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Justg
05-17-2017, 10:10 AM
New Artifact System


Arlorians! I have great news; our excavators have discovered a brand new item!

Found in a lost realm beneath the surface of Arlor, several Artifacts have been unearthed that can exponentially boost a players stats.

There is a catch though; the artifacts are currently being guarded by the Ruins old inhabitants, lead by the Forgotten King.

You may be asking how you may ascertain one of these snazzy artifacts. Well the first step is to head over to Garetta and find the entrance to the Forgotten Ruins Hub. Its right next to the Blacksmith!

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Inside look for the NPC Reznok. He can fill you in on what’s going on and how to get the artifact.

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The Rune vendor will take any fragments found in the Forgotten Ruins and convert them into full fledge artifact Runes.

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If you need a cheaper option to enter the Ruins, head over to Kozner. I hear he has some tokens that can let you in though he tends to ask for favors in return.

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Once you are ready to venture forth, head towards the giant glowing portal. The portal will demand compensation before the player can enter. Once payment is made the portal will directly teleport player to the Forgotten Ruins. A word of caution, only one player can be transported at a time. This means you will have to explore and battle on your own

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Somewhere in the Ruins, you shall meet with the Forgotten King Arturas. Defeat him and he will drop rune fragments for you and possibly other treasures

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Artifacts start out as Commons and can be upgraded all the way to Arcane. Upgrades will be crafted using Magna and Victus Runes.

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Players will also be able to socket jewels into their artifacts!

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Fully upgraded Arcane Artifacts give players a +100 stat boost and a cool new particle effect!

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New Heroic Pets


Grave, Hazel, and Konga have gone back from whence they came, and Koko, Tankton, and Uries get their evolution. Available this weekend in instant-open massive twilights:

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Bug Fixes


Blinky slow no longer ignores Razor Shield / Juggernaut

Questions and comments below, and thanks!

- g

greekAL
05-17-2017, 11:38 AM
hello! how many free entries we have daily? and why no option for f2p players to hardcore farm them? :/ 25 plats per entrance ar alot too!

Hercules
05-17-2017, 11:38 AM
OMG! OMG! Love it <3!!!!!!!!!

Kairihearts
05-17-2017, 11:38 AM
Wow so awesome justG is the particale effect same as kershal ? Please clarify :)

Mohok
05-17-2017, 11:40 AM
Omg this is so cool

Eidoln
05-17-2017, 11:41 AM
wowwww XD 100 stat

Joebembo
05-17-2017, 11:42 AM
Plat to enter.... 😐

Bembo✌

Kairihearts
05-17-2017, 11:42 AM
hello! how many free entries we have daily? and why no option for f2p players to hardcore farm them? :/ 25 plats per entrance ar alot too!

Yes please answer this justG :)

I think its unlimted hopefully otherwise its probs useless (:

Foumagus
05-17-2017, 11:45 AM
How are we supposed to attain the tokens for entering ( other than plat ) the ruins??

greekAL
05-17-2017, 11:45 AM
Yes please answer this justG :)

I think its unlimted hopefully otherwise its probs useless (:

ofc wont be unlimited otherwise why have 25 plats option :/

Mohok
05-17-2017, 11:47 AM
Is it gonna end next week or it's going to be for ever on?

runagain
05-17-2017, 11:50 AM
Omg so Nice!!!

Great job, can't wait untill tomorrow!

Joebembo
05-17-2017, 11:56 AM
This gonna be a problem for players that don't/cant use plat :/

Bembo✌

buysell
05-17-2017, 11:59 AM
only 60 lvl ?? not have low lvl ??

Kairihearts
05-17-2017, 12:00 PM
ofc wont be unlimited otherwise why have 25 plats option :/

Oh well then its useless to non plat players
I hope it isnt but sure seems that way

runagain
05-17-2017, 12:01 PM
only 60 lvl ?? not have low lvl ??
Better =), u want to see a lv 1-2 Twink with a +100 int buff??? Lmao

Spell
05-17-2017, 12:01 PM
Aura hype is realllll xD

Cant wait to add more aura to my discoball sorc :3

P.s im curious as to what other goodies will drop along with artifact thingies!?

buysell
05-17-2017, 12:05 PM
Better =), u want to see a lv 1-2 Twink with a +100 int buff??? Lmao

10-11 have 150 dmg // 1500 armor 3.6k hp warrior....
dont die hahhhaa need 200dex buff. hhahahahaaha

60lwl give 100 dex
10lwl give 16dex meybe godd hahahha

Korabiv
05-17-2017, 12:07 PM
Ok not what I expected. My first guess would have been artifacts come from locked crates. Maybe I'm just reading this wrong but heres what I'm getting out of this post:

1. Plat enterance for the new map. This will exclude probably 90% of players. Some who buy plat might not even find this worth the investment (25 plat) so maybe only 5% of players will enter this new map.

2. From what I understand, we must solo this map (at least it makes it sound like this). The problem with this is that it will exclude a vast majority of people who are "undergeared" or unable to solo maps. If mobs and boss are difficult (they usually are based on passed expansions), only the op, overgeared people will be able to complete.

So is this basically for the top 1% of players? Again sorry if I'm misreading this. Hopefully there will be ways for the average, normal geared player to play this content.

Justg
05-17-2017, 12:08 PM
Is it gonna end next week or it's going to be for ever on?

This system runs forEVA!


Wow so awesome justG is the particale effect same as kershal ? Please clarify :)

It is similar in that it orbits the player, but it has a unique seed particle.


only 60 lvl ?? not have low lvl ??

Commons start off at level 10 and rise 10 levels every rarity upgrade, so Mythics are at 50 and Arcanes are at 60.


How are we supposed to attain the tokens for entering ( other than plat ) the ruins??

The quests that Kozner gives grants tokens (1 hourly and 1 daily).



hello! how many free entries we have daily? and why no option for f2p players to hardcore farm them? :/ 25 plats per entrance ar alot too!

3 free daily and 1 hourly (if you do the quests).


Oh well then its useless to non plat players. I hope it isnt but sure seems that way

Free players will have a path to grind all the way through this system.

greekAL
05-17-2017, 12:15 PM
This system runs forEVA!



It is similar in that it orbits the player, but it has a unique seed particle.



Commons start off at level 10 and rise 10 levels every rarity upgrade, so Mythics are at 50 and Arcanes are at 60.



The quests that Kozner gives grants tokens (1 hourly and 1 daily).




3 free daily and 1 hourly (if you do the quests).



Free players will have a path to grind all the way through this system.

those items will be tradable at least?

extrapayah
05-17-2017, 12:16 PM
more reason to put 2x offers event :D

Kairihearts
05-17-2017, 12:17 PM
Thanks G basically only 4 entrys a day and thats it can do that in like 5 mabye 10mins so what else is there?

Some kind of essance we pick up or nothing?

Spell
05-17-2017, 12:17 PM
Can we get a plat sale pretty plzzzzzzzz. 25 plat per entry is alot! A plat sale would help a bit huhu :p

Abuze
05-17-2017, 12:20 PM
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That platinum and gold count though.
#goals

nightmaresmoke
05-17-2017, 12:21 PM
#aurahyped

"An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, evil for evil"

crudmudgeon
05-17-2017, 12:23 PM
Wow. This looks sweet

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deepcy
05-17-2017, 12:28 PM
Warrior takes 30+mins to kill that boss lol 😏😏

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diexdie
05-17-2017, 12:30 PM
Yay low level can using artifact 😂😂😂😂

Javadroid

Shocan
05-17-2017, 12:40 PM
What "other treasures"???

Midgard_papa
05-17-2017, 12:41 PM
Can we get this boss to drop Banished neck :)

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Dhroid
05-17-2017, 12:43 PM
Awesome @.@

gunlet
05-17-2017, 12:45 PM
This map will scale 41-46-56-61 or its best to use Lvl 61 like arena?

thekragle
05-17-2017, 12:47 PM
This is a great addition to the game! I'd love to think I had some hand in inspiring this feature ;)

http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?380938-Dungeon-or-map-that-requires-plat-to-enter

Are the forgotten ruins premium entry for 25 plat tradable? That would be a nice feature if not so gold could be used to aquire entry.

Nice work on the cool new addition!!

Ipoopsy
05-17-2017, 12:54 PM
This sounds like a typical event boss where it's super easy to kill. But more p2p players.

Mohok
05-17-2017, 01:03 PM
Something is weird...... How do we do quests for the entry when u can't enter does that mean we will have a new map also to farm in ? Don't u ask the same guys thin about it

Goldilox
05-17-2017, 01:14 PM
Something is weird...... How do we do quests for the entry when u can't enter does that mean we will have a new map also to farm in ? Don't u ask the same guys thin about it

The Daily quest and hourly quests don't require you to enter the Forgotten Ruins.

-Goldi

Chocolaty
05-17-2017, 01:15 PM
Finally something i can really sink my teeth in! Amazing!!!

Mohok
05-17-2017, 01:18 PM
How do u do them then :)))))

nightmaresmoke
05-17-2017, 01:31 PM
If the boss and mobs will be easy with this new content and with static map structure compared to mauso's random maps, this will be abused by botters,macros etc.. same with arcane chest

"An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, evil for evil"

lissil
05-17-2017, 01:53 PM
Thanks G basically only 4 entrys a day and thats it can do that in like 5 mabye 10mins so what else is there?

Some kind of essance we pick up or nothing?
If I understood it correctly, you would have a maximum of 27 times to enter the map using the non-plat pass. Three passes will come from free daily passes, and 24 for all hourly quest assuming you will actually do it.

Fyrce
05-17-2017, 01:54 PM
This sounds super exciting. Potentially 27 free entries per day. Haha let the aura competition begin!

Goldilox
05-17-2017, 01:57 PM
i wanna make sure i understand this correctly so there is a daily quest and an hourly quest ( like every hour??) so if you do this hourly quest then hypothetically it can give you access 24 times in 1 day plus daily ( sorry if I'am being to literal right now but i wanna clarify)

In theory yes, if you do the hourly quests fast enough you would be able to get 24 (27 total with daily) of the Ruined Tokens. But to clarify the hour cooldown of the quest does not start until the quest is completed. So you would complete the hourly quest then you would have to wait an hour before the quest becomes available again.

Also want to mention that 1 token grants you entry to the Forgotten Ruins so that is a possible total of 27 free entrys a day. Granted you would have to play non stop for 24 hours.

-Goldi

Azemeazed
05-17-2017, 02:06 PM
In theory yes, if you do the hourly quests fast enough you would be able to get 24 (27 total with daily) of the Ruined Tokens. But to clarify the hour cooldown of the quest does not start until the quest is completed. So you would complete the hourly quest then you would have to wait an hour before the quest becomes available again.

Also want to mention that 1 token grants you entry to the Forgotten Ruins so that is a possible total of 27 free entrys a day. Granted you would have to play non stop for 24 hours.

-Goldi

I can do it bro!
:D

Mohok
05-17-2017, 02:09 PM
How many thanks should I get to get 10k plats for free

Ckash
05-17-2017, 02:48 PM
Damn, this is awesome...and you can add jewels too! This is hot.

Kairihearts
05-17-2017, 03:02 PM
The Daily quest and hourly quests don't require you to enter the Forgotten Ruins.

-Goldi

Im so baffled by this so what can you actually do in the ruins can you loot stuff to help with the artifact without the need for quests? Please clarify so confused haha

Kakashis
05-17-2017, 03:09 PM
Not going to lie, if those daily arent too hard, I'm going to multi toon access my way in as to doing the hourly. It's going to be tough competing against plat players.

Shocan
05-17-2017, 03:21 PM
The Daily quest and hourly quests don't require you to enter the Forgotten Ruins.

-Goldi

Hey g said you were gonna be leading the announcment! Why did he??

boljackz
05-17-2017, 03:29 PM
solo.. RIP tanks

Zeus
05-17-2017, 03:51 PM
If the boss and mobs will be easy with this new content and with static map structure compared to mauso's random maps, this will be abused by botters,macros etc.. same with arcane chest

"An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, evil for evil"

Maus can be botted, unfortunately.

Excited for this new content!

bibeolli
05-17-2017, 04:03 PM
Can you add lucky's egg? Thanks

Goldilox
05-17-2017, 04:14 PM
Hey g said you were gonna be leading the announcment! Why did he??

Currently busy working to make sure the content is ready for tomorrow. Technically I did take the pictures and wrote out the walkthrough, but he help clean it up.


Not going to lie, if those daily arent too hard, I'm going to multi toon access my way in as to doing the hourly. It's going to be tough competing against plat players.

The daily quests aren't exactly hard but arent super easy either, definitely benefits to do the hourly along with them. Also you aren't really competing against plat players, more like working with them to get the runes and artifacts. Both Runes and Artifacts are tradeable.


Im so baffled by this so what can you actually do in the ruins can you loot stuff to help with the artifact without the need for quests? Please clarify so confused haha

Both the daily quests and hourly quests are done outside around the areas of Arlor. The quests allow for the players to access the Forgotten Ruins for free. If you don't wish to do either quest then you can enter the Forgotten Ruins by paying plat.

soon
05-17-2017, 04:17 PM
If the enemies are very healthy the warrios will suffer to kill. If they have much damage, the rogues will not be able to survive there.

Shocan
05-17-2017, 04:19 PM
Currently busy working to make sure the content is ready for tomorrow. Technically I did take the pictures and wrote out the walkthrough, but he help clean it up.



The daily quests aren't exactly hard but arent super easy either, definitely benefits to do the hourly along with them. Also you aren't really competing against plat players, more like working with them to get the runes and artifacts. Both Runes and Artifacts are tradeable.



Both the daily quests and hourly quests are done outside around the areas of Arlor. The quests allow for the players to access the Forgotten Ruins for free. If you don't wish to do either quest then you can enter the Forgotten Ruins by paying plat.

That's the best news I've ever heard. TRADEABLE!!! Around what time will this go live. Please also tell timezone.

soon
05-17-2017, 04:23 PM
Will the difficulty be modified by class? Warriors have problems in fighting enemies with high health. And rogue can not survive alone with enemies who have high damage.

TastyGoblin
05-17-2017, 04:24 PM
Omfg thats gonna be good!

Lizzie AL
05-17-2017, 04:28 PM
Sweet but sadly not for my level :P

Shocan
05-17-2017, 04:33 PM
Omfg thats gonna be good!

Lol dude you're late.

TastyGoblin
05-17-2017, 04:35 PM
Lol dude you're late.

I already know about this just wanted to comment here ;D ;pp

Goldilox
05-17-2017, 04:38 PM
Will the difficulty be modified by class? Warriors have problems in fighting enemies with high health. And rogue can not survive alone with enemies who have high damage.

Difficulty is not currently modded by class. I have run the dungeon on every class at multiple levels (lowest level was 6) and was able to complete it. However this is subject to change.


Sweet but sadly not for my level :P

Content was made for all levels.

-Goldi

Shocan
05-17-2017, 04:41 PM
I already know about this just wanted to comment here ;D ;pp

Dude I'm being sarcastic.

Also goldi so the difficulty stays the same! That's interesting.

Thewolfbull
05-17-2017, 05:11 PM
Which class was fastest? Hope i dont have to switch to rogue/mage if warrior is alot slower.

Blank119
05-17-2017, 06:09 PM
Justg is the artifact tradable??

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Kairihearts
05-17-2017, 06:13 PM
Justg is the artifact tradable??

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Check page 3 goldilox post

Tweakymage
05-17-2017, 06:18 PM
Is it tradable?


KEEP CALM AND USE
Duct Tape

thekragle
05-17-2017, 06:34 PM
So the runes and artifacts are tradable, got it. But can you allow players to buy the entrance tokens for the 25 plat and then make them tradable in CS so gold players can get the same advantage as plat players.

Keeese
05-17-2017, 06:35 PM
That's why #Bluelivesmatter we can do it all

leoakre
05-17-2017, 06:55 PM
Exactly as I said last week ... a booty-ton more of crafting !!!

Very interesting but ...

Can we please have 10 crafting slots?

:)

Ansm
05-17-2017, 09:47 PM
new system? so that means this will be permanent?

will0
05-17-2017, 09:53 PM
5 plat to go to map 5 in somberholt ...

loyti
05-17-2017, 09:55 PM
This artifact thing seems like a good addition to the game. But ofc, plat users will be the first to taste its power. The daily quests are also good for non plat players like me, though it needs little more time and effort. Thank again G for adding something new to this game. You definitely do not run out of ideas. (well, i hope you won't. :biggrin:) Back to farming mode again. Good luck to all.

Aziiii
05-17-2017, 11:11 PM
Nice! happy to see there is a way to farm for non plat users too :)

mssweety
05-17-2017, 11:19 PM
noone wonders ?
new maps are coming when is the end of the season and new lvls :D
ps: nice update! <3

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Yes
05-17-2017, 11:46 PM
49k platinum is awesome !!

xHanz
05-17-2017, 11:52 PM
Somethhing to go crazy about not just sitting and merching stuff ty G~!

Kaziscate
05-17-2017, 11:56 PM
I'll be looking forward to seeing more unique artifacts as the game progresses! :)

Inu
05-18-2017, 12:53 AM
Omg cool effect

Energizeric
05-18-2017, 12:56 AM
I just read this post, and here are my thoughts:

1) I really really like that this map is solo. To be honest, I've grown tired of the leeches who enter Southern Gates with 9k heath, 400 damage and a high gold loot set, and then follow the group along as the other players do the killing while they get big loot. Time to carry your own weight. If you don't cause enough damage, maybe time for a respec. If you don't have enough health and armor, maybe time for a respec. No rule says you have to spec for the highest possible damage or highest possible health/armor. Maybe somewhere in the middle is the sweet spot.

2) I'm guessing these hourly quests are going to take more than a minute or two to complete. So most likely there won't be any benefit of doing this on multiple characters except for the daily quest that gives 3 tokens.

3) I like that there is something for all levels here. I intend to try this out with my level 10 sorcerer. Even if at best I can only equip the lowest level artifact, I can sure farm them to sell or transfer them to my level 61.

4) I know it's tempting STS, but please..... Please do NOT introduce awakening for these artifacts!!! I can just see hints of that coming in the weeks ahead.....

5) I guess we will have to see how rare these artifacts are, but no matter what they end up going for on the open market, I have a hard time thinking it is going to be worth it to spend 25 plat to enter this dungeon when you can buy 5 elite awakening gems for the same amount of plat and sell them for almost 100k. Even if they end up being worth many hundreds of thousands of gold, that just means they will be harder to loot, so one trip into the dungeon doesn't guarantee anything. So that leads to this question:

If you pay plat to enter the dungeon, do you have a higher chance of looting an artifact?

Energizeric
05-18-2017, 12:59 AM
Since I keep having issues posting in this forum (keep getting that moderator message), I'm going to split my post up into several smaller posts. So here are my thoughts on this update:

1) I like that this map is done solo. To be honest, I'm really sick and tired of the leeches who enter Elite Southern Gates with 9k health, 400 damage and a high gold loot bonus, and then follow along as the other players do all the killing (and dying). Time to carry your own weight!

Energizeric
05-18-2017, 01:05 AM
2) If you are unable to solo, time to work on your skills, or time to farm easier maps and upgrade your gear.

Energizeric
05-18-2017, 01:17 AM
3) I like that lower level players can farm this dungeon too. I'm going to try this with my level 10 sorcerer. Even if I can only equip the lowest level artifact, I can certainly farm the dungeon and sell the loot or pass it to my level 61.

Energizeric
05-18-2017, 01:22 AM
4) I can't imagine it being worth it to spend 25 plat to enter this dungeon when you can take that same 25 plat and purchase 5 elite awakening elixirs and sell them for about 100k. That leads to the question: If you pay plat to enter this dungeon, does that mean you have a higher chance of looting an artifact?

Pridde
05-18-2017, 01:58 AM
Super excited for thiss!!! Can't wait for it to be live. Timezone differences suck :/

boohgey
05-18-2017, 02:03 AM
This gonna be a problem for players that don't/cant use plat :/

Bembo✌
This is what am about to comment...nailed it

«bobobobooooooohgeeey»

Friday
05-18-2017, 02:14 AM
WOW! Amazing

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boohgey
05-18-2017, 03:26 AM
Is that the main.colors of the effects for each class?I think warriors' should have red color

«bobobobooooooohgeeey»

Shaker Ida
05-18-2017, 05:31 AM
Exactly as I said last week ... a booty-ton more of crafting !!!

Very interesting but ...

Can we please have 10 crafting slots?

:)
And 1k crafting inventory XD

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Imback Al
05-18-2017, 07:11 AM
Season end soon?? Lol please dont make these awaken-able XD

Shocan
05-18-2017, 08:45 AM
Coming soon!! :excitement:

Goldilox
05-18-2017, 10:52 AM
If you pay plat to enter the dungeon, do you have a higher chance of looting an artifact?

If players enter with plat they have a higher chance of looting most things.


Is that the main.colors of the effects for each class?I think warriors' should have red color

Haveing the effect be red caused it to blend with blood and damage effects. The color of the effect is based on the stat (str, dex, & int).

-Goldi

blessedsoundz
05-18-2017, 11:44 AM
all that's left to do is wait and see :)

Zeus
05-18-2017, 11:55 AM
Please allow artifacts to be awakened!

Shocan
05-18-2017, 12:03 PM
Tested: Arena bosses don't count for daily :(

Mohok
05-18-2017, 12:33 PM
Are u kedding me ? How the hell I should get 1000 kills in 1h

Shocan
05-18-2017, 12:37 PM
Are u kedding me ? How the hell I should get 1000 kills in 1h

Easy. Hauntlet. Or you can try tombs! I already finished hourly!

Mouly
05-18-2017, 01:07 PM
It only takes 31 500 platinum to complete the arcane artifact, imagine how long it will take to farm it :eagerness:

extrapayah
05-18-2017, 01:12 PM
in overall, well planned content to make players busy, with (for me) another mindless grind, but then again, artifact is something you can use permanently, and won't get expired with new items (until you release different artifact with different farm method). bad or good, a content that is consumed at slow pace.

also, the statement about it's not a competition is so wrong, imo. there is leaderboard in pve, and pvp, the desperate feeling for new player unable to compete will only make them move to another game quicker. anyway, i'm waiting for 2x cryostar respawn rate ;) thanks

ah yes, also more reason to give us an option to hide the pop up message (especially this 0/1000 mobs quest pop ups), it will endlessly hinders what we're seeing/trying to see in pve, also can be great if we can also hide the damage numbers too (to make us clearly see the cursing mage's icon)

Elshaddoll
05-18-2017, 01:34 PM
"Only one player can enter" rip warriors

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DarrenPR
05-18-2017, 02:14 PM
Free players will have a path to grind all the way through this system.

You get 3 free entrances per day. 1 free entrance per hour. This is with the quests. That is a maximum of 27 entrance tokens per day assuming a player plays 24/7.
Each boss you kill guarantees you 1 fragment as far as I've been able to tell. So this is a maximum of 27 fragments per day.
Looking at the crafting table, it requires 10+20+40+80+160 of each rune to upgrade to arcane.
Summing that together, we get 310 of each rune, or 620 runes in total to upgrade to arcane artifact.
It requires 25 fragments to purchase 1 rune.
So, 620 runes * 25 fragments each rune = 15,500 fragments total to upgrade to arcane.
15,500 fragments at a rate of at most 27 per day assuming playing nonstop every day is just over 574 days of nonstop in game play time to farm the fragments for arcane artifact.

So, yes, technically free-to-play has the opportunity to craft these artifacts from purely farming, but somebody somewhere needs to come to the realization that players don't get excited for 1.5 years required to grind for 1 single item.

boohgey
05-18-2017, 02:41 PM
I don't have the dollars to win zzzzz ...pay to win update ..keep it up team

«bobobobooooooohgeeey»

Infectivity
05-18-2017, 03:06 PM
This is getting out of hand

Mezderak
05-18-2017, 03:19 PM
nice nice nice awesome 👍😃

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crudmudgeon
05-18-2017, 03:27 PM
...........

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Archerios
05-18-2017, 03:28 PM
The map is too hard for my end game mage.

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leoakre
05-18-2017, 06:46 PM
Okay, because I don't mind spending the platinum for the first go around, and because I didn't have the time to even try to begin (let alone complete) one of the token quests yet, I went ahead and bought the 25 platinum entrance fee pass to go solo through the new 'artifact' map to see what goodies I could get for my special expensive platinum fee...

Well ...

Well ...

I can definitely say that I will NOT be wasting 25 platinum on that again!! Let me list what I looted for my special entrance fee:
- damaged mind jewel
- cracked finesse jewel
- small incense fragment
- cracked lightning jewel
- a rusty helmet (nope, not even a shiny one)
- a splintered stick (...)
- 50 experience (for what, I'm not sure)
- a rusty sword
- a rusty helmet (another one, or could be the same one recycled cuz who knows at this point)
- oh wait....that's it @@

Okay, well.... can only say that my very first impression of this is not so good, and first impressions are important. This doesn't mean that there might be (hopefully) some tweaks to the loot because as it stands now, 25 platinum is a wee bit much to pay for splintered sticks and rusty helmets .... not even looting one usable item towards the crafting of these supposedly amazing artifacts.

For such an entrance fee as 25 platinum, players who choose to pay should at least get something that counts toward the crafting of the artifacts!

Olympus
05-18-2017, 07:02 PM
So I think artifacts look absolutely awesome and they have the potential to be something great not just for players who pay, but also those who don't. BUT CURRENTLY, the amount of time and/or money required to aquire the arcane artifact is just absolutely outrageous. Why? Heres the calculations:

You earn 1 fragment per run. You require 620 runes to make an arcane artifact. You need 25 fragments to make a rune. 620 x 25 = 15500 fragments.

Lets say that hypothetically, someone averages 8 runs a day, this means that it would take 5.3 YEARS in order to farm 15500 fragments. Now is AL even going to exist in 5.3 years? Idk, but who wants to take the risk of actually farming for that?? So the other option is to PAY.

If you require 620 runes, and 50 runes costs 2500 plat, then it would cost 31000 plat (or 12.4 purchases of these 2500 plat packs) in order to create an arcane artifact.

As a New Zealander, I'm not sure what the US price is for plat, but its $130 NZ for 1700 plat for me. This means i would need to make 18.2 purchases of 1700 plat. I multiply that number of purchases by the cost of 1700 plat in NZ (18.2 x $130) which = $2370 NZD. FYI that converts to $1640 USD.

So its either farm 8 fragments a day for 5.3 years or pay a spend your life savings to get this fragment.

Im fairly sure my calculations are accurate, however I pray I'm not because otherwise there's no way I'm ever getting this lol

Killfreeak
05-18-2017, 07:07 PM
So I think artifacts look absolutely awesome and they have the potential to be something great not just for players who pay, but also those who don't. BUT CURRENTLY, the amount of time and/or money required to aquire the arcane artifact is just absolutely outrageous. Why? Heres the calculations:

You earn 1 fragment per run. You require 620 runes to make an arcane artifact. You need 25 fragments to make a rune. 620 x 25 = 15500 fragments.

Lets say that hypothetically, someone averages 8 runs a day, this means that it would take 5.3 YEARS in order to farm 15500 fragments. Now is AL even going to exist in 5.3 years? Idk, but who wants to take the risk of actually farming for that?? So the other option is to PAY.

If you require 620 runes, and 50 runes costs 2500 plat, then it would cost 31000 plat (or 12.4 purchases of these 2500 plat packs) in order to create an arcane artifact.

As a New Zealander, I'm not sure what the US price is for plat, but its $130 NZ for 1700 plat for me. This means i would need to make 18.2 purchases of 1700 plat. I multiply that number of purchases by the cost of 1700 plat in NZ (18.2 x $130) which = $2370 NZD. FYI that converts to $1640 USD.

So its either farm 8 fragments a day for 5.3 years or pay a spend your life savings to get this fragment.

Im fairly sure my calculations are accurate, however I pray I'm not because otherwise there's no way I'm ever getting this lol

Cactus
05-18-2017, 07:35 PM
Epic Sagacity requirement should be Rare Sagacity.

Dieadeath
05-18-2017, 07:39 PM
Ty g :) I don't mind grinding as do many people in Arlour.

deepcy
05-18-2017, 08:07 PM
Nerf mobs pls . Rogue & Warrior RIP

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thekragle
05-19-2017, 01:29 AM
Its really simple. This was a great idea, but the cost and work needed vs. the rewards is too far apart. 5 plat makes more sense. Maus 6 makes you grind hard but the reward is ALWAYS worth it.
This should be the same way especially if you pay plat. There just needs to be more balance. Challenge must also be fun for the player, not frustrating.

JMPJJP
05-19-2017, 02:04 AM
The map is too hard for me XD spamming potions doesn't work. I guess I got to spend my time to another game

Archerios
05-19-2017, 04:13 AM
Change the daily quest.Kill 50 bosses is the weekly quest and you want me to kill 25 bosses daily?There is a lot more option for the quest like kill all bosses in certain area or kill certain bosses and loot quest item from it or make it 10 instead of 25.Just my opinion.

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Sheentaro
05-19-2017, 04:16 AM
Imo , these artifacts definitely deserve a buff

the time , effort and money doesnt compensate.

☆[•Kinda sad but hella rad•]☆

Slamdk
05-19-2017, 04:18 AM
Really hope you will fix this fast.
Kozner quest is Always available but you can't take it. better make something like ministrel where it says "come back in ..." so we can understand better when we can take it and when not.
Made my first run with War (level 61). 3 lives lost, 90+ mana potion used, 50+ health potion (and i use heal, juggernaut, rally cry and pick up every planar pendant cristal), 3 pets consumed, total time something like 40 minutes.
Better make it party open or change the level difficult.
And all the gain was 1 magma fragment.

You need 15.500 fragment (half magma and half victus) to craft an arcane artifact. if i need 15.500 runs in this map and it takes 40min each i'll spend something like 10.300 hours in this map.
The same time spent in mausoleum will let me buy the artifact from auc and leave me with at least other 500m gold (plus all drops i can find in maps). I really think this map will need some adjustement...

Aduleeee
05-19-2017, 05:05 AM
Nice bro xd

PatD
05-19-2017, 07:52 AM
Thanks for this great update STS! i love the idea of that solo map, but what people have to understand is that this is a very long term quest, u cant have the arcane in a cpl of day, u have to do this like a daily quest and at some points it will pay out!!
what make me very happy is that my voice set bonus is working in the new map!!! so for all the voice set hater i say HAHAHA! i knew it was a good investment!! Firstly bcz STS implement the 10k gold chest in Somberholt and now because we can use the set in the new map!!!(So i think the set will keep its value for a while even after new lvl cap) Thanks very much for that!! But on a side note maybe u should lower the plat price for entering the map!! overall very happy with the update!! THX!

Isian
05-19-2017, 08:56 AM
Can sts please consider to make the Hourly quest visible in the repeatable quest section when the player is not in the Forgotten ruins? Hard to know whether the quest is ready unless enter there and check.

Abuze
05-19-2017, 09:07 AM
Would be better if devs not only tested things more before releasing but also did LIVE streamings of the newly released content. This way they could see for their selves if everything works as intended. Also if they decide to do LIVE streams don't use maxed out gear only, sure it's good to use this for promoting the extra benefits of having that maxed out gear but also show the average player with average gear that it's do able without out farming deaths.

leslietheone
05-19-2017, 12:49 PM
Can sts please consider to make the Hourly quest visible in the repeatable quest section when the player is not in the Forgotten ruins? Hard to know whether the quest is ready unless enter there and check.

if you go in menu->avatar->elixir
you can see that you have a elixir that says "krozner is busy!"
161306

Azemeazed
05-19-2017, 01:13 PM
Good update, i like when things are hard in game and when some items are really rare.
Only thing should be changed imo is to lower monsters health if my bros warriors are playing it couse its not fair :)

Drewacez
05-19-2017, 02:40 PM
Things they did right
1 artifact is useful and will help in pve and pvp
2 Not easily obtained which means prices wont drop for a long time for harder to get relics
3 dailys and hourlys to get tokens to access new map will ensure everyone has fair shot (not counting plat users)
4 mages in new map dont curse.
What I think is wrong
1 Map will prove to be difficult for average geared players
2 25 boss daily takes too long to complete, not everyone has that free time
3 same with 1000 mobs it requires speed set basically
4 takes way too may runes to craft artifact. To get arcane artifact would take 15000 runs plus. We have lives outside of al you know.

Korabiv
05-19-2017, 02:53 PM
This is how the devs tested this new map haha (real screen shot, no editing). All jokes aside would love to see this vanity come around this winter.161307

Richardhakker
05-19-2017, 02:54 PM
I agree with your last "what i think is wrong" opinion
It takes you 15500 frags to craft an arcane artifact and an average hardcore player gets 10 tokens a day
So if my math is correct it will take 1550 days thats over 4 years and idk why they wanna take it that long
1000 frags sounds reasonable that will take atleast 100 days for solo players

blessedsoundz
05-19-2017, 03:43 PM
I think its ok update ... soloed a few maps and got it done after a few tries ...a lot of mobs stacked in 1 area isn't good for a pt of 1 imo...in map u encounter adjoining paths with mobs at each corner so as u approach and try to pull 2 mob ..all converge ( like 40 mob) ...not a good thing but challenging (really challenging) ...I do understand its permanent fix and I wouldn't want to deduct quest or anything since I don't agree it takes that long to complete even without ss... kt4 works for both quests and I don't think its bug since low lvls are suppose to b able to run maps too and even a lvl 10 can solo kt4 in a min or 2) ... so my suggestions would b ...
1. make content more clear when releasing ( to this point I still don't understand how to get victus frags except from store and I'm hopin its not only plat purchase )
2. quit reconditioning bosses and gears and put in some actual work on 'NEW' content ( this should've been #1 but don't get hung up on timin of points :D )
3. boss should drop something other than just frags and ankh and occasional artefact ( what about eggs/chest/gear/lixes/gold even ... u already have to soloa map for about 10 mins and all u get is 1 frag when u need thousands... idk where u get ur ideas and what ur intentions are for/when droppin new content but it doesn't seem as tho u put much thought into players runnin these maps over time )
4. put a tr or something at end of a few paths instead of fighting thru that maze of mobs and all the dead ends before u actually find correct path ( something...anything other thatn 1000 dead ends before boss that drops just a frag)
5. rethink the plat cost per entry as was said previously (25 plat for 1 frag or ankh or both or artifact just isn't worth it ...that's 5 runs in m5-6 where in just 1 run if u drop even a legend gear u got more profit than ruins for a yr ...really not worth it imo)

p.s Respect the play

Energizeric
05-20-2017, 03:48 AM
As I said in my earlier post, I'd love to run this dungeon with my level 10 sorcerer. But how do I get the tokens with my level 10 sorcerer? I cannot enter Glintstone, Underhul or Mausolem, so how can I do the quests? I cannot even enter Kraken Tombs.

loyti
05-20-2017, 04:07 AM
As I said in my earlier post, I'd love to run this dungeon with my level 10 sorcerer. But how do I get the tokens with my level 10 sorcerer? I cannot enter Glintstone, Underhul or Mausolem, so how can I do the quests? I cannot even enter Kraken Tombs.

You hit it bro.

Basing on the player's feedback, i may assume the devs don't really have the full testing before implementing this. Just too many flaws. 1. the map requirement for boss kills and minion, 2. Solo in Boss when mobs are extremely hard, 3. Drops of Magna and Victus Rune (Victus for Level 1-30 only, Magna for Levl 31-61 only) 4. 25 Plat to enter Portal, 5. No awesome loot on killing boss.

I hope they will fix this the soonest possible time.

Horgs
05-20-2017, 09:02 AM
do the quests.. there are 2 quests for getting the entrance tokens. one of them appears every hour.

nightmaresmoke
05-20-2017, 01:41 PM
Can the mob counter for 1k mob quest can be in sync it's counts with so much delay i know its about server and stuff but anyway is it possible to make it sync more faster ?

"An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, evil for evil"

Azemeazed
05-20-2017, 04:57 PM
I have an idea, lets make aps common artifact, rare, epic, etc. This would put some juice in farmers engines.
Im not joking, i would love to see ap like oldie 10k flags one that seemed so out of reach in the old days.

Midgard_papa
05-20-2017, 06:09 PM
As I said in my earlier post, I'd love to run this dungeon with my level 10 sorcerer. But how do I get the tokens with my level 10 sorcerer? I cannot enter Glintstone, Underhul or Mausolem, so how can I do the quests? I cannot even enter Kraken Tombs.
Hauntlet[emoji1]

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Ruthless.Clan
05-20-2017, 09:55 PM
Tokens disappear upon gaining access to the map.. Had 4 tokens from daily & hourly quest, went to enter & it said only 1 token available.

A Syed Zahid
05-21-2017, 08:51 AM
to make it up for all the salt on this thread, treat them with love G! give them 2x victus/magna drop. This will nullifies the 15500 run/4year for an arcane artifact theory ;)

Kujimasun
05-21-2017, 10:52 AM
As I said in my earlier post, I'd love to run this dungeon with my level 10 sorcerer. But how do I get the tokens with my level 10 sorcerer? I cannot enter Glintstone, Underhul or Mausolem, so how can I do the quests? I cannot even enter Kraken Tombs.
This content is really meant for endgame, although there are different level artifacts.

By making sure only certain maps will give credit it also keeps the value of the item up because the chance of the market being flooded is VERY small.

The way this was setup was not a mistake. While I don't agree with the 15500 runs tally, I understand this is something to work towards.

I would not count on Plat buyers rushing this either. If the estimate above is correct that would equate to about $4000 dollars.


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leoakre
05-21-2017, 09:08 PM
Let me get this straight...

All the players who play at both endgame and twink levels not only will be able to farm AND gear their toons with game-changing items, but they also get to profit from selling to players who only play at either the endgame or twink level, and not both levels ?!

So, after all this hoopla of making game-changing items farmable, now they aren't? We have to rely on a whole separate community of players to be able to keep competing at the level we've always competed?

(Tip: make it short or Justg's Moderator Bot will get you!)

leoakre
05-22-2017, 04:20 AM
This is what am about to comment...nailed it

«bobobobooooooohgeeey»

Nah! Cuz players who do use platinum are quickly realizing there's SOOOO MUCH MORE one can do with 25 platinum than loot 5 fragments (auto-loot with the paid entry)... maybe 6 fragments (one from the run) if you're not me (cuz that's all I ever get xD ) !!!

Seriously ... SO MUCH MORE... maybe go buy more platinum to create just one arcane artifact for thousands of dollars! No way...not me!!

(Sorry, Joebembo said, "this is going to be a problem for non-platinum users")

Yes
05-22-2017, 06:33 AM
Please make the diff name for inside the portal and outside. !!

Joebembo
05-22-2017, 02:28 PM
Nah! Cuz players who do use platinum are quickly realizing there's SOOOO MUCH MORE one can do with 25 platinum than loot 5 fragments (auto-loot with the paid entry)... maybe 6 fragments (one from the run) if you're not me (cuz that's all I ever get xD ) !!!

Seriously ... SO MUCH MORE... maybe go buy more platinum to create just one arcane artifact for thousands of dollars! No way...not me!!

(Sorry, Joebembo said, "this is going to be a problem for non-platinum users")
Tbh i thought it would be unfair between plat users and non plat players. But now it feels like a waste, cause the map gives 1 fragment for ur effort and u gotta wait like 1 hour before u can repeat that process. Imo, any player is better of farming maus/graveyard /sg...

Bembo✌

xiziviqi
05-23-2017, 05:32 AM
Why I never get victus rune?where place drop victus rune?

Bigbabysweets
05-23-2017, 06:55 AM
I never drop them either victus frags

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Abuze
05-23-2017, 07:21 AM
Why I never get victus rune?where place drop victus rune?

Supposed victus only drops at lvl 1-29 (a dev said lv30 too but some didn't loot victus frags there).

Moekill
05-23-2017, 10:58 AM
Question, why am I not gaining kills in ANY stage? Killing many and gaining none for it.

PatD
05-23-2017, 11:58 AM
i was very enthusiastic at first but when i realized that only lvl1-30 could drop the victus fragment, then my fun as blow big time!! and since the update i notice a lot of deception from many players, please make both kind of fragment droppable by all level and increase the amount of fragment per run! (maybe 1-5 fragment) thank you!

Tutie
05-23-2017, 07:52 PM
Hi Chad,

Just wondering when you are going to read my email about my account. I'd really like to play soon. Thanks!

Danielxms
05-24-2017, 12:37 AM
Thanks, very good post :)

eis
05-24-2017, 02:33 PM
Good job, Interest in the game appeared

onetwothree
05-25-2017, 11:35 PM
Yess finally ////

Loot
05-26-2017, 07:16 AM
Can you guys update the story line? Because its short so this games best area to have fun in is only PVP

Serancha
05-29-2017, 11:42 AM
You get 3 free entrances per day. 1 free entrance per hour. This is with the quests. That is a maximum of 27 entrance tokens per day assuming a player plays 24/7.
Each boss you kill guarantees you 1 fragment as far as I've been able to tell. So this is a maximum of 27 fragments per day.
Looking at the crafting table, it requires 10+20+40+80+160 of each rune to upgrade to arcane.
Summing that together, we get 310 of each rune, or 620 runes in total to upgrade to arcane artifact.
It requires 25 fragments to purchase 1 rune.
So, 620 runes * 25 fragments each rune = 15,500 fragments total to upgrade to arcane.
15,500 fragments at a rate of at most 27 per day assuming playing nonstop every day is just over 574 days of nonstop in game play time to farm the fragments for arcane artifact.

So, yes, technically free-to-play has the opportunity to craft these artifacts from purely farming, but somebody somewhere needs to come to the realization that players don't get excited for 1.5 years required to grind for 1 single item.


Arcane Legends was originally marketed as a pick-up-and-play game for mobile players. A game where you could do a quick run or two while waiting at a bus stop, or on your lunch break at work. A few seasons ago, it was changed so that running the new maps REQUIRED you to be in a party - even for the normal level maps. This completely negates the entire "casual" model and led to a lot of frustration. When I could no longer solo the current season's maps, that was the end of it for me, and is why so many of the season 1-4 players are no longer in game.

Adding to that, the extremely low drop rates and hundreds of hours grinding just to acquire a single item, made the game both no longer fun and (for many) no longer worth playing. A lot of the original players were adults with jobs and families who don't have 40-80 hours a week to play a game, let alone wait around for an hour (or more) each time to get a party together that is sufficiently skilled to do any proper farming.

I realize everything changes over time, but situations like this one are so far from the original concept of the game that it's not the same entity anymore, and that is sad.

Spell
05-30-2017, 11:18 AM
Arcane Legends was originally marketed as a pick-up-and-play game for mobile players. A game where you could do a quick run or two while waiting at a bus stop, or on your lunch break at work. A few seasons ago, it was changed so that running the new maps REQUIRED you to be in a party - even for the normal level maps. This completely negates the entire "casual" model and led to a lot of frustration. When I could no longer solo the current season's maps, that was the end of it for me, and is why so many of the season 1-4 players are no longer in game.

Adding to that, the extremely low drop rates and hundreds of hours grinding just to acquire a single item, made the game both no longer fun and (for many) no longer worth playing. A lot of the original players were adults with jobs and families who don't have 40-80 hours a week to play a game, let alone wait around for an hour (or more) each time to get a party together that is sufficiently skilled to do any proper farming.

I realize everything changes over time, but situations like this one are so far from the original concept of the game that it's not the same entity anymore, and that is sad.


Very welll said +1

nightmaresmoke
05-30-2017, 12:48 PM
Any preview for elondrian event?

"An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, evil for evil"

octavos
05-30-2017, 12:53 PM
Arcane Legends was originally marketed as a pick-up-and-play game for mobile players. A game where you could do a quick run or two while waiting at a bus stop, or on your lunch break at work. A few seasons ago, it was changed so that running the new maps REQUIRED you to be in a party - even for the normal level maps. This completely negates the entire "casual" model and led to a lot of frustration. When I could no longer solo the current season's maps, that was the end of it for me, and is why so many of the season 1-4 players are no longer in game.

Adding to that, the extremely low drop rates and hundreds of hours grinding just to acquire a single item, made the game both no longer fun and (for many) no longer worth playing. A lot of the original players were adults with jobs and families who don't have 40-80 hours a week to play a game, let alone wait around for an hour (or more) each time to get a party together that is sufficiently skilled to do any proper farming.

I realize everything changes over time, but situations like this one are so far from the original concept of the game that it's not the same entity anymore, and that is sad.

I just logged in to say yes to this.

Kakashis
05-30-2017, 03:16 PM
Arcane Legends was originally marketed as a pick-up-and-play game for mobile players. A game where you could do a quick run or two while waiting at a bus stop, or on your lunch break at work. A few seasons ago, it was changed so that running the new maps REQUIRED you to be in a party - even for the normal level maps. This completely negates the entire "casual" model and led to a lot of frustration. When I could no longer solo the current season's maps, that was the end of it for me, and is why so many of the season 1-4 players are no longer in game.

Adding to that, the extremely low drop rates and hundreds of hours grinding just to acquire a single item, made the game both no longer fun and (for many) no longer worth playing. A lot of the original players were adults with jobs and families who don't have 40-80 hours a week to play a game, let alone wait around for an hour (or more) each time to get a party together that is sufficiently skilled to do any proper farming.

I realize everything changes over time, but situations like this one are so far from the original concept of the game that it's not the same entity anymore, and that is sad.

I will also add that even after looting the arcane artifact, other than the vanity orb effect, essentially your stats climbs to as if you had a voice set out of the mauso area. It's a nice huff, but not the end all ultra op as it used to be. You'll hit a little harder, still die in pve, and ultimately its just another item in the game. I look forward to owning it one day, but won't kill myself over getting it.

Fearrr
05-31-2017, 12:43 PM
Nice update! Perfect time to comeback to AL ^_^