View Full Version : Bring Back 5 Level PvP Difference
Kurvy
03-08-2017, 08:47 AM
A lot of levels have died since the 2 level update Difference. Some people may like the update thinking it eliminates rushers, but it doesn't. 5 level Difference would bring life back to PvP.
Skillz
03-08-2017, 08:56 AM
A lot of levels have died since the 2 level update Difference. Some people may like the update thinking it eliminates rushers, but it doesn't. 5 level Difference would bring life back to PvP.
Yes, please change it back to 5 Cinco[emoji1]
Ignitedmage
03-08-2017, 09:06 AM
A lot of levels have died since the 2 level update Difference. Some people may like the update thinking it eliminates rushers, but it doesn't. 5 level Difference would bring life back to PvP.
Well atleast now you won't see l71s getting easy kills on l66s.
DanielRH
03-08-2017, 02:49 PM
I fully support a change back to +-5. I can't speak for the higher levels, but PVP in the lower ones has taken a turn for the worse since the change. PL just doesn't have the player base to really support +-2 IMO.
Groaning
03-08-2017, 03:17 PM
Well atleast now you won't see l71s getting easy kills on l66s.
Most l66 have a l71 :)
Vigilante
03-08-2017, 05:25 PM
Dayum. Just to throw out my opinion, I'm loving the 2 lvl difference.
Amazing, did some people's eyes just open up after 3 weeks? Or are some people still loving restrictions to the most important part in PL being changed?
I vote for a change back to -/+5
Not enough players to keep every popular level alive.
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Blyzzor
03-08-2017, 07:24 PM
+1 change back to +/- 5
Duckypowerz
03-08-2017, 08:23 PM
Well atleast now you won't see l71s getting easy kills on l66s.
I mean I enjoy useing 66 to kill 71s but I can't find any games now because of +/-2 which has killed 66-71 pvp activity. And yes most people who play 66 have 71s I have 2 66s and 71s.
Burningdex
03-08-2017, 11:36 PM
What dan and occult said ^
Bazinga!
03-09-2017, 12:40 AM
Let's remove all restrictions and make a huge PvP arena! Runescape style :p
TheRealNun
03-09-2017, 12:31 PM
Yes I definitely support bringing back -/+ 5.
Ever since -/+ 2 happened, i dont see many ppl twinking from 22-66
humiiii
03-09-2017, 03:41 PM
Look at these people. Cinco has been talking about doing this for like 1 month, and none of you said anything. Now that he has done the lvl restriction, you wake up? Nah, doesn't work like that at all. Respect his work and dont wake up after the update.
Kurvy
03-09-2017, 03:43 PM
Look at these people. Cinco has been talking about doing this for like 1 month, and none of you said anything. Now that he has done the lvl restriction, you wake up? Nah, doesn't work like that at all. Respect his work and dont wake up after the update.
Sean's always got something negative to say. I don't know if you remember when cinco nerfed dodge??? Remember that thread where you were extremely rude to cinco?
I haven't played near as much lately because the level range being changed. PvP was apparently unfair before the update but now it's just become more clear how each individual level is unbalanced. It's stale now and much harder to find games.
sebbyc
03-09-2017, 07:27 PM
How about the 5 level difference is added back up to, say, level 60. Then beyond that, the 2 level difference can stay, where pvp is more active i think, esp. since theres a lot of 85 and 2 level diff. doesnt affect that.
Lets just let 85's pvp with level 1's!
Dreadnip
03-10-2017, 07:58 AM
Most pvp levels died because of this update, I also vote for a change back to +-5
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When new gens dominate the vote for pvp changes, & ignore the more knowledgeable people in PL, & with the foolish "developers" go with their opinion then ruin the entire game - it's quite sad; and quite frightening when new gens are listened to more. Every year, one by one quit all together. 2010 left years ago, 2011 last year, 2012 this year, and 2013 - yep next year.
Skillz
03-10-2017, 09:35 AM
When new gens dominate the vote for pvp changes, & ignore the more knowledgeable people in PL, & with the foolish "developers" go with their opinion then ruin the entire game - it's quite sad; and quite frightening when new gens are listened to more. Every year, one by one quit all together. 2010 left years ago, 2011 last year, 2012 this year, and 2013 - yep next year.
Im from 2010 acc created November 11
DanielRH
03-10-2017, 09:50 AM
When new gens dominate the vote for pvp changes, & ignore the more knowledgeable people in PL, & with the foolish "developers" go with their opinion then ruin the entire game - it's quite sad; and quite frightening when new gens are listened to more. Every year, one by one quit all together. 2010 left years ago, 2011 last year, 2012 this year, and 2013 - yep next year.
While I agree that +-2 hasn't worked out all too well in the end, it's rather difficult to test the effectiveness of these sorts of changes without a live audience (thus I would hardly call the developers "foolish" in their endeavor to balance PVP). Furthermore PL belongs to the supposed "newgens" as much as the older folks, and it's important for everyone to have a say in the direction of the game.
The experiment was worth a try, and the question now is where to go from here. Can a further enhancement be made, or possibly a return to +-5?
People often run wild with "this update is terrible, everyone quit because of it" theories; rather, the game continues to adapt (possibly making mistakes along the way), but ultimately improves, with old members still around, and new friends joining us everyday.
/DanielRH - 2010
humiiii
03-10-2017, 11:25 AM
Sean's always got something negative to say. I don't know if you remember when cinco nerfed dodge??? Remember that thread where you were extremely rude to cinco?
Sorry what? Dont make up stories and dont say my name idk you, I never complained after Cinco nerfed dodge. This is actually what I wanted him to do.
Annd us twink players get punished because dumb endgamers keep complaining. These changes would be good if it was for endgame only. I regret voting yes. You nerfed my fav lvl (35) back in the time which RUINED all my enjoyment and now you are making it slower by reducing stats and pvp damage output. Please explain.
Me first? Just read all the changes, dont even have to explain lol. And i also said why im mad. Dont wanna be rude but did you even read?
Source : http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?384234-Dodgepocalypse/page4
As for the topic, It's not unjustified, it was unjustified that unjustified privilege was given, that has been taken off. Say good bye to it and look forward.
humiiii
03-10-2017, 01:03 PM
Source : http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?384234-Dodgepocalypse/page4
As for the topic, It's not unjustified, it was unjustified that unjustified privilege was given, that has been taken off. Say good bye to it and look forward.
Like I said, if you were smart (you just showed you're not) you would know we were talking about when Cinco brought dodge back to normal :) and I didn't complain about it. I never complained about things I asked Cinco to do, so stay on topic
Kurvy
03-10-2017, 03:47 PM
Humiiii you should just be more respectful..
Cinco
03-10-2017, 03:49 PM
And miss out on all the kooky comments? No thanks.
Im from 2010 acc created November 11
I was talking in general terms; not a couple outliers. I am too from 2010.
Also, myself who hasn't played since 1 month and almost a week now, I checked for once at level 35 pvp 10 times every hour; and i saw only 2 bears in the morning, with none others all the way up to now. Quite normal i see. It's starkly different than before, although since updates are done, I hardly think that it will improve with one person making all the decisions (who doesn't even play the game). And lastly, there is no way for people who quit to return; every update makes them slowly (which is me) (or immediately) move away (which I have played for over 6.5 years).
Like I said, if you were smart (you just showed you're not) you would know we were talking about when Cinco brought dodge back to normal :) and I didn't complain about it. I never complained about things I asked Cinco to do, so stay on topic
If you don't rage everywhere, you would find the purpose of quotes w/o any comment in it. Rage post ain't a sign of smartness BTW.
I have no intention to argue on rage posts, so don't except me to come back and read the rage posts here ;) thx.
Kurvy
03-10-2017, 10:16 PM
I was talking in general terms; not a couple outliers. I am too from 2010.
Also, myself who hasn't played since 1 month and almost a week now, I checked for once at level 35 pvp 10 times every hour; and i saw only 2 bears in the morning, with none others all the way up to now. Quite normal i see. It's starkly different than before, although since updates are done, I hardly think that it will improve with one person making all the decisions (who doesn't even play the game). And lastly, there is no way for people who quit to return; every update makes them slowly (which is me) (or immediately) move away (which I have played for over 6.5 years).
Good way to brag how oldgen you are lmao :p
humiiii
03-11-2017, 01:02 AM
If you don't rage everywhere, you would find the purpose of quotes w/o any comment in it. Rage post ain't a sign of smartness BTW.
I have no intention to argue on rage posts, so don't except me to come back and read the rage posts here ;) thx.
After reading my posts twice I don't see where I'm raging :/
Kurvy
03-11-2017, 08:33 AM
After reading my posts twice I don't see where I'm raging :/
Nah we just pick up this extreme saltiness vibe off of you all the time.
Good way to brag how oldgen you are lmao :p
Kurvy, some posts like this just aren't necessary. I don't consider any of those years "oldgen," and if you are complaining about it; I wonder why? Sadly, it is not your job as a moderator on the forums, therefore it is not necessary to make needless comments.
humiiii
03-11-2017, 11:34 AM
Nah we just pick up this extreme saltiness vibe off of you all the time.
Nice posts dude, constructive and good arguments. You just proved my point, all you're good at is ruining forums with your suggestions threads which are not even good :/
Vigilante
03-11-2017, 03:52 PM
Lol, what does old gen and new even have to do with this. Enough with that, seriously no one cares what you are.
Spullllll
03-11-2017, 09:52 PM
I totally support bringing back the 5 level difference. By doing the 2 level difference you have totally decreased the amount of games open for lower levels. If you really wanna cry about a higher level killing you, make that level and wreck them. Nough' said.
Kurvy
03-12-2017, 02:06 AM
Nice posts dude, constructive and good arguments. You just proved my point, all you're good at is ruining forums with your suggestions threads which are not even good :/
Humiii can you just stop lol. You can think what you want about my threads. Just don't post on them if you don't like them.
iceQueen69
03-12-2017, 03:29 AM
As a 2009 player I think that the +/- 2 level pvp changes were the best result of all the recent updates on PL. Make a game, and people will join!
Bazinga!
03-12-2017, 04:14 AM
As a 2018 player, I believe that PvP should be removed as a whole!
As a 2009 player I think that the +/- 2 level pvp changes were the best result of all the recent updates on PL. Make a game, and people will join!
Wow PL was released in 2009? Not that I know of unless it is beta. Although it said that it was in beta when it had bad graphics already up to the mid end in 2011 where the login page & character home page was different.
It has been released April 3rd, 2010 for iOS and for Android on 11 November 2010.
Congeniality
03-12-2017, 09:01 AM
Wow PL was released in 2009? Not that I know of unless it is beta. Although it said that it was in beta when it had bad graphics already up to the mid end in 2011 where the login page & character home page was different.
It has been released April 3rd, 2010 for iOS and for Android on 11 November 2010.
I think he was joking
Kurvy
03-12-2017, 10:21 AM
As a 2009 player I think that the +/- 2 level pvp changes were the best result of all the recent updates on PL. Make a game, and people will join!
But the thing is... people don't join, I've waited over 15 minutes one time.
iceQueen69
03-12-2017, 09:47 PM
But the thing is... people don't join, I've waited over 15 minutes one time.
Patience is a virtue. I've had to wait upwards of 2 hours but eventually someone always joins!
Suentous PO
03-12-2017, 10:33 PM
I see lately that there are more "2010" players than when i joined in like 2011!
Ruby!!!
03-13-2017, 04:17 AM
I see lately that there are more "2010" players than when i joined in like 2011!
Thought the same but really that's nothing compared to the ppl in game who told me they joined 2008 or during 51 cap...
iiBest
03-14-2017, 07:16 PM
To get back on topic:
Cinco, I like the idea behind the +/- 2 pvp change, and when I first heard of it, I supported the idea a 100%. However, on most pvp levels, we really need all the players we can get to maintain a fun environment. I haven't really followed the discussions on the matter, but it would be great if it could be possibly determined at hosting whether a game should be +/- 2 or 5, however if this is not a possibility, then 5 would be the better standard solution. Since the change, even though we are trying to keep things alive on the player side (at least some of us) lvl 51-56 pvp (my home) is barren. Thanks for all the work you put into working with PL btw!
TLDR: +1 to +/-5
Congeniality
03-14-2017, 07:24 PM
Thought the same but really that's nothing compared to the ppl in game who told me they joined 2008 or during 51 cap...
Ex Dee
@11
Kurvy
03-22-2017, 07:25 AM
Yes, please change it back to 5 Cinco[emoji1]
Im sure that it was it was mentioned but maybe keep it the same for endgame and 71, but change it back to 5level difference 66 and below
Congeniality
03-22-2017, 07:40 AM
Im sure that it was it was mentioned but maybe keep it the same for endgame and 71, but change it back to 5level difference 66 and below
I think the 5 level difference just encourages exploitation of the set differences between levels. Thus, I believe that 50+ should keep the level range of +/- 2 while all those levels below (because they don't have sets) should we switched back to the +/- 5 level differential. Yes, lower level PvP will be a bit harder, but it doesn't have the player base to sustain a +/- 2 level gap.
Buchmeister
03-22-2017, 08:43 AM
I disagree. Although some levels of pvp have died, it's much more balanced and I'm grateful for that. I'm sick of 25-27s teaming my 22
Kurvy
03-22-2017, 09:28 AM
I disagree. Although some levels of pvp have died, it's much more balanced and I'm
grateful for that. I'm sick of 25-27s teaming my 22
The low lvl pvp levels are random, unlike 51,61,66,71. there is alot of different levels.
Buchmeister
03-22-2017, 09:56 AM
The low lvl pvp levels are random, unlike 51,61,66,71. there is alot of different levels.
Yes but more opportunity to overtake your opponent with better sets from more recent caps. 51-71 join level should especially be kept to 2.
Kurvy
03-22-2017, 10:17 AM
Yes but more opportunity to overtake your opponent with better sets from more recent caps. 51-71 join level should especially be kept to 2.
But everything below it should be -+5
Buchmeister
03-23-2017, 06:54 AM
But everything below it should be -+5
Not necessarily. It's just that the higher levels have more reason to be kept at a 2 lvl range.
Kurvy
03-23-2017, 07:14 AM
Not necessarily. It's just that the higher levels have more reason to be kept at a 2 lvl range.
I now see most levels dead. Which i didnt see when it was +/-5, even if it means "set exploitation", its still better to have a full pvp game then none. No one said you have to stick around to get farmed by a higher level.
Congeniality
03-23-2017, 08:04 AM
Yes but more opportunity to overtake your opponent with better sets from more recent caps. 51-71 join level should especially be kept to 2.
But everything below it should be -+5
Read my post above ^^^^^^
XghostzX
03-23-2017, 09:05 AM
Ya'll need endgame :chuncky:
Ya'll need endgame :chuncky:
This.
Grab a pet, sets are cheap. Make endgame overpopulated. "Lots of fuewds, muhahahahaaha" - Family.
yannjoel
03-23-2017, 10:59 AM
I like the +/-2 for lvl 50+... But at the lower lvls it's kinda annoying :D
Buchmeister
03-23-2017, 11:49 AM
Read my post above ^^^^^^
I have yet to find a lack of 20-25 games. Tbh to me (especially 66) higher lvl has less players. Idk why people complain that they can't find games.
Kurvy
03-23-2017, 12:45 PM
I have yet to find a lack of 20-25 games. Tbh to me (especially 66) higher lvl has less players. Idk why people complain that they can't find games.
Because we cant find games...
This wouldnt be a thread if we could.
Kurvy
03-23-2017, 12:50 PM
Not necessarily. It's just that the higher levels have more reason to be kept at a 2 lvl range.
All pvp levels have suffered from this. Even if there is still games for 20-25, that level has stilled lost players. And ik 100 percent sure there was more games when it was 5. I think if it came down to it. You would choose the 5 level difference.
I disagree. Although some levels of pvp have died, it's much more balanced and I'm grateful for that. I'm sick of 25-27s teaming my 22
It hasn't balanced anything at all. The only difference now is that you don't have to join a level 17 game to get away from them. Level 25-27 is dead as is level 20 and level 30. I'd give more examples but I don't have experience in higher PvP arenas.
Mymysticalmage
03-23-2017, 03:11 PM
A lot of levels have died since the 2 level update Difference. Some people may like the update thinking it eliminates rushers, but it doesn't. 5 level Difference would bring life back to PvP.
It doesnt eliminate rushers. It eliminated boosters. Such as yourself.
Buchmeister
03-23-2017, 07:42 PM
It hasn't balanced anything at all. The only difference now is that you don't have to join a level 17 game to get away from them. Level 25-27 is dead as is level 20 and level 30. I'd give more examples but I don't have experience in higher PvP arenas.
Do you not have experience with low lvl either? I haven't noticed a change in how many games there are, especially lvl 20.
Buchmeister
03-23-2017, 07:48 PM
Because we cant find games...
This wouldnt be a thread if we could.
You must be on at the wrong time, because I don't have issues with that.
Communion
03-24-2017, 03:33 AM
It brought back l10 - 13...
Kurvy
03-24-2017, 09:36 AM
It brought back l10 - 13...
L10 pvp is pointless. L20 will always be active, try sitting in a 40,56 or 66 game. There is barely any.
Do you not have experience with low lvl either? I haven't noticed a change in how many games there are, especially lvl 20.
I only play low level.
Communion
03-25-2017, 07:07 AM
L10 - 12 fun in ffa with decent players.
Bazinga!
03-25-2017, 10:44 AM
I support the +/- 5 level PvP range.
I'm surprised that so many people disagree with this. At 56+ I can't find a single game to join ever. 71 was regarded the most active PvP level and somehow now I have to wait 20 minutes for one person to join and leave after a minute. I've been online at almost all timings. The result was the same every time.
Playing higher levels is a part of the PvP experience. There is nothing to complain about when you can always level up to their level or higher. The fact that you want to stay at a lower level is your choice.
Congeniality
03-25-2017, 11:10 AM
When new gens dominate the vote for pvp changes, & ignore the more knowledgeable people in PL, & with the foolish "developers" go with their opinion then ruin the entire game - it's quite sad; and quite frightening when new gens are listened to more. Every year, one by one quit all together. 2010 left years ago, 2011 last year, 2012 this year, and 2013 - yep next year.
I have been playing since 2011 and still enjoy the game :)
Kurvy
07-29-2017, 08:11 PM
Resurfacing this thread, we need the pvp restrictions again, we know u want ppl to cap and spend money but it also wrecked alot of peoples fun, it is still a game.
Vapourised
07-30-2017, 01:33 AM
Totally agree with this thread. The +\- 5 pvp restrictions should return.
imath
07-30-2017, 11:31 AM
I agree I really wish 5 level difference would come back...I enjoyed pvp at 66 and 71 and having that taken away and rushed by 100 is no fun.
yannjoel
08-10-2017, 04:04 AM
I just miss lowlvl pvp
DanielRH
08-17-2017, 06:51 PM
Serious +1.
rushionally
08-18-2017, 12:16 PM
Level Restriction PlZ (-/+5) -_-
Duckypowerz
08-22-2017, 07:45 PM
We need +/-5 back it made all pvp lvls active and created chances for people to enjoy the game at any level without worrying about people that were 30-40+ lvls higher joining and boosting off of them and ruining pvp for everyone.
Burningdex
08-24-2017, 01:52 AM
I doubt it will be re-implemented, as much as that pains me to say.
humiiii
08-24-2017, 06:29 AM
You guys don't seem to understand.
No devs on the forums, looks like they have other things to do.
The only reason there's no PvP level difference is because they want everyone to go endgame and buy plat to reach max level, but I hope you already know that.
The game is dead, I suggest you start playing games that are worth your time (ex: Albion online)
Btw I don't care if someone replies
Kurvy
08-24-2017, 05:37 PM
Itd be cool to have 5 lvl back, it wont make much money but some of the people who were affected have spent years playing PL, I Wouldnt wanta go out like that
yannjoel
08-26-2017, 04:28 AM
I just have kinda quitted pl since they removed lowlevelpvp. Just come back somtimes to check if they finally added 5/2 lvl back