How to be good in pvp without Nekro or Mari :)

[Skilledpvp]

u heard it . I'm gonna share my nab knowledge on how to kill or give a good fight to Nekro or Mari players and farm normal players if ur poor af.

requirements
Some experience
Almost The best gear in pvp (para or eye not needed)
Some luck :)


this is from a rogue's perspective btw. Not guaranteed to work but I've been able to kill some Nero and Mari rogues as well as survive in clashes with these players.

This is twink advice not the endgame stuff. If u follow these in endgame ull get ur a$$ farmed

Pets needed
Blinky main pet for its debuffs
Stats mm if u can buy or arc deary
Aa will be discussed further on

Now tactics against rogues
In twink brackets the deadliest toon for vs are rogues.
And if they have Nekro para stuff they are like one hit warriors.
When vsing them or in a normal room, if u see these rogues coming with the Nekro buff on. Do NOT RUSH WITH UR CHARGED ATTACK.ULL DIE FOR SURE
Hide behind a rock after throwing ur pack waste some time for their Nekro shield to lose its power. All the while charge ur aim two times. now use RIBBIT AA and do ur first combo. Get heal if not dead do the next one. By now if they're rushing for their heal or their Nekro shield is down u have a chance to win.
Then spam attacks. If u have some luck ull win.
Same applies to Mari rogues.

Tactics against mages
These buggers are more trickier. When a Mage with Nekro comes in. He'll most prob charge his shield first at the same time u throw ur packs down. Don't even think of using ur nox when he has his shield up. Only do combos. After about two combos he'll be quite weak due to the armour debuffs. Charge ribbit and do a combo this will crit the highest. Usually I do about 1400dmg on this.use it further even after he puts his Nekro on.
If said Mage has curse. Use NILBOG AA. Slot it in ur aa. Use same tactics above. NILBOG AA NEEDS TO BE USED FOR SWIFT MAGES TOO!!



agaisnt warriors
If u don't play ur cards right ull mostly lose as a rogue
NEVER WASTE YOUR MANA BEFROE A TANKS HEAL OR DURING JUGG OR DURING NEKRO.
that said, during it use ur auto attack op and max 2 combos and heal.
After the heal hit him with all e combos u got . Put ur ribbit aa and crit him. If u can do about 1200dmg on him ULL prob win it.
Now let's say said warrior has a swift , revert to NILBOG AA. His Galen and swift freezes will kill you in seconds

I've shared whatever info I have collected till now. Everyone is free to criticise or thank me for the post ;).
These are for the not so rich players . All the rich af players can lead their normal lives and don't mind this guide by a nab . See y'all In Pvp.


Biabecida
Mastermind ph

[Skilledpvp]

Can a dev reroute this to the pvp section or tell me how to. I'm an idiot and posted this in general discussion .
Ty

[intizamfamily888]

Actually better buy a nekro instead of getting an mm or arc deary and open it up. Nekro is good for overall stats giving a good amount of mana.
Vs tanks. Try to make the enemies horn fail(charge ur bow). If u can fail his horn, hes dead unless he didnt jugged yet(if he uses jugg). So be careful and learn the enemies skill rotation and predict when he is about to heal and stun him at the right point! [emoji16])

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[Skilledpvp]

Actually better buy a nekro instead of getting an mm or arc deary and open it up. Nekro is good for overall stats giving a good amount of mana.
Vs tanks. Try to make the enemies horn fail(charge ur bow). If u can fail his horn, hes dead unless he didnt jugged yet(if he uses jugg). So be careful and learn the enemies skill rotation and predict when he is about to heal and stun him at the right point! [emoji16])
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Making the horn fail only happens if you're damn lucky otherwise his shield may fail but he'll still heal.
Regarding Nekro, without armour for rogues ur dead meat in pvp these days. Nekro stats gives no armour. Ofc it has its aa. I was talking about people who can't get a Nekro. Even mm is out should not have written that . Idk about higher lvls but no rogues come with just plain Nekro these days, I've killed so many rogues with just plain old Nekro using build above. That said these are just my tricks everyone needs to have their own actually.
Try it out and lemme know.

[Instanthumor]

Shadowlurk best AA

[shadowronn]

what are the ideal stats without para for rogues?

[intizamfamily888]

Making the horn fail only happens if you're damn lucky otherwise his shield may fail but he'll still heal.
Regarding Nekro, without armour for rogues ur dead meat in pvp these days. Nekro stats gives no armour. Ofc it has its aa. I was talking about people who can't get a Nekro. Even mm is out should not have written that . Idk about higher lvls but no rogues come with just plain Nekro these days, I've killed so many rogues with just plain old Nekro using build above. That said these are just my tricks everyone needs to have their own actually.
Try it out and lemme know.
Actually if u stun a tank while his healing his heal will fail( I can confirm that as i played 2.5 years as teink tank)

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[resurrected]

Actually if u stun a tank while his healing his heal will fail( I can confirm that as i played 2.5 years as teink tank)

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I can confirm that too!

[nevercan]

really nice info! however when you vs a tank it seems better (for me atleast) to use only aimed shot when he has no heal/nekro shield etc and when you're aimed crits high ( depending on youre lvl how much that is) use all combos befor he can heal.

that's how I did it :)

[Amicusdei]

Can a dev reroute this to the pvp section or tell me how to. I'm an idiot and posted this in general discussion .
Ty

you can copy and paste, then delete the original.
idk how it might work now with all the responses.
maybe just wait for some mod or dev to move it.
arent i helpful?

[Skilledpvp]

I'm not gonna copy and paste it cus that's annpying for everyone. Let a dev move it.
Helpful to tthe next time I make such a mistake :loyal:

[Skilledpvp]

Really? But when he gonna heal is quite unpredictable. I love vsing after pt inv cus sometimes I crot like 1.1k and he come to 10 percent so Ik to spam and kill him.
Lemme try the heal stun thing , cus as a former tank when rogues failed my heal my shield would go but my heal would continue idk abt that , :confused:
Ty for the update

[Skilledpvp]

what are the ideal stats without para for rogues?
From what I've seen when players get their hand on some gold especially if they poor, they immediately buy a para weap ignoring other imp stats like health , mana and armour. Then they are left wit no gold for good set ring or pet balances.
For level 14 I've seen rogues running around with 160 dmg max without para but their armours usually go til 479 and health about 1600 which makes them paper in a clash scenario.

[Skilledpvp]

Personal note
Advice not coming from an op rogue :excitement:
Stats at level 14 average out to
Health 1860
Dmg 148
Armour 727
Mana 800
Crit abt 13 per cent

As u can see I'm more of the defensive rogue so the skills are set out in the same way
Cheers
:smiley_simmons:

[Skilledpvp]

Personal note
Advice not coming from an op rogue :playful:
Stats at level 14 average out to
Health 1860
Dmg 148
Armour 727
Mana 800
Crit abt 13 per cent

As u can see I'm more of the defensive rogue so the skills are set out in the same way
Cheers
:smiley_simmons:

[LugiaBeatU]

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[JSTKill]

Very useful for me )

[LuckyDeadX]

Very simple... use procs, and slot of people are using glow stick or heroic breeze with like glow stick AA, you wanna make sure you use either jug,split,axe,veng,heal, or cry


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[Izfura08]

thank you for the info