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imdoof
05-07-2018, 05:22 PM
Not even with a deer?
Not even with a steer?
Not even in a year
Even if he sheds a tear
I would not share
For i do not care

Draebatad
05-07-2018, 05:23 PM
Seems like content suited to the off topic forums. Entirely irrelevant to this thread.

Jensmage
05-07-2018, 05:26 PM
Amusing if you're trolling, yes. Hindsight is always 20/20.


Trolling/Delusion... which one is it? Chance of a good competition or a difficult one? Keep changing your mind. Delusion with some pork...

Random mage
05-07-2018, 05:26 PM
Not even in a year
Even if he sheds a tear
I would not share
For i do not care

Oh please oh please.
Oh dear oh dear.
Please just share
He thinks its unfair

imdoof
05-07-2018, 05:26 PM
Seems like content suited to the off topic forums. Entirely irrelevant to this thread.
This content is part of this thread
I think you better head off to bed
Come sit in my lap
Take a nap
You'll feel better in the end

imdoof
05-07-2018, 05:32 PM
Oh please oh please.
Oh dear oh dear.
Please just share
He thinks its unfair
But why oh why would i share
I would not share with a hare
I would not share at a fair
He could even stare
I would not give him a pear

Random mage
05-07-2018, 05:33 PM
This content is part of this thread
I think you better head off to bed
Come sit in my lap
Take a nap
You'll feel better in the end

Perhaps he hurt his fragile head
I hope he feels better, now off to bed
Before you go this must be said
Is your real name really Ned?

Jilsponie
05-07-2018, 05:35 PM
Oh snap you just got served!
Seems like content suited to the off topic forums. Entirely irrelevant to this thread.

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imdoof
05-07-2018, 05:37 PM
Perhaps he hurt his fragile head
I hope he feels better, now off to bed
Before you go this must be said
Is your real name really Ned?
Perhaps my name may be Ned
But if his name is the same
I think I'll change to Ted instead
I know this will cause him lots of dread
But that's why I bought him this loaf of bread

plpr
05-07-2018, 05:39 PM
This is starting to remind me of humania

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Jilsponie
05-07-2018, 05:41 PM
This is starting to remind me of humania

Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using TapatalkBut can you honestly deny, that when you are bored, humania can be extremely entertaining?

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Random mage
05-07-2018, 05:43 PM
Perhaps my name may be Ned
But if his name is the same
I think I'll change to Ted instead
I know this will cause him lots of dread
But that's why I bought him this loaf of bread

surely he wont mind
soon he will find
that nobody knows his name, its undefined.

Draebatad
05-07-2018, 05:50 PM
This is starting to remind me of humania

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Yes, the lack of moderation has derailed this topic for the time being.

Random mage
05-07-2018, 05:53 PM
Yes, the lack of moderation has derailed this topic for the time being.

what are you meaning?
you saying "delusion has its perks" is all i was seeing.
you derail the thread
and now your retreating.

imdoof
05-07-2018, 06:02 PM
Yes, the lack of moderation has derailed this topic for the time being.
For the time being?
Surely, you're not seeing
Open your eyes
It's no disguise
Use your head
You also derailed this thread
As I said, please go to bed

MOLYA
05-07-2018, 06:06 PM
hmm..what's this!?i've been offline for a month and i want to come back again..after this last update theres some ads apear when i want to go in game it wont let me get inside and it keep stuck at loading.....

Random mage
05-07-2018, 06:09 PM
For the time being?
Surely, you're not seeing
Open your eyes
It's no disguise
Use your head
You also derailed this thread
As I said, please go to bed

perhaps he is feeling dreary
Or maybe even weary
could it be old age?
but i think he is only thirty
i could be wrong about this
but its just my theory.

Trenton
05-07-2018, 06:37 PM
Omg guys stop

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Draebatad
05-07-2018, 07:02 PM
hmm..what's this!?i've been offline for a month and i want to come back again..after this last update theres some ads apear when i want to go in game it wont let me get inside and it keep stuck at loading.....

I would suggest that you delete the PL app and reinstall it. And welcome back!

Nipunsky
05-07-2018, 07:20 PM
@Jilsponie .. different play styles for everyone ... 2m is a “horde” to me ( and the majority of Players) ... I couldn’t buy it that’s the definition of a “horde” to most.
It’s going to be interesting to see how many can buy it and therefore how much gold it takes out of the game ...ImrandyI agree with you. I'm also super duper low on gold. It's a farming event for me too. I won't be able to afford the white drag set even if i get a chance to buy it

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Onebigsmurfmello
05-07-2018, 09:00 PM
What Spacetime Studios needs to do is make it so you can only speak a maximum of 5 times on the same thread to give others a chance to speak and limit select few people running the forums cough cough.....

Draebatad
05-07-2018, 09:20 PM
That wouldn't work out very well. Forums are a place of sharing information, discussion and debate. Moderators play a role in keeping things tidy and under control. The only ones who lose their voice are the banned.

Duckypowerz
05-07-2018, 10:19 PM
I’d like to make two statements one about the guilds and one about the gold complaints. So I keep seeing people complain that everyone went to one guild, this may be true BUT it has brought the community together maybe not in the intended way but it did bring us together even if it is for a short time. ALSO I find it very ironic that people in reborn (tron) are complaining because if this was 76 cap when you had the most people I’m sure you wouldn’t see people saying that’s its not fair from that guild. Now for the gold issue people need to realize it’s legit just economics, look at the real world there’s rich, poor, and people in the middle Just like in pl there’s no issue with people being too rich cause compare the fact that you can make more money in pl faster than people make irl( yes it’s a game Ik that) yet NO one has accumulated the amount of wealth people have in real life like 80b in cash as where the most is maybe one person with 10b or so. So there is nothing wrong with the amount of gold in circulation it’s just how the economy is these days just like real life.

Draebatad
05-07-2018, 11:18 PM
Ducky,

Tron isn't reborn. Reborn isn't Tron.

Any complaints about the event are that it was intended to be a fun and challenging guild VS guild competition, not exploited to the point of not being a competition at all. There are metrics that could be added to make this a real guild VS guild event.

Your comments regarding the PL economy and balance of the gold sink VS new gold entering the game come across as uninformed.

Holyfuryzz
05-08-2018, 12:06 AM
Great content! (A big thanks to the Devs for staying active and planning out events!!)

But tricky delivery... I only say this due to the massive amount of feedback here and in game.. and in some cases the feedback and expression of opinion can lead to heated debate.

A live event is great, though from what I've read and seen, it will lack the competitive atmosphere that it should have due to many players joining the larger guilds to reap the rewards..

It would be nice to see that competitive spirit restored so that all guilds; small or large, pve or pvp based, English speaking or foreign, may feel they have a fair chance. This in turn would motivate all players to actually get active and play hard, rather than let just letting sheer numbers speak for themselves.

- Hopefully there is a way to make the guild event fun and competitive! Just a few thoughts, thanks again!

Waug
05-08-2018, 12:16 AM
...Now for the gold issue people need to realize it’s legit just economics, look at the real world there’s rich, poor, and people in the middle Just like in pl there’s no issue with people being too rich cause compare the fact that you can make more money in pl faster than people make irl( yes it’s a game Ik that) yet NO one has accumulated the amount of wealth people have in real life like 80b in cash as where the most is maybe one person with 10b or so. So there is nothing wrong with the amount of gold in circulation it’s just how the economy is these days just like real life.
Absolutely there's no problem ppl being rich, middle, poor etc and neither if some too rich, they've earned it (if genuine way) they deserve it. but IDK why ppl tends to compare it with irl in an exact way, here in pl nobody run an industry lel, creating thousand of jobs & making billion for just an small example, neither PL is a real life simulator. Here in pl, virtual economic works different way and need different approach as well.

Mine AGK
05-08-2018, 01:22 AM
I’d like to make two statements one about the guilds and one about the gold complaints. So I keep seeing people complain that everyone went to one guild, this may be true BUT it has brought the community together maybe not in the intended way but it did bring us together even if it is for a short time. ALSO I find it very ironic that people in reborn (tron) are complaining because if this was 76 cap when you had the most people I’m sure you wouldn’t see people saying that’s its not fair from that guild. Now for the gold issue people need to realize it’s legit just economics, look at the real world there’s rich, poor, and people in the middle Just like in pl there’s no issue with people being too rich cause compare the fact that you can make more money in pl faster than people make irl( yes it’s a game Ik that) yet NO one has accumulated the amount of wealth people have in real life like 80b in cash as where the most is maybe one person with 10b or so. So there is nothing wrong with the amount of gold in circulation it’s just how the economy is these days just like real life.

The whole intention of what this event was for, is a guild vs guild, winner take all. Reborn doesnt care who wins. The fact is, its no longer a competition due to the fact of ALL. active players joining one guild which completely defeats the competition part that was intended for the event. Alot of people in reborn actually wanted to face off against bigger guilds for the fun of it. NONE OF THE GUILDS STAND A CHANCE vs a guild that gained ALL of the active members from way smaller guilds. Its exloitation and not "working as a community"

Jensmage
05-08-2018, 01:47 AM
-Players ask for white dragon set, there you go.

-Ask for acquiring weapons and amulet easier...there you go.

-Ask for some competition. It’s not perfect but better than nothing...there you go.

Stop complaining and just play the game. Be happy we are receiving updates.

Waug
05-08-2018, 02:47 AM
For the time being?
Surely, you're not seeing
Open your eyes
It's no disguise
Use your head
You also derailed this thread
As I said, please go to bed

Hilarious ..............

SuperGotenks
05-08-2018, 10:42 AM
The whole intention of what this event was for, is a guild vs guild, winner take all. Reborn doesnt care who wins. The fact is, its no longer a competition due to the fact of ALL. active players joining one guild which completely defeats the competition part that was intended for the event. Alot of people in reborn actually wanted to face off against bigger guilds for the fun of it. NONE OF THE GUILDS STAND A CHANCE vs a guild that gained ALL of the active members from way smaller guilds. Its exloitation and not "working as a community"

Prior to joining one guild as a community, the only two guilds that had a chance at winning were Reborn and Pocket Community. When Drae saw small guilds coming together as one to have a chance, only then did he deem it unfair. In my view, it isn't exploitation at all. Maybe Reborn should've thought about the implications that came with not accepting many members. Funny how people only complain when things don't go their way.

Muzzling
05-08-2018, 11:38 AM
Prior to joining one guild as a community, the only two guilds that had a chance at winning were Reborn and Pocket Community. When Drae saw small guilds coming together as one to have a chance, only then did he deem it unfair. In my view, it isn't exploitation at all. Maybe Reborn should've thought about the implications that came with not accepting many members. Funny how people only complain when things don't go their way.

Well said, earlier when drae knew only 2 guilds had a chance he acted like any guild could win, then it suddenly became unfair when he realized that he was outnumbered, in my opinion theres nothing wrong with joining a new guild for an event because in the long run only 2 had a chance to begin with thats why everyone merged.

Alphasemana
05-08-2018, 11:52 AM
Almost everyone complaining about how PC will win has a toon in PC. If, instead of complaining, you all came together and formed your own guild to rival these massive guilds, it would be different. The size of said top guilds gave them the advantage, not the win. You gave them the win.

Mine AGK
05-08-2018, 12:04 PM
Well said, earlier when drae knew only 2 guilds had a chance he acted like any guild could win, then it suddenly became unfair when he realized that he was outnumbered, in my opinion theres nothing wrong with joining a new guild for an event because in the long run only 2 had a chance to begin with thats why everyone merged.

Actually any of the guilds could have won before anyone even joined PC. Its based on member activity, not on size. This is open to all levels and not just 105, but its okay muzzling. Everyone can keep taking shots at drae/reborn. We didnt open our doors for a reason for this event.

SuperGotenks
05-08-2018, 01:38 PM
Actually any of the guilds could have won before anyone even joined PC. Its based on member activity, not on size. This is open to all levels and not just 105, but its okay muzzling. Everyone can keep taking shots at drae/reborn. We didnt open our doors for a reason for this event.

Go get your guild active and win then.

Mine AGK
05-08-2018, 02:07 PM
Lol literally took those words out of context to fit that narrative. Gg. As the first sentence states. "Any of the guilds could have won BEFORE anyone joined PC" This was implying that i was talking BEFORE everyone started joining PC and completely defeating the purpose of a guild vs guild competition.

Oby
05-08-2018, 02:14 PM
Thanks StS for the gold farming opportunity! This will definitely allow the event to reach out to a larger percentage of the games population.

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SuperGotenks
05-08-2018, 02:19 PM
Lol literally took those words out of context to fit that narrative. Gg. As the first sentence states. "Reborn could have won BEFORE anyone joined PC" This was implying that i was talking BEFORE everyone started joining PC and completely defeating the purpose of a guild vs guild competition.

I fixed your post for you.

Draebatad
05-08-2018, 02:20 PM
... everyone merged.

Everyone merged because the game designers failed to put in place counter measures that would have forced this to be a real guild VS guild competition. If they had not intended for this to be a competitive tournament they would not have put up a guild leaderboard to track guild vs guild progress. There is no competition. The concept of this event has been broken. Fault lies both with the studio for not ensuring this was truly fair for all guilds and with the players who have fully exploited this event. Shame on both.

Oby
05-08-2018, 02:22 PM
Everyone merged because the game designers failed to put in place counter measures that would have forced this to be a real guild VS guild competition. If they had not intended for this to be a competitive tournament they would not have put up a guild leaderboard to track guild vs guild progress. There is no competition. The concept of this event has been broken. Fault lies both with the studio for not ensuring this was truly fair for all guilds and with the players who have fully exploited this event. Shame on both.Like this?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180508/aebc851b58add09118aaafa68ce1af5d.jpg

pcguild.wix.com/guild

Mine AGK
05-08-2018, 02:34 PM
I fixed your post for you.

Lol any guild could have won. Not just reborn. Reborn wanted to actually have a copetition with ALL guilds. It was something actually fun to look forward to. Thats ruined when everyone joined PC. Everyone keeps saying reborn is salty that we wont win. Very far from the truth. As the intetions of the even were to be a guild vs guild COMPETITION, not a 1 vs EVERYONE else. Everyone in reborn looked forward to having to battle it out vs ANY of the other guilds that planned on participating heavily in the event PRIOR to the EXPLOITATION.

The fact that this thread for an INTENDED guild vs guild COMPETITION has turned into taking shots at reborn for stating the obvious EXPLOITATION AFTER everyone started joining PC is funny. Saying we are salty that we arent gonna win. The first people to make posts on this thread about it being even, were those that didnt intend ALL of the noobs that either play for a bit, then become inactive guilds, or the people that just enjoy hating on others guilds just because its "fun", to join 1 guild to ruin the WHOLE basis of COMPETITION.

Several people from OG guilds only joined pc because they were either refused entry into Reborn, or because they otherwise wouldnt have otherwise had a chance at the new white dragon set. Once again this defeats the WHOLE purpose of COMPETITION. Thats like putting ALL but a handful of players on 1 football team, and expecting the outcome to be "FAIR". There is competition in sports, and measures to ENSURE even competition for EVERYONE.

SuperGotenks
05-08-2018, 03:23 PM
Lol any guild could have won. Not just reborn. Reborn wanted to actually have a copetition with ALL guilds. It was something actually fun to look forward to. Thats ruined when everyone joined PC. Everyone keeps saying reborn is salty that we wont win. Very far from the truth. As the intetions of the even were to be a guild vs guild COMPETITION, not a 1 vs EVERYONE else. Everyone in reborn looked forward to having to battle it out vs ANY of the other guilds that planned on participating heavily in the event PRIOR to the EXPLOITATION.

The fact that this thread for an INTENDED guild vs guild COMPETITION has turned into taking shots at reborn for stating the obvious EXPLOITATION AFTER everyone started joining PC is funny. Saying we are salty that we arent gonna win. The first people to make posts on this thread about it being even, were those that didnt intend ALL of the noobs that either play for a bit, then become inactive guilds, or the people that just enjoy hating on others guilds just because its "fun", to join 1 guild to ruin the WHOLE basis of COMPETITION.

Several people from OG guilds only joined pc because they were either refused entry into Reborn, or because they otherwise wouldnt have otherwise had a chance at the new white dragon set. Once again this defeats the WHOLE purpose of COMPETITION. Thats like putting ALL but a handful of players on 1 football team, and expecting the outcome to be "FAIR". There is competition in sports, and measures to ENSURE even competition for EVERYONE.

You just contradicted yourself in the same post.

Mine AGK
05-08-2018, 04:53 PM
You just contradicted yourself in the same post.

Doing exactly what everyone else has been doing. Picking 1 line and saying that im contradicting and/or wrong.


Once again. You must not have seen the word "could". If im not mistaken, "could" is past tense? Meaning this was BEFORE EXPLOITATION.

One flaw in everyones states about reborn having a chance to win BEFORE EXPLOITATION, was the fact that most of reborns caps are from the plat purchasers in the guild. Our top 5 officers have 20+ caps each. Officers alts and others alts are what makeup the majority of Reborns 300 or so members. All hand picked by officers/GM because of past friendships. This avoids all the spys and all the noobs that continue to seek to destroy and hate on the guild, exactly the problem tron had with accepting nearly anyone.

Youre also reading into my statement when i said "several people from OG guilds are joining PC because they were refused entry into Reborn, or because they otherwise wouldnt have had a chance at the new white dragon set". Restoration and apex are examples of this. The majority of restoration are plat purchasers. Though they are picky on who they let into their guild. The guild only really dies when Dolloway takes a break from PL. They had a chance at winning BEFORE EXPLOITATION. Plat purchases would have let them kill faster with psyko/thrasher/pure stats and they all would have had their own solo games.

Apex is mainly a pvp guild and barely does any farming anymore. Since 76 cap i have barely seen apex farm constantly for new gear or just to make gold. They mainly just get geared up for pvp. The guild takes a down turn when Cold decides to disappear just the same way Dolloway does from restoration.

Now im not assuming they are bored of the game or just hate the game because of lack of updates, but this is one reason why their guilds die and arent active like they USED to be. This does not mean that their guilds dont become active AGAIN when there is a new update because i know for a fact restorations pops up everywhere when new caps/events happen.

With this new update that introduced, AT LAST, the new White dragon vanity set. This created a ton of activity in inactive guilds such as apex and restoration. With that activity, ANY guild COULD have won BEFORE EXPLOITATION of the guild vs guild INTENDED competition.

OneLeft
05-08-2018, 05:07 PM
What other guilds stood a chance in this event other than pc and reborn? The leaderboards before this event went pc 178, reborn 166, infinitum 38, restoration 25 look at the HUGE disadvantages of the other guilds it would have been a 2 guild event and quit saying it wouldnt have been. The other guilds chose to merge with pc not because they were refused entry into reborn. But because pc is a much friendlier place and we want them to beat reborn. Who would want to see MINE AGK win this event? Nobody is the answer

Jilsponie
05-08-2018, 05:16 PM
Ducky,

Tron isn't reborn. Reborn isn't Tron.

Any complaints about the event are that it was intended to be a fun and challenging guild VS guild competition, not exploited to the point of not being a competition at all. There are metrics that could be added to make this a real guild VS guild event.

Your comments regarding the PL economy and balance of the gold sink VS new gold entering the game come across as uninformed.Uninformed? Scroll up and read Cinco's post again... this is basic economics like i was trying to explain before... just like i was trying to explain before, guilds would be excluded from the event and you disagreed with that until you realized your guild would be excluded too lol

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Draebatad
05-08-2018, 05:18 PM
The absence of counter measures and better game mechanics ensuring it's a far and balanced event for all guilds, which appears to be the situation today, will result in no challenge and no competition, hence the exploitation resulting in a one guild event. This really should be an event open to all players, the guild element should be entirely removed because it's broken. However, that apparently is not going to happen.

Mine AGK
05-08-2018, 05:26 PM
What other guilds stood a chance in this event other than pc and reborn? The leaderboards before this event went pc 178, reborn 166, infinitum 38, restoration 25 look at the HUGE disadvantages of the other guilds it would have been a 2 guild event and quit saying it wouldnt have been. The other guilds chose to merge with pc not because they were refused entry into reborn. But because pc is a much friendlier place and we want them to beat reborn. Who would want to see MINE AGK win this event? Nobody is the answer

"One flaw in everyones states about reborn having a chance to win BEFORE EXPLOITATION, was the fact that most of reborns caps are from the plat purchasers in the guild. Our top 5 officers have 20+ caps each. Officers alts and others alts are what makeup the majority of Reborns 300 or so members. All hand picked by officers/GM because of past friendships. This avoids all the spys and all the noobs that continue to seek to destroy and hate on the guild, exactly the problem tron had with accepting nearly anyone."



Did you literally miss that in my whole post? 60-70% of our caps are from our plat purchasers alone. 5 people cant play that many 80+ caps at once. Stop trying to continue to say that "reborn has (number of caps) and has a better advantage over everyone else." Several of our other members have 3-5 caps and some have a few more. We have a total of 282 members, the majority are alts. Id estimate our total amount of people that would have had a chance to participate in this event is around 20-30 people max. Maybe even less from our guild. Thats not even a huge advantage that everyone is assuming we have over anyone on the LB lower then us.

Lol you say that you want to see PC win and not reborn? This is exactly what this event does. Its divisive, its not bringing the community together. Its making a certain group of people hate another group of people and more less make one group of people think their better. Exactly why people started suggesting the top 25 in each guild should have access to this vendor BEFORE EXPLOITATION.

3pc
05-08-2018, 05:34 PM
Ducky,

Tron isn't reborn. Reborn isn't Tron.

Any complaints about the event are that it was intended to be a fun and challenging guild VS guild competition, not exploited to the point of not being a competition at all. There are metrics that could be added to make this a real guild VS guild event.

Your comments regarding the PL economy and balance of the gold sink VS new gold entering the game come across as uninformed.

Drae you were very excited about this event at first lol all about guild vs guild but then you saw how big PC got and backed out like chill out you want a top 50 competition now because you know you wont be able to win anymore when everyone merged into PC and because you decided to close recruitment into your guild. You had every chance to make your guild grow like PC but you chose to close recruitment for your guild so it sounds more like a personal problem. You only want top 50 or something like that because you got the most free time in the world then anyone in the game so your guaranteed to win just like PC is because you didn't recruit more members even from the first announcement of this event.

Jensmage
05-08-2018, 05:38 PM
"One flaw in everyones states about reborn having a chance to win BEFORE EXPLOITATION, was the fact that most of reborns caps are from the plat purchasers in the guild. Our top 5 officers have 20+ caps each. Officers alts and others alts are what makeup the majority of Reborns 300 or so members. All hand picked by officers/GM because of past friendships. This avoids all the spys and all the noobs that continue to seek to destroy and hate on the guild, exactly the problem tron had with accepting nearly anyone."



Did you literally miss that in my whole post? 60-70% of our caps are from our plat purchasers alone. 5 people cant play that many 80+ caps at once. Stop trying to continue to say that "reborn has (number of caps) and has a better advantage over everyone else." Several of our other members have 3-5 caps and some have a few more. We have a total of 282 members, the majority are alts. Id estimate our total amount of people that would have had a chance to participate in this event is around 20-30 people max. Maybe even less from our guild. Thats not even a huge advantage that everyone is assuming we have over anyone on the LB lower then us.

Lol you say that you want to see PC win and not reborn? This is exactly what this event does. Its divisive, its not bringing the community together. Its making a certain group of people hate another group of people and more less make one group of people think their better. Exactly why people started suggesting the top 25 in each guild should have access to this vendor BEFORE EXPLOITATION.



Let me guess that you're for Reborn guild. Any guild has a chance to win. Guild numbers do not matter much because a player can have 3 or more chars in the guild. What matter is the number of active players that will actually farm. 10 active players in a guild can beat 100 player easily. 100 is a number that doesn't actually represent the total number of players.

Can we talk about the drop rates on the dragon sets and items? how many items and dragon sets can I purchase with gold. Is there a limit? Those are the questions we should be asking. :)

Not sure if stat guns l100 are any good @ l105.

Draebatad
05-08-2018, 05:40 PM
Uninformed? Scroll up and read Cinco's post again... this is basic economics like i was trying to explain before... just like i was trying to explain before, guilds would be excluded from the event and you disagreed with that until you realized your guild would be excluded too lol

Indeed uninformed. It's not a coincidence that Cinco added a gold event after consideration of what has been said here in regards to a balance between gold sinks and access to new currency entering the game.

As far as the guild event, I believe that has been sufficiently debated and points have been made to show that the event has ended up flawed and that there is in the end, no element of a guild VS guild competition whatsoever, due to a lack of metrics to ensure that it would be a fair and balanced event for all guilds in the game. It's also noteworthy that you and everyone who is benefiting from the exploitation of this event were originally against it, but now you're all very happy with taking advantage of weaknesses in the design of what was supposed to be a guild VS guild event. Had this been done correctly, every guild would have a fair chance and this would truly be a guild VS guild competition. That is what my expectations were to begin with. That however, is clearly not the case.

Easily solve the problem by making this an event open to all players. Change the guild event into a player based competition, something you and your allies suggested very early on. It's a great idea. I'm for it. It's not too late for this to happen.

Mine AGK
05-08-2018, 05:44 PM
Drae you were very excited about this event at first lol all about guild vs guild but then you saw how big PC got and backed out like chill out you want a top 50 competition now because you know you wont be able to win anymore when everyone merged into PC and because you decided to close recruitment into your guild. You had every chance to make your guild grow like PC but you chose to close recruitment for your guild so it sounds more like a personal problem. You only want top 50 or something like that because you got the most free time in the world then anyone in the game so your guaranteed to win just like PC is because you didn't recruit more members even from the first announcement of this event.

Literally everyone who posted saying anyone guild COULD win, said it BEFORE EXPLOITATION of the event. We are calling it what it is, EXPLOITATION.

When we first made reborn. We had already made up our mind to make it a close guild and pick and choose who we let in because of spies and people just trying to destroy it like tron.
Read what i already said about our members being the majority of alts and most of our caps being from our main 5 officers. Not to mention the rest of our members have 3-5 and some a bit more. A few people have 1.

Exactly why you left family to join PC Tony. Your guild is dead since joepally rage quit PL during 100 cap. 85-95% of the people who have joined pc, will go back to their own guilds after they get what they want.

Jensmage
05-08-2018, 05:44 PM
Drae you were very excited about this event at first lol all about guild vs guild but then you saw how big PC got and backed out like chill out you want a top 50 competition now because you know you wont be able to win anymore when everyone merged into PC and because you decided to close recruitment into your guild. You had every chance to make your guild grow like PC but you chose to close recruitment for your guild so it sounds more like a personal problem. You only want top 50 or something like that because you got the most free time in the world then anyone in the game so your guaranteed to win just like PC is because you didn't recruit more members even from the first announcement of this event.


I don't think STS should not alter the rules to this event. Some thought it was a benefit to them to have the rules as is. Should have been careful on the statements.



"Seems to me any guild could win, as long as they play and play and play. Regardless of current leaderboard status... It's more of an activity challenge? I can see a guild not even on the top guild board having a chance at it. Is it just me?" - Draebatad

Mine AGK
05-08-2018, 05:50 PM
I don't think STS should not alter the rules to this event. Some thought it was a benefit to them to have the rules as is. Should have been careful on the statements.



"Seems to me any guild could win, as long as they play and play and play. Regardless of current leaderboard status... It's more of an activity challenge? I can see a guild not even on the top guild board having a chance at it. Is it just me?" - Draebatad

Thats BEFORE EVERY SINGLE active member joined PC because reborn is a closed guild. At this point it is nowa disadvantage for EVERYONE, not just reborn.
Once again, reborn wanted a competition to face off vs other guilds BEFORE EXPLOITATION.

Jilsponie
05-08-2018, 05:56 PM
Thats BEFORE EVERY SINGLE active member joined PC because reborn is a closed guild. At this point it is nowa disadvantage for EVERYONE, not just reborn.
Once again, reborn wanted a competition to face off vs other guilds BEFORE EXPLOITATION.So when you had a nearly 150 advantage vs everyone but PC it was.... Fair? And now that you have the same approximate disadvantage of 150 105s it's.... unfair?

Ok got ya, double standard recognized lol this is called hypocrisy btw, and people typically don't like it lol https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180508/cda5b7280037c147223b009a67d02851.jpg

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Mine AGK
05-08-2018, 05:59 PM
So when you had a nearly 150 advantage vs everyone but PC it was.... Fair? And now that you have the same approximate disadvantage of 150 105s it's.... unfair?

Ok got ya, double standard recognized lol this is called hypocrisy btw, and people typically don't like it lol https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180508/cda5b7280037c147223b009a67d02851.jpg

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"One flaw in everyones states about reborn having a chance to win BEFORE EXPLOITATION, was the fact that most of reborns caps are from the plat purchasers in the guild. Our top 5 officers have 20+ caps each. Officers alts and others alts are what makeup the majority of Reborns 300 or so members. All hand picked by officers/GM because of past friendships. This avoids all the spys and all the noobs that continue to seek to destroy and hate on the guild, exactly the problem tron had with accepting nearly anyone."

You must not be reading everything. Literally 60-70%, if not more of our capped members are from 5 people alone. A few of our other guildies have 3-5 maybe a few more. A few have 1 or 2. 282 member in total are in reborn, yet you all assume they are all different people.

Cinco
05-08-2018, 05:59 PM
Pocket Legends does not limit the number of characters that can join a Guild. So it's not technically an exploit if everyone joins the same Guild.
Likewise, it's not an exploit if you leave the winning guild to join / create another Guild to share the spoils. You've got 48 hours to access the Vendor - however you do it.

Recruitment pressure is a new thing for PL Guilds. Fortunately, Guilds are limited only by the initial charter purchase and are thereafter free to recruit and grow their membership (without having to buy Guild Member Slots, etc.).

I appreciate the feedback on this upcoming Event!