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Gouiwaa9000
12-10-2017, 06:44 AM
Ive always wondered why are the controlls so simple and give almost no reward to players with good mechanical skill , rather its just button smashing ( i can play with my eyes closed and still do good ). Sure it gives a slight advantage in pvp since i can combo skills faster and thus have higher dps but by now most decent playes do that easly , for pve it ends on the the abillity to tap between pots and skills quickly . Im thinking of a new optional UI that can give some extra control over your character ( basicly manual control over what the system does automatically , like skill targeting ) . What do you guys think , also feel free to post any ideas for such a UI .

Edit : removed suggestions that took me less than 5mins to come up with cuz apperently nobody reads the larger , highlighted text . ( note to self , next time make bolt characters larger that the rest of the post and bright red XD )

Lethoiun
12-10-2017, 06:54 AM
Ummmm okay I tried reading and failed, tried again and gave up. Um so make the controls complicated? I think the way it's designed is intentional

Gouiwaa9000
12-10-2017, 07:00 AM
Ummmm okay I tried reading and failed, tried again and gave up. Um so make the controls complicated? I think the way it's designed is intentional

Lol sorry about that .But yes in shot its just a complex ( manual ) control system that poeple with good mechanical skill can use . Pretty much removes the limit of how good you can do to skill cooldowns . But as i said it should be optional since alot of poeple cant play like that .

Flamesofanger
12-10-2017, 07:41 AM
I'm not sure of the removing joystick part.

Motherless_Child
12-10-2017, 08:03 PM
Ive always wondered why are the controlls so simple and give almost no reward to players with good mechanical skill , rather its just button smashing ( i can play with my eyes closed and still do good ). Sure it gives a slight advantage in pvp since i can combo skills faster and thus have higher dps but by now most decent playes do that easly , for pve it ends on the the abillity to tap between pots and skills quickly . Im suggesting a new optional ( enabled from settings ) UI that can give some extra control over your character if you feel like learning it .

*Just want to hear the opinions on the subject of making a more complex and mechanically challenging UI with rewards for players who feel like using it , the ideas bellow are just a hint of something that could be implemented** feel free to comment any other ideas or judge mine XD ** bonus points if you guess which mobile game im taking some of these from * :)


First of all - manually targeted skills will be a nice option ( like in a Moba , select the skill and tap the enemy you want it to hit ) , this way i can send my fireball into the middle of the mob group/enemy team and stun the targets i want to stun rather than have it fly to a barrel 20m behind me .

- Remove the virtual joystick ( all targeting and moving can be be done manually by tapping on the screen instead of having your fingers rest in one place and relying on auto-targeting system ) .

- Improved movement system , Just start moving the character towards the place i tap on my screen ( something similar to how moving in pc MOBA games works ) this will probablly feel weird , but very usefull in the case of ping spikes , fps drops and that time where you cant even see your character because of the flashy procs/aa's/skills going off in a clash and end out walking over 5 pools of stacked death from a sns .

- skill swap shortcuts , ok this is a pure 100% upgrade with no cons , but the above ones should make up for it . ( tap and hold a skill to show a single shortcut above it , tap that to swap , unable to move or attack while swaping )

- ability to skip skill animations by casting a diffirent one . ( something close to what happens if you quickly use ice/lighting/gun atk or fb/lighting/gun atk on mage , but instead of merging the two animations one is just skipped )

- Remove the slight skill 'cooldown' you recive after using a diffirent one ( its rather annoying to have less output thah input , sometimes makes you tap twice )

-smaller icons of everything - beeing able to see more of whats infront of you is nice .

- i guess this comes with the manually targeted skills but , dashes should be fully manual in terms of the direction ( ever had your gale force throw you backwards into a wall ? Yeah its annoying af ) , rogs charged sp broken into two 'stages'

- ( this one might be to much , but i still like it XD ) select a target to auto attack with your weapon if its in range , AoE attacks just deal damage to nearby ones .Double Tap a diffirent target to swap and instantly reset your Auto attack. ( handy to single out a mob to proc your weapon , but can get really confusing )

( posted in general by accident , feel free to move it to suggestions if you have the powah to do so :))

"First of all - manually targeted skills will be a nice option" - Seems that would be a bit elaborate... Too much tapping in-between skills and pots... IMO, that would just lead to more delay. Instead, it would be better to just have skills fire in the direction that you are facing/firing and fire at "enemy" targets "only", this would fix the frustrating misfires when you intend to hit a particular target (sometimes right in front of you) and the skill fires in a totally different direction towards other targets (sometimes further away targets and sometimes those stupid barrels + crates).......

"Remove the virtual joystick ( all targeting and moving can be be done manually by tapping on the screen instead of having your fingers rest in one place and relying on auto-targeting system)" - Just, no. That "tap screen to move" stuff is just, no.

"Improved movement system" - improvements have already been made to the movement system when movement speed % awakening enhancements and the speed sets were implemented. In terms of "movement", there are currently no adjustments or improvements needed.

"ability to skip skill animations by casting a different one" - No comment.

"skill swap shortcuts , ok this is a pure 100% upgrade with no cons , but the above ones should make up for it . ( tap and hold a skill to show a single shortcut above it , tap that to swap , unable to move or attack while swapping)" - Also a bit elaborate... Seems it would only create delays...

"ability to skip skill animations by casting a diffirent one" - No comment.

"Remove the slight skill 'cooldown' you receive after using a different one" - No comment.

"smaller icons of everything" - No comment.

"dashes should be fully manual in terms of the direction" - No comment.

"select a target to auto attack with your weapon if its in range" - No comment.

Just my opinion on each option.

FearAL
12-12-2017, 12:02 PM
The selective targeting would be too op in pvp, if that happened everyone would target the rogue and there would be no point in even having tanks


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kallop
12-12-2017, 01:07 PM
Only the skilled ones would be able to hit rouges