Greoatef
11-07-2016, 08:22 AM
Rank System Dynamics and Gameplay progression, 1000 coin cap.
Im Lightbearer 72k points, current coins are at 1000 and i have around 100 bronze coffers stashed.
This thread is primarily to examine the Ranking and coin system for the new expansion, and address the issue of coin capping at 1000 coins, and how the community stage system is not balanced for the current end gamer imho.
Those of us players that are the forunners of the expansion and have reached Lightbearer Rank or above already, are struggling with max coins and max inventory slots for bronze coffers etc etc etc and are currently stuck in our game progression and have nothing to do till stage 4 kicks in which is months away?!?!??
Many of my friends and game colleagues are already in the same position as myself outlined above, which is frustrating. And we no longer have the motivation to continue playing the new expansion and completing the daily quests as we are constantly struggling with the current coin cap .... in truth are literally "dumping" the hard earned coins we have farmed .... and we now have nothing to strive for or aim towards.
We are only at the start of stage two, and stage three is many weeks away by the look of the community goal bar. But even when stage three goes live we will STILL have nothing to do, and STILL have coin cap at 1000?
If you look at the progression outlined below you can see that even when stage three begins we can only constructively spend 300 coins ... Proof of balance disciple 150 coins and Honour Order badge 150 coins.
Many friends already have this amount of coins stashed in bronze coffers, so even when stage three starts we have nothing to do but wait for all the stage four benefits?
Stage three i think is empty of things to do, and yet stage four is loaded with items to spend coins on?
Endgamers are already stuck with game progression, and for me the expansion has now ground to a halt, and i will have to wait for months until stage four and something to do :(
Now ... looking at the stages and what is available at each stage it all seems unbalanced to me?
I think at the very least in order to motivate players, Proof of balance lightbearer 300 coins, Exemplary Order badge 250 coins, Gold coffer 21 coins, Empty Elixir vial 20 coins, Balanced Armour 800 coins and Balanced Helm 800 coins, should all be moved from stage four into stage three so we can run the next stage with game progression and motivation, and we can continue to rank up along with spending coins effectively?
It will give us something to do and motivate us to do the community dailies (which some of us cant be bothered to do any more because we are not getting any where) instead of all waiting for stage four which has a heap of things to do, and thousands of coins to collect and spend only at that time ... which we could be doing right now?!?!?!
I may also go so far as to suggest we can start spending coins on Balanced bars right now .... as to craft Balanced weapons we will need 5 of these bars which is 2500 coins? Leave the possibility to craft the weapons where they are for sure .... ie need to be exalted and be at community stage four, so the weapons are exclusive to those that have achieved exalted rank. But we could be gathering the balanced bars now while we hunt for the scales and rank up ... ie motivation and a goal.
I dont think the coin capping is actually the problem .... i think the content available in the different stages needs to be shuffled a little?
Brief outline of whats available to us to spend coins on at what stage:
Outsider
Apprentice 2k points
Acolyte 6K points
Advocate 16k points
Disciple 30k points
Lightbearer 55k points
Lightbearer Elite 115k points
Exalted ... questline.
Stage one
Proof of balance acolyte 75 coins
Order badge 75 coins
Bronze coffer 2 coins
guessing a little as i completed this weeks ago?
stage two
Proof of balance advocate 100 coins
Order badge 100 coins
Bronze coffer 2 coins
guessing a little as i completed this weeks ago?
stage three
Proof of balance disciple 150 coins
Honour Order badge 150 coins
Silver coffer 7 coins
stage four
Proof of balance lightbearer 300 coins
Exemplary Order badge 250 coins
Gold coffer 21 coins
Empty Elixir vial 20 coins
Balanced Armour 800 coins
Balanced Helm 800 coins
Exalted title required:
Proof of balance exalted 800 coins
Balance Bar 500 coins
Recipe Illuminating Belt Upgrade 600 coins
Imbalanced weapons (various) 600
Voice of the Order belt 800 coins
CRAFTING: ALL at stage four.
Enlightened belt ........... 1 x Illuminated belt, 1 x Recipe Illuminated belt upgrade, 1 x Arcane Shard.
Balance Weapon Upgrade ..... 10 x Condensed Dark Powder, 10 x Condensed Light Powder, 5 x Apostle Elixir, 5 x Templar Elixir, 5 x Balanced Bar, 5 x Balanced Scale, 1 x Imbalanced Weapon x 1
At some stage before a hotfix i think these two were craftable, but they have disappeared from crafting list so i cant remember exactly what was required?
Apostle Elixir ..... 1 x Empty Elixir Vial 20 coins, 5 x Condensed Dark Powder
Templar Elixir ..... 1 x Empty Elixir Vial 20 coins, 5 x Condensed Light Powder
Illuminated Belt ... no idea where we get this?
Balanced Scale ..... ive seen this looted from the Somberholt boss.
Im going to ignore all the pinks available for coins like the balanced sash's for 500 coins, and he Ebb Loop, glow braid, timeworn horn etc etc etc for 200 coins as these are all cheaply available in cs, and looted fairly often while running the various maps.
anyhows .. thats my two cents worth ....
Greo
Im Lightbearer 72k points, current coins are at 1000 and i have around 100 bronze coffers stashed.
This thread is primarily to examine the Ranking and coin system for the new expansion, and address the issue of coin capping at 1000 coins, and how the community stage system is not balanced for the current end gamer imho.
Those of us players that are the forunners of the expansion and have reached Lightbearer Rank or above already, are struggling with max coins and max inventory slots for bronze coffers etc etc etc and are currently stuck in our game progression and have nothing to do till stage 4 kicks in which is months away?!?!??
Many of my friends and game colleagues are already in the same position as myself outlined above, which is frustrating. And we no longer have the motivation to continue playing the new expansion and completing the daily quests as we are constantly struggling with the current coin cap .... in truth are literally "dumping" the hard earned coins we have farmed .... and we now have nothing to strive for or aim towards.
We are only at the start of stage two, and stage three is many weeks away by the look of the community goal bar. But even when stage three goes live we will STILL have nothing to do, and STILL have coin cap at 1000?
If you look at the progression outlined below you can see that even when stage three begins we can only constructively spend 300 coins ... Proof of balance disciple 150 coins and Honour Order badge 150 coins.
Many friends already have this amount of coins stashed in bronze coffers, so even when stage three starts we have nothing to do but wait for all the stage four benefits?
Stage three i think is empty of things to do, and yet stage four is loaded with items to spend coins on?
Endgamers are already stuck with game progression, and for me the expansion has now ground to a halt, and i will have to wait for months until stage four and something to do :(
Now ... looking at the stages and what is available at each stage it all seems unbalanced to me?
I think at the very least in order to motivate players, Proof of balance lightbearer 300 coins, Exemplary Order badge 250 coins, Gold coffer 21 coins, Empty Elixir vial 20 coins, Balanced Armour 800 coins and Balanced Helm 800 coins, should all be moved from stage four into stage three so we can run the next stage with game progression and motivation, and we can continue to rank up along with spending coins effectively?
It will give us something to do and motivate us to do the community dailies (which some of us cant be bothered to do any more because we are not getting any where) instead of all waiting for stage four which has a heap of things to do, and thousands of coins to collect and spend only at that time ... which we could be doing right now?!?!?!
I may also go so far as to suggest we can start spending coins on Balanced bars right now .... as to craft Balanced weapons we will need 5 of these bars which is 2500 coins? Leave the possibility to craft the weapons where they are for sure .... ie need to be exalted and be at community stage four, so the weapons are exclusive to those that have achieved exalted rank. But we could be gathering the balanced bars now while we hunt for the scales and rank up ... ie motivation and a goal.
I dont think the coin capping is actually the problem .... i think the content available in the different stages needs to be shuffled a little?
Brief outline of whats available to us to spend coins on at what stage:
Outsider
Apprentice 2k points
Acolyte 6K points
Advocate 16k points
Disciple 30k points
Lightbearer 55k points
Lightbearer Elite 115k points
Exalted ... questline.
Stage one
Proof of balance acolyte 75 coins
Order badge 75 coins
Bronze coffer 2 coins
guessing a little as i completed this weeks ago?
stage two
Proof of balance advocate 100 coins
Order badge 100 coins
Bronze coffer 2 coins
guessing a little as i completed this weeks ago?
stage three
Proof of balance disciple 150 coins
Honour Order badge 150 coins
Silver coffer 7 coins
stage four
Proof of balance lightbearer 300 coins
Exemplary Order badge 250 coins
Gold coffer 21 coins
Empty Elixir vial 20 coins
Balanced Armour 800 coins
Balanced Helm 800 coins
Exalted title required:
Proof of balance exalted 800 coins
Balance Bar 500 coins
Recipe Illuminating Belt Upgrade 600 coins
Imbalanced weapons (various) 600
Voice of the Order belt 800 coins
CRAFTING: ALL at stage four.
Enlightened belt ........... 1 x Illuminated belt, 1 x Recipe Illuminated belt upgrade, 1 x Arcane Shard.
Balance Weapon Upgrade ..... 10 x Condensed Dark Powder, 10 x Condensed Light Powder, 5 x Apostle Elixir, 5 x Templar Elixir, 5 x Balanced Bar, 5 x Balanced Scale, 1 x Imbalanced Weapon x 1
At some stage before a hotfix i think these two were craftable, but they have disappeared from crafting list so i cant remember exactly what was required?
Apostle Elixir ..... 1 x Empty Elixir Vial 20 coins, 5 x Condensed Dark Powder
Templar Elixir ..... 1 x Empty Elixir Vial 20 coins, 5 x Condensed Light Powder
Illuminated Belt ... no idea where we get this?
Balanced Scale ..... ive seen this looted from the Somberholt boss.
Im going to ignore all the pinks available for coins like the balanced sash's for 500 coins, and he Ebb Loop, glow braid, timeworn horn etc etc etc for 200 coins as these are all cheaply available in cs, and looted fairly often while running the various maps.
anyhows .. thats my two cents worth ....
Greo