Extensive Reference to the Site Leaders!

[Zeus]

So, I know there is a tab that indicates Site Leaders, but it is hidden. Thus, I decided to borrow from the other one and post it here with a few updates. Mine contains and will update the activity of the leaders so you, the forum person, know which one to PM and which one not to PM.

To find a specific name here, do the following steps:

Windows Users:

Make sure your browser is the active window. Do so by simply clicking inside your browser or anywhere on it's interface.
Hit CTRL+F; Then type in the name you want to find and hit ENTER. Your computer should direct you to the name.


Apple OS X Users:

Make sure your browser is in the active window. Do so by simply clicking inside your browser or anywhere on it's interface.
Hit either CTRL+F or COMMAND+F; Type the name you want to find and hit ENTER. Your computer should direct you to the name. NOTE: I gave two options, because depending on your computer settings, one of the latter should work.

Just a guide sheet to follow when taking a look at this database of appellations:
*= Not active in the past 2 weeks
(Active)= When put at the top of a list, it means everybody in the list is active.

Without further ado:


Administrators: (All Administrators are Active!)

• 0xff (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?48007-0xff)
• AAA (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?43844-AAA)
• Administrator (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?1-Administrator)
• Asommers (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?3-asommers)
• Awesomeness (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?19841-Awesomeness)
• Cassric (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?19525-Cassric)
• Cinco (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?7-Cinco)
• Decker (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?6-Decker)
• Dracknor (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?44498-Dracknor)
• Flip (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?57157-Flip)
• Futumsh (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?4-Futumsh)
• Jakis (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?5-Jakis)
• Justg (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?2-Justg)
• Kobrakai73 (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?52224-Kobrakai73)
• Lotus (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?52378-Lotus)
• Null_void (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?39-null_void)
• Samhayne (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?9-Samhayne)
• Spacetime-Studios (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?12-Spacetime-Studios)
• TestDev (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?10-TestDev)
• Thade (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?31895-Thade)
• WebDev (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?62894-WebDev)

Alterra Guardians: (*= Inactivity)


• Apollo (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?11415-Apollo)
• Arterra (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?14454-Arterra)
• Ayrilana (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?32466-Ayrilana)*
• ChadM (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?34413-ChadM)*
• Conradin (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?14089-Conradin)
• CowboyJim (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?12889-CowboyJim)*
• CrimsonTider (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?50065-CrimsonTider)
• DanielRH (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?14216-DanielRH)
• Darkfader (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?9795-Darkfader)
• DawnInfinity (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?10978-DawnInfinity)
• Ellyidol (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?15088-Ellyidol)
• FluffNStuff (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?9075-FluffNStuff)
• JaytB (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?39681-JaytB)
• Kalielle (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?12504-Kalielle)
• King-Richie (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?4905-King-Richie)*
• Mysticaldream (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?8074-Mysticaldream)
• Navygreen (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?57779-Navygreen)
• Orei (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?14643-Orei)*
• Otukura (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?36211-Otukura)
• Petrichor (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?47436-Petrichor)
• Physiologic (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?35129-Physiologic)
• Redbridge (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?39066-Redbridge)
• RedRyder (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?7977-RedRyder)
• Royce (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?6183-Royce)
• Snakespeare (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?10182-Snakespeare)
• StompArtist (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?30139-StompArtist)
• WoundedEagle (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?46188-WoundedEagle)
• Wrap (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?19555-Wrap)*
• Yanis (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?15108-Yanis)


Chroniclers of Alterra: (*=Inactivity!)


• Apollo (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?11415-Apollo)
• Arterra (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?14454-Arterra)
• Bobloblaw (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?33504-Bobloblaw)*
• Conradin (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?14089-Conradin)
• CrimsonTider (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?50065-CrimsonTider)
• DawnInfinity (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?10978-DawnInfinity)
• Hidden_lantern (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?48269-hidden_lantern)*
• LADYHADASSA (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?39173-LADYHADASSA)
• Nazgulking (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?17105-nazgulking)
• NeoQueen (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?49437-NeoQueen)
• Nightarcher (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?12859-Nightarcher)
• Otukura (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?36211-Otukura)
• Ratava (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?8938-ratava)*
• Redbridge (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?39066-Redbridge)

Dev Team: (All of the Developers are Active!)

• 0xff (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?48007-0xff)
• AAA (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?43844-AAA)
• Administrator (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?1-Administrator)
• Asommers (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?3-asommers)
• Awesomeness (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?19841-Awesomeness)
• Cassric (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?19525-Cassric)
• Cinco (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?7-Cinco)
• Decker (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?6-Decker)
• Dracknor (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?44498-Dracknor)
• Flip (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?57157-Flip)
• Futumsh (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?4-Futumsh)
• Jakis (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?5-Jakis)
• Justg (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?2-Justg)
• Kobrakai73 (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?52224-Kobrakai73)
• Lotus (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?52378-Lotus)
• Null_void (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?39-null_void)
• Techno-Email (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?60329-Techno-Email)
• TestDev (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?10-TestDev)
• Thade (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?31895-Thade)

Super Moderators:
(All Super Moderators are Active!)

• Moderator13 (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?63351-Moderator13)
• Moderator42 (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?61763-moderator42)
• Moderator7 (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?27-Moderator7)
• Samhayne (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?9-Samhayne)
• Spacetime-Studios (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?12-Spacetime-Studios)

Tournament Management:
(All Tournament Managers are Active!)
• Alwaysdtf (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?48272-Alwaysdtf)
• Otukura (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?36211-Otukura)
• Pvpdexbear (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?50327-Pvpdexbear)
• Silentarrow (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?51959-Silentarrow)
• Ueteanetabac (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?57095-Ueteanetabac)


NOTE: I will slowly start adding forum links to each user profile. This will help to make PMing easier, as you can just use these for a quick reference sheet.

[Zeus]

Post Reserved.

Please give me a heads up if I made any errors. Thank You!

[Whirlzap]

0.0
Wow you now win #1 Forum Stalker Prize.

[SUPAPRODIGY]

Lol i should be in the donators page IMO lol but over all very nicely done...

Good job Parth

[Phoenixking]

Wait i dont get this? What if your on ios :O

[Zeus]

Wait i dont get this? What if your on ios :O

All the lists are in alphabetical order. You can just search alphabetically.

[Zeus]

0.0
Wow you now win #1 Forum Stalker Prize.

Thank you, where do I collect this prize? When people ask me if I'm a stalker, I will just present this award to them now. Makes life so much easier!

[Zeus]

Also, sorry for the triple post, but if people can help me with the hyperlinks, that would be great. I am currently working on the Administrator section. All other sections are still up for grabs.

[WoundedEagle]

iOS List mess-up Parf ;)

[Zeus]

iOS List mess-up Parf ;)

What do you mean? Care to elaborate so I can fix?

[WoundedEagle]

What do you mean? Care to elaborate so I can fix?

This


Apple OS X Users:
[LIST]
Make sure your browser is in the active window. Do so by simply clicking inside your browser or anywhere on it's interface.
Hit either CTRL+F or COMMAND+F; Type the name you want to find and hit ENTER. Your computer should direct you to the name. NOTE: I gave two options, because depending on your computer settings, one of the latter should work.

You didn't end lists

[Zeus]

This



You didn't end lists

Fixed, thanks!

[NECROREAPER]

Like I said before, lmk what you need help with Parf

[Cascade]

There is a new one I just spotted by the name 'Webdev'.

[Zeus]

There is a new one I just spotted by the name 'Webdev'.

Will update, thanks Cascade!

[fallen0888]

Thank you lets me know who's post are from people will might know a thing or two..... well you post daily just about so everyone should know your not a stocker just well informed

*** edit and I see casscade always in forms :)

[Otukura]

Otukara... Otukara... Otukara....

Oh, now I can't tell if this is just to be annoying. Fix it, and you win? :D

[Zeus]

Oh, now I can't tell if this is just to be annoying. Fix it, and you win? :D

*Sigh* Fine, only because I win. :)

[NECROREAPER]

Hey Parth, make sure you add AoA to there too.

I'll make a list when I get home from work

[Zeus]

Hey Parth, make sure you add AoA to there too.

I'll make a list when I get home from work

Yeah, I know. On it! :) Thanks Necro!

[Ghastly]

Nice job parth. Just remember, if people think you are a stalker just ignore them..,

[Artemis]

Congratulations on the sticky, Parth(:

Correct grammar just for you.

[Zeus]

Congratulations on the sticky, Parth(:

Correct grammar just for you.

You didn't put a period after Parth. :) "Correct grammar just for you" is a fragment. :)

[WoundedEagle]

You didn't put a period after Parth. :) "Correct grammar just for you" is a fragment. :)
L-M-A-O.

[Otukura]

*Sigh* Fine, only because I win. :)

You don't win until you change it in the Chronicler and the Tournament Manager section!

[Zeus]

Necro, did you get the Ambassadors list? I'll start to resume adding links.

[Zeus]

You don't win until you change it in the Chronicler and the Tournament Manager section!

Okay, now I won.

Will edit in the Ambassadors soon, I haven't forgotten. I just finished linking all the profiles. Man! That was a grind!

[DanielRH]

Not completely sure if you got em all, i do believe all the devs/mods are in my dev watch thingy, u should have a look (u need to be logged in for the dev watch utility to work) hope it can help some! :)

http://pocketlegendsfans.com/devwatch/

[Luvaria]

Necro, did you get the Ambassadors list? I'll start to resume adding links.

Well I saw this list and thought of you guys :)

AMBASSADORS OF ALTERRA

Alterrahelp
AceHelper
AmbassadrCrim
Ambassadora
Ambassadordan
Archershelp
Aricube
Arthagntwo
Bitesizebear
Blackberries
Blahgart
Dpenguinking
Elyseonhost
Firebeneath
Gluttonous
Helpcentre
Helpinya
Ihelper
Immortalelf
Kingofthefunk
Kkattiee
Kniwt
Leucocephalus
Llamadrama
Maroonryder
Pandar
Parrotdise
Ripwhalz
Rizzlehelp
Roc
Sirhelpsalot
Survivorhelp
Thebloodybear
Thepumpking
Twink
Lvlonewarrior
Voodooboss
Vvell
Welcomedragon
Welcomer

Made by Pandar though, so it's quite old.

[XghostzX]

Oh! Do I count as a tournament manager? :D

[CowboyJim]

I am no longer inactive. Came back in November....just not as active as before. Thanks P.

[ImHawk]

Gotta add the new devs..
H2n and Redstapler..\
there super moderators too i think

[Noodleleg]

Update :D Necro ftw too!

[drewcapu]

no need for this anymore.
easier to just go to Quick Links | View Site Leaders
http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showgroups.php

[seller]

Well I saw this list and thought of you guys :)

AMBASSADORS OF ALTERRA

Alterrahelp
AceHelper
AmbassadrCrim
Ambassadora
Ambassadordan
Archershelp
Aricube
Arthagntwo
Bitesizebear
Blackberries
Blahgart
Dpenguinking
Elyseonhost
Firebeneath
Gluttonous
Helpcentre
Helpinya
Ihelper
Immortalelf
Kingofthefunk
Kkattiee
Kniwt
Leucocephalus
Llamadrama
Maroonryder
Pandar
Parrotdise
Ripwhalz
Rizzlehelp
Roc
Sirhelpsalot
Survivorhelp
Thebloodybear
Thepumpking
Twink
Lvlonewarrior
Voodooboss
Vvell
Welcomedragon
Welcomer

Made by Pandar though, so it's quite old.

haha i remember that list it was the one that made me excited for AOA i was firebeneath btw

[Elyseon]

Need update

[AbsolutePally]

Update! I'm goa ha ghost delph

[Greencrow]

So, I know there is a tab that indicates Site Leaders, but it is hidden. Thus, I decided to borrow from the other one and post it here with a few updates. Mine contains and will update the activity of the leaders so you, the forum person, know which one to PM and which one not to PM.

To find a specific name here, do the following steps:

Windows Users:

Make sure your browser is the active window. Do so by simply clicking inside your browser or anywhere on it's interface.
Hit CTRL+F; Then type in the name you want to find and hit ENTER. Your computer should direct you to the name.


Apple OS X Users:

Make sure your browser is in the active window. Do so by simply clicking inside your browser or anywhere on it's interface.
Hit either CTRL+F or COMMAND+F; Type the name you want to find and hit ENTER. Your computer should direct you to the name. NOTE: I gave two options, because depending on your computer settings, one of the latter should work.

Just a guide sheet to follow when taking a look at this database of appellations:
*= Not active in the past 2 weeks
(Active)= When put at the top of a list, it means everybody in the list is active.

Without further ado:


Administrators: (All Administrators are Active!)

• 0xff (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?48007-0xff)
• AAA (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?43844-AAA)
• Administrator (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?1-Administrator)
• Asommers (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?3-asommers)
• Awesomeness (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?19841-Awesomeness)
• Cassric (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?19525-Cassric)
• Cinco (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?7-Cinco)
• Decker (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?6-Decker)
• Dracknor (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?44498-Dracknor)
• Flip (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?57157-Flip)
• Futumsh (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?4-Futumsh)
• Jakis (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?5-Jakis)
• Justg (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?2-Justg)
• Kobrakai73 (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?52224-Kobrakai73)
• Lotus (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?52378-Lotus)
• Null_void (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?39-null_void)
• Samhayne (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?9-Samhayne)
• Spacetime-Studios (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?12-Spacetime-Studios)
• TestDev (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?10-TestDev)
• Thade (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?31895-Thade)
• WebDev (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?62894-WebDev)

Alterra Guardians: (*= Inactivity)


• Apollo (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?11415-Apollo)
• Arterra (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?14454-Arterra)
• Ayrilana (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?32466-Ayrilana)*
• ChadM (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?34413-ChadM)*
• Conradin (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?14089-Conradin)
• CowboyJim (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?12889-CowboyJim)*
• CrimsonTider (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?50065-CrimsonTider)
• DanielRH (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?14216-DanielRH)
• Darkfader (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?9795-Darkfader)
• DawnInfinity (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?10978-DawnInfinity)
• Ellyidol (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?15088-Ellyidol)
• FluffNStuff (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?9075-FluffNStuff)
• JaytB (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?39681-JaytB)
• Kalielle (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?12504-Kalielle)
• King-Richie (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?4905-King-Richie)*
• Mysticaldream (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?8074-Mysticaldream)
• Navygreen (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?57779-Navygreen)
• Orei (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?14643-Orei)*
• Otukura (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?36211-Otukura)
• Petrichor (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?47436-Petrichor)
• Physiologic (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?35129-Physiologic)
• Redbridge (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?39066-Redbridge)
• RedRyder (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?7977-RedRyder)
• Royce (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?6183-Royce)
• Snakespeare (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?10182-Snakespeare)
• StompArtist (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?30139-StompArtist)
• WoundedEagle (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?46188-WoundedEagle)
• Wrap (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?19555-Wrap)*
• Yanis (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?15108-Yanis)


Chroniclers of Alterra: (*=Inactivity!)


• Apollo (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?11415-Apollo)
• Arterra (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?14454-Arterra)
• Bobloblaw (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?33504-Bobloblaw)*
• Conradin (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?14089-Conradin)
• CrimsonTider (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?50065-CrimsonTider)
• DawnInfinity (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?10978-DawnInfinity)
• Hidden_lantern (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?48269-hidden_lantern)*
• LADYHADASSA (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?39173-LADYHADASSA)
• Nazgulking (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?17105-nazgulking)
• NeoQueen (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?49437-NeoQueen)
• Nightarcher (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?12859-Nightarcher)
• Otukura (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?36211-Otukura)
• Ratava (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?8938-ratava)*
• Redbridge (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?39066-Redbridge)

Dev Team: (All of the Developers are Active!)

• 0xff (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?48007-0xff)
• AAA (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?43844-AAA)
• Administrator (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?1-Administrator)
• Asommers (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?3-asommers)
• Awesomeness (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?19841-Awesomeness)
• Cassric (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?19525-Cassric)
• Cinco (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?7-Cinco)
• Decker (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?6-Decker)
• Dracknor (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?44498-Dracknor)
• Flip (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?57157-Flip)
• Futumsh (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?4-Futumsh)
• Jakis (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?5-Jakis)
• Justg (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?2-Justg)
• Kobrakai73 (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?52224-Kobrakai73)
• Lotus (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?52378-Lotus)
• Null_void (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?39-null_void)
• Techno-Email (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?60329-Techno-Email)
• TestDev (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?10-TestDev)
• Thade (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?31895-Thade)

Super Moderators:
(All Super Moderators are Active!)

• Moderator13 (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?63351-Moderator13)
• Moderator42 (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?61763-moderator42)
• Moderator7 (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?27-Moderator7)
• Samhayne (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?9-Samhayne)
• Spacetime-Studios (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?12-Spacetime-Studios)

Tournament Management:
(All Tournament Managers are Active!)
• Alwaysdtf (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?48272-Alwaysdtf)
• Otukura (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?36211-Otukura)
• Pvpdexbear (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?50327-Pvpdexbear)
• Silentarrow (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?51959-Silentarrow)
• Ueteanetabac (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?57095-Ueteanetabac)


NOTE: I will slowly start adding forum links to each user profile. This will help to make PMing easier, as you can just use these for a quick reference sheet.


I cant find delphina o.O i cant ctrl f coz im in tablet now.

[Rawrimafish]

question: if you get banned from forums with say... more then 1 green bar thing, does those bars turn red or do u loose them all and get 1 red one?

[Alhuntrazeck]

just curious, but how dyou get the alterra title?

[Battlegrinder]

just curious, but how dyou get the alterra title?

Sadly, that program (and its sister program in SL) was discontinued quite some time ago, IIRC. You got the title by doing important and helpful stuff on the forums, being useful in the games, ect.