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dudetus
09-27-2011, 12:07 AM
As we all know the prices of the endgame equipment has gone out of the control. Demonic set costs way over 10mil. That's just outrageous since there are very few people who actually have the money to buy for it.

My first endgame char was in ao3. The new void set was released for my bird. What did the most expensive set cost back then? Bird mb set was about 1m (compare to nowadays autobow set).

Then they released the sewers. The endgame prices had a huge leap.

And once again when nuri came out we had even greater leap.

I understand that the prices of the new endgame equipment goes higher every time. It's just normal to be greedy but what about when the cap is raised to for an example to 81? Laser shooting bow of awesomeness set costs 150m?

I know some people may take this lightly but this seriously is a big problem. A common player just don't have enough money to keep up with the ridicilious prices and even greater amount of ppl have to stay with bad endgame equipment. It's always more fun to play a game where ppl actually can buy equipment.

The fews who have the time to farm or are skilled merchers just go richer and richer and common players realize that they can't even afford a simple leather scrap.

stevieoopsie
09-27-2011, 12:18 AM
What do you propose then? Socialism? Force the skilled farmers and rich merchants to pay taxes to fund welfare for the relative poor?

Otukura
09-27-2011, 12:18 AM
Force the skilled farmers and rich merchants to pay taxes to fund welfare for the relative poor. 'nuff said.

Win.

Ellyidol
09-27-2011, 12:20 AM
Although you're right, you can try looking at it from a different angle.

You're looking at buying the gear, but what about selling them? You'd also earn high.

Also, you're looking at pure gold earned from past campaigns versus the current gold and gear gain, but what about trading? Mace for bow, staff for wand, etc.

I personally walked into Nuri's with only 200k in my pocket and a Custom set and was able to walk out with a lot lot more. However, I did spend the time to farm and work for the gear, which shouldn't be an issue. Players get what they work for, like anything in life.

I do wonder though if some sort of gold sink or deflation system would be put in place, I can see what you mean by later level caps making gear cost that much.

stevieoopsie
09-27-2011, 12:21 AM
Which will only create an incentive for the unskilled to never acquire a skill and a disincentive for the skilled to continue working hard, which is exactly the reason today's Greece is bankrupt 30 times over. Where do you draw the lines?

Zaltiar
09-27-2011, 12:38 AM
Hm its true that prices for end game items are right at the moment. But thats the way it goes whenever a new item comes out into the market.
Theres high demand and little supply, sellers have a monopoly on what prices they put it up for. Since they know there's players out there who would spend big bucks just to get their hands on the latest items. But, as the "older" glyph set items, prices will deflate back to normal. give it a few weeks or so.
Also, you have to realize, theres a ton lot more money in the pl economy right now than way back. Prices will always be rising, but hopefully so will the pl economy.
or else, no one would be able to afford anything lol.

dudetus
09-27-2011, 12:40 AM
What I thought was like a certain maximum price for endgame equipment.

But yet again how is it possible to execute it?

Ellyidol
09-27-2011, 12:43 AM
What I thought was like a certain maximum price for endgame equipment.

But yet again how is it possible to execute it?

The max for any item, assuming nothing else changes, is 9.999m; the character gold-cap which means the trade gold cap as well.

dudetus
09-27-2011, 12:44 AM
Ofc I understand it Whirlz and acutally I realiaed this after I read ur topic about money. I umderstand that there's more and more money but I won't pay that 150m for laser shooting set of awesomeness.

It demands even more and more farm/merching to get that eauipment.

rookizpro
09-27-2011, 12:47 AM
ok look it must b hard nit haveing gold for stuff u want well do wut otha players in game do make runs thro low lv dungunes n farm pots so u dnt waste gold on that n think of wut happens if cap raises so dose the gold n newer dungunes made also think of how long it takes for pple to get that gear im mean look ive playd pl since lower lv pple could join n higher dungunes and boost for real for instance i have all of voodo set but robes and instead of buying it for almost 100k for lv 35 item i help pple lv up an try to get it my self it takes awhile to get wut u want it may b a game but time n dedication get u wut eva u want in time with paticents

Nightarcher
09-27-2011, 12:53 AM
It's called inflation.

There's a natural ebb and flow of prices when new content comes out, but there's also a steady decrease in the value of gold. Everyone's accumulating so much that we don't know what to do with it, and it's reflected in the prices we set on the best items. The real issue is the lack of an endgame gold sink.

Sure, if you get lucky with drops you can catch up. But otherwise, it does drive a friggin' huge wedge between the rich and poor. I agree that it's an issue.

pastrychef
09-27-2011, 02:02 AM
I see absolutely nothing wrong with the pricing. It's supply and demand.

Maynard
09-27-2011, 02:07 AM
It's an issue. I have many friends who will not play anymore because they don't have the time to devote their life to the game. They have fallen so far behind that it is easier to move on to other games that do not require the intense time investment just to keep even. Most have families. The long term success and survival of a game demands mass appeal, not just an appeal to the elite who have massive amounts of time that they are able to invest.

elianel
09-27-2011, 02:22 AM
yeup the price is crazy what they thing we have family
is cane frustration when want something for your set and you can not buy or never get that drop

arqueroverde
09-27-2011, 02:57 AM
If you can still enjoy playing with "obsolete" equipment, (by obsolete I mean the items that used to be the top notch equipment), or play with the new pinks that are not the current top notch pinks, then you can save allot of gold and plat. I left two other games that were getting too expensive to play and decided to give PL a try. A couple months later, I am at level 56 and enjoying playing 5 levels behind the big guns and using nice but not ridiculously expensive equipment.

I have a demanding job, a wife and a new son who will be coming home from the hospital for the first time in six months since he was born. I have nothing to prove here playing PL, so I do not have a need to have the current greatest high demand equipment. I am just here to have fun playing with other people.

At some point, I may decide to leave PL and move on to another game. But as long as I am still having fun and not needing to spend too much time or money to be a strong beneficial team mate, I will continue to play.

arq

Fairy
09-27-2011, 03:29 AM
yea... the prices are crazy. Thats why I still have my mm set with my lvl 60 mage, hahaha
I also have no time to farm the whole day for the new set. idc... lol

Kakatoa91
09-27-2011, 03:53 AM
I dont mind or care about high prices.
I rarely buy in cs, unless theres a real real good deal.
Im not a big spender anyway. Just selling excess if im not too lazy.
I like to wear what gears mobs drop me.
Yes my bear is in full glyph... too bad not all same for bonus lol.:D
But hey, im still good with it.
If ill get a complete glyph set great... a demonic later would be awesome... if not well no prob.

Barrington
09-27-2011, 04:01 AM
supply and demand
less of an item = higher cost
more of an item = lower cost

WhoIsThis
09-27-2011, 04:31 AM
The top end sets are expensive it is true, but that is because this is a relatively new campaign.

Actually, the slightly above top end sets like melodic and low end pinks are remarkably cheap and offer a good value. I would have to argue that for cost effective players, this new level has offered better value than previous levels. The low end pinks are all almost as good as their top end glyph counterparts, minus a set bonus.

Cahaun
09-27-2011, 04:46 AM
I barely got passed 100k gold in my entire life! HOW IS 260k CHEAP!?! :confused:

Mwayneo3
09-27-2011, 05:36 AM
I had a thread like this too I totaly agree with u

Moogerfooger
09-27-2011, 05:38 AM
As others have said before me, new sets always cost way more because they are "new and shiny". Custom Recurve sets were absolutely ridiculous for a few days once people got them....I got offered 6m for mine very early in Sewers, and in reality, 10m for Demonic is not *that* crazy compared to that when you think that people have farmed (or merched) for 7 months since Sewers came out and made a ton of gold. Is it silly expensive? Yes. Are people willing to spend it, whatever their reasons? Yes.

The reason prices are creeping up for endgame sets after each expansion is because there is more gold in the PL economy the longer the game is out, and people are willing to spend more. This happens in every game with an Auction House or CS that has ever existed....the people with the most money will spend it to have the best gear.

Does it disadvantage the casual player who really just plays for fun or has not spent hours farming? Sure. But that was their choice, for various reasons. But you can't penalize the players who did put the time to farm/merch/rob the STS bank vault of HoHos, RedBull and Cinco's gold stash.

The Vyx Helm of Hate once was going for 3-4mill, briefly. You can now get one for 100k.

WoundedEagle
09-27-2011, 05:47 AM
Just reading the comments on this are making me lol. :congratulatory:

Kelstrick
09-27-2011, 06:03 AM
Having just started PL in June, I totally feel your pain about not having a large bankroll to keep up with latest and greatest equipment.

With that said, I do enjoy the challenge of building a serviceable "poor man's" set up and agree with WhoIsThis that there is some great value play pinks to be found. (BTW, thanks Devs for giving us newer players w/out deep pockets the chance to have some solid gear at a reasonable price) For ex: compare the following 3 Bracers (sorry I'm a Mage so I only follow Mage gear. I'm assuming there are similar value plays for Birds & Bears)

Glyph Bracer of Charmin' Req: Level 60, 20 Int, 5% Crit, 5 H/s, 5 M/s, 9 Damage, 40 Armor
Nuri's Glyph Bracer Req: Level 60, 22 Int, 5% Crit, 5 H/s, 5 M/s, 8 Damage, 39 Armor
Imhotep Eye of Charmin' Req: Level 60, 20 Int, 5% Crit, 5 H/s, 5 M/s, 9 Damage, 41 Armor

As you can imagine the Glyph's are what some would say are crazy pricey at this time, but you can pick up an Imhotep Eye for less than 10K. Sure it doesn't look as cool, and doesn't generate a set bonus, however for a fraction of the cost you can find a piece of gear that is serviceable as you patiently wait for prices to fall and you build up a huge war chest in the mean time! Be patient, eventually there will be enough good drops to drive down prices or Mt Fang will come out with even more righteous gear causing Glyph/Demonic to fall.

Anyhow, go check out Yanis' awesome list of Nuri Pinks and build yourself a solid "poor man's" set. I believe you'll find some satisfaction in having a solid set of equipment at rock bottom prices and then laugh to yourself when Glyph/Demonic becomes "obsolete" and you pick it up at a 1/4 of today's prices. (Which is how I liberated my MM set and made the run from 55 to 60 in that load out...)

Good luck and I hope to see you at the Circus!

Moogerfooger
09-27-2011, 06:14 AM
As you can imagine the Glyph's are what some would say are crazy pricey at this time, but you can pick up an Imhotep Eye for less than 10K. Sure it doesn't look as cool, and doesn't generate a set bonus, however for a fraction of the cost you can find a piece of gear that is serviceable as you patiently wait for prices to fall and you build up a huge war chest in the mean time! Be patient, eventually there will be enough good drops to drive down prices or Mt Fang will come out with even more righteous gear causing Glyph/Demonic to fall.

Anyhow, go check out Yanis' awesome list of Nuri Pinks and build yourself a solid "poor man's" set. I believe you'll find some satisfaction in having a solid set of equipment at rock bottom prices and then laugh to yourself when Glyph/Demonic becomes "obsolete" and you pick it up at a 1/4 of today's prices. (Which is how I liberated my MM set and made the run from 55 to 60 in that load out...)

Good luck and I hope to see you at the Circus!

Exactly. Same follows for the dex sets...the Glyph Mimicry is pretty solid, and even cheaper bows/daggers/wing shields that are less than 10% of Obedience cost are completely useful....maybe not new and shiny like the Demonic/Obedience/Charmin'/Strongman sets with their bonuses, but player skill can easily overcome any advantage from set bonuses. One of the best archers in the game used a green set all the way through Sewers, I think he spent like 60k on it at the time people were playing 1m-3m for Raid and Custom sets.

dudetus
09-27-2011, 06:24 AM
Aehm. Just for correction:

I made this thread in order to create a discussion about the prices not to flame about the prices.

I personally have Glyph Obe Dagger set + my farmed 2mil and I'm totally happy with it. Altough it was very kind of you Kelstrick to put help for a low budget l33t equipment I personally don't need it.

EDIT: Yeah cu on Nuri's! :)

apocketlegend
09-27-2011, 06:50 AM
Just keep farming. I went from simply 500k to 1.5 mil in one day by getting a lvl60 glyph strongman helmet.

PatsoeGamer
09-27-2011, 07:39 AM
Just reading the comments on this are making me lol. :congratulatory:

LQTM... Same!

Doubletime
09-27-2011, 07:40 AM
As Moog said before, new sparkly sets are the expensive ones right now and yes prices are pretty high. I think it really has to do with what happened in the Sewer campaign. For people that have been around awhile and quickly went to 55/56 in the Sewers, there wasn't a lot of other things to do except farm gear and pvp. So many many people farmed gear for months on end. Also, the Sewers basically had no "junk" or low-end pink drops. Every pink that dropped in the sewers was basically a high end pink -- so prices for many of those items never dropped. If you wanted to have end-game gear, you farmed it or bought it for a set.

The amount of time between Nuri and the Sewers, combined with the steady prices of end-game pinks there, resulted in a pretty big accumulation of wealth by a lot of players. Many of them just banked money in stash and on mules in anticipation of the Nuri campaign. So when it came out, many people for the first time had something to spend their gold on.

With the new equipment and the rarity of set items, prices naturally are high. Supply and demand. People will spend 2.5 Million on an Obedience cap because the money is there and the drops are rare. I have leveled 3 toons to 61 and in that time have recieved a total of 6 glyph drops (and none of them are the big ticket helms, bows, or wands). So drops are rare. I see them. Some have gotten more. Some have gotten less. The prices of these items will drop with time. But it will be a while.

In the mean time we are just dealing with the result of the Sewers being released for so long and the steady growth in wealth because of it. For the casual player it will be tough for a while. But in the end really all you are paying all that extra gold for is some sparkles and a little ego. The other Nuri gear is cheap and very effective for toons. And for casual players that really should be good enough until they either get a few good drops or the next campaign comes out and the bottom falls out of the current market and moves on to the next set of gear.

Just my thoughts, anyway.

StompArtist
09-27-2011, 07:43 AM
What do you propose then? Socialism? Force the skilled farmers and rich merchants to pay taxes to fund welfare for the relative poor?

That's a great idea if you're poor.

krazii
09-27-2011, 08:25 AM
It's an issue. I have many friends who will not play anymore because they don't have the time to devote their life to the game. They have fallen so far behind that it is easier to move on to other games that do not require the intense time investment just to keep even. Most have families. The long term success and survival of a game demands mass appeal, not just an appeal to the elite who have massive amounts of time that they are able to invest.

Preach on Brotha!!!!, PL has changed from the innocent, fun game it use to be (up through ao3) to a hardcore, elite player focused, $$ machine. Most MMO's do his as they gain popularity. I remember what got me hooked was the fun and sense of accomplishment you could get every time you logged in to play for an hour or two. Now, it's just endless hours of grinding the same maps. The only reason I play at all anymore is just to see friends and I don't particularly look forward to the next update. I'm quite surprised that STS hasn't implemented more side game features (QUESTS) to keep us all interested that gives similar rewards to the cyber quests. Those were great quests and gave you something similar to elite pinks for your time and effort.

CrimsonTider
09-27-2011, 10:53 AM
And then there is Crim.....

I am taking the AO3/Shadow/Sewer/Sandstone approach: Patience is a virtue. I currently own the three pink sets which do not give bonuses and I perform just fine without the sparkles. As others have said, prices will begin to lower once 1) Mt. Fang is released and 2) more people reach level 60.

My advice is to cash in on pink drops and build your gold up this way. Good luck!

modredd
09-27-2011, 11:13 AM
If it's funny the rich always want to stay rich and the poor always wish they were rich.
I will say I don't see a lot of generocity in the game anymore, I've given away millions to other players.
But if you need a dime Good luck find it now unless you're in the guild and even then that's no guarantee.
The game reflect society in it's all about status, when I decided to play to have fun not win pinks I enjoyed it a lot more!

pastrychef
09-27-2011, 01:12 PM
And then there is Crim.....

I am taking the AO3/Shadow/Sewer/Sandstone approach: Patience is a virtue. I currently own the three pink sets which do not give bonuses and I perform just fine without the sparkles. As others have said, prices will begin to lower once 1) Mt. Fang is released and 2) more people reach level 60.

My advice is to cash in on pink drops and build your gold up this way. Good luck!

Glyph Big Top is better than Strongman Glyph anyway.

ocagrevy
09-27-2011, 01:18 PM
Prices are fine... no need to devote your life i work 12hrs a day 7 days a week and i keep up just fine. all u need are basic math skills and a good drop every once in a while and your set.

ocagrevy
09-27-2011, 01:29 PM
Glyph Big Top is better than Strongman Glyph anyway.

How? Big top cant be crafted into demonic.

Charmstrange
09-27-2011, 01:44 PM
Go look in the cs at L55 premium gear; if anything, prices are ridiculously low for that level compared to a couple weeks ago. This should actually make it easier for players to get awesome sets from sewers when they're starting the nuri campaign.

Maynard
09-27-2011, 01:45 PM
Prices are fine... no need to devote your life i work 12hrs a day 7 days a week and i keep up just fine. all u need are basic math skills and a good drop every once in a while and your set.
My point wasn't about a job, it related more to family. Add 2-3 kids and someone is paying the price.Not attacking anyone. Just wanted to clarify.

pastrychef
09-27-2011, 01:58 PM
How? Big top cant be crafted into demonic.

It's all about the dodge... Especially for a tank.

Nightarcher
09-27-2011, 06:15 PM
I can't imagine the ludicrous prices we'll see on Mt. Fang items when it's released. :hororr:

milikechicken
09-27-2011, 06:49 PM
tbh (to be honest) just farm 24/7 :) u'll get something :D

nmyxspaceship
09-27-2011, 07:13 PM
Yeah bro you should really farm for crafting prices like para aramid or glyphic metal and would. In the last 2 days Ive made at least 2mil coins. Just takes a little work:)

Riccits
09-28-2011, 08:25 AM
I can't imagine the ludicrous prices we'll see on Mt. Fang items when it's released. :hororr:

should it be a real elite dugeon (who ever said it??) u can calc the prices of actually going demonic pieces. so around 10-15mil a set.

StompArtist
09-28-2011, 08:36 AM
Too much money in game.

Riccits
09-28-2011, 09:10 AM
btw how to trade such a set if limit is 10mil..? LOL!

if someone wants just one piece he can say, sell me that pice first then rest, and after disappear and u have a half set left...

13lacklegionz
09-28-2011, 10:51 AM
As we all know the prices of the endgame equipment has gone out of the control. Demonic set costs way over 10mil. That's just outrageous since there are very few people who actually have the money to buy for it.

My first endgame char was in ao3. The new void set was released for my bird. What did the most expensive set cost back then? Bird mb set was about 1m (compare to nowadays autobow set).

Then they released the sewers. The endgame prices had a huge leap.

And once again when nuri came out we had even greater leap.

I understand that the prices of the new endgame equipment goes higher every time. It's just normal to be greedy but what about when the cap is raised to for an example to 81? Laser shooting bow of awesomeness set costs 150m?

I know some people may take this lightly but this seriously is a big problem. A common player just don't have enough money to keep up with the ridicilious prices and even greater amount of ppl have to stay with bad endgame equipment. It's always more fun to play a game where ppl actually can buy equipment.

The fews who have the time to farm or are skilled merchers just go richer and richer and common players realize that they can't even afford a simple leather scrap.

Well if you have the time to talk about this, go farm and merchant skillfully and become "richer and richer." All the best merchants were "common players" before. And if you can't afford a leather scrap, that's a serious problem.

csb
09-28-2011, 11:37 AM
It's an issue. I have many friends who will not play anymore because they don't have the time to devote their life to the game. They have fallen so far behind that it is easier to move on to other games that do not require the intense time investment just to keep even. Most have families. The long term success and survival of a game demands mass appeal, not just an appeal to the elite who have massive amounts of time that they are able to invest.

I just use my fury set, and only do a few runs per day with my 57 warrior. I don't have a single glyph item. That's ok with me, I still like playing. But, you have to consider that being level 61 with the best gear is not necessarily a good thing. I wonder if such a person could actually get decent grades, have a job, or learn a RL skill.

wvhills
09-28-2011, 12:45 PM
I personally walked into Nuri's with only 200k in my pocket and a Custom set and was able to walk out with a lot lot more. However, I did spend the time to farm and work for the gear, which shouldn't be an issue. Players get what they work for, like anything in life.



That's because you got in and farmed a lot when glyph drops were common. What about the people who are just now getting in (now that glyph's never drop).

Also, u have a sterling reputation in PL and are very well known. People will trade /give stuff to you more readily than they will others who aren't as well known. There's nothing wrong with that, I'm just saying it may be harder for others who don't have the ability to come up with the guides and other helpful things that you have. :)

Singleteddy
09-28-2011, 07:49 PM
What do you propose then? Socialism? Force the skilled farmers and rich merchants to pay taxes to fund welfare for the relative poor? Seriously, I would be in favor of redenomination (that is, creating a new gold piece that is worth, for example, a hundred of the old ones). Would make Pocket Legends prices more like Star Legends prices. Would reduce the number of digits you have to type when listing items in CS. Might reduce the undercutting in CS a little bit.

Aki
09-28-2011, 08:51 PM
Seriously, I would be in favor of redenomination (that is, creating a new gold piece that is worth, for example, a hundred of the old ones). Would make Pocket Legends prices more like Star Legends prices. Would reduce the number of digits you have to type when listing items in CS. Might reduce the undercutting in CS a little bit.

I propose the new denomination be called: Crude Oil

Zeus
09-28-2011, 08:56 PM
btw how to trade such a set if limit is 10mil..? LOL!

if someone wants just one piece he can say, sell me that pice first then rest, and after disappear and u have a half set left...

I would do the logical thing; trade it in pieces. This way there will be no scam. It is still a bit illogical though that even the max gold cap can't buy you the best set in the game. When you see that, there are two things. Either gold has inflated too much or the gold cap is too low. I personally think it is gold inflation. I remember in the days when 3M used to be worth, in todays gold, 10M.

Riccits
09-29-2011, 06:11 AM
I would do the logical thing; trade it in pieces. This way there will be no scam. It is still a bit illogical though that even the max gold cap can't buy you the best set in the game. When you see that, there are two things. Either gold has inflated too much or the gold cap is too low. I personally think it is gold inflation. I remember in the days when 3M used to be worth, in todays gold, 10M.

how i said u can scam someone wich want to sell the full set and u want only 1 piece of it, to buy that piece and after disapper. the other have only a half set then...

CrimsonTider
09-29-2011, 06:31 AM
The true issue is the subjectivity used to determine an items "worth." I agree with rarity being a factor. But I feel that if a new item (glyphs) or only a slight upgrade to previous items (crafted sewers) then the price should reflect this. Increasing the new sets to where one item is worth three of the prevous "best" sets, that's a bit much.

But as I've mentioned before, a few weeks from now and the prices will be much lower due to more people being 60 and farming. Also, Mt. Fang is around the corner which will lead to another decrease which I find amusing. How can a set be worth 4-5 mil one week and 1-1.5 mil the next? This reflefts the gold inflation Apollo mentioned.

wvhills
09-29-2011, 07:19 AM
The true issue is the subjectivity used to determine an items "worth." I agree with rarity being a factor. But I feel that if a new item (glyphs) or only a slight upgrade to previous items (crafted sewers) then the price should reflect this. Increasing the new sets to where one item is worth three of the prevous "best" sets, that's a bit much.

But as I've mentioned before, a few weeks from now and the prices will be much lower due to more people being 60 and farming. Also, Mt. Fang is around the corner which will lead to another decrease which I find amusing. How can a set be worth 4-5 mil one week and 1-1.5 mil the next? This reflefts the gold inflation Apollo mentioned.

I think the problem is there's nothing to spend gold on besides potions and equips. There's a steady increase in the amount of in game gold through liquidating drops and opening chests with no real sink hole. Everyone is accumulating more and more gold so they have more to spend.

Singleteddy
09-29-2011, 02:38 PM
There's a steady increase in the amount of in game gold through liquidating drops and opening chests with no real sink hole. Everyone is accumulating more and more gold so they have more to spend. Well, PL could have a "gold standard" with a fixed amount of in-game currency or perhaps a fixed amount per-player. This would mean reducing gold from liquidation and chests and quest rewards to whatever amount had been removed from the game through CS fees and purchases from NPC merchants.

Yvonnel
09-29-2011, 03:23 PM
My 2 cents.....

The loss of gold elixirs. We had very limited people who were at gold cap. I remember when I started playing, Rift armor was like 400k and I was like no thanks.

Tapatalk'd from my PowerWashed Fascinate

StompArtist
09-29-2011, 03:26 PM
PL is going through a phase of hyper-inflation and the PL Government keeps printing more money! Simple as that.

Yvonnel
09-29-2011, 03:34 PM
PL is going through a phase of hyper-inflation and the PL Government keeps printing more money! Simple as that.

Ah ha! Stomp figured it out. Hide the gold smelting gear!

Tapatalk'd from my PowerWashed Fascinate

Spekticle
09-29-2011, 06:10 PM
As we all know the prices of the endgame equipment has gone out of the control. Demonic set costs way over 10mil. That's just outrageous since there are very few people who actually have the money to buy for it.

My first endgame char was in ao3. The new void set was released for my bird. What did the most expensive set cost back then? Bird mb set was about 1m (compare to nowadays autobow set).

Then they released the sewers. The endgame prices had a huge leap.

And once again when nuri came out we had even greater leap.

I understand that the prices of the new endgame equipment goes higher every time. It's just normal to be greedy but what about when the cap is raised to for an example to 81? Laser shooting bow of awesomeness set costs 150m?

I know some people may take this lightly but this seriously is a big problem. A common player just don't have enough money to keep up with the ridicilious prices and even greater amount of ppl have to stay with bad endgame equipment. It's always more fun to play a game where ppl actually can buy equipment.

The fews who have the time to farm or are skilled merchers just go richer and richer and common players realize that they can't even afford a simple leather scrap.

Uhmm...well thats what separates everything in life. Learn how to merch so you can get richer. Merch small valuable items such as SK leathers or bow. Try when you are on ONLY farm at Nuri's to try and get some good drops then go merch. Since PL is a very black and white mmorpg, they two main ways to make money is Farming and Merching.

Doubletime
09-29-2011, 06:24 PM
PL is going through a phase of hyper-inflation and the PL Government keeps printing more money! Simple as that.

Stomp -- I think your on to something. Maybe if we get the PL government to raise the debt ceiling we can all borrow gold against it's future value.

Whirlzap
09-29-2011, 06:29 PM
Wait but I'm one of the people shoving money into PL government!
Also, it's called luck!
For me, I have farmed over 100+ hours in Nuri so far, and that's still considered little compared to what I once farmed with.
And I only got 1 Glyph, and 2 Glyph Recipes.
The IRONNYYYYYYYYYY.

And again, dudetus, weren't you the one who also made a thread saying the drop rate for glyphs was too low?
Ohoho...The IRONNYYYYYYYYY

StompArtist
09-29-2011, 08:06 PM
Stomp -- I think your on to something. Maybe if we get the PL government to raise the debt ceiling we can all borrow gold against it's future value.

Or we could borrow from SL!

Bunnyshoota
09-29-2011, 08:10 PM
supply and demand
less of an item = higher cost
more of an item = lower cost
Dont forget the need part. Less of item, more need =higher cost, less of item, less demand =medium cost, more of item, less demand=minimal cost, more of item more demand = medium cost.
Its funny how i can grasp these when i suck at merchanting...........................

csb
10-01-2011, 06:26 PM
Or we could borrow from SL!

The government just needs to find the right tax. Hmm, how about a tech tax... on all SMS messages, emails, and all money spent on computer gaming. Then, no government workers will lose their jobs.

Too bad we can't just kill critters and sell their magical items to get out of debt. Oh wait, that's how the buffalo got wiped out.

Sorry, that was random.

dudetus
10-02-2011, 03:07 AM
No whirlz I haven't been involved in that thread in any way..

Spekticle
10-02-2011, 10:10 AM
Stomp -- I think your on to something. Maybe if we get the PL government to raise the debt ceiling we can all borrow gold against it's future value.
Can I put this in my signature? lol

JTZ
10-09-2011, 06:04 AM
ugh ive been reading these comments and some people say there so poor but ur rich to some and poor to others so... dont feel bad i bet this wont help anyone but idc :)

cynic
10-09-2011, 06:53 AM
As we all know the prices of the endgame equipment has gone out of the control. Demonic set costs way over 10mil. That's just outrageous since there are very few people who actually have the money to buy for it.

My first endgame char was in ao3. The new void set was released for my bird. What did the most expensive set cost back then? Bird mb set was about 1m (compare to nowadays autobow set).

Then they released the sewers. The endgame prices had a huge leap.

And once again when nuri came out we had even greater leap.

I understand that the prices of the new endgame equipment goes higher every time. It's just normal to be greedy but what about when the cap is raised to for an example to 81? Laser shooting bow of awesomeness set costs 150m?

I know some people may take this lightly but this seriously is a big problem. A common player just don't have enough money to keep up with the ridicilious prices and even greater amount of ppl have to stay with bad endgame equipment. It's always more fun to play a game where ppl actually can buy equipment.

The fews who have the time to farm or are skilled merchers just go richer and richer and common players realize that they can't even afford a simple leather scrap.

Relax the way this is going you will be able to buy whatver you want with platinum, no worries u can be one of th self made oh selfbought personalitys in this game

Ghastly
10-11-2011, 05:50 PM
You guys nag more than Britney Spears after she dropped her baby....

牛丼が好き
10-11-2011, 09:25 PM
The prices are really high .

I'm like 53 and have like barely 250k . I don't mind spending plats on elixirs but spending 700plats for 250k gold is dumb . Hope prices go down some day before I'm 60 :(

Haowesie
10-11-2011, 10:31 PM
The prices are dropping! I don't know whether to be happy or sad LOL

protectorofnoobs
10-11-2011, 11:44 PM
well the whole point that the author of this post was trying to bring about was that everythings just getting too expensive for the average player to have the best sets and enjoy because the average player plays barely an hour a day
Pocket Legends was meant to be a "pick up and play" game that allowed you to do some quick runs while you had a few minutes, but now its a "pick up and stay" game where farming like an addict or merching constantly at least for a month is required to even get a glyph set.
The most important factor to enjoying this game is "time"
I personally dont want to waste half my life and get a virtual set in a game that makes me feel good for like a day
so:
SOLUTIONS:
1. Sts could increase the drop rate (i personally think its the lowest its ever been compared to other campaigns)
2. Create quests that would award sets similar to current endgame ones

dudetus
10-12-2011, 04:05 AM
TY Protector u rly put this thing up in a nutshell!

Too bad I can say thanks only once for one post...