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badgirlchlo
02-26-2018, 08:28 PM
This is a quote said by too many people and I want to say my opinions on it.
It is easy as ever to make gold as a new player due to maus.
Clearly with gold loot you can make more gold but after enough time you can afford these sets. Spending money in any game will give you a boost but since this has been created people really can't complain about pay to win because f2p definitely can exist in this game.
Basically what I'm saying is to stop complaining if you aren't willing to work to get something
sorry for the rant
This is a quote said by too many people and I want to say my opinions on it.
It is easy as ever to make gold as a new player due to maus.
Clearly with gold loot you can make more gold but after enough time you can afford these sets. Spending money in any game will give you a boost but since this has been created people really can't complain about pay to win because f2p definitely can exist in this game.
Basically what I'm saying is to stop complaining if you aren't willing to work to get something
sorry for the rant
Its all relative IMO. Its easier to make gold right now if ur endgame n have decent amount of gold already, but the price of everyting is really high right now too. Try making a new toon from scratch and see how easy it is. Its not as easy as u think. Just hope sts does more for new players n twinks in next expansion
Abuze
02-26-2018, 09:03 PM
Let's just go through the life of a new player:
-Make a char
-Do story daily 10 days in a row since it requires that to unlock a great part of the game IMO.
-Lvl up from 1-66 which will take a week or 3 depending on the how motivated the player is.
-After lvling up a new player needs to grind 55k maus points to get to this 'goldmine' you speak of.
-After accomplishing the 55k maus points if they haven't given up already on this game that requires way too much dedication/daily cycle most of the time they have to first run mau without gold loot to be able to grind up enough gold to buy the proper gear for mau.
Let's not forget most of us ditch ungeared pugs at m4/5 and form our own party (if I have offended anyone by saying most of us, I'm sorry but I'll admit I do this since I don't want to make a loss farming mau nor do I have all day to complete a single map).
The sheer amount of dedication and repetitive cycle that this game requires is just a turn off for new players in my eyes. I tried to get some friends to try out AL as well and they all questioned me for playing it, oh well :D
AL now a days is mostly 'interesting' to those already playing or had played it in the past.
From what I see a very small percentage of new players stick to playing AL. The reason for this being that it requires a constant dedication, I'll just bring up the latest example: Lovecraft event 2018. Unless you farmed energy for quite some time or used up gold or plat to get letters to tier up faster (which required a gold tier friend, not many new players would have one of these) it wouldn't be possible to reach plat tier. Most have made some gold back by using letters a lot but this can also go side way since you basically are gambling to loot something good.
For players that want to keep up with the game they need a constant dedication or else they will miss out on a lot. AL shouldn't be another job after the one you already.
Chlo, you said it as if it's something very easy, but it really isn't as easy as you make it seem. Yes possible but how many new players would pull through?
badgirlchlo
02-26-2018, 10:34 PM
Although I completely agree with the whole traders permit issue there is a reason for it, there are many ways to earn gold other than maus that legendary 66 gear can get you through such as elite southern gates, levelling is now MUCH easier due to xp quests and although it takes dedication all new players do have a chance
thankyou for letting me see that side though:)
I have a friend in game who started about a year ago..after 2-3 months he was farming maus..bought a glowstick. His one of the best tanks and through sheer determination, he is now ranked on the lb. Totally legit too..unlike some.
It can be done.
Alwarez
02-27-2018, 01:54 AM
I have a friend in game who started about a year ago..after 2-3 months he was farming maus..bought a glowstick. His one of the best tanks and through sheer determination, he is now ranked on the lb. Totally legit too..unlike some.
It can be done.
The reason behind that is he probably already had a person in the game willing to help him+not ditching him in mauso. New players aren't getting all kinds of support, so actual farming for them starts after even longer time. And we all know that just a pet alone is not enough to be considered in a party today.
The reason behind that is he probably already had a person in the game willing to help him+not ditching him in mauso. New players aren't getting all kinds of support, so actual farming for them starts after even longer time. And we all know that just a pet alone is not enough to be considered in a party today.Could be. I think a decent guild that helps new players learn is helpful..and a willingness to learn is also priceless.
More veteran players willing to help and less jackwads calling players "nabs" also helps.
As a community we play a part in keeping our game healthy and active...training up the next generation is to our benefit.
The ability to become rich is there.
Thewolfbull
02-27-2018, 02:26 AM
When i started playing i was using epic weapons/gear and soloing most maps because nobody wanted to run with an undergeared warrior so what I did was added everyone in every town and joined them :p then eventually joined a guild and got better gear and more friends to run with. I did the entire nekro quest solo xD just gotta put in a bit of effort at the start you will eventually get somewhere.
Xxkayakxx
02-27-2018, 02:43 AM
Took me years to get rich as a non plat player xD
Always a new weapon, new pet, new something that dried me out xD Was never able to save up.
I think that this game was never easy, and not addressed to every game player.
It’s a grind game. Aps, money, ingredients for crafting, everything in game you have to grind for. And if you like AL and don’t want to grind to achieve money, there are plats.
I also have friends that tried it out and just one was cought and now a good player. Again, not for everyone.
I think that if trading permit would be an issue, Sts would find a way to fix, as AL is one of their source of money! But....how many new players know about trading permit? You need someone to tells you 99% of the time....so maybe is not that big of an issue in terms of continue the game.
And because I am one of the people who made it.....I agree to who is saying “stop complaining and works your way out”.
Just be careful.....you could end up being stupid like me XD
PsychoNuke
02-27-2018, 04:42 AM
Hmm.. Define rich.
I don't consider myself rich, though I have all the gears and pets I wanted + a little bit of gold just stashed (because I don't see anything worth investing right now). No I am not a merch, I make gold grinding elites and events. I auction/trade my drops to get the things I want, its as simple as that. The thing is you gotta prioritize your need vs want vs luxury. It was fairly easy for me to gear up to the end game just using the gold I got from quests, events and elites. Now I do maus if I get time and the gold from that just go to my stash.
People who cry are the one who compare their progress with others, which is mere foolishness. If you do that then I think its time to ask yourself why you play the game? and if you play for yourself or to impress the unknown others around you.
Isn't every mmo grind based? F2p just have to put in the extra time to get things done. So basically currency for f2p is Time.
@Thread: There is huge difference between pay to win and pay to play, get that right.
Azerothraven
02-27-2018, 04:58 AM
New players are nab. Ofc they cant become rich soo ridiculous
New players are nab. Ofc they cant become rich soo ridiculousAttention all new players, beg Aze for gold..fastest way to become rich. [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
Let's just go through the life of a new player:
-Lvl up from 1-66 which will take a week or 3 depending on the how motivated the player is.
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YeaSheGamez
02-27-2018, 06:37 AM
There are plenty of other options other than maus you just gotta grind.
I was going to rant about this too lol, i decided not to, with my luck it would start too much drama.
+1 to this rant lol
Oh and what about those people who complain that leveling is too hard? Lol im not even going to say anything...I'll just leave this here..
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Fyrce
02-27-2018, 07:58 AM
Players calling each other names, whining at each other, etc are not going to end up being my friend, nor are they going to end up being people I play with.
However, when someone asks me a question in a normal manner, about gear or where to go next or what to do next, and give me a chance to answer, assuming I am not afk, then I answer. If they do not inexplicably morph into beggars, we will hold a conversation where I attempt to guide them to exploring the world, doing the quests (both story, side and dailies), and on how to get items while they are doing their Story Token quests.
If they make sure they pick up their Ally rewards, it will take them approx. 7-8 days to get their Traders' Permit. In the meantime, there are things they can do to farm and gear up and explore.
Besides drops in zones and quest, they can also obtain items from NPC vendors and from the game Store. Several of the token currencies have no limit as to how much one can run them a day, so they can get items that way.
Gouiwaa9000
02-27-2018, 08:10 AM
Its possible , but is it enjoyable ? no .
Right after you start the game your are presented with a 10 days period in which you can do nothing but grind exp . The grinds are waaaay to long and as a reward just give you an even harder grind . Also the fact that all of that happens in no more than 4 maps does not help in the slightest . And on top of that theres the fact that "expirienced" players will rather make fun of newbies instead of helping out . All of my friends that i invited to AL never made it to maus, longest one to stay hanged around for 2 months. Everyone had the same reason - Theres to much boring grinding and running the same maps over and over again with little rewards .
A game , especially a mmo rpg game needs a big player base . Imo sts should heavily focus on early game content even at the expense of endgame one . Most of us already know that the game is awesome and wont quit after a couple months of not getting attention XD on the other hand those who just started will .
yuyie
02-27-2018, 08:37 AM
Ofc they can be rich if.. they plat user! anything is possible!!!!
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AL is intend to be a long term game, for sure you need to work to get something, you cant start this game and have everything for free on the first day, took me at least 1 year to be a decent player, and yes you need to grind your way, many things in this game cannot be buy with plat (ex: opening mausoleum, took me 3 months to be last rank), u have to put in the time, getting a little bit more strong and rich everyday, and it go way faster if you doing so by following storyline and questline than if u stand for hours in town begging and complaining! ;)
Its possible , but is it enjoyable ? no .
Right after you start the game your are presented with a 10 days period in which you can do nothing but grind exp . The grinds are waaaay to long and as a reward just give you an even harder grind . Also the fact that all of that happens in no more than 4 maps does not help in the slightest . And on top of that theres the fact that "expirienced" players will rather make fun of newbies instead of helping out . All of my friends that i invited to AL never made it to maus, longest one to stay hanged around for 2 months. Everyone had the same reason - Theres to much boring grinding and running the same maps over and over again with little rewards .
A game , especially a mmo rpg game needs a big player base . Imo sts should heavily focus on early game content even at the expense of endgame one . Most of us already know that the game is awesome and wont quit after a couple months of not getting attention XD on the other hand those who just started will .
Couldnt agree more +100
cannedheat
02-27-2018, 10:31 AM
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Tackled
02-27-2018, 06:02 PM
Honestly you don’t know how difficult it is for them to level and you want them to ignore the whole purpose of the game just to rush to maus doesn’t sound a lot of fun to new players hint that’s why I give back
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Honestly you don’t know how difficult it is for them to level and you want them to ignore the whole purpose of the game just to rush to maus doesn’t sound a lot of fun to new players hint that’s why I give back
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkAgreed...I took my time getting to my first cap. Exploring the full game content as it was meant to be explored. Unfortunately, the xp quest payouts might level them up too fast now that they miss a lot of what attracted the old players to the game. Vengeance on all those bosses who killed you repeatedly. Vengeance! That's what kept me coming back, lol. #shuyal!
QuaseT
02-28-2018, 12:50 AM
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meowmeowmeowYe better level up young cat lady *evil laugh*
Meexii
02-28-2018, 02:34 PM
This is a quote said by too many people and I want to say my opinions on it.
It is easy as ever to make gold as a new player due to maus.
Clearly with gold loot you can make more gold but after enough time you can afford these sets. Spending money in any game will give you a boost but since this has been created people really can't complain about pay to win because f2p definitely can exist in this game.
Basically what I'm saying is to stop complaining if you aren't willing to work to get something
sorry for the rantThe point is.. what do you call rich? Are we talking about having 10m? Everyone who had that money once know that this is not rich.. there are so many thinks to buy to get op.. tell me u have 50m... i tell u its fast gone if u buy full equip on endgame pvp. So what is rich here.. there is no quick limit.
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Tackled
02-28-2018, 02:49 PM
Agreed...I took my time getting to my first cap. Exploring the full game content as it was meant to be explored. Unfortunately, the xp quest payouts might level them up too fast now that they miss a lot of what attracted the old players to the game. Vengeance on all those bosses who killed you repeatedly. Vengeance! That's what kept me coming back, lol. #shuyal!
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im jeff
02-28-2018, 03:03 PM
I remember being a noob getting laughed at etc. In the past you didnt get exp from quests so it was hard to lvl, I remember it took 2800 exp for level 29 which means you need to kill 2800 enemies. Now since you can get exp from quests its easy to make a char lv 61 in 3 days.
badgirlchlo
02-28-2018, 07:23 PM
leave it to ent to bring in a cat lolol ily boo
fozxh
02-28-2018, 08:14 PM
I just restarted and I’m finding it fun and easy to make gold
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Gamegrog
01-16-2019, 03:02 AM
To be rich one must have interest, dedication and must have patience.
He must not be a kinda guy who rage quits if the boss kills him repeatedly.
It takes a lot of time to be a good player in Al.
Rich or poor the whole game is made for the players to enjoy it.
So enjoy it.
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Encryptions
01-16-2019, 09:14 AM
Remember, everyone who is rich was poor at one time. There was no "instant rich" its like real life you choose to be poor or to be rich, its hard to live poor and it is hard to become rich. Pick the hard you want to do.
I remember not being able to afford a 50k vanity, but since I kept playing the game, doing events, merching, and much much more; I am able to afford any item in the game. Including the vanities over 100mil.
In less than 2 weeks i have bring an hardcore character to lvl58 and manage to loot some good gear along the way
(reminder: in HC mode we can't trade or use cs or stash), so yes it is possible for any ftp player to make decent gold very fast,
for big gold of course u need to put some work in it or else what would be the aim of the game??
Oakmaiden
01-16-2019, 02:14 PM
Way too much focus on leveling and gold accumulation. If you dont enjoy following the story line and doing the quests, why are you(any player)playing an rpg? Before mobiles, a person bought a game cartridge for $30-$50 and it took months to complete. Now we download an app and expect to be “Pro and rich” in a week? Try working on your delayed gratification skills and go with the flow! *spoiler- the golds not real*
QuaseT
01-16-2019, 03:23 PM
Being rich ingame doesnt mean the game is more fun... just as in real life. Its a game. Play it for the fun and for the awesome community.
oogul
01-16-2019, 03:29 PM
Because it is easy to make gold in maps now everything is higher. Because of that new players have hard time to buy the items, and this leads to a harder clearing time on any map.
Stevie Yap
01-17-2019, 11:30 PM
The only way new players to get gold are during events. Other than thar it is not possible to get nuch.
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Gamegrog
01-17-2019, 11:40 PM
There is another easy way to get gold.get to a good level and start farming for elite pirate chest or run oltgar elite for elite golden warchest.they sell pretty fast and you can earn decent money.i have seen a guy who made 1.8 mil to buy vigilant pavise weap for warrior just from farming for gold elite chest.and the fun fact is that he did not even have a lepre or a fob just running without any luck.even I did the same thing.
(All credit goes to azerothraven)
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Sasamon
01-18-2019, 02:07 AM
Being rich ingame doesnt mean the game is more fun... just as in real life. Its a game. Play it for the fun and for the awesome community.
Said one of the most rich mage in neighbourhood
Xxkayakxx
01-18-2019, 02:43 AM
Said one of the most rich mage in neighbourhood
Se he can give his point of view :)
And I agree. Once you get everything you want in game....what to do?
I personally had fun getting through my goals in AL. Now that I achieved mostly everything I wanted.....is less fun XD
Thanfully Sts providing some different content/events :)
Sasamon
01-18-2019, 09:59 AM
Se he can give his point of view :)
And I agree. Once you get everything you want in game....what to do?
I personally had fun getting through my goals in AL. Now that I achieved mostly everything I wanted.....is less fun XD
Thanfully Sts providing some different content/events :)
I'm not complaning about anything here, just sounded funny to me