My opinions on Artifact farming

[leoakre]

In short....

All the players who play BOTH twink AND endgame can farm ALL the ingredients for crafting this new complete game-changing item PLUS profit from selling to players who ONLY play at one level!!

How is this a good thing?

What happened to making such game-changing items farmable to give everyone a chance at items that make or break whether a player can adequately compete in this game?

I think all the ingredients for such an item should be farmable by BOTH Engamers AND Twinks.

[Ydra]

Make a twink

[leoakre]

Make a twink

No thanks...not my point but appreciate the reply!

[codered]

I tried make a twink, i end up "no thanks ill stick to my endgame" ,, :3
Make it available for both in end game, maybe we need 2 different entry token to get victus in endgame too, token for artjfact farm and victus farm, we choose which item we want to farm, twink has no choice but farming victus, just my thought

[Shocan]

Everyone can make twink with story tokens.

[Suentous PO]

Agreed Leoakre.
All types should drop to any level.

I made a 30 Mage, died a lot, then used 2 elixirs and 20ish min latter received a magnar.
I'd rather brush my teeth with tinfoil than to farm on twinks.

[leoakre]

Everyone can make twink with story tokens.

Some people don't enjoy nor want to twink, just as others don't enjoy endgame nor want to play endgame. The crafting ingredients should be available for both communities to farm and craft. Again, not my point but thank you for the reply.

[leoakre]

I tried make a twink, i end up "no thanks ill stick to my endgame" ,, :3
Make it available for both in end game, maybe we need 2 different entry token to get victus in endgame too, token for artjfact farm and victus farm, we choose which item we want to farm, twink has no choice but farming victus, just my thought

Not a bad idea at all. Thank you for the constructive suggestion!

[Zeus]

The solution is simple. Either drop fragments for both levels, or have only one type of rune for artifact 10-30 (forget rune name) &I have one type of rune for artifact (30-61).

[Faliziaga]

I enjoy playing on my lv 16 rogue with haste set and Arcane daggers, it's much fun, the proc is awesome.

[slaaayerrr]

what the problem, buy it by plat, rich

[creeepycreeepy]

what the problem, buy it by plat, rich
+1 to this, its clearly the best idea yet.

[Shocan]

Some people don't enjoy nor want to twink, just as others don't enjoy endgame nor want to play endgame. The crafting ingredients should be available for both communities to farm and craft. Again, not my point but thank you for the reply.

Well that kinda sounds like their problem now doesn't it! Lol just calm down and farm gold to buy the victuses!

[alxe]

i do agree that all ingredients should be farmable by all levels, i mean i didnt bother with artifacts becuase i dont wanna spend gold on making a proper twink to farm or buy the runes i cant farm.

[Blazerland]

In short....

All the players who play BOTH twink AND endgame can farm ALL the ingredients for crafting this new complete game-changing item PLUS profit from selling to players who ONLY play at one level!!

How is this a good thing?

What happened to making such game-changing items farmable to give everyone a chance at items that make or break whether a player can adequately compete in this game?

All the ingredients for such an item should be farmable by BOTH Engamers AND Twinks.

both fragments should drop in all levels. its easy to make another toon but to gear it up in order to survive the new map kinda costly too plus running multiple toons just to farm for the materials is just a lil too much.

[Avaree]

both fragments should drop in all levels. its easy to make another toon but to gear it up in order to survive the new map kinda costly too plus running multiple toons just to farm for the materials is just a lil too much.
^^^ this ^^^

[Energizeric]

I don't see a problem with the current system. Finally there is actually something worth farming for with a twink.

Yes, it's true the prices for the victus rune is more than manga, but that is a temporary thing until more twinks start farming these.

I'll say this once again, but there is no need to farm every item you want. Just like in real life, when you want a steak I doubt many of you decide to start raising cattle. You probably leave that to someone else to do and just buy your steak. We all work jobs doing specific things, and then we use our earned money to buy the other items we need in life. That is how an economy functions, and AL should be no different. Find something you like to farm, then spend your time on that, sell your loot, and then buy the items you need.

[Spell]

I don't see a problem with the current system. Finally there is actually something worth farming for with a twink.

Yes, it's true the prices for the victus rune is more than manga, but that is a temporary thing until more twinks start farming these.

I'll say this once again, but there is no need to farm every item you want. Just like in real life, when you want a steak I doubt many of you decide to start raising cattle. You probably leave that to someone else to do and just buy your steak. We all work jobs doing specific things, and then we use our earned money to buy the other items we need in life. That is how an economy functions, and AL should be no different. Find something you like to farm, then spend your time on that, sell your loot, and then buy the items you need.

Now i want a steak! Huhu. Pass the A1 plz xp

[lissil]

I don't see a problem with the current system. Finally there is actually something worth farming for with a twink.

Yes, it's true the prices for the victus rune is more than manga, but that is a temporary thing until more twinks start farming these.

I'll say this once again, but there is no need to farm every item you want. Just like in real life, when you want a steak I doubt many of you decide to start raising cattle. You probably leave that to someone else to do and just buy your steak. We all work jobs doing specific things, and then we use our earned money to buy the other items we need in life. That is how an economy functions, and AL should be no different. Find something you like to farm, then spend your time on that, sell your loot, and then buy the items you need.

I don't know about your twink friends, but my twink friends made twinks to play PvP "all the time" and own that bracket. I doubt a lot of twinks will farm it. Twinks will use lower tier artifacts as well, hence, if they get the best tier artifact for their level bracket, even less twinks will farm it. The huge imbalance between the magna and victus supply is the problem.

Using your steak reference, sure if you want steak, you would probably buy instead of raising cattle on their own. But you could also raise it if you want. However, on runes, and endgame toon is denied that choice. You cannot farm it on that endgame toon. You would have to make another lower level toon, gear it up and farm. No offense, but it's like telling people go make younger versions of yourself to raise cattle, if you get what I mean.

Also, considering the amount of both runes needed to craft per artifact tier, I doubt that the prices on both runes will be close to equal anytime soon. What is asked is for everything to be available to all. That way there would be a better balance of supply on both runes. If not, at least decrease the amount of victus runes needed for crafting the artifact. We are not saying we will farm everything we need by ourselves, we are just asking to have the option to farm it.

[leoakre]

Omigosh Justg,

How many times are you going to reword my title?! xD

[leoakre]

I don't see a problem with the current system. Finally there is actually something worth farming for with a twink.

Yes, it's true the prices for the victus rune is more than manga, but that is a temporary thing until more twinks start farming these.

I'll say this once again, but there is no need to farm every item you want. Just like in real life, when you want a steak I doubt many of you decide to start raising cattle. You probably leave that to someone else to do and just buy your steak. We all work jobs doing specific things, and then we use our earned money to buy the other items we need in life. That is how an economy functions, and AL should be no different. Find something you like to farm, then spend your time on that, sell your loot, and then buy the items you need.

You can still farm for it as a twink, it would just be nice for all levels to be able to farm the ingredients after all the big hoopla everyone made out of being able to farm game-changing items that are used to gear a very competitive character. Now, farming has done a complete U-turn and we're back to not being able to farm the ingredients we need for the toon we play.

[lissil]

The solution is simple. Either drop fragments for both levels, or have only one type of rune for artifact 10-30 (forget rune name) &I have one type of rune for artifact (30-61).


+1 if they don't intend to make the victus drops available to end gamers.

[Suentous PO]

I don't see a problem with the current system. Finally there is actually something worth farming for with a twink.
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The problem is twofold as I see it, number one I don't want to spend my time split last I checked guild rankings go (partially) by how long you are playing, therefore my guild suffers because I have to farm at lower levels. That's beside the point that it isn't effective, it's a gold sink in most cases, The mobs are tougher than the boss, and in some cases the correct runes do not drop to the levels that we've been told they should. To people saying just farm the gold and buy it - that goes to show you that this is not set up correctly if I have to bypass what they intended which was for me to farm on lower levels

[Azemeazed]

I wouldnt change anything in artifact system, not gona say its perfect couse nothing is in this world but its close to that.
There is finally gonna be use of all those items we dropped in previous seasons, especially now when noone pvps on twinks.
Also ppl cry couse "you need 4 years to get arc arti". Its also good now you finally have hard goal in game and in meantime enjoy you common, epic later on legendary and myth arty... ofcourse there will be double drop events so save tokens, also you can buy runes just farm mausoleum if you dont like farming runes or think you can farm more there (like many of my friends do, not me thoe couse lil bored of maus and doing break and token farm came as refreahment).

One suggestion thoe, make aps for killing ruins boss and mobs, also aps for each rarity artifact pls. To make it more fun.

[Energizeric]

The problem is twofold as I see it, number one I don't want to spend my time split last I checked guild rankings go (partially) by how long you are playing, therefore my guild suffers because I have to farm at lower levels. That's beside the point that it isn't effective, it's a gold sink in most cases, The mobs are tougher than the boss, and in some cases the correct runes do not drop to the levels that we've been told they should. To people saying just farm the gold and buy it - that goes to show you that this is not set up correctly if I have to bypass what they intended which was for me to farm on lower levels

I've been farming with my level 10 sorcerer, and I've gotten victus every single time (I think I now have about 15 of them). Also, the dungeon is super easy for me. I will admit that my level 10 sorcerer is very well equipped, but running that dungeon solo is easier (and faster) for me with my level 10 sorcerer than at endgame with a full party.

[Justg]

Hopefully this will address some of the issues: http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?396811-Preview-5-24-17-Artifact-Enhancements-new-Heroics-Jewel-Elixir-Sale

[Suentous PO]

Hopefully this will address some of the issues: http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?396811-Preview-5-24-17-Artifact-Enhancements-new-Heroics-Jewel-Elixir-Sale

Please just allow both types to drop to any level!

[Fyrce]

I am enjoying farming victi. Let me have my fun!

[worshiped]

Get what your saying completely and you should try a twink its a whole different experience!

[creeepycreeepy]

Get what your saying completely and you should try a twink its a whole different experience!
Invest 15m into a twink so you can grind out victis fragments, definitely sounds fun and not rage inducing at all.

[Suentous PO]

Invest 15m into a twink so you can grind out victis fragments, definitely sounds fun and not rage inducing at all.

Don't forget the cost of ankhs and how much you could have earned if you had spent that time on endgame
Fun!

[Azemeazed]

Oh 15m couse you need maria pet so you can kill boss in 14s 779ms? Instead in 15s? And to switch to glowstick on normal monsters to give you cool green protection?
Nah sou can have uber char lvl 15 for 1,3m and walk trough ruins like hot knife trough butter.

[Suentous PO]

Oh 15m couse you need maria pet so you can kill boss in 14s 779ms? Instead in 15s? And to switch to glowstick on normal monsters to give you cool green protection?
Nah sou can have uber char lvl 15 for 1,3m and walk trough ruins like hot knife trough butter.

Even if it were only 1.3 million that is an amount of gold I don't want to spend. Then, I have to make that money back up to get back to where I started, And it's slightly more difficult to do because my time is split between trying to farm on a Twink and endgame.
No ty

[Fyrce]

Um, what? It's free. Make twink 4 years ago, do events, get free pets, free equips, free pots, free ankhs, etc. Keep till this event.

Viola! I is time-travelling genius!

[creeepycreeepy]

Oh 15m couse you need maria pet so you can kill boss in 14s 779ms? Instead in 15s? And to switch to glowstick on normal monsters to give you cool green protection?
Nah sou can have uber char lvl 15 for 1,3m and walk trough ruins like hot knife trough butter.
Actually it took me 22 seconds.

[Zylx]

I see this as a fresh and new community-driven method of farming. I view it as a means to encourage trading between twinks and endgamers, essentially giving everyone something to farm for, which is as intended. If both of these ingredients were farmable across all levels, then their value would go down even faster.

Endgamers complaining about not being able to farm something is trivial considering everyone else has always had the short end of the stick in regards to farming.

[worshiped]

Where do you even get 15m from decent gear is not that expensive, and if you want to play a game you play for competitiveness, some people like twink others don't its your opinion i would highly recommend trying it though.

[creeepycreeepy]

Where do you even get 15m from decent gear is not that expensive, and if you want to play a game you play for competitiveness, some people like twink others don't its your opinion i would highly recommend trying it though.
Avarice belt is 15m easy sir.

[Azemeazed]

Avarice belt is 15m easy sir.

Dont forget undying orb...
Orb + avaric belt + speed set + hero pet slotted with glow and maria... full para lvl 10-15 armors and weapon arcame lvl 16. Also vanities those ice medusas etc another 100m...
Oh and 100 ankhs in case skretch kills you in wt4.

[creeepycreeepy]

Dont forget undying orb...
Orb + avaric belt + speed set + hero pet slotted with glow and maria... full para lvl 10-15 armors and weapon arcame lvl 16. Also vanities those ice medusas etc another 100m...
Oh and 100 ankhs in case skretch kills you in wt4.
You read my mind sir. Cant be a proper op twink without a lb vanity set.

[leoakre]

I see this as a fresh and new community-driven method of farming. I view it as a means to encourage trading between twinks and endgamers, essentially giving everyone something to farm for, which is as intended. If both of these ingredients were farmable across all levels, then their value would go down even faster.

Endgamers complaining about not being able to farm something is trivial considering everyone else has always had the short end of the stick in regards to farming.

You have a twink ?

xD

[creeepycreeepy]

You have a twink ?

xD
Bruh he hasn't even endgamed since before shuyal i believe he said a whiles back sir and i think hes retired even dude, hope this helps man.