Opinions on new arcane sword vs aegis?

[Midievalmodel]

Hello AL community,

Trying to decide which weapon to buy (new arcane sword vs aegis for warrior). Which one do you warriors prefer for PVP and/or PVE. Some insight about the procs would be wonderful. Thanks.

[Thewolfbull]

I cant comment on pvp but for PvE Glint aegis is still best weapon for tanking.

[Midievalmodel]

I cant comment on pvp but for PvE Glint aegis is still best weapon for tanking.

Thanks for the info. Yes I've been using glint aegis and still do for pve for many seasons now. I am asking about the new arcane sword and new arcane aegis. Mainly interested on how they stack up in pvp. PVE I will always use glint aegis, unfortunately because nothing compares.

[Ardbeg]

Hello AL community,

Trying to decide which weapon to buy (new arcane sword vs aegis for warrior). Which one do you warriors prefer for PVP and/or PVE. Some insight about the procs would be wonderful. Thanks.

The proc of the "Nightmare Guard of Coruscation" is like the proc of the lvl 46 Dragonsword proc: small geysers that have a chance to srun and damage. The proc of the "Terror Blade of Coruscation" is a small vortex, sucking baddies in and damaging them. I think we have seen that in the Planar Blade before. I prefer the Guard as a pve player.

As for the Glinstone Aegis: As much as i love it, it barely damages in the deeper levels of Mausoleum. It is here for the taunt only.

Hit me up in game tomorrow if you need to see it in action.

[Drannak]

I've tried only the arcane aegis lv66 (Not the blade) in mausoleum floors. It's proc is awesome in pve. It does far more damage to mobs in mausoleum than glintstone aegis that I had before. It's a really op weapon and it procs really offen. The only bad thing is that it decreases your strength. I wonder if arcane blade is better than aegis. I don't think so 😊

[Midievalmodel]

The proc of the "Nightmare Guard of Coruscation" is like the proc of the lvl 46 Dragonsword proc: small geysers that have a chance to srun and damage. The proc of the "Terror Blade of Coruscation" is a small vortex, sucking baddies in and damaging them. I think we have seen that in the Planar Blade before. I prefer the Guard as a pve player.

As for the Glinstone Aegis: As much as i love it, it barely damages in the deeper levels of Mausoleum. It is here for the taunt only.

Hit me up in game tomorrow if you need to see it in action.

Amazing! Thanks so much for the pro tip. Greatly appreciate it.

[Midievalmodel]

I've tried only the arcane aegis lv66 (Not the blade) in mausoleum floors. It's proc is awesome in pve. It does far more damage to mobs in mausoleum than glintstone aegis that I had before. It's a really op weapon and it procs really offen. The only bad thing is that it decreases your strength. I wonder if arcane blade is better than aegis. I don't think so ��

Thanks so much for the info. Weapon sounds promising. Will need to look into buying that arcane aegis.

[Drannak]

2 days now there are only the blades in action :/

[Thewolfbull]

The proc of the "Nightmare Guard of Coruscation" is like the proc of the lvl 46 Dragonsword proc: small geysers that have a chance to srun and damage. The proc of the "Terror Blade of Coruscation" is a small vortex, sucking baddies in and damaging them. I think we have seen that in the Planar Blade before. I prefer the Guard as a pve player.

As for the Glinstone Aegis: As much as i love it, it barely damages in the deeper levels of Mausoleum. It is here for the taunt only.

Hit me up in game tomorrow if you need to see it in action.

I tried it out and didnt like it different playstyles i guess :D

[Ardbeg]

Here are some pics for your orientation:

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[Ardbeg]

I tried it out and didnt like it different playstyles i guess :D

Playstyle and Company. If you really need to tank, there's nothing wrong with the Glint Aegis. But then there are parties which don' t want to be slowed down by a tank. This always depends...

[Thewolfbull]

Playstyle and Company. If you really need to tank, there's nothing wrong with the Glint Aegis. But then there are parties which don' t want to be slowed down by a tank. This always depends...

Havent ran into a pt that didnt want a tank in a long time in my opinion mages do most of the dmg these day I just try to keep aggro off them so they can kill easier/faster glints taunt is best for this. Immortal staff and whimm kills most of the mobs before you can even try to damage them :p the new weapons arent for me but I get why some might like them :)

[Ardbeg]

Seems like the Blade also has some glitches:


Problems with the sword
1. Its bugged when the vortex is spawned it pulls the caster
2. The planar vortex pull better then the arc wep

I suggest making the pull stronger not allowing speed set to counter just my opinion

Keep this thread drama free

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[Teddy Ray Robbins]

I had both since I hit 66, sword and ageis good in PvP and PvP, but after a week of trying to decide I chose to keep the agies 66, so I guess I would say agies

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[Ardbeg]

I tested the Blade: The damage output is very satisfying, but the proc is a bit meh and rare compared to the Guards proc. For those interested in the skill damage, i post some screenshots. Note that the skill damage of the Blade is almost double the damage of the Glint Aegis even though the Aegis has an obscene str awakening. I did not strip down gear and pet, i just present what i have unbuffed with roughly comparable awakenings on the weapons:

Glintstone Aegis:

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Guard:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170718/d8d9aa271f19a347601d94eae15b5b93.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170718/c97cf1be2c6f07d4028ad150a2c9ad44.jpg

Blade:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170718/b576b68d97814ba4814dd72a8900fe1b.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170718/1b37cfb7285e98eed64d470f04b377f2.jpg

My favourite (for pve) is still the Guard, because it procs with high frequency and the stun is nearly as helpful as the Glintstone proc, while i have a good damage output. This of course may vary with your awakenings and party. I hope that helps!

[Midievalmodel]

Hey ard. Have you compared your skill damage of Dusk claymore potency to the new lvl 66 arcane sword or aegis? So my skill damage for skyward smash with Dusk claymore potency is 6524 - 8150 which is almost 1500 to 2000 higher than new lvl 66 arcane sword. How does that translate to damage output strictly speaking?......factoring in the damage per tick of the Procs of the arcane weapons which the legendary weapon doesn't have.

[Thewolfbull]

I tested the Blade: The damage output is very satisfying, but the proc is a bit meh and rare compared to the Guards proc. For those interested in the skill damage, i post some screenshots. Note that the skill damage of the Blade is almost double the damage of the Glint Aegis even though the Aegis has an obscene str awakening. I did not strip down gear and pet, i just present what i have unbuffed with roughly comparable awakenings on the weapons:

Glintstone Aegis:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170718/68723008c7f1026cfb97a0568af9e65b.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170718/637625df4858cb801ba5d276caa9556a.jpg

Guard:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170718/d8d9aa271f19a347601d94eae15b5b93.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170718/c97cf1be2c6f07d4028ad150a2c9ad44.jpg

Blade:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170718/b576b68d97814ba4814dd72a8900fe1b.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170718/1b37cfb7285e98eed64d470f04b377f2.jpg

My favourite (for pve) is still the Guard, because it procs with high frequency and the stun is nearly as helpful as the Glintstone proc, while i have a good damage output. This of course may vary with your awakenings and party. I hope that helps!

You don't use speed set? Nice stats btw

[Ardbeg]

You don't use speed set? Nice stats btw

Actually, i have 50 % speed bonus in awakenings. I rolled 2x10% in my artifact alone, that allows me to run without speed set.

[Ardbeg]

Hey ard. Have you compared your skill damage of Dusk claymore potency to the new lvl 66 arcane sword or aegis? So my skill damage for skyward smash with Dusk claymore potency is 6524 - 8150 which is almost 1500 to 2000 higher than new lvl 66 arcane sword. How does that translate to damage output strictly speaking?......factoring in the damage per tick of the Procs of the arcane weapons which the legendary weapon doesn't have.

I don't have that much damage with the claymore (at least not unbuffed and without active vb). Here is what i have:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170719/7d2a3074350ab639d9077c0170e10a81.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170719/03593111fb4a10f28492653211e8a887.jpg

I don't think you will miss the proc damage much, but you will miss 2 awakening slots and lot's of armor.

[Fearrr]

Thx for info and pics. Midi can't wait to hear your full review of Arc Aegis when you are finished testing ^_^

[Kakashis]

Had the chance to run mauso with a new aegis tank user yesterday. It was pretty cool the procs, but I found that it doesn't hold aggro as much as the old aegis. Tanks don't need to damage, but they need to take away all that aggression from mobs. It. Could also have been level scaling, but I felt like I was taking more damage than with the old version.

[Midievalmodel]

Had the chance to run mauso with a new aegis tank user yesterday. It was pretty cool the procs, but I found that it doesn't hold aggro as much as the old aegis. Tanks don't need to damage, but they need to take away all that aggression from mobs. It. Could also have been level scaling, but I felt like I was taking more damage than with the old version.

Thanks for the honest assessment. I unfortunately have to agree with you kakashis. After testing the new nightmare aegis extensively I just am not a fan. I thought the damage output would be more than the glint aegis but it just doesn't compare. Not only does glint aegis hold aggro so much better it also does more damage than the nightmare can even imagine. If glint aegis is used correctly with correct pets and skills and mastery upgrade it outdamage the nightmare aegis easily. People are too focused on glint aegis actual skill damage when in reality its proc damage is what makes it so strong. So i just sold my nightmare aegis. Hope this helps.

[Fearrr]

Thx Midi. It helped me because I been debating buying one, now going to pass on it. When you finish testing Arc Sword let us know your opinion on that as well. I noticed in raids its helpful with mobs.

[Minisalami]

I did some runs with a 2nd war who used the ac sword (after the update) in m5/6. Unfortunately several times it pulled cursing undead mages into range and a kind of "backfire" wiped out the whole party. Can anybody confirm that ?

[Midievalmodel]

I did some runs with a 2nd war who used the ac sword (after the update) in m5/6. Unfortunately several times it pulled cursing undead mages into range and a kind of "backfire" wiped out the whole party. Can anybody confirm that ?

Mini I would still suggest running with glint aegis for mobs for max damage and mob clearance over the new arcane aegis or arcane sword. But with glint aegis you gotta know what u are doing because you can kill urself easily from curse mage especially if ur team or you don't have glowstik aa and do not time it correctly. Also new lvl 66 arcane sword is tricky to use in maus but its more effective than nightmare aegis for damage. But yes the proc pulls enemies in and can kill party by pulling in curse mage. So you have to time your glowstik aa correctly when you see the curse mages while using the new arcane sword. With that being said I have been testing the new arcane sword and where it truly shines is at boss fights. The proc creating that tornado actually does alot of damage and bosses health drops fast. From my testing when the arcane sword proc happens it causes 2000 to 3000 damage per tick (which is bascially per second) while enemies are in the tornado. Unfortunately some times the mobs run away from the tornado proc. If you compare this to the proc damage of nightmare purple geysers which only does maybe 300 damage per tick. Even though the nightmare aegis procs more often and each time you proc you actually create 4 to 5 purple geysers most mobs don't walk directly over the geysers and don't take damage. Also I find that the stun of the purple geyser seems ineffective. It just doesn't seem to stun as well as old dragon hunter proc. While the new lvl 66 arcane sword proc pulls in the mobs into your tornado to allow for 3 to 5 mobs to take 2000 to 3000 damage per tick (per second). Hope this helps.

[Minisalami]

Tbh i would never buy nor use one of these new ac weapons as they are absolutely overpriced for their performance. I agree to what you are saying , that's why I stick with glint aegis .
Suggest to use Sam slotted with nilbog as and fenris happiness in maus for its overall performance instead of glow. Cd is much faster.

[Midievalmodel]

I usually run with a second person with glow and we alternate aa. But yes nilbog is an affordable alternative and yes it's cd is faster. But just not as effective to cover whole party especially with the way I run maus maps with my party. I run ahead with speed set and gather a ton of mobs and wait for my party members to catch up and hit glow aa to cover all members cuz of its wider area of effect. Also has more pools for extra damage. After u gather mobs I quick switch to full nightmare set and use glint for damage.....if i am not lazy to switch of course lol.

[Fearrr]

Thx Midi again for the detailed information on Aegis and Sword very interesting. I think I will grab new Arc Sword for boss fights and raids.

[Little Table]

I use glint aegis + magma in old map because no curse. In new map like maus and raid i use new guard model. Stun is nice and pt is more safe but i see new sword proc in maus, its rly nice pull and dmg in tornado. Maybe i will buy sword for maus test.

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[Midievalmodel]

I use glint aegis + magma in old map because no curse. In new map like maus and raid i use new guard model. Stun is nice and pt is more safe but i see new sword proc in maus, its rly nice pull and dmg in tornado. Maybe i will buy sword for maus test.

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I guess different play styles. I find the nightmare aegis makes runs too slow. I like very fast runs and that might be why I prefer glint aegis in all maps of maus. I switch to new arcane sword on boss.

If you run with a well synced party you can rotate your glowstik AA allowing for constant curse coverage. I typically have one or two dps party members activate magma aa once they see glowstik AA. So when ur aegis procs like a madman you are covered from curse death. That creates fastest run possible with minimal deaths if party runs well together.