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Paw
02-25-2018, 10:11 AM
With the upcoming expsnsion and announced changes going forward i have decided to list a few little things looking back that i feel would benefit the AL community as a whole and address a few serious issues i personaly have faced. In no way do i inted to offend any specific player or any specific type of player, nor am i in any way suggesting my ways are better than current methods.

Will start off with a few just to get the ball rolling

Feel free to contribute with ideas and discuss in a friendly manner. Keep it clean and happy hunting


1. Leeching

Almost every day i face this issue in one form or another. People who just stay dead at bosses or dont engage with bosses leaving the others to fight without them. In organised partys its fine but in random PUG's its everywhere. In Maus, in event maps, in arena etc.

Firstly as we now have ankhs i wouldnt be against the idea of not giving loot to those who are just lying dead at boss. Either ankh or run back to boss because its not fair to those who are. Secondly would love to have a boot option where if 3 players decide unanimously to boot a player from the map, they are booted from the map and placed in town

2. Dummy farming.

As we all know this was an issue in the past and still is in some parts. The frustrating thing is that as a community we could easily police it and deal with these people ourselves. Problem is that CTF maps lock after the score reaches 4-4 leaving the farmers to farm in peace. Just leaving the map always open wont totaly stop them but will surely make it just that much harder

3. Cleaner inventory

These days i dont know myself whats in my inventory. Theres too many things to scroll past to find what you need. I know its been mentioned before but maybe grouping things together or even placing things alphabetically will help make things slightly easier

4. Pet pickups

A lot of random useless stuff is picked up by pets at times. Specialy when doing lower level maps. As ive mentioned on another thread, removing all common and rare drops and replacing them with gold drops may be a feasable option. Or adding an option where we can toggle on and off pet pickups would be a very nice addition

5. Increase Maximum Gold Limit

I wish this did apply to me but it doesnt :( . With current prices of some items rocketing past 300m+ its impossible to make these trades without a risk of being scammed. Would love to see an increase in the max limit to stop these scams happening :)

Paw
02-25-2018, 10:13 AM
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Jawr
02-25-2018, 10:32 AM
Would like to see renaming from vendor (story token) or rename chest that is tradeable which can be bought for platinums however nobody wants to see bunch of new names every day so make we can rename only once per 6 month or even a year.

DalleManden
02-25-2018, 10:41 AM
I agree with the option to turn off pet pick ups of common/rare/epic items.

I, for one, would like to see classes being used more for their original role (War as tank, Mage CC, Rogue DPS) - Because I feel like everyone expects mages to be a one man band who can do everything :D

TipsyLife
02-25-2018, 11:02 AM
Not with idea 1 at all

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Paw
02-25-2018, 11:10 AM
I agree with the option to turn off pet pick ups of common/rare/epic items.

I, for one, would like to see classes being used more for their original role (War as tank, Mage CC, Rogue DPS) - Because I feel like everyone expects mages to be a one man band who can do everything :D

I think thats mainly due to mages being more balanced right now than most other classes in pve. Eg i can clear m6 comfortably solo with mage but not with rogue or war. With rogue and war its definitely much much harder

Paw
02-25-2018, 11:12 AM
Not with idea 1 at all

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May i ask why?

Vrazicak
02-25-2018, 11:13 AM
I agree with the option to turn off pet pick ups of common/rare/epic items.

I, for one, would like to see classes being used more for their original role (War as tank, Mage CC, Rogue DPS) - Because I feel like everyone expects mages to be a one man band who can do everything :D

I don't think you get the fact that mages can do anything right now, they're pretty much superior with all the gear they have

DalleManden
02-25-2018, 11:17 AM
I don't think you get the fact that mages can do anything right now, they're pretty much superior with all the gear they have

I do get it, and that's why I want the classes to be better balanced. Sorry for the improper formulation lol

Paw
02-25-2018, 11:24 AM
With all due respect guys. There are many threads discussing class balance and other stuff. This thread was more to list "quality of life" changes and ways to make this game a better overall experience for all players.

To add something else id love to see is something for PvE kills like tombs. Currently its almost impossible to catch up to those who racked up millions of kills in Watchers tombs and Camp Nordr when they used to give PvE kills. Hauntlet is a decent place but mob density is way to low IMO

Xxsoifongxx
02-25-2018, 12:32 PM
I always thought of the idea to vote a player out of maps


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wowdah
02-25-2018, 01:42 PM
Voting a player out of maps is a very bad idea —*people can just vote those with lesser gear and skill out, which is terrible for the players who get voted out, and those who are poor. Parties exist for a reason.

Drone
02-25-2018, 02:33 PM
Suggestions for leeches:

1) Staying dead at bosses = no loots
2) Loitering but not contributing on boss fights? aggro bosses to leech = dead leech = no loots

* suggestion 2 is impractical but I would go out of my way and do it all the times, it's fun when leeches rage.

Daughter
02-25-2018, 02:42 PM
And please remove Trade Permit. A lot of Player selling Dummy Accounts with Trade Permit for 200-300k per Account


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Paw
02-25-2018, 02:48 PM
Voting a player out of maps is a very bad idea —*people can just vote those with lesser gear and skill out, which is terrible for the players who get voted out, and those who are poor. Parties exist for a reason.

How about adding the vote to kick option for high end elites and upper levels of Maus only? The main reason for this is there in the answer itself. The whole point of having a vote to kick button is so that "those with lesser gear or skill" who clearly arent ready for the harder maps can be kicked out rather than walking behind the rest of the team and picking up loot

Paw
02-25-2018, 02:54 PM
And please remove Trade Permit. A lot of Player selling Dummy Accounts with Trade Permit for 200-300k per Account


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Didnt realise this was a thing. Another problem with trade permit is that it puts a lot of new players off from playing. These days i end up deleting the low end eggs such as Malison and Loki as we cant even gift them to the newbies as we once did

Daughter
02-25-2018, 02:56 PM
Didnt realise this was a thing. Another problem with trade permit is that it puts a lot of new players off from playing. These days i end up deleting the low end eggs such as Malison and Loki as we cant even gift them to the newbies as we once did

I joined some Facebook AL Groups bcs I thought I get help there and can sell my Items or Eggs, but there everyone just selling Accounts, Gold and more things against the ToD


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Paw
02-25-2018, 03:03 PM
I joined some Facebook AL Groups bcs I thought I get help there and can sell my Items or Eggs, but there everyone just selling Accounts, Gold and more things against the ToD


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Have you tried to Message a Dev with this info as im sure with a bit of spywork they can find the culprits and punish the ones involved. We would be very naieve as a community to pretend this doesnt happen but its worse to see this happen and not report it

wowdah
02-25-2018, 03:20 PM
@Paw maybe, but I feel like the game shouldn't discriminate against those who aren't "ready" for a map. They can run it if they want to. It is up to STS to make restrictions, such as level restrictions, points restrictions etc., but to be restricted from running pug maps by PLAYERS is a bit over the line. If people are unhappy with pugs, it's up to them to form a party - it's not the fault of those who are weaker who just want to run the map.

Paw
02-25-2018, 03:45 PM
@Paw maybe, but I feel like the game shouldn't discriminate against those who aren't "ready" for a map. They can run it if they want to. It is up to STS to make restrictions, such as level restrictions, points restrictions etc., but to be restricted from running pug maps by PLAYERS is a bit over the line. If people are unhappy with pugs, it's up to them to form a party - it's not the fault of those who are weaker who just want to run the map.

+1

Maybe your right on this one. Probably just my frustration talking. The other day we had a warrior that died in a maus map and missed the treasure room as another person in map wouldnt wait. The rest of the map the warrior just stood there talking nonsense and pulling boss so it resets. Guess it can be exploited and cause bigger issues in the long run

Suentous PO
02-25-2018, 08:48 PM
@Paw maybe, but I feel like the game shouldn't discriminate against those who aren't "ready" for a map. They can run it if they want to. It is up to STS to make restrictions, such as level restrictions, points restrictions etc., but to be restricted from running pug maps by PLAYERS is a bit over the line. If people are unhappy with pugs, it's up to them to form a party - it's not the fault of those who are weaker who just want to run the map.

One thing AL ppl don't know is that PL has had a boot option for a while if one hosts. It was never a big problem imho. Try to find a thread requesting this feature be removed.
One benefit to having a feature like that was that people either learned;
The name of the jerk who unjustly kicked u & thus who to not join or respect maybe
Or
That behavior like leaching, & not using ankhs at boss in elite runs, is simply not ok, and to step up your game.

The game makes leveling easy, learning the ropes is up to the player to get "pro"

wowdah
02-25-2018, 11:57 PM
Hmm I see, but hundreds of different scenarios of abusing it comes to mind for me, like someone could be trying their best but just weak, so party kicks, or maybe people solely join maps to boot people for fun, etc. I'm not sure.

Magemagix
02-26-2018, 08:28 AM
With the upcoming expsnsion and announced changes going forward i have decided to list a few little things looking back that i feel would benefit the AL community as a whole and address a few serious issues i personaly have faced. In no way do i inted to offend any specific player or any specific type of player, nor am i in any way suggesting my ways are better than current methods.

Will start off with a few just to get the ball rolling

Feel free to contribute with ideas and discuss in a friendly manner. Keep it clean and happy hunting


1. Leeching

Almost every day i face this issue in one form or another. People who just stay dead at bosses or dont engage with bosses leaving the others to fight without them. In organised partys its fine but in random PUG's its everywhere. In Maus, in event maps, in arena etc.

Firstly as we now have ankhs i wouldnt be against the idea of not giving loot to those who are just lying dead at boss. Either ankh or run back to boss because its not fair to those who are. Secondly would love to have a boot option where if 3 players decide unanimously to boot a player from the map, they are booted from the map and placed in town

2. Dummy farming.

As we all know this was an issue in the past and still is in some parts. The frustrating thing is that as a community we could easily police it and deal with these people ourselves. Problem is that CTF maps lock after the score reaches 4-4 leaving the farmers to farm in peace. Just leaving the map always open wont totaly stop them but will surely make it just that much harder

3. Cleaner inventory

These days i dont know myself whats in my inventory. Theres too many things to scroll past to find what you need. I know its been mentioned before but maybe grouping things together or even placing things alphabetically will help make things slightly easier

4. Pet pickups

A lot of random useless stuff is picked up by pets at times. Specialy when doing lower level maps. As ive mentioned on another thread, removing all common and rare drops and replacing them with gold drops may be a feasable option. Or adding an option where we can toggle on and off pet pickups would be a very nice addition

5. Increase Maximum Gold Limit

I wish this did apply to me but it doesnt :( . With current prices of some items rocketing past 300m+ its impossible to make these trades without a risk of being scammed. Would love to see an increase in the max limit to stop these scams happening :)

1) I like it bt it can get a little wicked lol. Imagine u r near boss nd u want to play a prank nd kick 1 player when boss hp at 10% XD

2) +1 Yup it need to be addressed asap. If its fixed maybe we can have pvp lb again.

3) Not many things can be grouped up together. Devs said its too much work. Maybe an option to "sort by" can help.

4) Imo its better as it is. At the end of 10-15runs u can easily go to inv nd quick sell as common, rare, epic stuffs nd get some gold too.

The main issue is if u replace these junk stuffs frm loot table. It effects the rng loot system alot. Loot table will only have legendary nd higher.

Also gold drop is place of low rarity items is a nono. Becoz gold drop can be multiplied with gl% leading to more inflation than now.

5) Idk abt this bt imo its ok as it is, helps to avoid mass gold sale. Also helps to avoid unnecessary inflation of rare stuffs more.
Tbh most of the rare stuffs r sold to imaginary ppl.

Imo we need these :

1. We need more cool events like the lovecraft this year. But with better point system frm boss.

2. Make way to bring back the rare vanities frm banned ppl. Idk why we need to suffer for illegal ppl who got banned :/

3. The energy drop rate should be same as this year.

4) More 250 stash place maybe? Especially becoz in lovecraft event we had to liquidate locks as they rained too much.

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Paw
02-26-2018, 12:24 PM
Really hope that something can be done about the vanities. As much as it will upset a few people, its so heartbreaking to see some amazing items becoming almost obsolete in the game. Cant remember the last time i saw an original jester or a crier set in game.

Also would love to see more farmable things like the glintstine set. Something that requires a lot of hard work and gives you a sense of achievement once you get it.

wowdah
02-26-2018, 02:17 PM
^ It's better for STS to just make new vanities that are cool so it doesn't ruin anything. Shouldn't matter if a lot of people have it or only a few if it looks stunning (like ice spirit is the best looking vanity imo).

Fyrce
02-26-2018, 03:55 PM
Actually kicking players out just before boss or just before loot has happened in other games. I would expect, if that is possible, for it to happen here as well, should such a mechanism be implemented.

I use alt toons to sort my inventory. I made a new toon yesterday because I dislike scrolling through more than about 100 of any tab for items. If I have more than 100 of an item, I would prefer it to be of one type or the same item. So I am preparing a new toon, in case I need to place one sort of item somewhere other than existing toons.

I tend to keep a leaner inventory on toons that I run in zones regularly.

Paw
02-26-2018, 04:18 PM
Actually kicking players out just before boss or just before loot has happened in other games. I would expect, if that is possible, for it to happen here as well, should such a mechanism be implemented.

I use alt toons to sort my inventory. I made a new toon yesterday because I dislike scrolling through more than about 100 of any tab for items. If I have more than 100 of an item, I would prefer it to be of one type or the same item. So I am preparing a new toon, in case I need to place one sort of item somewhere other than existing toons.

I tend to keep a leaner inventory on toons that I run in zones regularly.

As more and more things such as vanities and recipes are becoming untradable, the inventory seems to be filling up faster than ever. I really do sometimes have to go afk from boss fight for 30 seconds just to scroll down and open the correct elixirs. Even an option to re-arrange the order of the items would be so so helpful

YeaSheGamez
02-26-2018, 05:41 PM
Number 1 is not a good idea at all, you know there are times you die right before the boss and some also lag a little when they die so if they die a couple seconds before the boss does they get no loot even though they were trying.

Number 2 doesnt really matter as theres no LB for pvp, some may have different opinions but it doesnt bother me. What they do is their business unless they are breaking ToS.

Number 3/4/5 i completly agree.


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Lethoiun
02-26-2018, 07:15 PM
You can look for ideas and what people said on my expansion post

Paw
02-26-2018, 08:38 PM
Number 1 is not a good idea at all, you know there are times you die right before the boss and some also lag a little when they die so if they die a couple seconds before the boss does they get no loot even though they were trying.

Number 2 doesnt really matter as theres no LB for pvp, some may have different opinions but it doesnt bother me. What they do is their business unless they are breaking ToS.

Number 3/4/5 i completly agree.


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Why i mentioned PvP and dummy farming is because there are AP's connected to them an also PvP stats contribute towards guild leaderboards last i checked. Being someone who spent 1 year doing PvP for the AP's i just find it sad how people can do the same now in an empty room in days