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Purplemint
03-29-2017, 09:10 AM
Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Option 1:
Create a "lend" button when trading stuffs.
Player 1 lends his weapon/vanity(havent thought of gold yet) on trading option. Tapped the "lend" button.
Player 2 received a confirmation. Saying that the item will be automatically returned to player 1 after 8 hours. (I dont think if it would be enough).
The borrowed stuffs should be locked on player 2 account for 8 hours (that way he wont be able to trade it to someone else/transfer it to another account).

This way, player 1 wouldnt worry bout his stuff while hes offline. Plus this proly good so players can still enjoy having friends on the game and not learning to be selfish.

Some of you will think players who got scammed are idiots. For years of playing the game, didnt imagine that id be one of them. Trusting someone is part of being a human. Its so easy to say, move on, chrge it to experience. But i dont want this thing to be one of the lessons ull learn from the game. Ur suggestions might help sts. Proly understand the fact that they have lots of things to do. Lots of reports coming in and they cant investigate all of it. So it takes months before it get fixed. On this matter we should also try to help them. For the sake of other innocent players who havent been scammed yet.

And yes for those who havent been scammed yet (who thinks trusting someone is a form of stupidity). This is my message: Always put yourself in other people's shoes . If you feel that it hurts you, it probably hurts the person too. (If this doesnt work, just forget it. Lol)

Option 2:
These should be fixed.
Creating new char costs plat/story tokens. Changing ign costs plat. Its so easy to create multiple accounts if u have lots of devices. A new life for scammers (so easy).

I suggest disabling creating new char/changing ign.

If its not possible, make it 200 plat. Creating new char/changing ign. More expensive would be much better.

Option 3:
Cry and quit the game (just kidding)

Thanks for reading. Hope u guys have suggestions too. This is for the improvement of the game. Keep loving it no matter what. Peace!

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Chocolaty
03-29-2017, 10:48 AM
or just dont give other people your stuff to use like dumb dumb. :stupid::stupid::stupid:

Purplemint
03-29-2017, 11:58 AM
or just dont give other people your stuff to use like dumb dumb. :stupid::stupid::stupid:
So i gues ure one of the selfish players in game. Thats good to know. I hope u wont get scammed by someone so close to u.

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Chocolaty
03-29-2017, 12:07 PM
So i gues ure one of the selfish players in game. Thats good to know. I hope u wont get scammed by someone so close to u.

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Your one of those Dumb Dumb players. Thats good to know. How can i get scammed, if i never let anyone use my hard earned item?

There are no such thing as scammers just impatient people and Dumb Dumbs. :distress:

If you get "Scammed" its your own fault not anyone else's. Its the sad truth.

Purplemint
03-29-2017, 12:16 PM
Your one of those Dumb Dumb players. Thats good to know. How can i get scammed, if i never let anyone use my hard earned item?

There are no such thing as scammers just impatient people and Dumb Dumbs. :distress:

If you get "Scammed" its your own fault not anyone else's. Its the sad truth.
I guess u dont know/havent experienced trusting someone. Keep all ur golds/item to urself. Dont let anyone come into ur life.

#alone

Call me anything u like if it pleases you. U have ur opinions and i got mine too. U proly dont know about respect too. Well gl to yah bud.

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Bmlty
03-29-2017, 12:19 PM
I agree with your idea of being a option to lend items for a certain amount of time. Gives other players a chance to have some fun until they get their own items

Chocolaty
03-29-2017, 12:25 PM
I guess u dont know/havent experienced trusting someone. Keep all ur golds/item to urself. Dont let anyone come into ur life.

#alone

Call me anything u like if it pleases you. U have ur opinions and i got mine too. U proly dont know about respect too. Well gl to yah bud.

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If you need to give gold/item so people will come into your life it sounds like they arent there for you just your stuff.

Purplemint
03-29-2017, 12:27 PM
If you need to give gold/item so people will come into your life it sounds like they arent there for you just your stuff.
So u dont know how to share too? 😯

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Chocolaty
03-29-2017, 12:32 PM
So u dont know how to share too? ��

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Sharing leads to being scammed.

Ocanaasibe
03-29-2017, 12:33 PM
Exactly bro I agree. There should be a lend item but it might affect the game economy but still scamming will be reduced to a huge level.
Ign: ocanaasibe :)

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Purplemint
03-29-2017, 12:38 PM
Sharing leads to being scammed.
Thats exctly my point. U make friends, u help, u trust one another, u share stuffs then u get scammed.

The reason why im suggesting these options. So players wouldnt be like you. Not trusting anyone on the game.

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Chocolaty
03-29-2017, 12:50 PM
Thats exctly my point. U make friends, u help, u trust one another, u share stuffs then u get scammed.

The reason why im suggesting these options. So players wouldnt be like you. Not trusting anyone on the game.

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I trust alot of people in this game, but i dont go handling out my hard earned items willy-nilly. I dont share but i do loan item/gold. I exchange equal item with said person.

Friend A: I need 5m fast bro i need your help.
Me: What do you have for insurance?
Friend A: Heroic egg
Me: My Tavern we trade.

Thats what i do i loan gold/item for something of equal value. When they have enough to pay be back i give back there item/gold. No one loses anything this way and ive been doing this for 4 years now. Never been scammed never will be.

Yes StS can make a feature like this, but its not as simple as it looks. A lot of work, time, and money has to go into this type of game mechanic.

Fyrce
03-29-2017, 12:54 PM
Not really, but I do think if you lend, just make sure you are ready for it to be a gift. Never lend anything that, when lost, is fatal to your play. Of course, probably nothing is fatal. Personally, I think it's a mindset thing.

I suppose if there were a LEND button, the LENT item would have to have restrictions on it. It could not be gifted or sold or deleted. Would there be a restriction on jeweling the item as well? And the character with a LENT item in its inventory could not be renamed or deleted, which of course, would lead to lots of BUG posts about inability to rename character (I am sure someone will claim they do not know why), and inability to delete character (I am sure someone will claim they do not know why). And a BAN would result in all LENT items being returned to their proper owners. Sounds like a lot of work. Will players even want this? Sounds like it would lead to a whole other bunch of categories of complaints. Oh well, one thing a small % of players (as in RL) are good at: Complaining.

Purplemint
03-29-2017, 12:55 PM
Exactly bro I agree. There should be a lend item but it might affect the game economy but still scamming will be reduced to a huge level.
Ign: ocanaasibe :)

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Ty for ur comment. Yes im thinking bout that too.. maybe they can just allow players to borrow stuffs from their friends for like once/twice a week. Hehe

It feels good to help friends. Not only on running elite maps/quests/etc.. it would be better if once in a while u can let them borrow ur stuffs (like what real friends do in real life - sharing). If thre will be a "lend" button. Thre wouldnt be a trusting issues anymore. Cuz ure sure that ur stuffs will be back after 8 hours or so.

U made friends, no worries bout scammers anymore, u and ur friends had a peace of mind and totally enjoyed the game.

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Purplemint
03-29-2017, 01:01 PM
I trust alot of people in this game, but i dont go handling out my hard earned items willy-nilly. I dont share but i do loan item/gold. I exchange equal item with said person.

Friend A: I need 5m fast bro i need your help.
Me: What do you have for insurance?
Friend A: Heroic egg
Me: My Tavern we trade.

Thats what i do i loan gold/item for something of equal value. When they have enough to pay be back i give back there item/gold. No one loses anything this way and ive been doing this for 4 years now. Never been scammed never will be.

Yes StS can make a feature like this, but its not as simple as it looks. A lot of work, time, and money has to go into this type of game mechanic.
I know.. but thres nothin wrong bout suggesting something for the improvemnt of the game.

And i dont wnt my friends to think that i dont trust them, so i dont do the exchanging of equal items.

I know no one has to be blamed but me. Cuz i trusted the guy.

Thnks for ur comment. Itll be helpful for others.

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Ocanaasibe
03-29-2017, 01:02 PM
Ty for ur comment. Yes im thinking bout that too.. maybe they can just allow players to borrow stuffs from their friends for like once/twice a week. Hehe

It feels good to help friends. Not only on running elite maps/quests/etc.. it would be better if once in a while u can let them borrow ur stuffs (like what real friends do in real life - sharing). If thre will be a "lend" button. Thre wouldnt be a trusting issues anymore. Cuz ure sure that ur stuffs will be back after 8 hours or so.

U made friends, no worries bout scammers anymore, u and ur friends had a peace of mind and totally enjoyed the game.

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Yes. For example if you need a speed for a bg and yours is under upgrade you can just ask someone to lend it to you because you know your item will return to you safely but I think it will effect the game economy and prices will fall more because people will prefer others to lend their items and will not buy themselves anyway it aint a bad idea.
Ign:ocanaasibe

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Energizeric
03-29-2017, 01:29 PM
I agree that a lend option would be great. The items would then become untradable, unstashable, and would not be able to be deleted either. Then after 24 hours, they would automatically be returned to the owner.

This could also lead to the option of renting items, since a payment amount could be agreed upon in the lending transaction. So players could rent an item from another player in order to try it out and see if they like it before spending the gold to buy one.

creeepycreeepy
03-29-2017, 01:32 PM
+1 this is a good idea!

Fyrce
03-29-2017, 01:45 PM
Argh, lending items for payment would just lead to a whole other category of hate and drama.

I still think it's more a personal point of view and responsibility thing. Just remember any item using the GIVE button could be a gift. If it affects your game play, then dont do it. If you will live and learn from it, AND remember to take responsibility for hitting the GIVE button, the go right ahead and do it.

Piranha
03-29-2017, 02:28 PM
Option 1 is a nice idea actually!

Suentous PO
03-29-2017, 03:37 PM
largely agreed w Fyrce here.
this isnt necessary at all, ppl will still get scammed. Theres no need to dedicate the devs time to this as it wouldnt benefit the majority of players, and a great deal of other things the devs could do would.
theyre working on a new game and that always makes that the older games have less attention at times.

6-7 years in sts games and ive never been scammed, do have friends, and dont lend what i wouldnt be willing to loose.

Amicusdei
03-29-2017, 03:38 PM
Don't give anything to anyone unless you can afford to lose it.

Horme
03-29-2017, 04:24 PM
I have some of friends in the game, and they never ask to borrow my items, neither do I. It is weird if lending things is the way you are making friends.

Purplemint
03-29-2017, 06:27 PM
I have some of friends in the game, and they never ask to borrow my items, neither do I. It is weird if lending things is the way you are making friends.
I dont usually lend stuffs. Thres just this 1 time from a recent friend who borrowed stuffs from me. What he did was planned (thats what other friends said). And i got a feeling that hes a pro scammer. Hiding from other accounts/chars afterwrds.

If ure friends doesnt borrow stuffs from u. I guess ure lucky. And u proly have rich friends that they dont even bother to ask to borrow stuffs from you.

On the other hand. Ty for ur comment.

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shadowronn
03-30-2017, 12:20 AM
A simpler solution that will save sts and us time and money is .......

1) dont trust anyone you don't know in real life.
thats all your never gonna get scammed that way. And about lending wont that lead to very few people buying thing when they can just borrow it?cuz if they borrow it its a fool proof way of getting items to use.

Azerothraven
03-30-2017, 01:42 AM
We had this idea suggested last year as well but obviously it was not implemented. I personally think it's too much of a hassle but I do like the idea of it. I was once scammed by one of my close online friend; I gave him Arcane dragon blades and he blocked me and kicked me out of the guild right away. But I knew the risk, and I took a chance on that friend. I don't see this being happening any time soon but maybe sts will surprise us one day.

Right now I only trust my guild master because she is rich af and we have a good relation and my brothers in real life.

P.S. don't share something if you are not willing to lose it.

Aziiii
03-30-2017, 11:49 AM
All those here who comment "dont lend items " i call it bluff , im sure everyone gave SOMETHING at one point , even a Lix, ank ... something.....
It's a worldwide game people have friends, family who play and share/ lent items, dont't be so harsh and judge someone who actualy came up with an ideea to change things, and prevent scamms from happening. It's already dissapointing to see this happen, let's not make it even harder for him.
Take care :)
Azi

bosscasipong4315
03-30-2017, 12:16 PM
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aillaaaa
03-30-2017, 04:06 PM
I do love your first idea! And yes something should be changed

Fyrce
03-30-2017, 04:21 PM
Um, i dont lend elixirs; i give them. I dont lend gold; i give them. Due to the other people's personalities, sometimes i get the stuff back, which btw is also something to notice in your friends. If you always take, I am not your friend.

I do lend out some equips, not usually though and not to beggars. people who want too much are bad investments. I dont lend stuff i am using. Mostly its stuff just sitting in my inventories, that i like and might be useful but which i am not using. If I did not get the items back, it would be an annoyance, but otherwise, hardly noticeable. However, I am an unforgiving personality in RL. As I tell the immediate people around me: I am nice. But not THAT nice.

But i think over 4 years, i can count on my fingers the times I expected an item to be returned. And over 4 years, all non-gifts have been returned. I did do a couple times where I accepted collateral, but meh, i have other preferences.

Ydra
03-30-2017, 08:16 PM
Option 3 is also pretty effective.
0% chance of getting scammed afterwards.

Tootex
03-30-2017, 09:26 PM
Perhaps instead of lending an item STS could create a system where only the stats/procs/awakenings etc of your item are lent to another player which would temporarily replace the stats/procs/awakenings on their equipped item for a small fee- for example, you are borrowing my weapon which means your weapon will take on the stats etc of my weapon and override your weapon stats (for an hour or so). I know people would ideally like to have the actual item (for the bling bling) but doing it like I've suggested will remove any chance of being scammed. People can delete or rename their character with no loss to the lender or the alternative would be to disable renaming, deleting your account etc whilst an item on loan is in your possesion

Horme
03-30-2017, 09:40 PM
If they disbale trade system and the only way peoples buy/sell stuffs is in auction, the chance of scam will be reduced very significant.

Purplemint
03-30-2017, 09:45 PM
If they disbale trade system and the only way peoples buy/sell stuffs is in auction, the chance of scam will be reduced very significant.
I totally agree.

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shadowronn
03-30-2017, 10:44 PM
If they disbale trade system and the only way peoples buy/sell stuffs is in auction, the chance of scam will be reduced very significant.

if they disable trade system the no matter how over priced plat users sell for we f2p players have no choice but to buy em.and if sts makes everything farmable then plat users.........

Fyrce
03-30-2017, 10:51 PM
There are lots of games w no trading. They lack the great attraction of STS' Legends games social system. I really enjoy randomly spa...um...gifting people. I wish I could also gift gold. And during events, its great fun to be an impromptu store buying all sorts of event items. I think there is not a problem with most trades. Is it 100% perfect? Name one system implemented by humans that is 100% perfect. Just one.

jonasDgreat
03-31-2017, 11:26 AM
If they disbale trade system and the only way peoples buy/sell stuffs is in auction, the chance of scam will be reduced very significant.

hoarder might control the auction house if they do this because there is no other way to buy items. as for the mercher it's gonna be hard to merch items, btw the buy/sell forum will be shutdown because if ur looking for items u just have to search it.

Hercules
03-31-2017, 11:43 AM
Interesting, nice idea keep it up!

Pillowhead
04-01-2017, 02:22 AM
Atleast you learned this lesson through AL and not in real life. Everyone has to go through this, that's just life.

Dont
04-01-2017, 09:07 AM
Waiting for this update soon :D