Regarding Future expansion and current endgame weapons

[Alphasemana]

Indeed. A new level cap will be in the works soon. :-)


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Great to hear :) we appreciate everything sts is doing to make us happy this year! Unfortunately it seems we have more complainers than ever on forums and in game though.. there will be people very unhappy no matter what or how much is given to them. Just from talk so far it sounds like people are worried about their investments towards pure stats/hemi... Will they be rendered obsolete by whatever's next, or maybe part of the next crafting table? Obviously this could be far in the future, but I think it would be important to take this into consideration. In my opinion, it would be wise, mainly due to how expensive they are (2750 plat), to make sure the pure and even hemi keep a good chunk of significance going into the next expansion. Based on their stats alone, they probably wouldn't drop down to worthless.. but the bigger and better of what's coming could hurt that value quite a bit. I would love to hear everyone's thoughts on this, and hate to see the people who payed plat get goofed on! :)

[plpr]

Great to hear :) we appreciate everything sts is doing to make us happy this year! Unfortunately it seems we have more complainers than ever on forums and in game though.. there will be people very unhappy no matter what or how much is given to them. Just from talk so far it sounds like people are worried about their investments towards pure stats/hemi... Will they be rendered obsolete by whatever's next, or maybe part of the next crafting table? Obviously this could be far in the future, but I think it would be important to take this into consideration. In my opinion, it would be wise, mainly due to how expensive they are (2750 plat), to make sure the pure and even hemi keep a good chunk of significance going into the next expansion. Based on their stats alone, they probably wouldn't drop down to worthless.. but the bigger and better of what's coming could hurt that value quite a bit. I would love to hear everyone's thoughts on this, and hate to see the people who payed plat get goofed on! :)
What do you mean. If You payed for a pure stat weapon you got to use it in PvP or PvE whatever you paid for you got to use it. The investment was to be op and you got that and it was your choice no matter if it was for a day or for months which lucky for you the better option. I spent 2000 platinum on enchantments and that was my choice.

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[Alphasemana]

What do you mean. If You payed for a pure stat weapon you got to use it in PvP or PvE whatever you paid for you got to use it. The investment was to be op and you got that and it was your choice no matter if it was for a day or for months which lucky for you the better option. I spent 2000 platinum on enchantments and that was my choice.

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Of course it was a choice. And you are going to have to be more specific when asking what I mean.

[plpr]

Of course it was a choice. And you are going to have to be more specific when asking what I mean.
Basically what I'm saying is you paid for it and that's all that matters sts doesn't have to keep it the best weapon just because it costs alot nor should they (I think the number of endgame pvpers show why and the countless threads about it) it was meant to be ungodly op and it still will be very good I can't imagine the damage loss being a problem at all in the next cap like 56-61 71-76 etc the old weapons were still greatly useable.

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[XghostzX]

Players should not be entitled to devs deploying certain mechanisms to retain the value of a certain item. We purchase these items, we use them for the time being, and then new equipment is introduced. I don’t know why people expect the value of their items to remain stagnant. All players benefit from this economically, too. When new items are introduced, players don’t have nearly as much to spend due to a decrease in the present value of items, so prices of all items drop to accommodate for this loss. This gives new players a competing chance to obtain new items. Otherwise, the rich get richer and the poor stay poor.

Besides, I'm pretty sure at this rate STS will implement new overpriced weapons.

[Alphasemana]

Good points. Players who purchase these items are accepting the risks and not buying them to stay on top forever. Im not saying that they should be or are entitled to anything but what they have purchased. i also understand that nobody is forcing you to spend real money. What id like to see though, and again this is my opinion, is these op weaps being involved somehow in the next expansion, such as assisting in crafting. I feel if they are ditched completely, id have learned my lesson and wouldn't be very eager to drop more money on whats next.

[3pc]

Basically what the people want is the old PL the game where we didnt have to pay to be the best in PvP back then it actually required skill to win not just mashing random buttons. I understand this is the only way for the company to make big profit but its maybe not the right direction.

[Jilsponie]

People usually continue to twink at previous cap levels... that being said, they are most likely going to stay the best l100 weapon. And i believe many will stay at 100, when stat guns came around everyone could beat anyone. While many of us miss the days if skill knowledge, range, and strategy playing a role, I'm afraid many of the newer players are dependent on the luck and ridiculous auto damage and will therefore probably stick to that level... unless we have another of the same next cap of course.

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[Random mage]

Great to hear :) we appreciate everything sts is doing to make us happy this year! Unfortunately it seems we have more complainers than ever on forums and in game though.. there will be people very unhappy no matter what or how much is given to them. Just from talk so far it sounds like people are worried about their investments towards pure stats/hemi... Will they be rendered obsolete by whatever's next, or maybe part of the next crafting table? Obviously this could be far in the future, but I think it would be important to take this into consideration. In my opinion, it would be wise, mainly due to how expensive they are (2750 plat), to make sure the pure and even hemi keep a good chunk of significance going into the next expansion. Based on their stats alone, they probably wouldn't drop down to worthless.. but the bigger and better of what's coming could hurt that value quite a bit. I would love to hear everyone's thoughts on this, and hate to see the people who payed plat get goofed on! :)

Everyone complained about the stat weapons. Ive already stopped playing more and more because of how bad pvp is now. If the stat weapons are apart of the next update that will close the deal for me. Ill uninstall.

[Jilsponie]

Everyone complained about the stat weapons. Ive already stopped playing more and more because of how bad pvp is now. If the stat weapons are apart of the next update that will close the deal for me. Ill uninstall.Agreed, and i have stat weapons. But at this point player vs player is actually your roll vs my roll without skill being involved whatsoever.

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[Cinco]

With respect to PVE content, the Stat-based weapons will stay largely the same: insane damage output at crazy ranges with ridiculous bonuses when used as part of the current Level 100 'sets.'
Future item sets (again for PVE) are being designed to make item farming "interesting again," and to create more varied and desirable combinations for each class.

For PVP, the Stat-based weapons will be adjusted significantly. As I'm sure everyone on this thread is aware: there is an immense difference between Stat-based weapons' auto-damage and the auto-damage of all other weapons. Currently, each PURE weapon maintains a ~10X auto-attack advantage over all other weapons in the game (HEMI's ~6.5X damage per attack). Incoming balance changes to PVP will reduce this multiplier to something much more competitive. Stat-based weapons will continue to be the clear, best choice for auto-damage, but the landscape of competitive play will become much more level.

[XghostzX]

With respect to PVE content, the Stat-based weapons will stay largely the same: insane damage output at crazy ranges with ridiculous bonuses when used as part of the current Level 100 'sets.'
Future item sets (again for PVE) are being designed to make item farming "interesting again," and to create more varied and desirable combinations for each class.

For PVP, the Stat-based weapons will be adjusted significantly. As I'm sure everyone on this thread is aware: there is an immense difference between Stat-based weapons' auto-damage and the auto-damage of all other weapons. Currently, each PURE weapon maintains a ~10X auto-attack advantage over all other weapons in the game (HEMI's ~6.5X damage per attack). Incoming balance changes to PVP will reduce this multiplier to something much more competitive. Stat-based weapons will continue to be the clear, best choice for auto-damage, but the landscape of competitive play will become much more level.

Phew, happy to see PvP will have some work done to it. Thanks!

[Buchmeister]

Future item sets (again for PVE) are being designed to make item farming "interesting again," and to create more varied and desirable combinations for each class.

Weapon procs coming back? :o

[3pc]

With respect to PVE content, the Stat-based weapons will stay largely the same: insane damage output at crazy ranges with ridiculous bonuses when used as part of the current Level 100 'sets.'
Future item sets (again for PVE) are being designed to make item farming "interesting again," and to create more varied and desirable combinations for each class.

For PVP, the Stat-based weapons will be adjusted significantly. As I'm sure everyone on this thread is aware: there is an immense difference between Stat-based weapons' auto-damage and the auto-damage of all other weapons. Currently, each PURE weapon maintains a ~10X auto-attack advantage over all other weapons in the game (HEMI's ~6.5X damage per attack). Incoming balance changes to PVP will reduce this multiplier to something much more competitive. Stat-based weapons will continue to be the clear, best choice for auto-damage, but the landscape of competitive play will become much more level.

Thank god cinco you are here to correct the game and i like what buch said about procs its entertaining to see and own a wep that has a proc

[Random mage]

With respect to PVE content, the Stat-based weapons will stay largely the same: insane damage output at crazy ranges with ridiculous bonuses when used as part of the current Level 100 'sets.'
Future item sets (again for PVE) are being designed to make item farming "interesting again," and to create more varied and desirable combinations for each class.

For PVP, the Stat-based weapons will be adjusted significantly. As I'm sure everyone on this thread is aware: there is an immense difference between Stat-based weapons' auto-damage and the auto-damage of all other weapons. Currently, each PURE weapon maintains a ~10X auto-attack advantage over all other weapons in the game (HEMI's ~6.5X damage per attack). Incoming balance changes to PVP will reduce this multiplier to something much more competitive. Stat-based weapons will continue to be the clear, best choice for auto-damage, but the landscape of competitive play will become much more level.

Im confused as to what your trying to say. Stat weapons are staying in the game. That part i got. If stat weapons are available next cap im okay with it. As long as they are farmable. And farmable at a fair rate.

[Nipunsky]

With respect to PVE content, the Stat-based weapons will stay largely the same: insane damage output at crazy ranges with ridiculous bonuses when used as part of the current Level 100 'sets.'
Future item sets (again for PVE) are being designed to make item farming "interesting again," and to create more varied and desirable combinations for each class.

For PVP, the Stat-based weapons will be adjusted significantly. As I'm sure everyone on this thread is aware: there is an immense difference between Stat-based weapons' auto-damage and the auto-damage of all other weapons. Currently, each PURE weapon maintains a ~10X auto-attack advantage over all other weapons in the game (HEMI's ~6.5X damage per attack). Incoming balance changes to PVP will reduce this multiplier to something much more competitive. Stat-based weapons will continue to be the clear, best choice for auto-damage, but the landscape of competitive play will become much more level.Sounds dope :D can't wait

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[Card]

With respect to PVE content, the Stat-based weapons will stay largely the same: insane damage output at crazy ranges with ridiculous bonuses when used as part of the current Level 100 'sets.'
Future item sets (again for PVE) are being designed to make item farming "interesting again," and to create more varied and desirable combinations for each class.

For PVP, the Stat-based weapons will be adjusted significantly. As I'm sure everyone on this thread is aware: there is an immense difference between Stat-based weapons' auto-damage and the auto-damage of all other weapons. Currently, each PURE weapon maintains a ~10X auto-attack advantage over all other weapons in the game (HEMI's ~6.5X damage per attack). Incoming balance changes to PVP will reduce this multiplier to something much more competitive. Stat-based weapons will continue to be the clear, best choice for auto-damage, but the landscape of competitive play will become much more level.

great really excited!

[Cinco]

Im confused as to what your trying to say. Stat weapons are staying in the game. That part i got. If stat weapons are available next cap im okay with it. As long as they are farmable. And farmable at a fair rate.

I did not mention anything about farming stat weapons; I was just indicating that the damage per shot in PVP is going to be adjusted :-)

[XghostzX]

I did not mention anything about farming stat weapons; I was just indicating that the damage per shot in PVP is going to be adjusted :-)

While that’s worked on, can you also considering fixing heal spells? On my mage (endgame equipment) if I use heal, it replenishes a very small amount of health points. If I’m low on health, all I have to do is switch to a lower level set (the L75 Fiery set, for example), press heal once and then I’m fully healed (forcing users to switch back and forth between sets). I know it was not intended to play the game like this. This can be fixed by just significantly raising heal for all classes.

[Random mage]

I did not mention anything about farming stat weapons; I was just indicating that the damage per shot in PVP is going to be adjusted :-)

So what happens when new gear come out! New weapons wont come out either? Or what about when a new cap comes. Is stat weapons still going to be the best.

[Hybridull]

With respect to PVE content, the Stat-based weapons will stay largely the same: insane damage output at crazy ranges with ridiculous bonuses when used as part of the current Level 100 'sets.'
Future item sets (again for PVE) are being designed to make item farming "interesting again," and to create more varied and desirable combinations for each class.

For PVP, the Stat-based weapons will be adjusted significantly. As I'm sure everyone on this thread is aware: there is an immense difference between Stat-based weapons' auto-damage and the auto-damage of all other weapons. Currently, each PURE weapon maintains a ~10X auto-attack advantage over all other weapons in the game (HEMI's ~6.5X damage per attack). Incoming balance changes to PVP will reduce this multiplier to something much more competitive. Stat-based weapons will continue to be the clear, best choice for auto-damage, but the landscape of competitive play will become much more level.I have to say that this cap is so unbalanced because of the crazy dmg of guns.I hope next cap you bring new Sets and new weapons(not guns).Like a Bow Of Phoenix but blue colour for bird full dex requirments,hammer like 76 cap but blue and scythe(Yes pls bring back the scythe pvp) too fun.

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[plpr]

maybe my standards are too high. But it would be cool to see some new weapons. And maps.


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[Hybridull]

maybe my standards are too high. But it would be cool to see some new weapons. And maps.


Sent from my iPad using TapatalkYeah bro.Scythe weapon should be added to endgame.

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[Jilsponie]

Yeah bro.Scythe weapon should be added to endgame.

Sent from my Lenovo TB2-X30F using TapatalkLol y'all worried about the names of the weapons, they can call the next str weapon a ineedthiscuzimlame and I'll be happy if it's balanced.

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[Hybridull]

Lol y'all worried about the names of the weapons, they can call the next str weapon a ineedthiscuzimlame and I'll be happy if it's balanced.

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[3pc]

While that’s worked on, can you also considering fixing heal spells? On my mage (endgame equipment) if I use heal, it replenishes a very small amount of health points. If I’m low on health, all I have to do is switch to a lower level set (the L75 Fiery set, for example), press heal once and then I’m fully healed (forcing users to switch back and forth between sets). I know it was not intended to play the game like this. This can be fixed by just significantly raising heal for all classes.

Not only heal for mage just the regen in general

[Buchmeister]

I did not mention anything about farming stat weapons; I was just indicating that the damage per shot in PVP is going to be adjusted :-)

I do not care in the slightest if you make the pay to win again in the next expansion. I only ask for new content and gear... the reskins and assets from other STS games are getting really old.

[Mine AGK]

I do not care in the slightest if you make the pay to win again in the next expansion. I only ask for new content and gear... the reskins and assets from other STS games are getting really old.

I could care less if its p2w or even reskins. The fact that pve is boring and no one does it now because 1. The drops are hard to get for very little gold. 2. Cant get parties going like 76 slayer had. 3. No elite map or map requiring bear/bird/mage or any combination of teamwork.

Would love to see another elite map that requires teamwork but at the same time still requires dev/psyko for damage output. Cinco already said the new cap will make farming "interesting again" i love seeing that we actually get pve back to being fun again or even interesting. Even a reskin of 61 cap with demo sets having different color demonic set bonuses per class. Blue(mage) yellow(bird) pink(rhino) white(fox) green(bear). 56 would also be a great remake as a new cap. So many things could be fixed too since some of the crafted 55 sets dont get certain set bonuses with 1h or 2h items.

[gwdownunder]

Stat weapons will probably remain the best auto attack weapon in the game.

[itstrunks]

I could care less if its p2w or even reskins. The fact that pve is boring and no one does it now because 1. The drops are hard to get for very little gold. 2. Cant get parties going like 76 slayer had. 3. No elite map or map requiring bear/bird/mage or any combination of teamwork.

Would love to see another elite map that requires teamwork but at the same time still requires dev/psyko for damage output. Cinco already said the new cap will make farming "interesting again" i love seeing that we actually get pve back to being fun again or even interesting. Even a reskin of 61 cap with demo sets having different color demonic set bonuses per class. Blue(mage) yellow(bird) pink(rhino) white(fox) green(bear). 56 would also be a great remake as a new cap. So many things could be fixed too since some of the crafted 55 sets dont get certain set bonuses with 1h or 2h items.

Agree with this x100

[Nipunsky]

I could care less if its p2w or even reskins. The fact that pve is boring and no one does it now because 1. The drops are hard to get for very little gold. 2. Cant get parties going like 76 slayer had. 3. No elite map or map requiring bear/bird/mage or any combination of teamwork.

Would love to see another elite map that requires teamwork but at the same time still requires dev/psyko for damage output. Cinco already said the new cap will make farming "interesting again" i love seeing that we actually get pve back to being fun again or even interesting. Even a reskin of 61 cap with demo sets having different color demonic set bonuses per class. Blue(mage) yellow(bird) pink(rhino) white(fox) green(bear). 56 would also be a great remake as a new cap. So many things could be fixed too since some of the crafted 55 sets dont get certain set bonuses with 1h or 2h items.YES +100 FROM ME

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[Jilsponie]

Personally I'd like to see a turn away from the pay to win theme... enchantments are going to make a pay to win aspect to every level 30+ now anyway.

I know over the years I've spent the most platinum buying elixirs for reroll and leveling. The pve community is much larger than the pvp community as well. I can only imagine that with that update that gave everyone combos every single day the company saw a drop in income due to nobody needing elixirs anymore for reroll.

That being said, if i logged in tomorrow and got a xp armor or damage blessing i wouldn't mind...

It seems to me this would be a good balance of income for the company, and a active community.

Pve players love farming for those big $$ items, and recently the most valuable items gear wise were not even farmable. The fact that they had to be purchased with platinum extremely limited the availability to the community as a whole, having the inadvertent effect of driving players away from endgame, or away from pl altogether. People lose interest fast nowadays and waiting for pure stats to get into circulation even for those that could afford to buy them with gold was extremely discouraging.

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