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Hercules
06-23-2017, 07:57 PM
What do you think about this event in a future (The idea is to help the new users :D)

If you kill Light-Zavier You could receive:

- 100 Rank points chest
- 150 Rank points chest
- 300 Rank points chest
- 600 Rank points chest
- 1000 Rank points chest
- 2000 Rank points chest
- 5000 Rank points chest

Ckash
06-23-2017, 08:52 PM
Yeah maybe a good idea... a year from now.

Chocolaty
06-23-2017, 10:03 PM
"Wait's for Eggzavier comments below"

Bmlty
06-23-2017, 11:27 PM
"Wait's for Eggzavier comments below"
Bring back eggsavier!


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Teases
06-24-2017, 01:03 AM
"Wait's for Eggzavier comments below"

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Fredystern
06-24-2017, 01:56 AM
What do you think about this event in a future (The idea is to help the new users :D)

If you kill Light-Zavier You could receive:

- 100 Rank points chest
- 150 Rank points chest
- 300 Rank points chest
- 600 Rank points chest
- 1000 Rank points chest
- 2000 Rank points chest
- 5000 Rank points chest

Not bad :)
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Xxkayakxx
06-24-2017, 04:02 AM
let's see expansion :) maybe with new cap rank points will be easier to get.
But generally speaking could be a good idea for whatever event :)

runagain
06-24-2017, 07:53 AM
Nah -1.. that's even worse than egg zavier lol, ppl wouldn't do any effort anylonger =)

I mean lmao, if u farm 3-4h that zavier ur already elite Lightbearer rank ... Nah that's a bs zavier

Better start running, less lazyness, more Effort.

Hard work pays off!

Vrazicak
06-24-2017, 08:06 AM
Nah -1.. that's even worse than egg zavier lol, ppl wouldn't do any effort anylonger =)

I mean lmao, if u farm 3-4h that zavier ur already elite Lightbearer rank ... Nah that's a bs zavier

Better start running, less lazyness, more Effort.

Hard work pays off!

It does indeed, but here in game, no life pays off, and not everyone can spend hours and hours daily playing a game

runagain
06-24-2017, 08:15 AM
It does indeed, but here in game, no life pays off, and not everyone can spend hours and hours daily playing a game
Uhm, if u farm one hour a day, you're able to get like 600-1k points An hour.

Since elite Lightbearer is 110k points. It actually only takes u 110 days to reach it which is equal to 3.5months. (it's 1k Daily). Since this expansion lasts for over 8months. You would be able to farm m5-6 for over 3 months atleast.

So nothing with "no life pays off"

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Warriorknown
06-24-2017, 10:20 AM
-1 to this.I recently got to light bearer elite and it took me forever,I put in a lot of work.I don't want to have an event where all my work would have go down the drain and many would get the rank easier.

Teases
06-24-2017, 10:43 AM
-1 to this.I recently got to light bearer elite and it took me forever,I put in a lot of work.I don't want to have an event where all my work would have go down the drain and many would get the rank easier.

So, to rephrase what you said: I don't want other peoples lives to be easier because I put time into it and other people have to put in just as much time even if an x amount of time has already passed and it doesn't really negatively impact me, it's just that no one else can have it easy because I didn't.

That seems selfish. I put a lot of time into leveling up to 61 and only recently hit cap after returning from a two year hiatus but I'm not complaining because they picked now to have an XP chest event. It's a game b, chill.

http://68.media.tumblr.com/151875ca3f0a1d375083a3fa5c4237f3/tumblr_inline_orz8kkJu2H1soapww_250.gif

Warriorknown
06-24-2017, 10:50 AM
Maybe I didn't phrase it properly,I was not trying to come out as selfish.I think the 2x light bears event was enough for all of us to rank up,we don't need this event.

Suentous PO
06-24-2017, 11:15 AM
If anyone can explain these gifs I will pay them
O. o'

eleasah
06-24-2017, 11:50 AM
Sometimes i think no one want work for anything anymore. Sure, the way rank up seems long, but really, is it ever needed let look all pple stupid which fight their way up in hard way? Sorry, i liked double points to make it more easy to rank. But iam against only easy way. Srry, expension last really long. All pple who started this expansion last year could be minimum able to be lightbearer. Enough to reach floor 5. And at this time the last points not really hard to earn.

My opinion

Teases
06-24-2017, 12:01 PM
Sometimes i think no one want work for anything anymore. Sure, the way rank up seems long, but really, is it ever needed let look all pple stupid which fight their way up in hard way? Sorry, i liked double points to make it more easy to rank. But iam against only easy way. Srry, expension last really long. All pple who started this expansion last year could be minimum able to be lightbearer. Enough to reach floor 5. And at this time the last points not really hard to earn.

My opinion

That's a straw man argument. This has nothing to do with peoples' apparent values and character. This is a user-made suggestion about releasing an event similar to Prince Levlar that may or may not happen in the future (and I do have my doubts on it happening). I just don't understand this self-serving idea that others can't get some sort of leg up even in a completely hypothetical not-even-happening event because god-forbid, you, invested your time willingly with no promises of lightbearer points becoming easily available in the future. It's inherently selfish no matter how you phrase it. Parents make strides and work hard so their children can lead better lives than the lives they may have led. So tell me: what is so bad about this event?... or, is the problem entirely egocentric?

Fyrce
06-24-2017, 02:55 PM
The OP suggested points is much too high. 20 of those 5k chests and you're done. Too quick and easy.

Maybe points more like this:
Lightbearer Point Chests, based on rarity levels a la Levlar: 2, 5, 10, 20, 50, 100.

At the higher end, the points really do add to and decrease the amount of time one would spend grinding. At the lower end, it is just an additional bonus and more in line with a 2x event. In addition, if this has to be completed in graveyard and mausoleum and ruins, then players are also accumulating points as they are hunting.

It could also be something that drops in a similar fashion to the 2nd Runes fragments drop. It would have to be rarer than the runes fragments though. Probably a 10th less common than the 2nd rune fragment drop. Dropped this way, it would be an untradeable bonus.

Also this might be something to implement for players coming along now, rather than those who played the current expansion. So a 'nerf' of the current expansion when the new expansion goes in or after some time with the new expansion, to encourage players to populate the mausoleum and graveyard.

You Mad Or Nah
06-24-2017, 09:52 PM
Lazy😃

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saik1993
06-25-2017, 01:15 AM
I agree with runagain.This would be even worse than eggxavier. Just reeks of laziness that's all. No one would ever put in an effort for anything in this game if we have a xavier for everything. Also if you are bored/not interested/ have no time to run mauso why would you need those points anyways. You guys do know that to complete mauso 5 and 6 would anyway take around 30-40min ( and that is with a very good party) right? If you run mauso or graveyard for around 30min daily you would have been lightbearer long ago. -1 to this.

You Mad Or Nah
06-25-2017, 02:05 AM
Also if u wouldve run in those 2x Somberholt points events ( I believe there's was 2 of these events) u wouldve been done if u had taken advantage of it. No need for this -1

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runagain
06-25-2017, 07:02 AM
So, to rephrase what you said: I don't want other peoples lives to be easier because I put time into it and other people have to put in just as much time even if an x amount of time has already passed and it doesn't really negatively impact me, it's just that no one else can have it easy because I didn't.

That seems selfish. I put a lot of time into leveling up to 61 and only recently hit cap after returning from a two year hiatus but I'm not complaining because they picked now to have an XP chest event. It's a game b, chill.

http://68.media.tumblr.com/151875ca3f0a1d375083a3fa5c4237f3/tumblr_inline_orz8kkJu2H1soapww_250.gif
Seems like ur one of those "I sit all day in camp/castle and wait at the lazy zavier events" ;)

It wasn't even selfish what he was saying. He's right!

People ran for over months to get elite Lightbearer, by releasing a bs event like this would be dissapointed asf for many players. Tho if we get next expansion again a ranking system more and more ppl will just wait till a zavier got released.

I'd say less zaviers and more Effort.

Tho I hope the next cap Will be like 200k XP to be lv66 (from 65 to 66)..

Like to Reach lv66 it will take the way from 1 to 65. That would be a cool xp- system. So players won't hit max cap easy, it will take time but it's fun after all

Teases
06-25-2017, 08:11 AM
Seems like ur one of those "I sit all day in camp/castle and wait at the lazy zavier events" ;)

It wasn't even selfish what he was saying. He's right!

People ran for over months to get elite Lightbearer, by releasing a bs event like this would be dissapointed asf for many players. Tho if we get next expansion again a ranking system more and more ppl will just wait till a zavier got released.

I'd say less zaviers and more Effort.

Tho I hope the next cap Will be like 200k XP to be lv66 (from 65 to 66)..

Like to Reach lv66 it will take the way from 1 to 65. That would be a cool xp- system. So players won't hit max cap easy, it will take time but it's fun after all

You see but there it is: people ran for MONTHS to get Elite Lightbearer. If the accessibility of this next expansion relies heavily on your rank in Somberholt, than that's even more time that a (casual) player has to invest before being able to play competitively. It's been a while since Somberholt was released, your "reward" for investing your time was earlier access to content that in no uncertain terms helped your success in-game exponentially compared to players who didn't or couldn't.

I'm not debating the numbers. If the numbers are off, change them. My point is that there were benefits to reaching that rank, and people who have have reaped the rewards. Why should new or returning players have to jump through months of content, since as you said it took months, before they should be allowed to access the same content as you? It's a casual game, so casual players should have the ability to reach the same goals albeit with more time, but this just seems extreme.

It's the same toxic exclusivity that spawns from classism. The haves and the have nots. If you're poor, that's your fault -- right?


Uhm, if u farm one hour a day, you're able to get like 600-1k points An hour.

Since elite Lightbearer is 110k points. It actually only takes u 110 days to reach it which is equal to 3.5months. (it's 1k Daily). Since this expansion lasts for over 8months. You would be able to farm m5-6 for over 3 months atleast.

I've listened to your points, and I try to understand, but you've got to be kidding me if the parallels are lost on you. Anyway, this is just a game, so like I said, chill out and sorry if I hurt any feelings. :love_heart:

runagain
06-25-2017, 08:22 AM
You see but there it is: people ran for MONTHS to get Elite Lightbearer. If the accessibility of this next expansion relies heavily on your rank in Somberholt, than that's even more time that a (casual) player has to invest before being able to play competitively. It's been a while since Somberholt was released, your "reward" for investing your time was earlier access to content that in no uncertain terms helped your success in-game exponentially compared to players who didn't or couldn't.

I'm not debating the numbers. If the numbers are off, change them. My point is that there were benefits to reaching that rank, and people who have have reaped the rewards. Why should new or returning players have to jump through months of content, since as you said it took months, before they should be allowed to access the same content as you? It's a casual game, so casual players should have the ability to reach the same goals albeit with more time, but this just seems extreme.

It's the same toxic exclusivity that spawns from classism. The haves and the have nots. If you're poor, that's your fault -- right?



I've listened to your points, and I try to understand, but you've got to be kidding me if the parallels are lost on you. Anyway, this is just a game, so like I said, chill out and sorry if I hurt any feelings. :love_heart:
Ooo finally someone to discuss with. Nah you won't hurt my feelings :3. Anyway, ofc there are benefits for those who reached it the first, but you can't make a hard system so easy. The double points is imo more than enough. Tho it's easier to reach 110k points than it used to be.

And yeah, for those who return gotta work atm a little bit harder, we all bin thru this way, one faster than the other.

What would a game be without any effort anylonger??

Teases
06-25-2017, 08:37 AM
Ooo finally someone to discuss with. Nah you won't hurt my feelings :3. Anyway, ofc there are benefits for those who reached it the first, but you can't make a hard system so easy. The double points is imo more than enough. Tho it's easier to reach 110k points than it used to be.

And yeah, for those who return gotta work atm a little bit harder, we all bin thru this way, one faster than the other.

What would a game be without any effort anylonger??

Maybe I'm wrong, maybe double points are enough, if double points are ever offered again. It's a huge edge that people should take advantage of, but it does nothing for the new/returning players to come because it won't always be available when they need it.

A game that doesn't take effort isn't rewarding, though more accurately: a game without challenges isn't rewarding. I'm not saying that people should be allowed to coast on twenty 5,000 somberholt point packs and call it a day, but the game level one or 61 is a grind. You grind your way up, and when you get to cap you grind and grind some more. That isn't challenging, that's a chore. You have to admit that you found grinding up to elite lightbearer even the tiniest bit laborious or repetitive.

I just don't see the harm in helping players, veteran and newbies alike, reach that point where the game can feel fulfilling and goals, attainable. There are very real gaps in power, money, success, and level of enjoyment. The top is a plateau, but the climb up is steep. I don't want to topple mountains... I just want to build stairs.

Leonpvp
06-25-2017, 11:50 AM
+1 to this! I think this idea will help the guys who want to go further in game and not leave them hopeless, working for mauso 6 day in and day out

Drone
06-25-2017, 12:12 PM
IF THIS HAPPENS, any future expansions will have less and less people willing to run, they'll just wait for whatever-zavier there is to rank up.

Hercules
06-25-2017, 09:14 PM
WOW guys, Two things:

First: I'm not lazy (I'm lightbearer rank) Why not Elite lightbearer? Because I'm very busy with my life and I don't have many free time as others...
Second: I'm a warr lvl 61 and look! I spent hours and hours trying to level up in the game and I'm not complaining about Prince Levlar Event this year and how easy can level up a lot of players with experience chest... Just because I'm not a selfish person

Jeoraseo
06-25-2017, 09:14 PM
Nice idea 👍 By New users, do you mean those between lvl1 to 40? or what
What about those new players that bought the lvl 57 kit?

Plqgue
06-25-2017, 10:05 PM
Love it +1 I put in the hard work but this would help a lot of player great idea mate