What I've witnessed

[Jilsponie]

I've been playing this game for years... I've seen alot, but recently I'm so confused about what i see i don't know what to think.

Developers seem to want to keep the game alive, and give updates. But all the updates are becoming more and more plat based updates. Platinum is a good thing, we want the community spending lots of it, it keeps the game up and running. But recently it's a fine line to walk about what players to keep "content" and buying platinum.

On one hand, we have a handful of players that spend a ton of platinum, then a ton of players that spend a handful of platinum.

Unfortunately it seems the handful of players that spend a ton of platinum, want to use that advantage to control the market of a ton of people that spend a handful of platinum. So what happens if a ton of players that spend a handful of platinum leave because they don't see it as fair, will the handful of players that spend a ton of platinum even stick around after their isn't a market to control?

Seeing how I've had yet another set changed, for the 3rd time, (magor, intex) nearly right after i paid for it, and didn't even get use of my purchase, i definitely won't be buying anymore platinum for the foreseeable future, and the company has gotten way over $1k USD from me so that's a pretty good paying customers lost.

Now i get to see some of the most toxic people in pl control the market on these vanities? I highly suggest watching the trades of these players, to make sure they are not trying to sell these items on the blackmarket, it's kinda what a couple of them are known for.

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[Jensmage]

To be honest, I see lots of players running around in this game. More players at the town area. New faces and old faces. Game is generating revenue. What they are doing is actually working.

[savagehottiee]

I've been playing this game for years... I've seen alot, but recently I'm so confused about what i see i don't know what to think.

Developers seem to want to keep the game alive, and give updates. But all the updates are becoming more and more plat based updates. Platinum is a good thing, we want the community spending lots of it, it keeps the game up and running. But recently it's a fine line to walk about what players to keep "content" and buying platinum.

On one hand, we have a handful of players that spend a ton of platinum, then a ton of players that spend a handful of platinum.

Unfortunately it seems the handful of players that spend a ton of platinum, want to use that advantage to control the market of a ton of people that spend a handful of platinum. So what happens if a ton of players that spend a handful of platinum leave because they don't see it as fair, will the handful of players that spend a ton of platinum even stick around after their isn't a market to control?

Seeing how I've had yet another set changed, for the 3rd time, (magor, intex) nearly right after i paid for it, and didn't even get use of my purchase, i definitely won't be buying anymore platinum for the foreseeable future, and the company has gotten way over $1k USD from me so that's a pretty good paying customers lost.

Now i get to see some of the most toxic people in pl control the market on these vanities? I highly suggest watching the trades of these players, to make sure they are not trying to sell these items on the blackmarket, it's kinda what a couple of them are known for.

Sent from my SM-J727T1 using TapatalkLove it you said that perfect cause it is true pl has gotten worse. I'm a plat spender but not anymore how the game has turned out

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[Nipunsky]

I've been playing this game for years... I've seen alot, but recently I'm so confused about what i see i don't know what to think.

Developers seem to want to keep the game alive, and give updates. But all the updates are becoming more and more plat based updates. Platinum is a good thing, we want the community spending lots of it, it keeps the game up and running. But recently it's a fine line to walk about what players to keep "content" and buying platinum.

On one hand, we have a handful of players that spend a ton of platinum, then a ton of players that spend a handful of platinum.

Unfortunately it seems the handful of players that spend a ton of platinum, want to use that advantage to control the market of a ton of people that spend a handful of platinum. So what happens if a ton of players that spend a handful of platinum leave because they don't see it as fair, will the handful of players that spend a ton of platinum even stick around after their isn't a market to control?

Seeing how I've had yet another set changed, for the 3rd time, (magor, intex) nearly right after i paid for it, and didn't even get use of my purchase, i definitely won't be buying anymore platinum for the foreseeable future, and the company has gotten way over $1k USD from me so that's a pretty good paying customers lost.

Now i get to see some of the most toxic people in pl control the market on these vanities? I highly suggest watching the trades of these players, to make sure they are not trying to sell these items on the blackmarket, it's kinda what a couple of them are known for.

Sent from my SM-J727T1 using TapatalkI've never been a huuuuuge plat spender but i buy a bunch of plat here and there.
Completely agree with you on this one... They are working extremely hard...but it's wayy too plat driven at this point (I didn't really care earlier, now i definitely care about it.. but a lot of my friends quit because they were not able to keep up with the plat required to progress/win/use in events ;-;)

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[Waug]

This is not constructive criticism rather opposite, constructive criticism is the thing that can help you favorite game. Without making it long (I need to farm gold lel & finally my ping arrived :P), when it comes to basic set (L105 elite set) everyone should have that, the game should be like this, either you spent plats or not, you can gather your set somehow (farming /merching etc) although it's not flawless but there are constructive criticism for that which can help.

When it comes to pure cosmetic, that's the place it always meant to be premium otherwise, how game can generate money? there're ways and there are flaws as well, again I'm short of time. What I'm saying, be possitive and suggest things which can be considered in future rather than this negativity.

[3pc]

I also buy plat every now and then. But not only did 27 people try to keep it rare which im all about. But its being kept too rare 500 plat for white dragon shield? 1100 Plat to craft the whole blue angel set? No thanks. If it was like 50-100 plat per item thats more reasonable to help keep it in the game but thats just insane.

[Dolloway]

Yes the game has become more plat based ever since the beginning of last year.

I would like to see the game continue to be plat based in a certain way. I believe a reasonable model is one that provides individuals vanities for platinum, as I've stated in previous posts where I mentioned the 'Fortnite model', which sells skins, sprays, emotes, etc. for currency bought with $ in the game.

So in a similar way, I would like to see the game try to profit off of vanities rather than anything stat-related or item related as we saw earlier last year with items like Magor, etc. and in more recent times Pure Stat guns. The direction should be moving away from these items that players need in pve and pvp (stats that affect performance) and moving to making profit off of vanities... Something that no players need but rather want than vice versa.

[exozer]

at this moment PVE 105 needs reasonable map to farm boss without paying plat, at this moment its bad for farmers. i will be lowering my PL on time in near future if nothing is being done :(

[plpr]

at this moment PVE 105 needs reasonable map to farm boss without paying plat, at this moment its bad for farmers. i will be lowering my PL on time in near future if nothing is being done :(

yea i miss playing in full parties vs 50-100 enemies and killing a boss for rare loot.


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[Draebatad]

Sadly, from what I've heard from so many, a ton of people who bought anywhere from a handful to a ton of plat on a regular basis are no longer purchasing plat as a result of dissatisfaction with the direction the game has gone (mostly related to the recent events), and out of these, many are no longer playing, either quitting permanently or taking breaks until the direction improves. This is very unfortunate. I do believe that an end to these flawed guild events and a return to old school community based events will fully resolve the concerns and frustrations of these players, as such events would be inclusive to the entire community and not a select few. Hopefully some changes can be made before it's too late. Don't like seeing friends and good players just disappear, they're what keep us all here and make this game so fun.

[Jensmage]

People no matter what will continue to buy plats because they are hungry for rare vanities. Players love the rare vanity and improved designed. I believe Cinco hit the jackpot with the event and the new designed of the vanities. Even Draebatad utilizes the vanity even though he didn't earn it. :)

Will people stop using plat? I doubt it because Plat provides them an increase chance of receive these rare vanities.

With data(Plat purchase and usage) flowing in from the game and chat conversation being monitored, Cinco will have the best view on the direction of Pocket Legends.

Please do not plan to display players points during the event because that will bring CHAOS to the event.

I hope to see more of Reborn and PC joining forces again to compete.

Great job Cinco!

[Buchmeister]

I agree, hopefully Cinco will add to this cap instead of throwing out a new one. I'll be making a larger, more well-organized thread about this idea since this happened a lot in the last guild event:

Let's keep plat completely away from the actual two day guild competition. When we get our reward level, whether it be farmable gold or maybe a loot cave, that's when we have elixirs for plat that boost rewards. That way, we keep guild events clean and fair and plat buyers still get their bang for their buck.

[Jensmage]

I agree, hopefully Cinco will add to this cap instead of throwing out a new one. I'll be making a larger, more well-organized thread about this idea since this happened a lot in the last guild event:

Let's keep plat completely away from the actual two day guild competition. When we get our reward level, whether it be farmable gold or maybe a loot cave, that's when we have elixirs for plat that boost rewards. That way, we keep guild events clean and fair and plat buyers still get their bang for their buck.



Plat I am sure will play a small role in the upcoming events. It is probably the main reason we are receiving these events and nice vanities. Cinco works on the weekend. We know because he closes the negative threads. :P

[Buchmeister]

Plat I am sure will play a small role in the upcoming events. It is probably the main reason we are receiving these events and nice vanities. Cinco works on the weekend. We know because he closes the negative threads. :P

Yes but when a guild wins entirely with the help of outside resources then spikes the prices on the rewards that just ruins the fun for everybody.

[Stellaxxxxxxx]

You're totally right

[Jensmage]

Yes but when a guild wins entirely with the help of outside resources then spikes the prices on the rewards that just ruins the fun for everybody.

I believe the new set vanity is around 20-25m. What was the value white set to begin with? 20-25m was the value of white set. I believe the set price is reasonable. Some players sold higher because that was the value they thought was right. Players value prices differently.

The price of the vanity set will rise and fall like the sun. Psycho rose and fall. I heard a player traded a black set for a Psyko pet. Just like the pysco pet, it’s just a pet that can’t be used on the new maps.

“Exclusive prizes make the Event compelling" - Cinco

If all players in the NBA receives a trophy, we will see basketball players walk on the courts.

[Buchmeister]

I believe the new set vanity is around 20-25m. What was the value white set to begin with? 20-25m was the value of white set. I believe the set price is reasonable. Some players sold higher because that was the value they thought was right. Players value prices differently.

The price of the vanity set will rise and fall like the sun. Psycho rose and fall. I heard a player traded a black set for a Psyko pet. Just like the pysco pet, it’s just a pet that can’t be used on the new maps.

“Exclusive prizes make the Event compelling" - Cinco

If all players in the NBA receives a trophy, we will see basketball players walk on the courts.

I'm not saying give trophies to all the players, I just don't want the ref to get paid off during the game.

[Jilsponie]

I believe the new set vanity is around 20-25m. What was the value white set to begin with? 20-25m was the value of white set. I believe the set price is reasonable. Some players sold higher because that was the value they thought was right. Players value prices differently.

The price of the vanity set will rise and fall like the sun. Psycho rose and fall. I heard a player traded a black set for a Psyko pet. Just like the pysco pet, it’s just a pet that can’t be used on the new maps.

“Exclusive prizes make the Event compelling" - Cinco

If all players in the NBA receives a trophy, we will see basketball players walk on the courts.Yes but first of all NBA players don't pay $$ to play the game, they get paid. So that's a terrible analogy, seeing as how we pay the developers and not the other way around.

I don't remember white drag ever being more than 10m...

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[Jensmage]

Yes but first of all NBA players don't pay $$ to play the game, they get paid. So that's a terrible analogy, seeing as how we pay the developers and not the other way around.

I don't remember white drag ever being more than 10m...

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Players don’t pay for the fees because viewers like us are paying for it. Basketball is a good example because it points out that competition and prizes motivates players. If all basketball players receive the same prizes and pay, then we won’t see players try. Lebron basketball player will not try if the prize and pay at the end was the same as another player that doesn’t make it to the finals.

Yup, some sets were sold at that price. If we wait a few more months, the price of white sets will rise.

Yup, white set were sold for 20-25m at the beginning.

[Jilsponie]

Players don’t pay for the fees because viewers like us are paying for it. Basketball is a good example because it points out that competition and prizes motivates players. If all basketball players receive the same prizes and pay, then we won’t see players try. Lebron basketball player will not try if the prize and pay at the end was the same as another player that doesn’t make it to the finals.

Yup, some sets were sold at that price. If we wait a few more months, the price of white sets will rise.

Yup, white set were sold for 20-25m at the beginning.Viewers don't pay NBA "fees"... and saying something doesn't make it true lol

NBA players are getting paid to do a job, therefore if they don't do said job, they don't earn as much. This is their career.

Pl is our free time... what we do for fun. WE pay to play the game. Now if we all pay to play the game, and a handful of players get together and ruin events for the community as a whole by keeping items to themselves and price gouging, it's going to have an impact on total platinum sales, because why keep paying if I'm excluded? This is simple cause and effect playing out...

Y'all enjoy your vanities when you're standing in towns and pvp maps alone

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[Baylakk]

Here’s my thoughts...

A lot of people have been saying these guild events are won by simply spending platinum. While it helps to spend plat (and it should) it really didn’t affect the competition on the gigantic level people said it did.

First of all, everyone was able to farm the event portal for rare items. Even if your guild doesn’t win, you’ve got a chance at some really nice stuff.

Second, this event was more about time than platinum. I spent maybe 200 plat on the guild event and produced roughly 28,000 event mob kills. I am not sure how many gold skeletons/boss I killed but that equates to quite a large point total (rough estimate of 40k points). I played most of Friday and half of Saturday/Sunday to achieve this. Could’ve played more but had some previous engagements.

So I got about 40k points for PC without playing as much as I could. Event hunters got what? 520k points? They won because everyone else gave up on chasing them within the first 12 hours. There were definitely others who could’ve played more than me and help beat them but they’d given up. So kudos to Event Hunters for sticking it out and winning.

Now having said that, top 10 is a small number to count for a guild. I think a top 20-30 could’ve been better because some people who joined the event late had already decided they couldn’t contribute because top 10 was already too far ahead.

I also think throwing in some community-wide events between guild events would be nice as well.

All in all, the event wasn’t rigged to plat spenders. Event hunters were beatable. And they deserve to have the market of the vanities and it’s okay that not literally everyone has them.

[Jensmage]

Here’s my thoughts...

A lot of people have been saying these guild events are won by simply spending platinum. While it helps to spend plat (and it should) it really didn’t affect the competition on the gigantic level people said it did.

First of all, everyone was able to farm the event portal for rare items. Even if your guild doesn’t win, you’ve got a chance at some really nice stuff.

Second, this event was more about time than platinum. I spent maybe 200 plat on the guild event and produced roughly 28,000 event mob kills. I am not sure how many gold skeletons/boss I killed but that equates to quite a large point total (rough estimate of 40k points). I played most of Friday and half of Saturday/Sunday to achieve this. Could’ve played more but had some previous engagements.

So I got about 40k points for PC without playing as much as I could. Event hunters got what? 520k points? They won because everyone else gave up on chasing them within the first 12 hours. There were definitely others who could’ve played more than me and help beat them but they’d given up. So kudos to Event Hunters for sticking it out and winning.

Now having said that, top 10 is a small number to count for a guild. I think a top 20-30 could’ve been better because some people who joined the event late had already decided they couldn’t contribute because top 10 was already too far ahead.

I also think throwing in some community-wide events between guild events would be nice as well.

All in all, the event wasn’t rigged to plat spenders. Event hunters were beatable. And they deserve to have the market of the vanities and it’s okay that not literally everyone has them.



Top 10 might be a good spot. Event Hunters was considered 4th Largest Guild on the LeadersBoard. That gives you an idea of how the guilds are not distributed evenly.

[Baylakk]

Top 10 might be a good spot. Event Hunters was considered 4th Largest Guild on the LeadersBoard. That gives you an idea of how the guilds are not distributed evenly.

Was it? I heard there were only 17 people in Event Hunters participating and most other capped people probably joined PC to try and stop them making the distribution off. Also, PC doubled in capped players size for the first Guild Event and it hasn’t dropped much even after everyone left which means a lot of these are just alts.

I just think it’s better to include at least more than a measly 10 people to count for the end goal.

[Onebigsmurfmello]

The Event was Fun

[Buchmeister]

Here’s my thoughts...

A lot of people have been saying these guild events are won by simply spending platinum. While it helps to spend plat (and it should) it really didn’t affect the competition on the gigantic level people said it did.

First of all, everyone was able to farm the event portal for rare items. Even if your guild doesn’t win, you’ve got a chance at some really nice stuff.

Second, this event was more about time than platinum. I spent maybe 200 plat on the guild event and produced roughly 28,000 event mob kills. I am not sure how many gold skeletons/boss I killed but that equates to quite a large point total (rough estimate of 40k points). I played most of Friday and half of Saturday/Sunday to achieve this. Could’ve played more but had some previous engagements.

So I got about 40k points for PC without playing as much as I could. Event hunters got what? 520k points? They won because everyone else gave up on chasing them within the first 12 hours. There were definitely others who could’ve played more than me and help beat them but they’d given up. So kudos to Event Hunters for sticking it out and winning.

Now having said that, top 10 is a small number to count for a guild. I think a top 20-30 could’ve been better because some people who joined the event late had already decided they couldn’t contribute because top 10 was already too far ahead.

I also think throwing in some community-wide events between guild events would be nice as well.

All in all, the event wasn’t rigged to plat spenders. Event hunters were beatable. And they deserve to have the market of the vanities and it’s okay that not literally everyone has them.

Except PC's top 10 didn't spend as much as Event Hunters. Like you said, you spend 200 plat and got 40k points. How much plat would one need to spend to get way more than that? It just comes down to plat and the event certainly didn't need the guilds to fight between who can throw their credit card harder.

[Xyzther]

Except PC's top 10 didn't spend as much as Event Hunters. Like you said, you spend 200 plat and got 40k points. How much plat would one need to spend to get way more than that? It just comes down to plat and the event certainly didn't need the guilds to fight between who can throw their credit card harder.

As I’ve said before, plat really didn’t make a difference. With plat I was getting 3k points an hour, and without I was getting 2.5k points an hour. The difference was so irrelevant I didn’t even use any plat for the last 2 days of the event, and neither did most of the rest of my guild. The difference between using plat or not is only 20%, and EH beat PC by about 40%, so even if EH used 0 plat and PC had all their top 10 using plat, we still would have won.

[Buchmeister]

As I’ve said before, plat really didn’t make a difference. With plat I was getting 3k points an hour, and without I was getting 2.5k points an hour. The difference was so irrelevant I didn’t even use any plat for the last 2 days of the event, and neither did most of the rest of my guild. The difference between using plat or not is only 20%, and EH beat PC by about 40%, so even if EH used 0 plat and PC had all their top 10 using plat, we still would have won.

Yes but there's also no way of knowing how much each guild had. Judging by the massive lead I'd say EH still spent a ton of plat. In the end, it wouldn't hurt anybody if the point farming had nothing to do with plat, unless you're in EH and you want to keep it pay2win.

[Cinco]

I look forward to Pocket Legends' continued survival... and the excitement of future Guild Events!