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Skillz
02-22-2017, 03:12 PM
Players are complain already because they can't find any games. I think what you did Cinco was a really good job don't change it to 5 again let the kids cry.. they just want to farm the low level Players again like they always do[emoji6]

JTZ
02-22-2017, 05:02 PM
I'm not complaining about the change in the range of levels one can join. I think that's fine. I think they should have balanced each level before doing so.
My first game on I played my 22 Dex bear because there weren't any 27 games open for my other characters to join. I was all fine and dandy until I fought a fox and got my rear end handed to me because of the insane amount of dodge they have. I understand dodge is very prominent at higher levels but that was the reason I stayed with twinking. It just felt less random.
But fighting that fox was just a coin toss to see if he would dodge my combo or not since the time to kill has decreased a lot since 3pc rings have been introduced to low levels. It's also made older low level bear builds with 6 hs feel useless because it doesn't even proc before you die so now you either use 6 beckon and stomp to try and nuke people faster than they can nuke you or use 6 taunt and pray that RNG is on your side for a second or two.
I hope STS decreases dodge or do something to make PvP feel more rewarding by making skill more important in fights. I know I'm not the only one who has this opinion and if anyone disagrees with me then we can talk about it in a formal matter.

Groaning
02-22-2017, 05:54 PM
I'm not complaining about the change in the range of levels one can join. I think that's fine. I think they should have balanced each level before doing so.
My first game on I played my 22 Dex bear because there weren't any 27 games open for my other characters to join. I was all fine and dandy until I fought a fox and got my rear end handed to me because of the insane amount of dodge they have. I understand dodge is very prominent at higher levels but that was the reason I stayed with twinking. It just felt less random.
But fighting that fox was just a coin toss to see if he would dodge my combo or not since the time to kill has decreased a lot since 3pc rings have been introduced to low levels. It's also made older low level bear builds with 6 hs feel useless because it doesn't even proc before you die so now you either use 6 beckon and stomp to try and nuke people faster than they can nuke you or use 6 taunt and pray that RNG is on your side for a second or two.
I hope STS decreases dodge or do something to make PvP feel more rewarding by making skill more important in fights. I know I'm not the only one who has this opinion and if anyone disagrees with me then we can talk about it in a formal matter.

if they made 2 pc rings l61+ and 3pc rings l66+, would that help the issue of two/three hitting at low levels?

JTZ
02-22-2017, 06:59 PM
if they made 2 pc rings l61+ and 3pc rings l66+, would that help the issue of two/three hitting at low levels?

I'm sure it would solve that. It could also create more problems since the hit% from the rings help a lot. Without that hit% it would make things even more inconsistent.

Bats
02-22-2017, 08:20 PM
Sum it up: This post can clear your brain for you: http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?388865-Level-requirements

Mister Smith
02-23-2017, 11:00 AM
Players are complain already because they can't find any games. I think what you did Cinco was a really good job don't change it to 5 again let the kids cry.. they just want to farm the low level Players again like they always do[emoji6]

And maybe if they were farming you, you could have taken the time to lvl a 40 and fight back and none of this would be a problem but ppl are to lazy to lvl a new char up

Skillz
02-23-2017, 11:10 AM
And maybe if they were farming you, you could have taken the time to lvl a 40 and fight back and none of this would be a problem but ppl are to lazy to lvl a new char up
Not everybody is lazy to level up

JTZ
02-23-2017, 03:15 PM
And maybe if they were farming you, you could have taken the time to lvl a 40 and fight back and none of this would be a problem but ppl are to lazy to lvl a new char up

That was honestly the only incentive for me to make a majority of my characters. I haven't played 30 in months and this update hasn't made me want to play it any more.

Skillz
02-23-2017, 03:16 PM
That was honestly the only incentive for me to make a majority of my characters. I haven't played 30 in months and this update hasn't made me want to play it any more.
Hopefully you don't even come back playing Pvp.

JTZ
02-23-2017, 03:26 PM
Hopefully you don't even come back playing Pvp.

Hopefully I don't come back to pvping because I used a solution to the 5 level range in PvP? When I find a level I like I play it. If there are higher level people and they want to rush/team/farm me then so be it. I'll make a higher level to counter them and play the game or I'll just join a lower level lobby so they can't join.
Oh well, what if they just merge down? Well I'll rehost another room so they can't join or wait till somebody merges the game again and so they can kick the higher level and they can't rejoin.
Sorry that me not wanting to play level 30 because it's going to be even more inactive then before grants you the idea that I shouldn't be playing this game. I don't think less players in the PL population will do anything but be an opposition to your side of the argument as to wether or not we should keep the level range difference at 2.

Skillz
02-23-2017, 04:11 PM
Hopefully I don't come back to pvping because I used a solution to the 5 level range in PvP? When I find a level I like I play it. If there are higher level people and they want to rush/team/farm me then so be it. I'll make a higher level to counter them and play the game or I'll just join a lower level lobby so they can't join.
Oh well, what if they just merge down? Well I'll rehost another room so they can't join or wait till somebody merges the game again and so they can kick the higher level and they can't rejoin.
Sorry that me not wanting to play level 30 because it's going to be even more inactive then before grants you the idea that I shouldn't be playing this game. I don't think less players in the PL population will do anything but be an opposition to your side of the argument as to wether or not we should keep the level range difference at 2.
Just don't come back.

Cinco
02-23-2017, 04:35 PM
Always such stern pronouncements on PvP. We'll pool opinions on Monday :-)