement another limited-time event with a special dragon/dragon set as a bonus, who knows! You know, we just had a Halloween Event where players could get new re-colored vanities and purchase permanent costumes. Guess what?! The newer players coming in won't have that stuff, and even if STS recycles the events next year, the items likely won't be exactly the same. So there ya' go - you have something that can set you apart from the new players!

156513

Please bring them to paragraphs because you always have a strong point of view and talk (or better term would be write) great but it is seriously hard to read that all in one paragraph, seriously...

Also to golem when you mentioned "than continually asking more and more and more?", i shouldn't say this but playing AL did made him think PL is AL, the official PL players who didn't played AL or atleast didn't played it as a main never expected an update back in 2014, and totally opposite to it if at that time anyone would ask or suggest for an update the whole community would turn over that guy quote it, gives the link or just "scold" him that THERE WILL BE NO UPDATES (which surprisingly doesn't happens now). After getting no update in 2015 no one expected this update, stop asking for more updates.... they already updated even after saying no....

Its like a daddy refusing his child to buy a chocolate for him but then buys it when he sees his son sad face..... but you won't get more of them, the dad was firm, is firm and will be firm in his decision, it's just the love in him for his child which make him change his decision a little bit, but not totally, you gotta understand it because apparently a child who cries for more and more chocolate is not elder then 4 obviously(sorry golem, i just want you to understand it, understand the truth, i have no intentions of calling you a "kid") so just stop it, accept the truth, and just thank them that they are still updating this game, i would say this is THE CHOSEN ONE, otherwise not only PL was neglected, SL, DL, and those other two games(which i don't know the name) were also neglected and in this present day, they are literally gone, if STS is again and again reviving this game, be thankful, don't ask for more..

[Zeiryan]

Please bring them to paragraphs because you always have a strong point of view and talk (or better term would be write) great but it is seriously hard to read that all in one paragraph, seriously...

Also to golem when you mentioned "than continually asking more and more and more?", i shouldn't say this but playing AL did made him think PL is AL, the official PL players who didn't played AL or atleast didn't played it as a main never expected an update back in 2014, and totally opposite to it if at that time anyone would ask or suggest for an update the whole community would turn over that guy quote it, gives the link or just "scold" him that THERE WILL BE NO UPDATES (which surprisingly doesn't happens now). After getting no update in 2015 no one expected this update, stop asking for more updates.... they already updated even after saying no....

Its like a daddy refusing his child to buy a chocolate for him but then buys it when he sees his son sad face..... but you won't get more of them, the dad was firm, is firm and will be firm in his decision, it's just the love in him for his child which make him change his decision a little bit, but not totally, you gotta understand it because apparently a child who cries for more and more chocolate is not elder then 4 obviously(sorry golem, i just want you to understand it, understand the truth, i have no intentions of calling you a "kid") so just stop it, accept the truth, and just thank them that they are still updating this game, i would say this is THE CHOSEN ONE, otherwise not only PL was neglected, SL, DL, and those other two games(which i don't know the name) were also neglected and in this present day, they are literally gone, if STS is again and again reviving this game, be thankful, don't ask for more..

Boy, that was confusing and hard to read...if we're really going to start talking about writing/grammar skills here; but I think I got the gist of it.

[Ignitedmage]

Boy, that was confusing and hard to read...if we're really going to start talking about writing/grammar skills here; but I think I got the gist of it.

not talking about your grammar and writing skills man, don't turn over me, i just advising you to get your message, into paragraphs, much more easier to read..

[Zeiryan]

not talking about your grammar and writing skills man, don't turn over me, i just advising you to get your message, into paragraphs, much more easier to read..

Lol, well if you can figure out how to do that from the Chrome version of Tapatalk, more power to ya'! Unfortunately, when you try to press "enter" or "return," it submits the message.

[Ignitedmage]

Lol, well if you can figure out how to do that from the Chrome version of Tapatalk, more power to ya'! Unfortunately, when you try to press "enter" or "return," it submits the message.

Awww didn't knew that, my bad.

But a suggestion to get rid of that not helping mobile version of the forums, i guess you scroll totally down and click a button or a link written down there, it gets you to the PC version of the forums.

[Zeiryan]

Awww didn't knew that, my bad.

But a suggestion to get rid of that not helping mobile version of the forums, i guess you scroll totally down and click a button or a link written down there, it gets you to the PC version of the forums.

Thanks, I'll look for it. I also have Tapatalk on my Samsung Galaxy and it works nicely, but the Chrome version is crazy lol. :D

[Ignitedmage]

Thanks, I'll look for it. I also have Tapatalk on my Samsung Galaxy and it works nicely, but the Chrome version is crazy lol. :D

Ask me for literraly one year i didn't even knew you can even do it and i had to wait for like 5 or 6 hours (my mom set me timings for me to play computer...) to get onto forums.... i guess dumb me :P :D

[Buchmeister]

Simply don't do things against TOS then. And even if you do, then it's your risk of ban. This is the whole point of old disc items. It provides a challenge to get them but then again it's highly likely you will get scammed so hopefully STS sorts that out. Still, it ruins it for old players as these were limited time items that dropped. It is something unique to players of that time. Besides, they aren't the most powerful items in game and there are other cheaper vanities or sets you can use to look good. Think of alternatives guys.

I don't do anything against TOS, but other people are encouraged too because there's no other way to get these items. And the only counterargument for not bringing them back is that "old gens will get mad". Well, tough luck. We should be focusing on getting newer players instead of trying to keeping the veterans happy. If they stayed since 20xx, great, but STS should be giving other players a chance. In the end, it really isn't new gens fault. It just comes down to when they discovered the game.

[Ignitedmage]

I don't do anything against TOS, but other people are encouraged too because there's no other way to get these items. And the only counterargument for not bringing them back is that "old gens will get mad". Well, tough luck. We should be focusing on getting newer players instead of trying to keeping the veterans happy. If they stayed since 20xx, great, but STS should be giving other players a chance. In the end, it really isn't new gens fault. It just comes down to when they discovered the game.

I have said it before and said it again, the old gens are also a part of this game and they are the ones who makes this game spicy by giving you a challenge. Take Mister Smith, Damiix, on lv35 they are the ones who i have alot problem beating(also humiii and many others but forget it i am just a nab), losing them (because getting them mad will apparently make them quit the game) will make the game lose that spice which is there for several years.

It would be a better idea to reskin some items or prolly make some new and get them into the game as only one time earn so that the new gens also have collection but the idea for getting back the old items is not smart.

[ryanbemani1]

I have said it before and said it again, the old gens are also a part of this game and they are the ones who makes this game spicy by giving you a challenge. Take Mister Smith, Damiix, on lv35 they are the ones who i have alot problem beating(also humiii and many others but forget it i am just a nab), losing them (because getting them mad will apparently make them quit the game) will make the game lose that spice which is there for several years.

It would be a better idea to reskin some items or prolly make some new and get them into the game as only one time earn so that the new gens also have collection but the idea for getting back the old items is not smart.

I absolutely agree with this Buch. You touched on a point and said that STS should be working to get more new players to the game. In that case, STS can do reskins or provide entirely new items or content. They do not need to bring old disc items back for whatever reason so new gens are happy. This way it ends well for everyone.

[Buchmeister]

I have said it before and said it again, the old gens are also a part of this game and they are the ones who makes this game spicy by giving you a challenge. Take Mister Smith, Damiix, on lv35 they are the ones who i have alot problem beating(also humiii and many others but forget it i am just a nab), losing them (because getting them mad will apparently make them quit the game) will make the game lose that spice which is there for several years.

It would be a better idea to reskin some items or prolly make some new and get them into the game as only one time earn so that the new gens also have collection but the idea for getting back the old items is not smart.

Again, it's biased of old gens to say the game entirely rests on their shoulders. The point of an MMORPG is for community to change and grow. I'm not saying bring back old items in general, old vanities are what show that you've been on for a long time. But keeping gear that is so unique and can't be found anywhere else in the game for people who just happened to play at that time is pretty awful. I wouldn't really care if STS even brought them back but lowered the drop rate. I'd still know that if I put in the effort, I can get it. It's a heck of a lot better than looking at a weapon and thinking how I could never get it simply because I started playing a few months (or years) after they discontinued it.

Proving that you're old gen in a game? That's what achievements and titles are for.

[CHINDUSTER]

TL;DR :cower:

[humiiii]

To make this short, only a few LEGIT oldgens are left in the game. I stopped counting the randoms who bought their founder/3pc. Sts is not gonna bring back old vanities for you randoms because oldgens deserve something different. Even though people got extremely rare vanities in the halloween plat pack ( like 2011 devil staff) which is a shame, sts will recolor old vanities.

[Buchmeister]

To make this short, only a few LEGIT oldgens are left in the game. I stopped counting the randoms who bought their founder/3pc. Sts is not gonna bring back old vanities for you randoms because oldgens deserve something different. Even though people got extremely rare vanities in the halloween plat pack ( like 2011 devil staff) which is a shame, sts will recolor old vanities.

Oh god I would hate if STS brought back old vanities. I still rue the day when they put big luck on daily, I had the original. I'm talking about discontinued gear. (although I don't really count holiday weapons, I'm talking about gear you could straight up farm/get from an NPC quest that was discontinued)

[Suentous PO]

Oh god I would hate if STS brought back old vanities. I still rue the day when they put big luck on daily,

Yet you want black drag back -.-

[curvature]

not talking about your grammar and writing skills man, don't turn over me, i just advising you to get your message, into paragraphs, much more easier to read..

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[Buchmeister]

Yet you want black drag back -.-

Uncrafted Black drag is armor....

[Golem]

This idea would change everything =) lets be honest doing this is going forward to the pl good future!!! Lets not be selfish lets share those good feels when you wear something cool you like runs around in towns like a crazy = )))))

[Apa]

This idea would change everything =) lets be honest doing this is going forward to the pl good future!!! Lets not be selfish lets share those good feels when you wear something cool you like runs around in towns like a crazy = )))))

Won't be so cool when theres many of 71 elites even when its recoloured

[Buchmeister]

This idea would change everything =) lets be honest doing this is going forward to the pl good future!!! Lets not be selfish lets share those good feels when you wear something cool you like runs around in towns like a crazy = )))))

I support this, but the only thing stopping STS is the pushback they'll get from the people who already have L71 elites

[Suentous PO]

Uncrafted Black drag is armor....

It's armor you turn into a vanity for good rings unless you want to keep it as armor with bad stats( that no one uses).
You just said you were mad when they brought back something you valued, yet keep asking for a different re release that would tick people off but that's ok by you. Ridiculous

[Buchmeister]

It's armor you turn into a vanity for good rings unless you want to keep it as armor with bad stats( that no one uses).
You just said you were mad when they brought back something you valued, yet keep asking for a different re release that would tick people off but that's ok by you. Ridiculous

Read the post, I said I don't support bringing back vanities. That would be a bad idea.

[Golem]

ik this is awesome idea = ) ppl will love this!!!
just wait for those items = ) they will be back for us = )
we want good future! : ) this is how we get it! a good step to it!
suentouspo and your 10 other accounts stop fighting against this good idea. you had your items for almost 3 years i think u enjoyed enought whatever you did so now its time for thousands of other players to enjoy. u alone cant be like thousands of players. i blieve if someone like you be sad for this idea it dosnt matter : ) there is else than you playing this game. i said those things with respect and i hope you understand me

[Cinco]

With respect: thread closed.