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Mewtuh
04-15-2017, 08:10 PM
Hey, so i see alot of mages doing Mausoleum with 8k hp. I heard thats a good build, so i wanna try that. What gear are u guys using for str build on mage? And how many skill points in str?

Veenihiv
04-15-2017, 08:52 PM
Put pts in str till u reach 6-8 to 7k HP
Then all Int... Put exc nature + in gear
Gears:
Hexstone/Hexblast staff or Immo Staff for mobs...Drag Staff for boss
Helm : Dusk Brut lvl 61
Armor: Balance armor
Belt: Brilliance lvl 56
Ring : AR or int str legendary lvl 61
Pend : PP

Hope this helps

xtian02
04-15-2017, 10:34 PM
Immo staff and drag staff, mythic set,brilliance belt,speed set for gear.
100int and all pts for str. I have 8k HP with 1.1k dmg with that built.

runagain
04-16-2017, 04:34 AM
Hey, so i see alot of mages doing Mausoleum with 8k hp. I heard thats a good build, so i wanna try that. What gear are u guys using for str build on mage? And how many skill points in str?
Hey hey,

This is my build for Mausoleum.

Base Points
-All into points into STR

Skills
-FB: 1-2-3
-Gale: 1-2-3-4 ( if u use Speedset go 1-2-4)
-Clock: 1-2-3-4
-Shield: 1-3-4 (without wave)
-Ice: 1-2 (if u use Speedset also unlock 4)

Passives
-5/5 Might
-5/5 Durable
-5/5 Agility
-5/5 Knowledge

Mastery
-10/10 Gale
-10/10 or 9/10 Clock


Gears
-Belt: Legend lv61 belt (Fatality type)
-Helmet and Armor:Lv61 brutality helmet and armor
-Ring:Blood Ruby of Shuyal and Venom Haste
- Pendant: Ancient planar pendant
-Weapons: Flame forget Staff of Hexstone lv47 and Dragon Hunter Staff lv46

Jewels
None

That's my layout for Mausoleum 1-6 and more high elite maps.

I hope this helps you a little.

Good luck!

Mewtuh
04-16-2017, 04:49 AM
Hey hey,

This is my build for Mausoleum.

Base Points
-All into points into STR

Skills
-FB: 1-2-3
-Gale: 1-2-3-4 ( if u use Speedset go 1-2-4)
-Clock: 1-2-3-4
-Shield: 1-3-4 (without wave)
-Ice: 1-2 (if u use Speedset also unlock 4)

Passives
-5/5 Might
-5/5 Durable
-5/5 Agility
-5/5 Knowledge

Mastery
-10/10 Gale
-10/10 or 9/10 Clock


Gears
-Belt: Legend lv61 belt (Fatality type)
-Helmet and Armor:Lv61 brutality helmet and armor
-Ring:Blood Ruby of Shuyal and Venom Haste
- Pendant: Ancient planar pendant
-Weapons: Flame forget Staff of Hexstone lv47 and Dragon Hunter Staff lv46

Jewels
None

That's my layout for Mausoleum 1-6 and more high elite maps.

I hope this helps you a little.

Good luck!
Thats great, thanks :)

Terminhater
04-18-2017, 08:38 AM
It's not really a good build. Shoving all STR into your base points to get 8k hp, doesn't look right and also I ran with these type of mages and the run wasn't fun at all in mauso 6. Forever and a day whacking them mobs at m5/6 with stats belonging to a level 46 mage and hp belonging to a level 41 tank, and they still fall like paper.

I don't want to sound critical but I favour non of the above builds.

Plqgue
04-18-2017, 08:45 AM
It's not really a good build. Shoving all STR into your base points to get 8k hp, doesn't look right and also I ran with these type of mages and the run wasn't fun at all in mauso 6. Forever and a day whacking them mobs at m5/6 with stats belonging to a level 46 mage and hp belonging to a level 41 tank, and they still fall like paper.

I don't want to sound critical but I favour non of the above builds.

Actually it's a really good build for people without voice and IDK what you're talking about but the damage loss never messed with my proccing when I used this build.....

Terminhater
04-18-2017, 09:15 AM
Actually it's a really good build for people without voice and IDK what you're talking about but the damage loss never messed with my proccing when I used this build.....

I disagree on the 'it's a really good build' maybe you can sway my opinion, I wouldn't mind running mauso 5/6 with you.

Plqgue
04-18-2017, 09:32 AM
I disagree on the 'it's a really good build' maybe you can sway my opinion, I wouldn't mind running mauso 5/6 with you.

I have voice set now so I have 8K HP with minimal effort but for mages without voice it really is the best build possible

Terminhater
04-18-2017, 09:36 AM
I have voice set now so I have 8K HP with minimal effort but for mages without voice it really is the best build possible

Thanks, but I wouldn't recommend all STR build for a mage.

Plqgue
04-18-2017, 09:47 AM
Thanks, but I wouldn't recommend all STR build for a mage.

Do you play as a mage? If not I wouldn't take your recommendation seriously

Terminhater
04-18-2017, 10:01 AM
Do you play as a mage? If not I wouldn't take your recommendation seriously

Yes I do play mage but rogue is primary toon. My Mage build is made from numerous recommendations from mages on the forum in sorcerers class category. I find their knowledge on the mage class very informative and helpful, from their knowledge I have built my mage and continue to do so.

Plqgue
04-18-2017, 10:05 AM
Yes I do play mage but rogue is primary toon. My Mage build is made from numerous recommendations from mages on the forum in sorcerers class category. I find their knowledge on the mage class very informative and helpful, from their knowledge I have built my mage and continue to do so.

How many maus points does your mage have? How many hours have you put in in maus on mage to make these assumptions that old builds are still useful?

Plqgue
04-18-2017, 10:13 AM
As a person who has tested both full int and full str builds and a plethora of hybrid builds one of which I use to this day I can tell you str build is better for us squishys in maus full int will just get you killed over and over again. If you don't want full str try putting 100 extra str and if that doesn't help respect and add 20-40 more the extra HP helps a lot

Terminhater
04-18-2017, 10:14 AM
How many maus points does your mage have? How many hours have you put in in maus on mage to make these assumptions that old builds are still useful?

They are not old builds and they seem to work fine for me and many others I know. You do not need full STR build in mausoleum.

Plqgue
04-18-2017, 10:18 AM
They are not old builds and they seem to work fine for me and many others I know. You do not need full STR build in mausoleum.

Your words don't make the str build any less useful... how many maus points does your mage have? How many builds have you personally tested?

Terminhater
04-18-2017, 10:27 AM
Your words don't make the str build any less useful... how many maus points does your mage have? How many builds have you personally tested?

I've ran with full STR mages and found them rather useless. I've tested numerous builds across all toons based on advice from people I've been associated with and info on this forum.

Ok, next expansion is hopefully close, I would like to run my mage with your full STR mage in elite endgame map(s). It would be nice to compare builds then.

Plqgue
04-18-2017, 10:37 AM
I've ran with full STR mages and found them rather useless. I've tested numerous builds across all toons based on advice from people I've been associated with and info on this forum.

Ok, next expansion is hopefully close, I would like to run my mage with your full STR mage in elite endgame map(s). It would be nice to compare builds then.

Str build is for maus not elites
I'll take you on a few maus runs and I'll even respec to full str for you I've never ran with 9K+ HP my ign is jlst add me

Terminhater
04-18-2017, 10:45 AM
Str build is for maus not elites
I'll take you on a few maus runs and I'll even respec to full str for you I've never ran with 9K+ HP my ign is jlst add me

Thank you, my toon will be a rogue, if you want to run with my mage, next expansion. I have struggled running with my rogue with full STR mages. Thanks for the offer :)

Nea
04-18-2017, 11:38 AM
Thanks, but I wouldn't recommend all STR build for a mage.
You are not a MAGE, as I can see. If he tries to clear something about MAGES, you should let MAGES help him. And for ppl who do not own a Order Set, this (STR) build is the best since mages are being needed for their weapon's proc, not for their pathetic damage, and this (STR) build can make them stay alive for longer while proc is making its job..But If you want pure damage.. That at the end will be less.... You can go and make a party with 4 rogues for Maus 5-6 which is... So lame.

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SkipperSkinner
04-18-2017, 12:01 PM
They are not old builds and they seem to work fine for me and many others I know. You do not need full STR build in mausoleum.

I have ran with you in maus while I was using this build...and you said yourself that the run was great, In my opinion the STR build is the BEST build in deep maus, using proc to do damage and skills to stun(and shield), there have been times I've ran maus 5-6 with 3 other mages over and over using maus pass, all of us using this build and it was a cake walk

P.S.- this build can be done wrong if you don't use immo/flame staff/dragon(for bosses)

Terminhater
04-18-2017, 12:51 PM
I have ran with you in maus while I was using this build...and you said yourself that the run was great, In my opinion the STR build is the BEST build in deep maus, using proc to do damage and skills to stun(and shield), there have been times I've ran maus 5-6 with 3 other mages over and over using maus pass, all of us using this build and it was a cake walk

P.S.- this build can be done wrong if you don't use immo/flame staff/dragon(for bosses)

Yes the run was great, I say that amongst a good pt. Also that you're a skilfull mage.

illwilly
04-18-2017, 12:56 PM
One loose alott of bonus dmg, wich make skills pretty much do half the dmg they could do. I have played 5600 hp mage with no shield (4x dmg skills) in m6 with no problem, just use dmg redu lix, have 3 voice now, so 7400 hp. But i still use dmg reduction lix to save ankh.
The right pet, timing of aa at witches and stay away from giants red zone is key to die less, curse from witches and hit of giants still kill me if I fail to move or use nilbog aa right, even with 7400hp 25% dmg reduction lix 3% dmg reduct from pet.
Imo playing with mages that have full int makes less time on pulls and less death overall..

I dont judge anyone, do what you feel is smoothest for you.. but i prefere the other mage have full int. The time difference and amount of lixes spent on a map is pretty big imo..

SkipperSkinner
04-18-2017, 01:40 PM
One loose alott of bonus dmg, wich make skills pretty much do half the dmg they could do. I have played 5600 hp mage with no shield (4x dmg skills) in m6 with no problem, just use dmg redu lix, have 3 voice now, so 7400 hp. But i still use dmg reduction lix to save ankh.
The right pet, timing of aa at witches and stay away from giants red zone is key to die less, curse from witches and hit of giants still kill me if I fail to move or use nilbog aa right, even with 7400hp 25% dmg reduction lix 3% dmg reduct from pet.
Imo playing with mages that have full int makes less time on pulls and less death overall..

I dont judge anyone, do what you feel is smoothest for you.. but i prefere the other mage have full int. The time difference and amount of lixes spent on a map is pretty big imo..

If i had set i would't use STR build :strawberry:

msustro
04-18-2017, 01:57 PM
For Mausoleum I've been testing an STR build for about a month with voice set (STR has 13k health vs INT with 10k). I like both builds but STR runs are noticeably slower versus pure INT using either Immo or Hex staff, damage really helps clear mobs in between procs. I think if you have a good PT then pure INT has the edge, while STR might be better for random PT.

nightmaresmoke
04-18-2017, 03:20 PM
Mages should stun and damage mobs and slight cc war tank and protect pt axe some wandering bosses as for rogues mob cc with drag blades and as always deal massive damage to bosses never use bows on mobs if i see pug rogues using bows on mobs ill leave immediately as using bows with mobs doesn't really help the pt at all.

"An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, evil for evil"

SkipperSkinner
04-18-2017, 03:46 PM
For Mausoleum I've been testing an STR build for about a month with voice set (STR has 13k health vs INT with 10k). I like both builds but STR runs are noticeably slower versus pure INT using either Immo or Hex staff, damage really helps clear mobs in between procs. I think if you have a good PT then pure INT has the edge, while STR might be better for random PT.

You have full voice set though, as far as set goes go INT but without set its hard getting 10k health with STR build let alone INT, ( btw hi Msustro its me Whereat :cheerful:)

eleasah
04-20-2017, 09:58 AM
i am mage and tried stenghbuild, but i couldnt deal with. Used hex and immo and when wep not procced it had take long to do the maps. So iam back to intbuild. Atm i have some points on strengh cause low health in random Teams can be Bad. I use balanced wep now and set 3 item. With good Team i died not with 5,8k health and with bad Team i die still with near 8k HP. Using right pets at right time, hell a lot. for example, i ever want cry when i see pple use hisha all time in maus. for what? pinkies drop without luck, other items too. and i like hisha, but for maus its really not the best choice for run in my opinion

runagain
04-20-2017, 11:13 AM
It's not really a good build. Shoving all STR into your base points to get 8k hp, doesn't look right and also I ran with these type of mages and the run wasn't fun at all in mauso 6. Forever and a day whacking them mobs at m5/6 with stats belonging to a level 46 mage and hp belonging to a level 41 tank, and they still fall like paper.

I don't want to sound critical but I favour non of the above builds.
It's a very good build for mage, proc matters, not damage =)

Ucamaeben
04-20-2017, 11:37 AM
I would awaken your items in a way to balance STR and INT. Just my opinion. I run a slightly balanced warrior and it seems to help all around.

You Mad Or Nah
04-20-2017, 08:16 PM
It's not really a good build. Shoving all STR into your base points to get 8k hp, doesn't look right and also I ran with these type of mages and the run wasn't fun at all in mauso 6. Forever and a day whacking them mobs at m5/6 with stats belonging to a level 46 mage and hp belonging to a level 41 tank, and they still fall like paper.

I don't want to sound critical but I favour non of the above builds.
Maybe the mages u ran with sucked. Imo

extrapayah
04-20-2017, 09:59 PM
this build is only for mages who have both flameforged staff/immortal staff for mobs and dragon staff for boss,

rogues and mages (without those staffs), will only get punished by bosses who spawn mobs,
ofc the case will be different if there are more than one mage who has full clock mastery, in randoms, you can't expect them to always have it

imo, it's a build that is requiring a very specific team and gear, but at the same time, not trusting the team's tank/aggro holder