View Full Version : Crate Key sales and Gold Nekro
I feel like a lot of players are using scripts to purchase crate keys. Whenever crate keys are on sale they get out of stock within a second which is fine if an item is in demand, but whenever I check auction for crate keys, I see some common IGNs selling multiple of them. It's believable that they have fast hands and could buy 1-2 every time but purchasing 5-6 within a period of 1 sec is humanly impossible. These script users have an unfair advantage over users who had to wait hours for the stock to refresh only to find they went out of stock again before I could even press the buy button. Without a doubt same will be the case with Gold Nekro and other in demand eggs/items in store.
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Donquixoth
12-24-2016, 01:06 AM
Fight fire with fire? Do the same thing as they did.
quileos
12-24-2016, 01:51 AM
Nothing bad in using smarter ways!
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I can totally do that and have it running but isn't using scripts bannable
will0
12-24-2016, 02:12 AM
Over demand < less supply
I can totally do that and have it running but isn't using scripts bannable
I wouldn't risk it until dev clarification. Try find anything in the game ToS.
I wouldn't risk it until dev clarification. Try find anything in the game ToS.
Using bots to farm is bannable that I know
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Using bots to farm is bannable that I know
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Indeed, I have a feeling that this would be too and I kind of hope it is... just removes the fairness for the average player to buy these keys/eggs
Indeed, I have a feeling that this would be too and I kind of hope it is... just removes the fairness for the average player to buy these keys/eggs
Ikr
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Tsk. This is so disappointing :/ I was so excited to buy some Keys from the Winter Sales but as From what I've experienced the past 15mins, wherein after 1sec stroke. It was already SOLD OUT. Yet I was spamming the button with my 2 Hands, it still didn't work. How disappointing. I wish STS would change this somehow, but I guess it's too late since they're on Holidays.
msustro
12-24-2016, 03:21 AM
Ditto to this... last 4 cycles the crate keys have sold out within 1 second. I hope STS has a way to see who is cheating.
Probationer
12-24-2016, 03:22 AM
Secret, I spam my iPad like mad hehe.... I got 4 keys first time they were out.... 4 attempts...(0,0,2,2) it's all luck.
So far today, I have had 2 attempts (1,1)
But for golden Nekro, there is less demand as it'll probably be 1000-1500 plat whereas keys are 30.
So you probably have more chance with golden Nekro then keys lol...
Secret, I spam my iPad like mad hehe.... I got 4 keys first time they were out.... 4 attempts...(0,0,2,2) it's all luck.
So far today, I have had 2 attempts (1,1)
But for golden Nekro, there is less demand as it'll probably be 1000-1500 plat whereas keys are 30.
So you probably have more chance with golden Nekro then keys lol...
4 eggs every two hours.. I fail to see any chance there
Terminhater
12-24-2016, 04:52 AM
Yep, these snipe bots are very annoying. Hope STS deals with them.
You'll know who these snipe bots are anyway. When you see their names spammed on cs selling the stuff they sniped using third party software.
Arlorz
12-24-2016, 05:16 AM
Yea, that's the reason i didn't buy plat.
Because i knew botters will have their advantage.
Blazerland
12-24-2016, 07:18 AM
I totally agree with this post. I loaded up plats and watch the counter tick in store to buy crate keys but in 1 second its sold out. Meowwwwwwww
Shackler
12-24-2016, 09:13 AM
This is a mess. I have been waiting for this day to buy some of those crates. I bought 1700 plats just for this and i cant even spend them. Sts please take care of this issue AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. Or honestly ill ask google play for a refund. And you know.. They do refunds. Unlike you.
Trick
12-24-2016, 09:41 AM
I agree, we have no chance at all to get our hands on crate keys. Please fix this.
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Greoatef
12-24-2016, 10:36 AM
yeah i agree ... if purchasing keys and gold nekro can and is being scripted then its very annoying. if those crate keys are available every 2 hours youd think you would have a chance, but today i sat and watched the store count down to 0 seconds, and the keys were instantly sold out ... they were not even available for 1 second.
I was going to buy plat specifically for a chance at gold nekro but im hesitant now .... and probably wont bother buying plat.
Lawpvp
12-24-2016, 10:47 AM
Or maybe its because a lot of players, just like all of you, are all spamming to buy them at the same time so they sell out in 1 second, which is to be expected given the ratio of people in arlor to the number of crate keys being sold.
At the beginning of this past semester my university was opening spots for an honors level class for a given math course. All the spots filled in 2 minutes. Am i going to cry about it? No because demand >>>>>>>>>>> supply so ofc it will sell out quickly.
Last summer I was bought a pair of jordan 5's. I waited until about 10:00 at night the day they released to order them and guess what? The first 3 websites i went to were all sold out. Luckily I was still able to find them.
Just because you don't get any doesnt mean the other players are cheating because you have 0 proof or evidence. This thread is a real testament to human nature.
"If i dont get something but somebody else does it's not fair, they must be cheating"
U can spend ur plat on something else. Lets grow up a little hmm?
Just witnessed this and wow they were gone instantly! Took screenshots but lazy to post them at the moment.
@Lawpvp it would never hurt for StS to check if anything fishy was happening to once and for all 'unlock this case' (pun intended)
msustro
12-24-2016, 11:09 AM
Lawpvp:
Of course we don't have evidence. Do you think I'd be able to record someone's store transaction?? STS would have the only way to confirm one way or another. If STS checks and says there has been no cheating then I'd be perfectly fine with that response.
I err on the side of caution until proven otherwise since we know sniping bots are possible.
yubaraj
12-24-2016, 11:10 AM
Too many unhappy customers bad for business lol. I might use my plats to open crate if they don't get sold in a second I guess.
Have fun merry Christmas .
Lawpvp
12-24-2016, 11:22 AM
Just witnessed this and wow they were gone instantly! Took screenshots but lazy to post them at the moment.
@Lawpvp it would never hurt for StS to check if anything fishy was happening to once and for all 'unlock this case' (pun intended)
Lawpvp:
Of course we don't have evidence. Do you think I'd be able to record someone's store transaction?? STS would have the only way to confirm one way or another. If STS checks and says there has been no cheating then I'd be perfectly fine with that response.
I err on the side of caution until proven otherwise since we know sniping bots are possible.
I agree it wouldnt hurt for sts to check. But they are on break so nothing is likely to happen until after New Year's day. That being said, rather than coming to forums with possible accusations, I think it would be prudent to create a support case expressing your concerns along with the igns of the players who have proven to be successful in acquiring a suspiciously large number of the crate keys given the limited supply
Or maybe its because a lot of players, just like all of you, are all spamming to buy them at the same time so they sell out in 1 second, which is to be expected given the ratio of people in arlor to the number of crate keys being sold.
At the beginning of this past semester my university was opening spots for an honors level class for a given math course. All the spots filled in 2 minutes. Am i going to cry about it? No because demand >>>>>>>>>>> supply so ofc it will sell out quickly.
"If i dont get something but somebody else does it's not fair, they must be cheating"
U can spend ur plat on something else. Lets grow up a little hmm?
Did u read my thread properly? I said it's fine as long as it's 1-2 per user that's because they are spamming but some users are listing multiples of them during the first sale? Is it humanly possible? If u can show me a video of you (or anyone else) spamming "Buy" and purchasing more than 5, I'd be happy to ask this thread to be closed but I am pretty sure you can't.
Last summer I was bought a pair of jordan 5's. I waited until about 10:00 at night the day they released to order them and guess what? The first 3 websites i went to were all sold out. Luckily I was still able to find them.
How can I or anyone else relate your incident to Crate Keys? Are you openly suggesting me to buy crate keys from a third party site?
Just because you don't get any doesnt mean the other players are cheating because you have 0 proof or evidence. This thread is a real testament to human nature.
Innocent until proven guilty? Guess what, it goes both ways, Guilty until proven innocent. If whining is human nature then so is selfishness and competitiveness, and we all know how players used bots to farm, so you can't really say that I am entirely wrong about this one.
U can spend ur plat on something else.
Of course I can spend all of my plat for something else, but why not purchase the one thing for which I purchased plats.
Lets grow up a little hmm?
I am already a grown up. How else do you think I got a credit card to purchase plats? Honestly at this point in my life, I'd rather want to be a kid again.
Greoatef
12-24-2016, 12:44 PM
Or maybe its because a lot of players, just like all of you, are all spamming to buy them at the same time so they sell out in 1 second, which is to be expected given the ratio of people in arlor to the number of crate keys being sold.
At the beginning of this past semester my university was opening spots for an honors level class for a given math course. All the spots filled in 2 minutes. Am i going to cry about it? No because demand >>>>>>>>>>> supply so ofc it will sell out quickly.
Last summer I was bought a pair of jordan 5's. I waited until about 10:00 at night the day they released to order them and guess what? The first 3 websites i went to were all sold out. Luckily I was still able to find them.
Just because you don't get any doesnt mean the other players are cheating because you have 0 proof or evidence. This thread is a real testament to human nature.
"If i dont get something but somebody else does it's not fair, they must be cheating"
U can spend ur plat on something else. Lets grow up a little hmm?
hmmm ... i wasnt crying, i was raising the question if it was scriptable. And raising the point as "general discussion" as per the forum section ... so we could discuss, maybe inspect, and quantify as adults with respect and common courtesy .... you are just being rude and offensive to others and assumptive.
Human nature is very individual to each and everyone ... and varies hugely across different cultures, religions and peoples independent perspectives about life.
im perfectly well grown up already thankyou very much :p
Shackler
12-24-2016, 12:59 PM
Man.. Do you know what. Now STS watching us. Reading all the words we say here. But they dont care because even those bot users paying for plats and they are already earning money from those plat purchases. In game economy is not so important for them. They wont take care of this issue. But if i start talking inappropriate, or start a fight here, they will immediately close the thread and send a warning message. So man actually the thing we are doing here is "crying". I already sent a ticket to Google play for a refund. I recommend you the same.
Runel Joseph Ruiz
12-24-2016, 01:23 PM
Im suggesting for like 5-10sec cooldown for every purchase of plat items from store. It will prevent macro/script users to gain advantage for using it for hoarding purpose especially on gold nekro for sure. Just my 2 cents. Ps. Not a plat buyer. K thnx bye
"I used to be an adventurer like you. Then i took an Arrow in the knee."
Lawpvp
12-24-2016, 01:30 PM
Did u read my thread properly? I said it's fine as long as it's 1-2 per user that's because they are spamming but some users are listing multiples of them during the first sale? Is it humanly possible? If u can show me a video of you (or anyone else) spamming "Buy" and purchasing more than 5, I'd be happy to ask this thread to be closed but I am pretty sure you can't.
show a video of someone using a scriptto buy them and I'll agree with you, but I am pretty sure you can't.
How can I or anyone else relate your incident to Crate Keys? Are you openly suggesting me to buy crate keys from a third party site?
I said nothing about using a third party site to buy keys. If you can't understand the plain and simple point of my comparison on your own, then there is nothing I can do to help you understand.
Innocent until proven guilty? Guess what, it goes both ways, Guilty until proven innocent. If whining is human nature then so is selfishness and competitiveness, and we all know how players used bots to farm, so you can't really say that I am entirely wrong about this one.
actually it doesnt go both ways. I hope you find yourself in court someday so you can learn how the justice system works. I never said you were entirely wrong. But I suggest reaching out to support with concerns rather than starting a thread to accuse players of cheating solely based off of speculation.
Of course I can spend all of my plat for something else, but why not purchase the one thing for which I purchased plats.
you can purchase the one thing you purchased plats for just like anyone else in arlor, but since you have been unsuccessful to do so I would suggest looking for alternate means to get value out of your platinum
I am already a grown up. How else do you think I got a credit card to purchase plats? Honestly at this point in my life, I'd rather want to be a kid again.
It doesnt take a "grown up" to have a credit card. I've had one since I was 13. And u dont even need a credit card to buy platinum you can use itunes cards which can be bought with cash. Plus I would think that a "grown up"would know how the justice system works. And a "grown up" wouldn't immediately think players are cheating when they don't get there way.
"Guilty until proven innocent" lmao still laughing about that one
Lawpvp
12-24-2016, 01:36 PM
hmmm ... i wasnt crying, i was raising the question if it was scriptable. And raising the point as "general discussion" as per the forum section ... so we could discuss, maybe inspect, and quantify as adults with respect and common courtesy .... you are just being rude and offensive to others and assumptive.
Human nature is very individual to each and everyone ... and varies hugely across different cultures, religions and peoples independent perspectives about life.
im perfectly well grown up already thankyou very much :p
I never said anyone was crying, sorry that you made that assumption about yourself. You can raise the question but what is the point of doing it on the forums when we have no means to "inspect or quantify". The only people who can do that are the sts employees, so I would suggest messaging support.
I find it very hypocritical that you accuse me of being assumptive when the entire premise of this thread is based on the assumption that other players are cheating with 0 evidence. GG buddy, ur lucky I'm not saying everything I would like to say to you or Back, then you would really think im being rude and offensive.
Greoatef
12-24-2016, 02:14 PM
Im suggesting for like 5-10sec cooldown for every purchase of plat items from store. It will prevent macro/script users to gain advantage for using it for hoarding purpose especially on gold nekro for sure. Just my 2 cents. Ps. Not a plat buyer. K thnx bye
"I used to be an adventurer like you. Then i took an Arrow in the knee."
now THAT'S a really really great idea with constructive thought and discussion .. thankyou
It doesnt take a "grown up" to have a credit card. I've had one since I was 13. And u dont even need a credit card to buy platinum you can use itunes cards which can be bought with cash. Plus I would think that a "grown up"would know how the justice system works. And a "grown up" wouldn't immediately think players are cheating when they don't get there way.
"Guilty until proven innocent" lmao still laughing about that one
Maybe in your place kids can have credit cards or maybe you are not old enough to differentiate between credit card and debit card. I'm not sure what made you think I am an iPhone user tho. I think I know pretty well, how the justice system works and no, I won't find myself in court anytime soon. I made my assumptions based on facts, I didn't call out names or did anything of that sort and just started a thread to further discuss the topic and hopefully Devs can shed some light on it. I'm sorry if you found my thread/reply to be rude, but I never once pointed out to a particular user.
I never said anyone was crying, sorry that you made that assumption about yourself. You can raise the question but what is the point of doing it on the forums when we have no means to "inspect or quantify". The only people who can do that are the sts employees, so I would suggest messaging support.
I find it very hypocritical that you accuse me of being assumptive when the entire premise of this thread is based on the assumption that other players are cheating with 0 evidence. GG buddy, ur lucky I'm not saying everything I would like to say to you or Back, then you would really think im being rude and offensive.
Neither do u have any evidence that they are not, so it's an assumption as well.
Please go ahead and say whatever you want to say here, PM or in game.. IGN is siggy I'd like to know more.
Kiritobozz
12-24-2016, 02:25 PM
Im suggesting for like 5-10sec cooldown for every purchase of plat items from store. It will prevent macro/script users to gain advantage for using it for hoarding purpose especially on gold nekro for sure. Just my 2 cents. Ps. Not a plat buyer. K thnx bye
"I used to be an adventurer like you. Then i took an Arrow in the knee."
Lol, if only STS read this post before taking a vacation...
Im suggesting for like 5-10sec cooldown for every purchase of plat items from store. It will prevent macro/script users to gain advantage for using it for hoarding purpose especially on gold nekro for sure. Just my 2 cents. Ps. Not a plat buyer. K thnx bye
"I used to be an adventurer like you. Then i took an Arrow in the knee."
Won't help, we have a 2 hrs cooldown already, maybe random stock timing could help. That way if anyone is using scripts they would have to run it the entire time and make it easier for the devs to identify them.
That's not what he meant. He meant a cooldown between every purchase. For example: If you want to buy another crate key kit, you have to wait five to 10 seconds.
oww I see. So, if u bought 1 kit, u have to wait for 10 secs to buy another but in the meantime others can buy and once they do, they'll go into cooldown as well?
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Kiritobozz
12-24-2016, 02:51 PM
Won't help, we have a 2 hrs cooldown already, maybe random stock timing could help. That way if anyone is using scripts they would have to run it the entire time and make it easier for the devs to identify them.
That's not what he meant. He meant a cooldown between every purchase. For example: If you want to buy another crate key kit, you have to wait five to ten seconds.
Kiritobozz
12-24-2016, 02:53 PM
oww I see. So, if u bought 1 kit, u have to wait for 10 secs to buy another but in the meantime others can buy and once they do, they'll go into cooldown as well?
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Yep :) 11char
jonasDgreat
12-24-2016, 03:03 PM
Fight fire with fire? Do the same thing as they did.
So apparently the only way to buy crate keys is to cheat?
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Fyrce
12-24-2016, 03:36 PM
If its less than a second, it is multiple accounts. Whether one player or multiple players, who knows. But it is not be difficult to imagine a thousand accounts waiting on 10 keys...
Potato is me
12-24-2016, 05:31 PM
If its less than a second, it is multiple accounts. Whether one player or multiple players, who knows. But it is not be difficult to imagine a thousand accounts waiting on 10 keys...
Indeed... I think a better way would be random chance to access a store for each player after defeating the event boss during that period ad an announcement made that all 10 golden nekros/ keys have been sold out if necessary. This would solve the problem of snipers and also encourage more runs
JesuisCharlie
12-24-2016, 06:24 PM
Merry Christmas:)))
Golem
12-24-2016, 06:30 PM
I feel like a lot of players are using scripts to purchase crate keys. Whenever crate keys are on sale they get out of stock within a second which is fine if an item is in demand, but whenever I check auction for crate keys, I see some common IGNs selling multiple of them. It's believable that they have fast hands and could buy 1-2 every time but purchasing 5-6 within a period of 1 sec is humanly impossible. These script users have an unfair advantage over users who had to wait hours for the stock to refresh only to find they went out of stock again before I could even press the buy button. Without a doubt same will be the case with Gold Nekro and other in demand eggs/items in store.
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Soo true. It made me buy wrong item zzzz cus someone bought them in 1 second or less... PLS STS BANNEM THEM ALL. They are botters. Ty. Dont ban just that acc.. can u bann all accounts used on that ip? Ty
Greoatef
12-24-2016, 06:50 PM
yeah ... id say cool down 60 second period between players purchases .... spread the wealth and make the amazing sts offers available to all rather than individual players purchasing multiple offers instantly. Go check cs in game who sells ankhs ... some players sell multiple 25 ankh kits ....how is that possible?
And im not crying, more annoyed at some "players" (pfffffft thats not playing) taking advantage.
Anyhows im no taker ... once gifted a player friend a complete antignome set ... gifted hisha eggs ... abadon eggs ... 50 bronze chests for balanced tokens to a player so they can rank up to open mausoleum ..... and many more.
Share the wealth ... and the opportunities .... fairly
Wealth is not in the amount of gold you have or how op you are, its in the friends you have in game and your guildies.
Hell im only after gold nekro in order to gift a specific game colleague who is particularly obsessed with pets ... in case they dont manage to get one ...
And that ... that is what i define for me personslly as the basis of human nature ... not to take for self materialistic gain but to give to friends and colleagues in order to create harmony and family and to complete the circle
Greoatef
12-24-2016, 07:26 PM
And if you think for one second the creators and designers at sts, of this amazing game, dont care about us players then you are so unbelievable wrong i dont even know where to start debating this with you. Successful business starts with a passion for doing what you enjoy ... what you love and believe in ... when you get it right it naturally grows. The heart is a passion for the game and its followers ... and thats each and every single one of us both large and small
Awesome job sts and thankyou for AL
will0
12-24-2016, 08:57 PM
agree about cool down timer per player purchase or IP limit purchase per address. counting down few second on store to buy golden nekro once open 1 sec all gone this is not right !!!
kryttos82
12-24-2016, 10:47 PM
You can still hit buy button behind sold out banner, it's a tiny space above banner, but it's doable
Photogoflight
12-24-2016, 11:50 PM
Hey folks,
If you suspect people of running scripts or botting, please report it!
Thanks so much!
Roninmoro
12-25-2016, 07:33 PM
We do want you all to keep enjoying the game and playing and love your feedback, but please remember to put suggestions in the correct area. The devs will be back after the holiday and will check the feedback and suggestions forum like always- We're locking this thread to prevent drama, but please post your ideas over there where they will be noticed faster and ALWAYS report specific players you have proof of botting. I'll pass this up too!